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The Epic Apple fight

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    I'm so glad I don't have a kid that I have to forbid to play Fortnite or watch youtubers or go outside

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    They all suck but Epic coming out ahead has the best chance of incidentally helping people who aren't giant evil corporations, so like...

    Go Epic?

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    Yeah Epic winning will (in theory) help both smaller developers who would never have had the financial or cultural power to pull this off, as well as consumers who don't really know how anything works but hey less price is better

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    BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    You could do the free version of Stadia, you just wouldn't get all of the bells and whistles like 4k

    I mean, theoretically, I don't know if they ever actually "activated" it for chromecasts that weren't purchased via Stadia bundle, honestly


    I literally don't know if the free version of stadia has launched yet? I know it was absolutely not part of the initial launch, with a lot of claims of *in the future* from Google.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Stadia free accounts have been available for roughly a year now, but again they have been shit about authorizing Chromecast to actually install the software outside of the Chromecast that actually came with the Stadia Pro bundle

    That said you could use it on PC I guess if you really wanted to

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    When Epic bought Artstation recently they made the learning portal free for all of 2021.

    The only free thing Apple's tried to give away as far as I know is a U2 album.

    So I'm pulling for Epic on this one.

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    RawrBearRawrBear Registered User regular
    When Epic bought Artstation recently they made the learning portal free for all of 2021.

    The only free thing Apple's tried to give away as far as I know is a U2 album.

    So I'm pulling for Epic on this one.

    Oh shit I didn't know about that! I've got a few friends who might be interested in the lessons on there I"m gonna pass that along.

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    VeagleVeagle Registered User regular
    Apple Lawyer Points Out Epic Games Store Top 20 Has 25 Games

    Why must you turn this courtroom into a house of lies?

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    DiarmuidDiarmuid Amazing Meatball Registered User regular
    Uh, what the fuck?


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    Took me about 15 minutes to flip hard from Apple calling Itch disgusting being the funniest joke in a long while to feeling a deep sense of dread at platform with low barrier to entry that hosts a irreplaceable amount of queer art is being called "disgusting" in a court of law.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    I guess I'm technically a lawyer so I'm offended that these lawyers are so shitty at being geeks

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Could itch have a defamation case?

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    well now I'm rooting for Epic, because fuck off with that shit Apple

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    why is apple so shitty. have they always been this shitty?

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Seeing "sexualized" and "offensive" grouped together sure is something, though I guess it's not actually new for Apple and matches their app store policies.

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    "Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. NO SEX THINGS THOUGH. THAT'S ONLY FOR MOMMYS AND DADDYS TO DO IN PRIVATE TO MAKE BABIES."

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    the funniest thing about right wing sexuality muzzling is those dudes are almost without exception huge porn fiends

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Could itch have a defamation case?

    there's usually immunity for anything said in actual court proceedings, but i don't know the exact limits of that

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    man is an animal of sin inherent

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    Apple is smooth SpongeBob, but forcing it on everyone else too

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    They're going to be so angry when they find out what this song is about.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppY3DdnzQiA

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Apple: As you can see, there is a long list of games on itch.io wherein queer creators make games exploring queer identity and relationships emotionally and/or sexually. The game play, art styles and content are as varied as the creators themselves.

    Conservative Lawmakers: Disgusting! Unthinkable!

    Apple: And as you can also see, there is also a long list of games on itch.io wherein straight creators make games about men banging women to whom they are related. They all use the same DAZ studio models and look exactly the same.

    Conservative Lawmakers: *sweating, licking lips* disgusting... unthinkable...

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    akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Should I be shocked and appalled that there are tvshows and films available on my itunes store that have boobs and weiners in them? Although a lot less weiners than boobs.

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    akajaybay wrote: »
    Should I be shocked and appalled that there are tvshows and films available on my itunes store that have boobs and weiners in them? Although a lot less weiners than boobs.

    That seems like a reasonable angle for Epic to hammer on if they want to even dignify this puritanical idiocy.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    the thing is this is following the parts earlier today where the epic lawyers tried to diss on the apple store for having games like "illumunati eye rape" on it

    this is apple hammering on epic for trying to play some of this card

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    i hate capitalism so much

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    it seems genuinely impossible to parse what this trial is even about anymore

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    3cl1ps3 wrote: »
    i hate capitalism so much

    Buy my book

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    it seems genuinely impossible to parse what this trial is even about anymore

    A slap-fight between disingenuous assholes over the toxic heart and soul of IP law

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    it seems genuinely impossible to parse what this trial is even about anymore

    A slap-fight between disingenuous assholes over the toxic heart and soul of IP law

    none of this actually has to do with IP law though they're just yelling at each other about nonsense

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    the thing is this is following the parts earlier today where the epic lawyers tried to diss on the apple store for having games like "illumunati eye rape" on it

    this is apple hammering on epic for trying to play some of this card

    That sounds worse somehow. How is a game called 'illuminati eye rape' comparable to itch?

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    the funniest thing about right wing sexuality muzzling is those dudes are almost without exception huge porn fiends

    "It's ok if I do it" is an evergreen philosophy from them.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    3cl1ps3 wrote: »
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    it seems genuinely impossible to parse what this trial is even about anymore

    A slap-fight between disingenuous assholes over the toxic heart and soul of IP law

    none of this actually has to do with IP law though they're just yelling at each other about nonsense

    The theoretically relevant law is antitrust and related, but... what is this I don't even.

    Fuck both of em.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Does itch have community guidelines or can anyone upload a game about anything?

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Does itch have community guidelines or can anyone upload a game about anything?

    From their FAQ:
    I found an offensive / broken / copyright-infringing page. What do I do?
    Every itch.io page has a Report link down at the bottom. It opens a form that sends a message directly to the itch.io admin team, which will take appropriate action.

    And from their Terms of Use:
    itch.io aims to create a safe environment for users of the site and service. This requires a community that is built on goodwill and responsible behavior by its members. The posting of content or other actions that, in the Company’s sole discretion, degrades the experience of others may result in account termination without prior notice. Prohibited actions include but are not limited to:

    Uploading viruses or malicious code or acting in any manner to restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying the Service;
    Spamming or sending repeated messages, junk email, contests, surveys or any unsolicited messages;
    Posting unlawful, misleading, malicious, or discriminatory content;
    Bullying, intimidating, harassing, defaming, threatening others, or violating the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;
    Posting content that promotes or participates in racial intolerance, sexism, hate crimes, hate speech, or intolerance to any group of individuals;
    Soliciting, harvesting or collecting information about others;
    Violating copyright, trademark or other intellectual property or other legal rights of others by posting content without permission to distribute such content;
    Hacking, maliciously manipulating, or misrepresenting itch.io’s interface in any way;
    Creating a false identity for the purpose or effect of misleading others; or
    Violating any applicable laws or regulations.

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    So, does Apple's attack on itch have any relevance to *checks notes* Epic wanting to sell v bucks directly or is it just a vicious lawyer tactic to besmirch Epic?

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    OptyOpty Registered User regular
    So, does Apple's attack on itch have any relevance to *checks notes* Epic wanting to sell v bucks directly or is it just a vicious lawyer tactic to besmirch Epic?

    We got here from Epic pointing out bad shit existing in Apple's walled garden and then Apple going "well you have bad shit in your walled garden too!" by pointing at the itch.io app on the Epic store. Only the itch.io app is just a storefront app that Epic doesn't take any cuts from, so pointing it out the way they did (in an extremely gross manner) and revealing Epic's fine with allowing other storefronts to exist on their storefront without taking a cut doesn't help their case at all.

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    PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    Opty wrote: »
    So, does Apple's attack on itch have any relevance to *checks notes* Epic wanting to sell v bucks directly or is it just a vicious lawyer tactic to besmirch Epic?

    We got here from Epic pointing out bad shit existing in Apple's walled garden and then Apple going "well you have bad shit in your walled garden too!" by pointing at the itch.io app on the Epic store. Only the itch.io app is just a storefront app that Epic doesn't take any cuts from, so pointing it out the way they did (in an extremely gross manner) and revealing Epic's fine with allowing other storefronts to exist on their storefront without taking a cut doesn't help their case at all.

    Ah right, that was mentioned upthread but it slipped my mind.

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