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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular


    diabetes really fuckin sucks sometimes
    (to all those diabetic peeps out there - check in with your podiatrists/feet/skin specialists on the regular if you can, yall)

    oh shit that sucks :(

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  • SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    Watched the first 45 seconds of Jeff Bakalar introducing Albummer and it's the first time I've seen Jordan Olds/Gwarsenio Hall without corpse paint. It's weirding me out.

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    SteevL wrote: »
    Watched the first 45 seconds of Jeff Bakalar introducing Albummer and it's the first time I've seen Jordan Olds/Gwarsenio Hall without corpse paint. It's weirding me out.

    As someone who doesn't like the corpse paint, I appreciate it.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Jeff bought his new home and is in the process of packing up to move, so I'm guessing he's going to miss some streams here in a couple weeks.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Really wish I could give them money to just watch Borne to Run because the rest of what they have in the hopper is not doing it for me at all.

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    Jason is going to struggle now with going toe to toe with other players in fighting games...

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  • Dark WhiteDark White Registered User regular
    This is starting to come off to me as a GameStop-esque pivot. Like, when GameStop started selling funko pops and wrestling action figures and T-shirts and stuff. We still have these games, but here's some other things our demographic info suggests you might be interested in, too?

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    I've only visted it once or twice since Danny and Mary left, but Gamespot basically became a nerd pop culture hub at some point. I'm not sure being a pure gaming site brings in the necessary money anymore.

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  • Dark WhiteDark White Registered User regular
    I have to imagine gaining new viewers on video game content alone is pretty difficult nowadays with Twitch as ubiquitous as it is.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Also it's not like this is exactly new territory for Giant Bomb. Film and 40's, All Systems Goku, and the Powerbombcast all off the top of my head. The only really big difference if they're contracting out these shows to non GB people. Which, given the state of GB and the world at the moment is kind of necessary.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    But those shows worked because you wanted to hear the opinions of people you were familiar with and liked hearing.

    This is two steps removed.

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  • CormacCormac Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    I have very little interest or like of metal and punk music but the Albummer podcast still could be worth listening to. People who appreciate music going into detail about why a particular album sucks could be interesting. They're probably not going to talk about music that's anything I care for, but learning why an albums sucks from people who do like the genre is worth checking out for an episode or two. Toss in some comedy and good banter then maybe it could be something I regularly listen to.

    The Power Ranger one though or anything wrestling related is a hard pass. I like Jan but I thought Power Rangers was bad when I was a kid so I can't imagine it being something I'd care for 25 years later.

    I've tried to get into Gamespot After Dark but I just can't. Giantbomb and Nextlander often talk about the same games and news, so a third podcast talking about the same things but with people whom I find much less interesting/engaging is one that doesn't get listened to.

    Edit: I, despite watching the video with Jeff and Jordan Olds, thought that it was a podcast and not a video show. That's what I get for having the video play in the background while I do other things. That actually a good thing though as I already have too many podcasts to listen to as is.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    I'm pretty sure they've mentioned that Albummer will be covering a wide swath of musical genres, not just metal or punk.

  • ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    “Paint drying stream? Huh okay, I don’t think that’s going to be very entertaining but I trust Vinny/Jeff/Jan/etc and will give it a shot” I think accurately describes a lot of peoples view on GB content.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pa52fpFvxQ

    First episode of Albummer is up.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    I can definitely see some of these changes coming about mainly because Jeff doesn't want Giant Bomb to be basically just a bunch of Twitch streams. Not that there's anything wrong with Twitch streams, but he might want GB to be its own thing.

    When they started out, even Let's Plays weren't nearly as common, and there were far fewer people doing streams, as the barrier to entry was a lot higher. Now, with a lot of people able to stream from their living rooms, and many doing just that, I could see Jeff wanting to do something to set GB apart. Now, we'll see how many of the shows they have planned actually pan out with the audience, but the general idea has been making more and more sense the more I've thought about it.

    Edit: I do agree that the weak link so far is some of these shows having few to no known GB people in them. That could work, but I feel like it needs to be alongside more shows with some more known GB crew. That's probably why the Danny related stuff has felt a bit more natural to me so far. I'm going to give Albummer a watch, but even seeing a few seconds of it when queueing it up, the complete lack of GB folks is weird.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    There's literally only 4 actual GB staff members left, one of them is Rorie (who is primarily support) and the other two are the producers. Jeff is technically the only member of the editorial staff left at this point, and he's busy dealing with an incoming kid and a house move, on top of having to deal with this new transition at his workplace. Jeff B is also in charge of handling Gamespot so his time is going to be divided, and Danny is a contractor with a second job.

    Like, regardless of why they left, losing Brad, Vinny and Alex a couple of months before this new initiative is a tough thing to deal with, especially when the pandemic makes getting new hires a bit of a challenge. (GB East is gone now but they lasted over a year without replacing Dan due to COVID.) This was on top of the attrition from losing Ben, Abby and Dan.

    This isn't to excuse GB from anyone who's unhappy with their output, just pointing out that there aren't a lot of GB members left to actually make the GB content, which is why they're bringing in outside talent.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    I was going to say the same thing, I started the video assuming there'd be one token GB person there to connect things.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    There's literally only 4 actual GB staff members left, one of them is Rorie (who is primarily support) and the other two are the producers. Jeff is technically the only member of the editorial staff left at this point, and he's busy dealing with an incoming kid and a house move, on top of having to deal with this new transition at his workplace. Jeff B is also in charge of handling Gamespot so his time is going to be divided, and Danny is a contractor with a second job.

    Like, regardless of why they left, losing Brad, Vinny and Alex a couple of months before this new initiative is a tough thing to deal with, especially when the pandemic makes getting new hires a bit of a challenge. (GB East is gone now but they lasted over a year without replacing Dan due to COVID.) This was on top of the attrition from losing Ben, Abby and Dan.

    This isn't to excuse GB from anyone who's unhappy with their output, just pointing out that there aren't a lot of GB members left to actually make the GB content, which is why they're bringing in outside talent.

    Certainly. I will say, I think when many people here are referring to 'GB people', it's including previous GB people (for instance, Dan is doing a show), as well as 'friends of the site'.
    I'm all for them bringing in new people, and even having shows with all new people. I also definitely get that this likely isn't how Jeff G originally planned for this to go. I'm certainly willing to stick around and try the new stuff out. I can also see though how having one of the first shows out of the gate be all new people could be jarring for some folks.

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    You canceled your Yearly subscription and it will no longer renew. Your membership benefits will end on April 05, 2023. If you want to reactivate and keep enjoying all these awesome benefits, you can do so here.



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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Sorry. I cancelled mine as well, good through June 2022 I believe.

    So far everything they are doing confirms that was the correct choice for me. You've got even more time so maybe will turn around by then.

  • Dark WhiteDark White Registered User regular
    Despite my lack of enthusiasm for the announcements of these new show, I actually just re-subscribed (after letting it lapse from the Vinny/Brad/Alex exodus) pretty much just to have access to Bourne to Run and UPFs.

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  • FuriousJodoFuriousJodo Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Mine ends mid-September, I'm still not sure if I want to renew or not.

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  • DiarmuidDiarmuid Amazing Meatball Registered User regular
    I signed up for another year the last time they had a sale. I'm not regretting doing that yet.

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  • SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    Yep, I'll reevaluate how things are going next year when my subscription comes up again, but I'm not planning on cancelling just yet.

  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    So I watched the first episode of Albummer.

    I'll probably give it another go, but on first pass, I'm not digging it.

    I was actually interested in this show based on the premise. I guess I was expecting something a bit more than a mostly directionless skype podcast? Exploring a bad album can be interesting. There are multiple online shows I enjoy that do just that. But usually those are more than just hot takes. There's research, history of the band/artist, how the album in question happened and what went wrong, etc. Scripting and editing even. They'll often feature albums I have no familiarity with, and still be quite interesting/entertaining. You know something by the end besides 'This person didn't like this thing'.
    Also, and I know it was probably for copyright reasons, but clips to demonstrate what's being talked about.

    An unscripted podcast on this subject can work, but then you need to be interested in hearing these particular people's off the cuff opinions. Not knowing anyone involved going in, that's a tougher sell, and I can't say that I was won over by the end. I just didn't click with the vibe at all.

    I don't think the choice of album for the first episode did them any favors either. First, for a show that was pitched as covering infamous, reviled albums, they picked something that was only released a few months ago, and which seems to have had a somewhat positive audience and critic reception?

    Also, and admittedly this is on me, but holy shit there are few things in music conversation that I enjoy or care about less than Strong Weezer Opinions (tm). As someone who doesn't have an opinion on Weezer beyond, 'I enjoy a few of their songs. They generally seem okay', I am really not interested in hearing yet another set of very hyperbolic takes about how they haven't been good since [insert year/album here].

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Honestly $35 is worth it to me just for a weekly JeffG stream, so I'm good there.

    My actual issue is that between Giant Bomb's new stuff, Waypoint Plus and Nextlander, plus the occasional Dan or Abby stream, I do not have remotely enough time to watch everything I want to watch AND play games AND keep up with RL stuff (and I'm loser who spends 99% of his free time at home.) Plus I have a 50 hour podcast backlog.

    Somethings going to give here and is increasingly looking like its Giant Bomb. I was six weeks behind on UPF before I took a week long staycation.

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  • CormacCormac Registered User regular
    So I watched the first episode of Albummer.

    I'll probably give it another go, but on first pass, I'm not digging it.

    I was actually interested in this show based on the premise. I guess I was expecting something a bit more than a mostly directionless skype podcast? Exploring a bad album can be interesting. There are multiple online shows I enjoy that do just that. But usually those are more than just hot takes. There's research, history of the band/artist, how the album in question happened and what went wrong, etc. Scripting and editing even. They'll often feature albums I have no familiarity with, and still be quite interesting/entertaining. You know something by the end besides 'This person didn't like this thing'.
    Also, and I know it was probably for copyright reasons, but clips to demonstrate what's being talked about.

    An unscripted podcast on this subject can work, but then you need to be interested in hearing these particular people's off the cuff opinions. Not knowing anyone involved going in, that's a tougher sell, and I can't say that I was won over by the end. I just didn't click with the vibe at all.

    I don't think the choice of album for the first episode did them any favors either. First, for a show that was pitched as covering infamous, reviled albums, they picked something that was only released a few months ago, and which seems to have had a somewhat positive audience and critic reception?

    Also, and admittedly this is on me, but holy shit there are few things in music conversation that I enjoy or care about less than Strong Weezer Opinions (tm). As someone who doesn't have an opinion on Weezer beyond, 'I enjoy a few of their songs. They generally seem okay', I am really not interested in hearing yet another set of very hyperbolic takes about how they haven't been good since [insert year/album here].

    I still need to finish the episode but my major issue with it is they don't play any music from the album. Talk shit all you want about the band or it's lead, but if you're going to tell me an album is bad I need audio examples of why it's bad. Something to compare it to such as other albums by the band in question to show the progression or regression of their style. Anything really.

    Also, the vastly differing levels of audio quality from the different people has been very hard to listen to. Was getting them all a decent mic on a shock mount not part of a budget?

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    The first episode of the Very Online Show is out and it's about the "beach that makes you old" meme spawned from the most recent Shyamalan movie.

    Which is ironic, because that statement makes me feel old as shit.

  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    So I watched the first episode of Albummer.

    I'll probably give it another go, but on first pass, I'm not digging it.

    I was actually interested in this show based on the premise. I guess I was expecting something a bit more than a mostly directionless skype podcast? Exploring a bad album can be interesting. There are multiple online shows I enjoy that do just that. But usually those are more than just hot takes. There's research, history of the band/artist, how the album in question happened and what went wrong, etc. Scripting and editing even. They'll often feature albums I have no familiarity with, and still be quite interesting/entertaining. You know something by the end besides 'This person didn't like this thing'.
    Also, and I know it was probably for copyright reasons, but clips to demonstrate what's being talked about.

    An unscripted podcast on this subject can work, but then you need to be interested in hearing these particular people's off the cuff opinions. Not knowing anyone involved going in, that's a tougher sell, and I can't say that I was won over by the end. I just didn't click with the vibe at all.

    I don't think the choice of album for the first episode did them any favors either. First, for a show that was pitched as covering infamous, reviled albums, they picked something that was only released a few months ago, and which seems to have had a somewhat positive audience and critic reception?

    Also, and admittedly this is on me, but holy shit there are few things in music conversation that I enjoy or care about less than Strong Weezer Opinions (tm). As someone who doesn't have an opinion on Weezer beyond, 'I enjoy a few of their songs. They generally seem okay', I am really not interested in hearing yet another set of very hyperbolic takes about how they haven't been good since [insert year/album here].

    I like weezer so i thought what the hell i'll give it a listen even though i don't know who these people are

    it sucked. there was no research at all given into why the album was bad (which was the entire purported reason of the show) and it was just a bunch of randos talking about weezer and Rivers Cuomo in general while giving life stories like i pissed my pants at my first concert when I was 13

    cool

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    The first episode of the Very Online Show is out and it's about the "beach that makes you old" meme spawned from the most recent Shyamalan movie.

    Which is ironic, because that statement makes me feel old as shit.

    I don't even know what this meme is

    sounds like another winner!!! :\

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  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    The first episode of the Very Online Show is out and it's about the "beach that makes you old" meme spawned from the most recent Shyamalan movie.

    Which is ironic, because that statement makes me feel old as shit.

    I don't even know what this meme is

    sounds like another winner!!! :\

    Wait THAT is what that’s from? I thought it was a Death Stranding joke or something.

  • The ListenerThe Listener Registered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    So I watched the first episode of Albummer.

    I'll probably give it another go, but on first pass, I'm not digging it.

    I was actually interested in this show based on the premise. I guess I was expecting something a bit more than a mostly directionless skype podcast? Exploring a bad album can be interesting. There are multiple online shows I enjoy that do just that. But usually those are more than just hot takes. There's research, history of the band/artist, how the album in question happened and what went wrong, etc. Scripting and editing even. They'll often feature albums I have no familiarity with, and still be quite interesting/entertaining. You know something by the end besides 'This person didn't like this thing'.
    Also, and I know it was probably for copyright reasons, but clips to demonstrate what's being talked about.

    An unscripted podcast on this subject can work, but then you need to be interested in hearing these particular people's off the cuff opinions. Not knowing anyone involved going in, that's a tougher sell, and I can't say that I was won over by the end. I just didn't click with the vibe at all.

    I don't think the choice of album for the first episode did them any favors either. First, for a show that was pitched as covering infamous, reviled albums, they picked something that was only released a few months ago, and which seems to have had a somewhat positive audience and critic reception?

    Also, and admittedly this is on me, but holy shit there are few things in music conversation that I enjoy or care about less than Strong Weezer Opinions (tm). As someone who doesn't have an opinion on Weezer beyond, 'I enjoy a few of their songs. They generally seem okay', I am really not interested in hearing yet another set of very hyperbolic takes about how they haven't been good since [insert year/album here].

    I like weezer so i thought what the hell i'll give it a listen even though i don't know who these people are

    it sucked. there was no research at all given into why the album was bad (which was the entire purported reason of the show) and it was just a bunch of randos talking about weezer and Rivers Cuomo in general while giving life stories like i pissed my pants at my first concert when I was 13

    cool

    There are bits of it I liked for sure, but I think some more structure could help them out, as well as giving a bit more background to the album they feature. I am overall positive on this particular group, at least.

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Nothing makes a bunch of people look dumber than when they're all publicly shitting on something as broad and taste-oriented as music. I'm not a recent Weezer fan by any stretch but a bunch of millennials doing un-researched "hot takes" on music is like my fucking kryptonite as a huge music nerd.

    JFC what a stupid show for Giant Bomb.

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    Hey look, they have audience metrics. Maybe it'll bomb horribly.

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    Nothing makes a bunch of people look dumber than when they're all publicly shitting on something as broad and taste-oriented as music. I'm not a recent Weezer fan by any stretch but a bunch of millennials doing un-researched "hot takes" on music is like my fucking kryptonite as a huge music nerd.

    JFC what a stupid show for Giant Bomb.
    This is why I like Todd in the Shadows. His audio mixing is kinda bad, but he makes his biases clear and does a lot of research for his videos.

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  • ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    A well-researched and well-presented narrative can make any topic compelling. The premise of the show is interesting but it sounds like the execution misses the mark.

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  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
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  • KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    Are hot takes the 2021 version of the reaction video fad?

  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular

    who is this person, why are GB viewers supposed to care?

    (note she might be great but they've done a piss poor job trying to integrate these new shows into the community)

    Like I'm not going to GB as a content landing page for a ton of youtubers...

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