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    ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    That's one game off my wishlist...

    Children's rights are human rights.
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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited June 2021
    Factorio seems annoying to play.

    Coinage on
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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Fortunately, Satisfactory is better anyway

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Donnicton wrote: »
    Crippl3 wrote: »

    He even went with an "I'm above concepts like "sides"" angle
    I don't know why do you think I'm not calm.I'm just trying to explain why deplatforming is wrong. I'm trying to argue for the free speech. How is this being right-wing asshole? The left/right wing terminilogy is all weird, and I'm probably nowehere on the left/right axe, as both sides (including center) sound bad to me. So I don't know how this has anything to do with any wing.

    Edit: and yeah as mentioned in the Steam thread he also called statutory rape an "sjw term". (This was a few years ago though, but should have been an immediate red flag)

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I.


    wh.

    buh.

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    ph blakeph blake Registered User regular


    Code Vein for 15 bucks is basically the perfect price to get me to try out knock off anime Dark Souls

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Fortunately, Satisfactory is better anyway

    And it's made by a team of gentle Swedes who consciously provide financial support to other game developers with diverse teams!

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    KamarKamar Registered User regular
    ph blake wrote: »


    Code Vein for 15 bucks is basically the perfect price to get me to try out knock off anime Dark Souls

    Code Vein is the only Soulslike I've enjoyed as much as a proper Fromsoft game. Other than weapons feeling weightless the gameplay is great.

    Though I really love it because I love melodramatic anime trash.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    conversely, I did not like code vein one bit

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    Kristmas KthulhuKristmas Kthulhu Currently Kultist Kthulhu Registered User regular
    I bounced off of Code Vein hard. It has an incredible character creator, I'll give it that. I just didn't find its world interesting or gameplay up to FromSoft standards.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I thought it was basically fine, I will sit right in the middle

    I appreciated that they were doing Souls combat with nary a shield in sight however

    Because Bloodborne is still the best Souls

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Fortunately, Satisfactory is better anyway

    And it's made by a team of gentle Swedes who consciously provide financial support to other game developers with diverse teams!

    it's still funny to me that before Satisfactory, Coffee Stain's biggest success was a game they made as a joke

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    I had a ton of fun with Code Vein just for its freedom in character creator and also playstyle. Want to be a magic user? Throw on one of the Magic based Codes. Want to switch to a tanky greatsword user? Swap Codes and you're done. That's all you need to change

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Hey pc games thread does elite dangerous ever get fun? The space trucking is neat but its just the same thing over and over. I don't like simulationist space combat at all, and so far all of discovering I can do has been incredibly boring.

    Is there a story or interesting quests or anything worth working towards or is it just more of everything I've seen so far?

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    I had a ton of fun with Code Vein just for its freedom in character creator and also playstyle. Want to be a magic user? Throw on one of the Magic based Codes. Want to switch to a tanky greatsword user? Swap Codes and you're done. That's all you need to change

    This was definitely the coolest part - could easily swap and combine builds.

    The game definitely wasn’t as tightly designed as a souls or a nioh, but I enjoyed what I played of it.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Hey pc games thread does elite dangerous ever get fun? The space trucking is neat but its just the same thing over and over. I don't like simulationist space combat at all, and so far all of discovering I can do has been incredibly boring.

    Is there a story or interesting quests or anything worth working towards or is it just more of everything I've seen so far?

    Nope! It's basically Space Trucker Sim, if that's not doing it for you there's not a bunch else. I have fun popping back in every so often to have fun half-learning how to do the advanced flight, but it's got zilch going on for narrative or interactions in general.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    That is one of those "make your own fun" games

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Hey pc games thread does elite dangerous ever get fun? The space trucking is neat but its just the same thing over and over. I don't like simulationist space combat at all, and so far all of discovering I can do has been incredibly boring.

    Is there a story or interesting quests or anything worth working towards or is it just more of everything I've seen so far?

    Nope! It's basically Space Trucker Sim, if that's not doing it for you there's not a bunch else. I have fun popping back in every so often to have fun half-learning how to do the advanced flight, but it's got zilch going on for narrative or interactions in general.

    Well dang, thats too bad

    Game is super cool looking and I loved flying around in it but it sounds like its not for me

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    NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    On one hand, Elite Dangerous is fairly easy game to farm money (mining gets you a fairly big ship pretty fast).
    But on the other hand, that money does nothing to change that you are basicly doing now what you did the moment you first started, just more so.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    I think the thing that most undoes Elite for me is the fact that it's an MMO-ish. In other space-trucker games of a similar type, I know that my trucking eventually leads to either getting a battleship that can handle super-dangerous story missions, or a trading empire. In Elite I can kinda manage something similar to that, but it would take forever and require a lot of effort coordinating people. I think I'd absolutely have a better time if the game was a single-player experience with some narrative throughline and more crafted combat challenges. I love so much of the gameplay moment-to-moment, but there's just too little forward movement.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    I played ED for a bit, I really enjoyed the trucking aspect of it, as well as found the combat fairly fun (though it took a bit and a fair amount upgrades and a ship specifically built for it in order not to get blown out of the sky constantly). But what ultimately killed it for me was three things. The sheer size of the galaxy and how long it took to get around, which combined with the kind of lackluster multiplayer to make playing with friends cumbersome and not really better than playing alone. The other being all the annoyance of doing engineer upgrades, since you couldn't buy materials, you had to farm them up yourself, and if you for instance, don't really enjoy mining, it kind of locks you out of that. Also landing at and leaving from engineer bases on planets. Gravity wells suck.

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    NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    Half an hour to reach docking bay after you reach a star system?
    Sure.
    Bit more helpful UI, less need to "figure it out", more straightforward missions (i do not enjoy spending 5 minutes going through menus to find out if it is theoretically possible for me to do a mission offered, let alone practically).
    I might go and play more of it at some point, might not.

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    At some point you gotta come to terms with that it's never particularly tried to be the game you want it to be.

    I wish American Truck Simulator had a story mode where you go undercover to find out who cut the brake lines on your late father's rig but c'est la vie.

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    Yeah, "find your own fun" games always end up being "I'm not finding it" for me. If it doesn't feel like what I'm doing matters except for my own gratification then it just makes the world feel hollow (unless the whole point of the game is to put across that nothing you do matters, but let's be real, that's not what ED is doing).

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Anyone here played Observation (not to be confused with Observer)? Looks like an interesting option for my puzzle game urge so wondering if it's good.

    Haven't progressed the plot of Odyssey much recently, have mostly been hunting cultists. Also had a go at that mythical boar. It was going well until its jerk babies turned up.

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    LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    Anyone here played Observation (not to be confused with Observer)? Looks like an interesting option for my puzzle game urge so wondering if it's good.

    Haven't progressed the plot of Odyssey much recently, have mostly been hunting cultists. Also had a go at that mythical boar. It was going well until its jerk babies turned up.

    oh i loved observation

    it's a bit less puzzle-y, more like an interesting sort of narrative game

    but there's still some really interesting puzzle-y things in there

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    edited June 2021
    Lalabox wrote: »
    Anyone here played Observation (not to be confused with Observer)? Looks like an interesting option for my puzzle game urge so wondering if it's good.

    Haven't progressed the plot of Odyssey much recently, have mostly been hunting cultists. Also had a go at that mythical boar. It was going well until its jerk babies turned up.

    oh i loved observation

    it's a bit less puzzle-y, more like an interesting sort of narrative game

    but there's still some really interesting puzzle-y things in there

    Yeah I really enjoyed it. It's not a particularly challenging game, but it's a neat little take on the puzzle adventure genre, and I really dig the kind of sci-fi horror it goes for too.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I found Observation all right but I had multiple crashes and freezes so I was really stop and start getting through it.

    I ate an engineer
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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    The Fermi Paradox is engaging as all get out. Every time there was an event on Earth I just rolled my eyes and went "what the hell did those apes do this time" (what's that, do I think we should send half our population to this other world populated by peaceful aliens? Get the fuck out, you're lucky I didn't choose to wipe you out last crisis).

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i feel like the fermi paradox cycles too fast

    zoom in to a planet and you lose a cycle of clickable things, try to read the additional information on a planet and suddenly it zooms out and tells you there's an event to click

    just like, needs a pass on its pace or something

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    i feel like the fermi paradox cycles too fast

    zoom in to a planet and you lose a cycle of clickable things, try to read the additional information on a planet and suddenly it zooms out and tells you there's an event to click

    would you consider that a paradox

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Son of a bitch

    I goofed up my ME2 mission order and
    Half my kidnapped crew got gooped.

    My main crew is fully loyal and I got all the Normandy upgrades so they're gonna live but all the named cerebrus crew got turned into paste. I accidentally installed the IFF before activating Legion and doing his loyalty mission so I guess the game had an internal clock running and I didn't get through the relay in time.

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Son of a bitch

    I goofed up my ME2 mission order and
    Half my kidnapped crew got gooped.

    My main crew is fully loyal and I got all the Normandy upgrades so they're gonna live but all the named cerebrus crew got turned into paste. I accidentally installed the IFF before activating Legion and doing his loyalty mission so I guess the game had an internal clock running and I didn't get through the relay in time.
    The amount of crew that gets gooped is decided by how many missions you do before going through the relay.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Son of a bitch

    I goofed up my ME2 mission order and
    Half my kidnapped crew got gooped.

    My main crew is fully loyal and I got all the Normandy upgrades so they're gonna live but all the named cerebrus crew got turned into paste. I accidentally installed the IFF before activating Legion and doing his loyalty mission so I guess the game had an internal clock running and I didn't get through the relay in time.
    The amount of crew that gets gooped is decided by how many missions you do before going through the relay.
    I only did Legion's loyalty mission but that was enough to goop Yeoman Chambers and I think the cook and somebody else I don't remember. But I'm Paragon Space Dad, goddammit I didn't want anybody to get gooped.

    I don't think I have a save before activating the IFF so I can't save scum it.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    cB557 wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Son of a bitch

    I goofed up my ME2 mission order and
    Half my kidnapped crew got gooped.

    My main crew is fully loyal and I got all the Normandy upgrades so they're gonna live but all the named cerebrus crew got turned into paste. I accidentally installed the IFF before activating Legion and doing his loyalty mission so I guess the game had an internal clock running and I didn't get through the relay in time.
    The amount of crew that gets gooped is decided by how many missions you do before going through the relay.
    I only did Legion's loyalty mission but that was enough to goop Yeoman Chambers and I think the cook and somebody else I don't remember. But I'm Paragon Space Dad, goddammit I didn't want anybody to get gooped.

    I don't think I have a save before activating the IFF so I can't save scum it.

    Before starting ME3 you could just use a save editor to tick the box in your ME2 save that you saved the crew. It is very easy.

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    cB557 wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Son of a bitch

    I goofed up my ME2 mission order and
    Half my kidnapped crew got gooped.

    My main crew is fully loyal and I got all the Normandy upgrades so they're gonna live but all the named cerebrus crew got turned into paste. I accidentally installed the IFF before activating Legion and doing his loyalty mission so I guess the game had an internal clock running and I didn't get through the relay in time.
    The amount of crew that gets gooped is decided by how many missions you do before going through the relay.
    I only did Legion's loyalty mission but that was enough to goop Yeoman Chambers and I think the cook and somebody else I don't remember. But I'm Paragon Space Dad, goddammit I didn't want anybody to get gooped.

    I don't think I have a save before activating the IFF so I can't save scum it.
    If you activate Legion before installing the IFF the game gives you enough time to do that loyalty mission. If you've done everything else but haven't activated him, the game has already decided you don't have any quests remaining and so kidnaps the crew sooner. Even if you activate him after installation, the timer's already set. When the crew is kidnapped, if you don't go through the relay immediately then they get gooped.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    The balance of Fermi Paradox is very strange. I was able to easily keep everyone alive on my second play but it didn't feel good at all.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited June 2021
    Unsighted has near instantly pissed me off with some incredibly obtuse design.

    It pretty heavily leans in on like, Metroidvania style speedrunning and sequence breaking as a way to play the game. When you beat both the main story demo and the boss rush demo, you see some absurdly fast dev times and are challenged to clear things as fast as them.

    Except the game is not at all designed to allow you to quickly attempt runs or restart. The boss rush time to beat is 30 seconds. If you die, it doesn't restart your timer and start you over... it just adds a death and keeps your timer running. There's no checkpoints, so not restarting is entirely pointless.

    Worse than that, there's not even any way to exit the boss demo once you start it, except clearing it. So if you want to challenge the dev's time (a 30 second affair), you've got to boot up the game, create a new boss rush file, pick up your weapons (why is this part of the boss rush mode?), finish the boss even if you screw up the run early, and repeat. Overall, for a 30 second speedrun, you're probably talking about at least 45-120 seconds of busywork + failed run for every attempt, when you could just let them choose their loadout in advance and celeste-speed respawn at the start.

    In the main story demo, there's also a bonus boss that's about a minute of running from the only respawn in the area, which is pretty annoying, and the speedrun times are basically "knows exactly what to do and executes it perfectly" and "knows exactly what to do but is a little slow going", rather than like, a perfect time and a time for somebody who is fast but not sequence breaking.

    E: The worst part is that the gameplay is pretty good in Unsighted, but the clunkiness of the inventory and way that everything is poorly designed for the high-end speedrunning the devs want makes it feel like it's failing to achieve its potential.

    milski on
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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    I played the Okinawa Rush demo.

    Emphasis on "rush" in the title. You move so fast that it's a little hard to control and there's a dash that lets you go even faster.

    On the lower difficulty levels it seems like a fun game about pushing the attack button, seeing a large number of varied attack animations, and killing buttloads of ninjas.

    On the higher difficulty levels it seems to be a game about getting your ass kicked.

    There are 14 difficulty levels, which is just ridiculous.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    Record of Lodoss War: Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth is good, it's a good game. I like it a lot. Recommend it. $20 metroidvania.

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