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[Giant Bomb] was a website about video games

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    I wonder if Drew will come back, what with Cloth Map being done and his producing skills

    He is at....gah some company, I forget. Probably depends if his contract allows him to do seasonal stuff at GB. Or did you mean full time? Idk about that, they have 2 video guys already

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    One thing with the guys too is that they can now guarantee working from home. Im sure that was weighing on the GBeast team especially. Its a lot easier to make living situation plans when you know where your work is. I imagine Vinny might make his basement a bit more studio like.

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    One thing with the guys too is that they can now guarantee working from home. Im sure that was weighing on the GBeast team especially. Its a lot easier to make living situation plans when you know where your work is. I imagine Vinny might make his basement a bit more studio like.

    what about the poop water though

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    It feels weird, in an industry that is quickly coming to terms with worker rights and benefits, that Giant Bomb is pivoting to a "we're going to hire and build our brand around a bunch of contractors".

    I don't know. I do not love this approach but I hope it ends up being something good.

  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Jeff and Danny keep hinting at Giant Bomb brining in at least one wrestler to do content and I almost have to imagine that's Kenny Omega.

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    It feels weird, in an industry that is quickly coming to terms with worker rights and benefits, that Giant Bomb is pivoting to a "we're going to hire and build our brand around a bunch of contractors".

    I don't know. I do not love this approach but I hope it ends up being something good.

    It reminds me a lot of the movie industry where a whole lot of everything is basically contract basis

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Also Jeff said in the chat that part of the reason for this is that a lot of people they want to work with already have jobs

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    kinda sounds like the people that don't have jobs need it more tbh

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Having a job doesn't protect you from being taken advantage of as a contractor.

  • PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    el_vicio wrote: »
    I don't know who Jeff Grub is tbh, Ryckert I could do without, I like Danny, and Tamoor seems alright

    The concept is interesting though, curious where that all goes

    https://twitter.com/lucyjamesgames is also involved in that project! She was fun on the podcast she appeared in.

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    Nirya wrote: »
    Jeff and Danny keep hinting at Giant Bomb brining in at least one wrestler to do content and I almost have to imagine that's Kenny Omega.

    I was thinking Xavier Woods really.

    I’m down with this new pitch of giant bomb as like the tv station of video games but a show with Jeff Grubb who I only really know as someone who breaks news on Twitter and having Dan doing a show that aren’t a strong start.

  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Jeff also essentially just stated that Premium is sticking around but he doesn't know how it works in this scenario with the new direction which was.....a weird thing to say when you have a bunch of people with their finger hovering over the 'cancel' button.

  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    Jeff Grubb is a journalist with VentureBeat, he's well-known for breaking stories on unannounced games and events, he's one of the big sources people follow for leaks/announcements

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    edited June 2021
    Oooh, this sounds interesting. Giant Bomb pulling off what Let's Play / Achievement Hunter kind of failed at? The idea of being a hub for your favorite creat---

    Oh fuck, it's Channel Awesome all over again! :D

    Edit: SIMM, would you prefer he lie with an eye towards making more money at the cost of his reputation?

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    Right I forgot about the gamespot crossover, that I’m pretty excited for because the current crew over there seems cool but I’m bad about ever checking out their content.

  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    It also reminds me of the game of the year coverage, when they pull in all these insane lists and celebs and views of the industry. Or the E3 after show, when they pull in all these insane guests and celebs and views of the industry.

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    switchin' over to Vinny and the boys, good to catch the GB news though

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Lasbrook wrote: »
    Nirya wrote: »
    Jeff and Danny keep hinting at Giant Bomb brining in at least one wrestler to do content and I almost have to imagine that's Kenny Omega.

    I was thinking Xavier Woods really.

    I mean, they've had Samoa Joe on some of the E3 After Dark streams before, he'd be a fun pick-up.

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  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    So I’m getting a lot of weird info here, could someone summarize what’s going on for the GB announcement today?

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Man oh man I want to give this Operation Tango a shot. It seems a natural outgrowth of that bomb defusing game.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    So I’m getting a lot of weird info here, could someone summarize what’s going on for the GB announcement today?

    -Danny O'Dwyer is joining the site on a semi-permanent basis. He's not leaving Noclip but he's gonna be a big part of the site's content going forward
    -They are probably going to be hiring one more permanent person in an editorial role
    -beyond that, instead of hiring up to replace all the folks they've lost, they're going to start contracting people to do short-term shows and features, with an emphasis on doing lots of different, varied content for the site.
    -Starting out, they're going to be doing shows with Dan Ryckert, Jeff Grub, and some folks from Gamespot
    -long term they're talking about trying to get a wide variety of folks involved, and even floated the idea of taking pitches from the community

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Man oh man I want to give this Operation Tango a shot. It seems a natural outgrowth of that bomb defusing game.

    Vinny's oldschool video shenanigans, how I've missed them

    and yeah the game looks really cool

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  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    So I’m getting a lot of weird info here, could someone summarize what’s going on for the GB announcement today?

    Basically they are going to be contracting some people for specific shows and things but also eventually bringing some more core staff onboard.

    -Jeff Grubb for some content
    -Tamoor Hussain and Lucy James from Gamespot for a show with Bakalar
    -Dan Ryckert for a show with Bakalar
    -Danny ODwyer will be up for more Core content like Bombcast and things like that and also pitching shows
    -more announcements coming as contracts are finalized (hints of a wrestler being one)

    never die
  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Oooh, this sounds interesting. Giant Bomb pulling off what Let's Play / Achievement Hunter kind of failed at? The idea of being a hub for your favorite creat---

    Oh fuck, it's Channel Awesome all over again! :D

    Edit: SIMM, would you prefer he lie with an eye towards making more money at the cost of his reputation?

    No, I'd prefer for him to have a pov on how this all intersects with the new direction of the site.
    Unless they are pausing charging people until those announcements are made. And, yes, I know they've extended premium for people over the next couple of months.

  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Does this mean All Systems Goku is back on the table??

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Nextlander really needs mods for the twitch chat

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    dan ryckert being contracted to do a podcast of dragonball GT

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  • CelloCello Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    So I’m getting a lot of weird info here, could someone summarize what’s going on for the GB announcement today?

    -Danny O'Dwyer is joining the site on a semi-permanent basis. He's not leaving Noclip but he's gonna be a big part of the site's content going forward
    -They are probably going to be hiring one more permanent person in an editorial role
    -beyond that, instead of hiring up to replace all the folks they've lost, they're going to start contracting people to do short-term shows and features, with an emphasis on doing lots of different, varied content for the site.
    -Starting out, they're going to be doing shows with Dan Ryckert, Jeff Grub, and some folks from Gamespot
    -long term they're talking about trying to get a wide variety of folks involved, and even floated the idea of taking pitches from the community

    I don't love that they're not intending to hire up

    I'd rather they'd have found ways to make more Abby's and Austin's rather than capitalizing on existing talent, honestly

    It makes sense from a business perspective because it also probably costs less in benefits and salary and such to do small contracts and simply provide production, but...

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    yeah it's not exactly thrilling that the bold new vision of the future for Giant Bomb is Jeff invented temps

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Cello wrote: »
    never die wrote: »
    So I’m getting a lot of weird info here, could someone summarize what’s going on for the GB announcement today?

    -Danny O'Dwyer is joining the site on a semi-permanent basis. He's not leaving Noclip but he's gonna be a big part of the site's content going forward
    -They are probably going to be hiring one more permanent person in an editorial role
    -beyond that, instead of hiring up to replace all the folks they've lost, they're going to start contracting people to do short-term shows and features, with an emphasis on doing lots of different, varied content for the site.
    -Starting out, they're going to be doing shows with Dan Ryckert, Jeff Grub, and some folks from Gamespot
    -long term they're talking about trying to get a wide variety of folks involved, and even floated the idea of taking pitches from the community

    I don't love that they're not intending to hire up

    I'd rather they'd have found ways to make more Abby's and Austin's rather than capitalizing on existing talent, honestly

    It makes sense from a business perspective because it also probably costs less in benefits and salary and such to do small contracts and simply provide production, but...

    i'm hoping that as it really spins up they start expanding their reach and platforming more people

    they're in a difficult spot so i get them running more toward established folks that can help handle what's probably gonna be kind of a rough period here but yeah, so far i'm not really feeling much excitement about this

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  • CelloCello Registered User regular
    Cello wrote: »
    never die wrote: »
    So I’m getting a lot of weird info here, could someone summarize what’s going on for the GB announcement today?

    -Danny O'Dwyer is joining the site on a semi-permanent basis. He's not leaving Noclip but he's gonna be a big part of the site's content going forward
    -They are probably going to be hiring one more permanent person in an editorial role
    -beyond that, instead of hiring up to replace all the folks they've lost, they're going to start contracting people to do short-term shows and features, with an emphasis on doing lots of different, varied content for the site.
    -Starting out, they're going to be doing shows with Dan Ryckert, Jeff Grub, and some folks from Gamespot
    -long term they're talking about trying to get a wide variety of folks involved, and even floated the idea of taking pitches from the community

    I don't love that they're not intending to hire up

    I'd rather they'd have found ways to make more Abby's and Austin's rather than capitalizing on existing talent, honestly

    It makes sense from a business perspective because it also probably costs less in benefits and salary and such to do small contracts and simply provide production, but...

    i'm hoping that as it really spins up they start expanding their reach and platforming more people

    they're in a difficult spot so i get them running more toward established folks that can help handle what's probably gonna be kind of a rough period here but yeah, so far i'm not really feeling much excitement about this

    Yeah, like, I can see the business case here - reduced overhead, only requiring the one studio (if any at all because people can record their bits remotely in their own studios they use for their main jobs), getting people who have other employment and so their contract just has to be temporary, you can hang out with your friends who are built up and want to share audiences and grow their exposure out

    But I was hoping also to see big changes in terms of bringing in more diverse voices as permanent staff with like....stability, and helping them launch careers with dedicated support

    And that's something they may be able to do longer term but I don't know how far out they'll be reaching from their established circles for this

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    el_vicio wrote: »
    Nextlander really needs mods for the twitch chat

    They've been open about that in the Discord that they are looking/working on that.

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  • el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    el_vicio wrote: »
    Nextlander really needs mods for the twitch chat

    They've been open about that in the Discord that they are looking/working on that.

    oh I'm sure. It's just, I'm not on twitch often because of garbo chat, and that's probably why I'm zeroing in on that aspect

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Cello wrote: »
    Cello wrote: »
    never die wrote: »
    So I’m getting a lot of weird info here, could someone summarize what’s going on for the GB announcement today?

    -Danny O'Dwyer is joining the site on a semi-permanent basis. He's not leaving Noclip but he's gonna be a big part of the site's content going forward
    -They are probably going to be hiring one more permanent person in an editorial role
    -beyond that, instead of hiring up to replace all the folks they've lost, they're going to start contracting people to do short-term shows and features, with an emphasis on doing lots of different, varied content for the site.
    -Starting out, they're going to be doing shows with Dan Ryckert, Jeff Grub, and some folks from Gamespot
    -long term they're talking about trying to get a wide variety of folks involved, and even floated the idea of taking pitches from the community

    I don't love that they're not intending to hire up

    I'd rather they'd have found ways to make more Abby's and Austin's rather than capitalizing on existing talent, honestly

    It makes sense from a business perspective because it also probably costs less in benefits and salary and such to do small contracts and simply provide production, but...

    i'm hoping that as it really spins up they start expanding their reach and platforming more people

    they're in a difficult spot so i get them running more toward established folks that can help handle what's probably gonna be kind of a rough period here but yeah, so far i'm not really feeling much excitement about this

    Yeah, like, I can see the business case here - reduced overhead, only requiring the one studio (if any at all because people can record their bits remotely in their own studios they use for their main jobs), getting people who have other employment and so their contract just has to be temporary, you can hang out with your friends who are built up and want to share audiences and grow their exposure out

    But I was hoping also to see big changes in terms of bringing in more diverse voices as permanent staff with like....stability, and helping them launch careers with dedicated support

    And that's something they may be able to do longer term but I don't know how far out they'll be reaching from their established circles for this

    They did say that people who have never been on the site before will be showing up but, yeah, I agree

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    There's not a lot of room to 'hire up' to.

    Like, GB East is gone and ain't coming back. There's no studio, there's no manager and there's no employees. They'd have to rebuild it entirely from scratch, and finding a manager that Jeff would trust enough to do that is a very, very tall order.

    Danny is basically replacing Ben and the new hire they mentioned would be replacing Brad. With Bakalar and Rorie, that's a pool of 7 people for the Bombcast, Quicklooks, UPF and whatever other "core" programs they'll produce, on top of the contracted stuff.

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Cello wrote: »
    Cello wrote: »
    never die wrote: »
    So I’m getting a lot of weird info here, could someone summarize what’s going on for the GB announcement today?

    -Danny O'Dwyer is joining the site on a semi-permanent basis. He's not leaving Noclip but he's gonna be a big part of the site's content going forward
    -They are probably going to be hiring one more permanent person in an editorial role
    -beyond that, instead of hiring up to replace all the folks they've lost, they're going to start contracting people to do short-term shows and features, with an emphasis on doing lots of different, varied content for the site.
    -Starting out, they're going to be doing shows with Dan Ryckert, Jeff Grub, and some folks from Gamespot
    -long term they're talking about trying to get a wide variety of folks involved, and even floated the idea of taking pitches from the community

    I don't love that they're not intending to hire up

    I'd rather they'd have found ways to make more Abby's and Austin's rather than capitalizing on existing talent, honestly

    It makes sense from a business perspective because it also probably costs less in benefits and salary and such to do small contracts and simply provide production, but...

    i'm hoping that as it really spins up they start expanding their reach and platforming more people

    they're in a difficult spot so i get them running more toward established folks that can help handle what's probably gonna be kind of a rough period here but yeah, so far i'm not really feeling much excitement about this

    Yeah, like, I can see the business case here - reduced overhead, only requiring the one studio (if any at all because people can record their bits remotely in their own studios they use for their main jobs), getting people who have other employment and so their contract just has to be temporary, you can hang out with your friends who are built up and want to share audiences and grow their exposure out

    But I was hoping also to see big changes in terms of bringing in more diverse voices as permanent staff with like....stability, and helping them launch careers with dedicated support

    And that's something they may be able to do longer term but I don't know how far out they'll be reaching from their established circles for this

    I don't know if media content like this in 2021 is actually capable of providing really solid stability

    I'm reminded a lot of what Vinny was saying on the Will/Brad Tech Pod that now he doesn't have to worry about going on friend's podcasts for fear of cannibalizing their own site. Namely in that this proposal seems to short-circuit that issue by making it collaborative instead of competitive.

  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    never die wrote: »
    So I’m getting a lot of weird info here, could someone summarize what’s going on for the GB announcement today?

    -Danny O'Dwyer is joining the site on a semi-permanent basis. He's not leaving Noclip but he's gonna be a big part of the site's content going forward
    -They are probably going to be hiring one more permanent person in an editorial role
    -beyond that, instead of hiring up to replace all the folks they've lost, they're going to start contracting people to do short-term shows and features, with an emphasis on doing lots of different, varied content for the site.
    -Starting out, they're going to be doing shows with Dan Ryckert, Jeff Grub, and some folks from Gamespot
    -long term they're talking about trying to get a wide variety of folks involved, and even floated the idea of taking pitches from the community

    Awesome, thanks!

  • CormacCormac Registered User regular
    I may let my premium sub lapse until they clearly state what the benefits, outside of the ad free podcast and Casual Friday Streams, are going to be. The only premium video content I've watched with any consistency in the past few years have been whatever the Friday afternoon stream is. Even then I'm often looking at my phone or doing stuff on the computer while it's playing because whatever game they're playing isn't interested to me.

    Like many people I've kept my sub going as a show of support more than access to video content. I may still do that going forward but I think I'll wait a month or two to see the kind of content and direction of the site goes before I spend the money.

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Holy hell. I came back from a 45 min meeting and... things appear to have gone off the deep end since the crew broke into the Vault.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    i feel like i should have been more aggressive downloading gb premium content i wanted to keep, because as is i don't see why on earth i'd want to keep it going forward with this proposal. when even they say they don't know what premium even is right now, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

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