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[Overwatch 2] OWL Begins April 27

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  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Nooooo! They were my favourite casters. I hope they do co-streams like Avast.

  • Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    In Sideshow's tweet he specifically mentions co-streams and Plat Chat still being a thing they'll do, I think they just don't feel good about directly working with the company itself (and while they might not say it outright, they're probably concerned about hitching their wagon directly to a property that doesn't seem to know where the fuck it's going)

    SirToastymiscellaneousinsanity
  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    In Sideshow's tweet he specifically mentions co-streams and Plat Chat still being a thing they'll do, I think they just don't feel good about directly working with the company itself (and while they might not say it outright, they're probably concerned about hitching their wagon directly to a property that doesn't seem to know where the fuck it's going)

    The entire OWL talent ecosystem has been not-so-low-key imindanger.gif since the offseason began.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
    SirToastyMidnite
  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    Bren and Sideshow have also been doing a lot of Valorant stuff for a while now, and just recently did some official broadcast stuff for them. They may simply have gotten a better offer. Sideshow at least was always very up front that one reason he did a lot of Valorant content was so that he wasn't stuck as only an OW caster, with what that would inevitably do to his bargaining power.

    It's a big bummer but it also feels a little inevitable.

    A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
  • Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Oh for sure, pretty much everyone except for like Super has gotta be sweating bullets. I'm just not sure how vocal about that stuff Bren and Sideshow specifically have been and didn't wanna assume.

    Houk the Namebringer on
  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    Bren and Sideshow have also been doing a lot of Valorant stuff for a while now, and just recently did some official broadcast stuff for them. They may simply have gotten a better offer. Sideshow at least was always very up front that one reason he did a lot of Valorant content was so that he wasn't stuck as only an OW caster, with what that would inevitably do to his bargaining power.

    It's a big bummer but it also feels a little inevitable.

    I would be surprised if Sideshow and Bren have, or expect to have, formal employment contracts as casters/desk for Valorant given the talent ecosystem got pretty well established during the first year. I would expect a year of doing official co-streams and other content of both OWL and Valorant under the PlatChat brand with the occasional guest casting in either esport.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Rumors are that Xzi will be signing with Valiant. Diya, Xzi, Innovation (also Becky) is a very strong DPS lineup. They still don't have a tank player announced though and only Coldest on support.

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Let me tell you, playing a tank in the current Experimental card is a trip because you cannot die unless you turbofeed and even then you probably won't.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    i was gonna say, at times being on rein tonight felt like playing Bumper Simulator

    you can do some truly goofy, deeply stupid shit and just never get punished for it

    SirToasty
  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    This experimental card is definitely the closest to the Bumper experience that you will get with a twist where all you do as a tank is take space while not doing damage with some truly wacky shit thrown in which I think the below video is a good demonstration of.

    https://youtu.be/q3BYCqKcnbw

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Hunters sign Aprita. Expected and deserved. He's real good.

    Packing10 (former Valiant GM) had been hired as the OWL Competitive Operations Manager. Not sure of the details of what that entails but he knows his shit and having him in the league in an official capacity is good.

    Justice are teasing some OWL '22 news tomorrow so be ready for that.

    Also Soe and her husband are having a baby!

    H3Knuckles
  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited February 2022
    Matt "Mr X" Morello, OWL employee, is teasing something tomorrow



    On the one hand Matt's been acting like some big announcement is coming soon for the last week+

    On the other hand he is god's own troll

    edit: Washington Justice are teasing OWL news tomorrow now too, so yeah something's coming tomorrow. Here's hoping it's more news than just a schedule.

    Kana on
    A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
  • Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2022
    probably just the season start date if I had to guess

    which I mean is nice, but I'm not getting my hopes up for anything especially major

    Houk the Namebringer on
  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Valiant signs Lengsa.

    Jjonak is leaving Seoul to take a break from pro play.

    Dexerto reporting that Western homestands are back for 2022. Also that stages 1 and 3 will be region locked but stage 2 will be cross-regional. Stage 4 will not have it's own playoffs (similar to season 1 and 2).
    https://www.dexerto.com/overwatch/sources-overwatch-league-homestands-to-make-return-in-the-west-in-2022-1763657/

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    What's New In 2022 | Community Update #1: https://youtu.be/8qUJy3vSgS0

  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Shanghai signed Bebe for some reason...

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Apparently Xzi signing with Valiant fell through. I hope someone picks him up although I know he's trying to stay in Korea so he's a bit limited.

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Reports are that Valiant are signing MYKaylee since the Xzi signing fail through. A significant downgrade overall unless Kaylee has figured out positioning and such. His aim was always fantastic but was terrible in pretty much every other aspect.

  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    As an aside that experimental patch that went up is a good example of why I think its funny that folks think they could balance a game so much better than the devs.

    Most people's suggestions always end up feeling like Marvel vs Capcom 2 (Though I thought ML7 did a good job).

  • BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    The fade jump does make Moira more interesting to play.

    Also to int.

    Same thing, really.

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Halo reported in a now deleted tweet that access to OW2 beta is being rolled out to OWL teams.

    Get your hopium here!

  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    https://youtu.be/GgaWQMkS0AI

    TLDW: They're uncoupling the PVP and PVE modes. They're starting a PVP closed alpha this week for Blizzard employees and Overwatch League players. In April, they're doing a PVP closed beta. He also said they'll be doing more frequent developer updates.

  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    Closed Beta Signup page - https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/beta/

    It's getting pretty well slammed, I was able to sign up but lots of posts on reddit of folks failing to get in at first.

    A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    I got the error a few times but I waited an hour and now it went through. Keep trying!

  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    It's very funny that the closed beta is 2 full years after Echo. Whoops

  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    yeah site seems to be fine now, signed up with no issue

    we also got a handful of new ow2 redesigns in the batch of screenshots they released today

    not a huge fan of the sporty, athletic-wear type of look they're giving almost everyone (or the rounded, simplified art direction in general) but at least it works well enough for zenyatta and genji

    Kana
  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    It's very funny that the closed beta is 2 full years after Echo. Whoops

    Its also very funny that after two years of working the second try they still couldnt figure out how to make overwatch pve compelling and are just gonna kick the pvp changes out the door

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  • Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    It's very funny that the closed beta is 2 full years after Echo. Whoops

    Its also very funny that after two years of working the second try they still couldnt figure out how to make overwatch pve compelling and are just gonna kick the pvp changes out the door

    I'm not sure you can assume too much about the PVE side of things. They're kicking the beta out now because OWL players need to start getting playtime in OW2 for the upcoming season, and there's only so much time they can reasonably put between them having access and the rest of the playerbase. Plus PVP benefits way more from a longer, bigger beta than PVE would

    Basically it's less PVE is bad and more PVP needs to get out there ASAP

    (Obv the PVE could still be bad, but this move doesn't really mean anything in that regard one way or the other)

    Houk the Namebringer on
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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Also they aren't just gonna drop PvE into the client all if a sudden. That's the big selling point of OW2. They're gonna ramp up a big marketing push prior to launch. PvE depends on the PvP side of things being solidified as well. It's easier to trickle in the PvP stuff and build into the final release than to just push PvE out as an unpolished mess that constantly gets screwed up by PvP balancing.

    H3Knuckles
  • miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    edited March 2022
    from what they've shown of the pve it looks like it'll be just fine, it's the pvp balance they've always struggled with

    miscellaneousinsanity on
  • KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    It's very funny that the closed beta is 2 full years after Echo. Whoops

    Its also very funny that after two years of working the second try they still couldnt figure out how to make overwatch pve compelling and are just gonna kick the pvp changes out the door

    I'm not sure you can assume too much about the PVE side of things. They're kicking the beta out now because OWL players need to start getting playtime in OW2 for the upcoming season, and there's only so much time they can reasonably put between them having access and the rest of the playerbase. Plus PVP benefits way more from a longer, bigger beta than PVE would

    Basically it's less PVE is bad and more PVP needs to get out there ASAP

    (Obv the PVE could still be bad, but this move doesn't really mean anything in that regard one way or the other)

    I firmly believe that the PVE is definitely bad or they would have been showing way more of it

    2x39jD4.jpg
  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    yeah site seems to be fine now, signed up with no issue

    we also got a handful of new ow2 redesigns in the batch of screenshots they released today

    not a huge fan of the sporty, athletic-wear type of look they're giving almost everyone (or the rounded, simplified art direction in general) but at least it works well enough for zenyatta and genji

    Eugh, is that big round bot Bastion's redesign?

    Edit: nevermind, I am dumb. Bastion's tank form is in one of the earlier pictures, so that's a new omnic character? The one making a wall in the picture with the Shimada brothers and Reinhardt.

    H3Knuckles on
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  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    yeah site seems to be fine now, signed up with no issue

    we also got a handful of new ow2 redesigns in the batch of screenshots they released today

    not a huge fan of the sporty, athletic-wear type of look they're giving almost everyone (or the rounded, simplified art direction in general) but at least it works well enough for zenyatta and genji

    Eugh, is that big round bot Bastion's redesign?

    Edit: nevermind, I am dumb. Bastion's tank form is in one of the earlier pictures, so that's a new omnic character? The one making a wall in the picture with the Shimada brothers and Reinhardt.

    That's the robot from the new Push game mode.

  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    Oh, it's an NPC?

    If you're curious about my icon; it's an update of the early Lego Castle theme's "Black Falcons" faction.
    camo_sig2-400.png
  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    It pushes that wall toward the enemy spawn when your team is in control and vice versa when the other team is in control.

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Each team has a wall but there is only one robot. The walls get pushed slowly but mark permanent progress. The robot moves faster back and forth between the walls. If you push your wall all the way to the enemy's last point, you win. If time runs out, whoever pushed further wins.

  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    Ah, thanks for the explanations. I haven't been following the news that closely, as you can tell.

    If you're curious about my icon; it's an update of the early Lego Castle theme's "Black Falcons" faction.
    camo_sig2-400.png
  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    This vid's scheduled to come out in 9 hours from now: Overwatch 2 & What That Means for OWL Season 5 | Community Update #2

    https://youtu.be/ab_RC0q5Yts

    A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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