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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I agree, but also Blizzard's been a wholly owned subsidiary for longer than most people realize. It stopped being an independent studio even before it was renamed Blizzard in 1994 and released Warcraft 1, the founders sold the studio to Davidson and Associates earlier in that year when it was still called Silicon and Synapse. And then various buyouts and mergers over the years eventually lumped it into Vivendi, before eventually Vivendi went defunct and merged with Activision.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    I agree, but also Blizzard's been a wholly owned subsidiary for longer than most people realize. It stopped being an independent studio even before it was renamed Blizzard in 1994 and released Warcraft 1, the founders sold the studio to Davidson and Associates earlier in that year when it was still called Silicon and Synapse. And then various buyouts and mergers over the years eventually lumped it into Vivendi, before eventually Vivendi went defunct and merged with Activision.

    Pretty sure saying all those names back to back is how you unlock the Necronomicon

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular

    I have a problem with this argument, in that it dodges the hard questions for the easy answers.

    Or to put it simply, Bobby Kotick is as much symptom as he is cause. That doesn't mean that he doesn't hold responsibility for allowing this environment on his watch - but at the same time, we need to acknowledge that the rot at Blizzard predates Activision, predates Vivendi, and was there when they were an independent darling. What happened there is emblematic of deeper issues in the industry that go beyond the boardroom.

    You're not exactly wrong, but Jim goes hard after capitalism itself. You don't need to bring up underlying causes to them, of all people.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular

    I have a problem with this argument, in that it dodges the hard questions for the easy answers.

    Or to put it simply, Bobby Kotick is as much symptom as he is cause. That doesn't mean that he doesn't hold responsibility for allowing this environment on his watch - but at the same time, we need to acknowledge that the rot at Blizzard predates Activision, predates Vivendi, and was there when they were an independent darling. What happened there is emblematic of deeper issues in the industry that go beyond the boardroom.

    You're not exactly wrong, but Jim goes hard after capitalism itself. You don't need to bring up underlying causes to them, of all people.

    Capitalism isn't the root cause of misogyny, though - leftist systems have a long, ignoble history of it as well.

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  • GlalGlal Registered User regular
    It's not the direct root, however capitalism directly encourages attacks against marginalised groups, any and all of them including women, because doing so allows those on top to remain there while those under are busy fighting those below them.

    That said, while acknowledging that it's shit, and that misogyny is a systemic issue, is important, it doesn't actually do anything to fix it. You're never going to have enough people convinced to just throw out an existing system wholecloth, no matter how shit. Removing those with the power to stop it that hadn't until you get people who do so is an actual practical result that begins fixing the mess (and you're never going to accomplish anything before that happens, because if the top is rotten all good will be undone below them).

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    Gay Bar Murder Mysteries, from Starsky & Hutch to Murder She Wrote

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  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    ok, i love this resident evil video

    this whole section about the run of terrible games between 4 and 7 is just real good

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    I'm sorry if you find out this way.

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular


    How The Immune System ACTUALLY Works – IMMUNE

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Normally I would decry a seven hour run time but I suppose its an hour per game not counting remakes and whatnot

  • GlalGlal Registered User regular
    Not even, it's 18 Resi games.

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    That Quentin Reviews shit is still unconscionable though like genuinely immoral lengths of time criminally actionable lengths of time

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  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular

    Master Safecracker Rates 10 Safecracking Heists In Movies And TV | How Real Is It?

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    pretty interesting, as those expert videos go. Also I'd never heard of that Korean movie, looks pretty interesting.

  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    I like that one because he's actually brutal about how fake it is, I feel like some of them are trying to be good sports with it and he's like lol uh...no

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited August 2021


    might be a coincidence, but just to be safe, fuck Frito-Lay :+1:

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    How many more sonic things are going to be made? How much can you fuck over one brand without it losing value entirely?

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  • TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    The Sonic movie was good

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Knickers the Enchilada

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  • GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    Sonic was a fun time!

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  • ThePantsAssociationThePantsAssociation A million could-be years on a thousand may-be worldsRegistered User regular
    How many more sonic things are going to be made? How much can you fuck over one brand without it losing value entirely?

    All brands must live forever as a source of corporate revenue. (Source: I'm a Millennial)

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular

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  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    Sonic was the most succesful superhero movie of 2020

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    How many more sonic things are going to be made? How much can you fuck over one brand without it losing value entirely?

    sonic's brand is only going up hth

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  • JedocJedoc The world is full of smart, kind, thoughtful and implacable enemies.Registered User regular
    Truly, we are in the midst of a Sonic boom.

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    How many more sonic things are going to be made? How much can you fuck over one brand without it losing value entirely?

    If Sonic 06 didn't kill it dead, aint nothing gonna.

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  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular


    New capsule ferry

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Sonic has a ravenous fanbase that will demand additional installments, pay for and then hate each one as it comes out, and attack perceived "ruiners" of the franchise mercilessly via cyberbullying. The franchise is truly all grown up, like Star Wars or DBZ.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    sonic has an entire generation of fans born after sonic '06 that have known basically a single good sonic game in their lifetime, and they still eat that shit up

  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Knuckles is going to be rated R.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    sonic has an entire generation of fans born after sonic '06 that have known basically a single good sonic game in their lifetime, and they still eat that shit up

    Colors, Generations, and Mania are three good games...

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. boom Registered User regular
    the thing about sonic is that over time people have just sort of blindly started calling sonic games bad without anyone ever actually playing them

    sonic is a successful media franchise and the internet is not prepared for that

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    the thing about sonic is that over time people have just sort of blindly started calling sonic games bad without anyone ever actually playing them

    sonic is a successful media franchise and the internet is not prepared for that

    There's two facets to sonic

    The games, which are pretty middling with a few gems

    The fandom, which is hive of scum and villainy

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    I never liked Sonic games even when they were good (the Genesis ones), so I've just accepted that it's not for me, at least gameplay-wise.

    The culture around it is pretty fun to peek in on from time to time tho, with stuff like the cutscene redubs and "Top Ten Hottest Sonic Female Characters" video

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    I just realized 2006 was fifteen years ago.

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