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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Noah Caldwell-Gervais takes a thorough look at Resident Evil.



    A very thorough look.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Noah should stop, or be made to stop with the complete disdain for edited product. Why not split the video into eras of the games? Like 1-3 as the first video? That would probably be 3+ hours!

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    Noah should stop, or be made to stop with the complete disdain for edited product. Why not split the video into eras of the games? Like 1-3 as the first video? That would probably be 3+ hours!

    Nah, keep doing things the way that people like. Besides the Youtube chapters clearly split things up.

    In fact I kind of love that he addressed the criticism about editing and audio quality in a video that takes place outside near a highway on a windy day.



    ...like it has to be a deliberate troll right?

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  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    Dude produces some of the best writing games around. He's also a great voice, so i don't mind that he records in long chunks, with the occasional mistake, rather than doing some of the hyper editted, every sentence is perfect, style that a lotta other people have.

    Personally i can handle him dropping all 7 and a half hours of content at once, since ill just be taking breaks anyway

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    Noah should stop, or be made to stop with the complete disdain for edited product. Why not split the video into eras of the games? Like 1-3 as the first video? That would probably be 3+ hours!

    Nah, keep doing things the way that people like. Besides the Youtube chapters clearly split things up.

    In fact I kind of love that he addressed the criticism about editing and audio quality in a video that takes place outside near a highway on a windy day.



    ...like it has to be a deliberate troll right?

    DO people (in general) like it? I'm comparing his channel and Patreon to other people who put out similar content, and I wonder how badly he's chopping his potential audience off at the knees. Please note, I'm not saying he should change the actual content of the videos. I just think professional caliber audio editing and literally ANY level of thought about video length should be considered. Is there really an argument that his dedicated fans would like the videos less if he took multiple audio takes to state his script in a clear manner throughout? That he take script passes to remove thoughts expressed 5 or 6 different times already? The opposing example would be Tim Rogers, who also makes obnoxiously long videos, but is also extremely careful with editing them, while Noah seems to do none whatsoever.

    Edit: Actually watching this video provided, yes this seems positively adversarial. "Oh, you think my audio quality is unprofessional? How about a video to explain myself where I record wind noise and get distracted by cars, then state that you can have your money back if you think it sucks?! How about that??" It seems ungenerous to take critical feedback and respond with "take all your money back, then." Is he trying to make it a truism that his only REAL fans are those who unquestioningly accept every bad decision he makes? That's certainly a choice to make.

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  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    i think you're underestimating the amount of effort that goes into the videos

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular


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  • GlalGlal Registered User regular

    oh saw an article about that
    https://kotaku.com/no-one-can-fully-explain-this-baffling-roblox-ad-scam-1847431110
    the TL;DR
    Still, this entire charade has made one thing crystal clear: The internet isn’t made for you or I. Once upon a time, maybe, but not anymore. Pretty much everything on the web—articles meant to game Google’s front page, audio files designed to blitz from TikTok clip to TikTok clip, videos that exist for the sole purpose of juicing social media ad networks—is crafted for the “eyes” of algorithms and bots, a joyless paint-by-numbers machine that’s working exactly as intended. The internet’s hosting a big, endless, money-making party. We’re not invited.
    Charles Stross was a fucking prophet when he wrote Accelerando...

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    edited August 2021
    Actually watching this video provided, yes this seems positively adversarial. "Oh, you think my audio quality is unprofessional? How about a video to explain myself where I record wind noise and get distracted by cars, then state that you can have your money back if you think it sucks?! How about that??" It seems ungenerous to take critical feedback and respond with "take all your money back, then." Is he trying to make it a truism that his only REAL fans are those who unquestioningly accept every bad decision he makes? That's certainly a choice to make.

    Well, I thought it was funny. Which might have been the extent of the point. I think he's setting boundaries for his viewers. He has a thing he wants to make, X way, so for now, please don't purchase the product and push for Y way.

    (also sweet thunderbird)

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  • DiarmuidDiarmuid Amazing Meatball Registered User regular
    7 and a half hours of anything seems like too much to me

    Except sleeping

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    Midnite wrote: »
    It has happened.

    Dan just achieved 32/32 non-shortcut records in Mario Kart 64. He only reached 31/32 once, and converted it to 32/32 later the same day.

    Check out the moment it happened -

    Holy shit!


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  • PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular

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  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    ok, there's a moment in the noah video where he finishes off a long thing about re4 and then his dog starts barking and he says "fucking god damnit" and then cuts to the next game

    i love it

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    id watch that anime

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    I normally consider multi-hour youtube videos a sign that the creator needed to cut more chaff, but with Caldwell-Gervais he consistently manages to be on-topic, interesting, and meaningful for the entire length of his videos no matter how long they get, so I'm assuming that'll be the case with this video too.

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    Noah should stop, or be made to stop with the complete disdain for edited product. Why not split the video into eras of the games? Like 1-3 as the first video? That would probably be 3+ hours!

    From what I've heard from video essay-type youtubers, splitting your video into parts is the single worst thing you can do on the platform. For multi-part videos, there tends to be a dip in views between the first and second (and further more so on third and fourth) part, and even when it isn't a huge dip, Youtube's genius algorithm sees it as a downward trend for your channel and starts to de-prioritize promoting you in recommends and such (since you're on a downward trajectory, you're not going to make them any money, so they'll promote someone who will).

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    reVerse wrote: »
    Noah should stop, or be made to stop with the complete disdain for edited product. Why not split the video into eras of the games? Like 1-3 as the first video? That would probably be 3+ hours!

    From what I've heard from video essay-type youtubers, splitting your video into parts is the single worst thing you can do on the platform. For multi-part videos, there tends to be a dip in views between the first and second (and further more so on third and fourth) part, and even when it isn't a huge dip, Youtube's genius algorithm sees it as a downward trend for your channel and starts to de-prioritize promoting you in recommends and such (since you're on a downward trajectory, you're not going to make them any money, so they'll promote someone who will).

    I would think that depends on how meaty each part is. If you have two 45 minute parts, yeah maybe there's a benefit to making one long video out of it. At seven plus hours, he could have made three satisfying two hour long videos and given each space to breath and get their own ads. As an example from another media analysis channel, Lindsay Ellis made three Hobbit videos and yes, each one dropped in viewership... but they're all still TREMENDOUSLY popular and full length in their own right. Same with Omegaverse (less of a drop there between parts). Ultimately, if he's satisfied with the way things are, that's the way they'll be. Doesn't mean I have to agree with the decision making process there.

  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    slamming out 18 mini essays in sequence does allow for some great transitions between topics, particularly the one from reo2 to re4 in this case

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    In The Apple 3:18


    Youtube is starting to recommend me touhou stuff again which is neat of them

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  • JedocJedoc The world is full of smart, kind, thoughtful and implacable enemies.Registered User regular
    How one little boat (and me) held up miles of London traffic

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  • DiarmuidDiarmuid Amazing Meatball Registered User regular

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular

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  • GlalGlal Registered User regular
    Oh heck yes.

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    The problem with very long videos is the stupid YouTube app decides I'm not watching a video anymore after like 20 minutes of doing something else and I have to find my spot again

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  • TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular


    Oh no it's ren and stimpy

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    The problem with very long videos is the stupid YouTube app decides I'm not watching a video anymore after like 20 minutes of doing something else and I have to find my spot again

    Yeah, even something as simple as going to the video from a search instead of from history can delete your saved place. If YouTube was rock solid on this point, but it's incredibly not. My "favorite" YouTube quirk of late: randomly signing out of my signed in profile on my Xbox. I actually watched it happen during a forced ad play recently. Then, I have to put in an access code on my phone to get re-signed in, how do app designers stay employed...

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    I found a holiday edition of the neo geo mini. This guy put a battery pack on the back of his minis.

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  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    How a Mini drill tool defeated security on the Xbox 360 | MVG


    people would really do anything to pirate 360 games, lol

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular


    Julia feigning ignorance is my favourite Julia.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular

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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular

    "I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
    Real strong, facetious.

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    Pekora works in the HOST BAR!? Pekora's virginity HAZARD (Hololive 3rd host club -Pekora-) 3:37


    Rushia can use HYPNOSIS! (Hololive 3rd host club -Rushia-) 3:17


    [Original Stream]

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  • ElaroElaro Threadkiller, Harbinger of the Lock GodsRegistered User regular
    Peas wrote: »
    Pekora works in the HOST BAR!? Pekora's virginity HAZARD (Hololive 3rd host club -Pekora-) 3:37


    Rushia can use HYPNOSIS! (Hololive 3rd host club -Rushia-) 3:17


    [Original Stream]

    Ew

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular

    I have a problem with this argument, in that it dodges the hard questions for the easy answers.

    Or to put it simply, Bobby Kotick is as much symptom as he is cause. That doesn't mean that he doesn't hold responsibility for allowing this environment on his watch - but at the same time, we need to acknowledge that the rot at Blizzard predates Activision, predates Vivendi, and was there when they were an independent darling. What happened there is emblematic of deeper issues in the industry that go beyond the boardroom.

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