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[Western Animation] Not About Cowboys. Except When It Is.

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Xmen cartoons have a good track record so that's cool.

    Weird that they're like... specifically continuing/rebooting the 90s cartoon. Like I'm not unhappy but that's... weird.

  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    Xmen cartoons have a good track record so that's cool.

    Weird that they're like... specifically continuing/rebooting the 90s cartoon. Like I'm not unhappy but that's... weird.

    Nostalgia factor.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Best X-Men cartoon is the one with Australian Wolverine

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Registered User, ClubPA regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    Best X-Men cartoon is the one with Australian Wolverine

    Well I have good news because that was a prototype for the 90s cartoon

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  • 21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    Best X-Men cartoon is the one with Australian Wolverine

    No, no, that's an authentic canadian accent.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    Best X-Men cartoon is the one with Australian Wolverine

    No, no, that's an authentic canadian accent.

    G'day, meht.

  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    nobody has ever seen canada and australia in the same place, ergo, you can't say they aren't actually each other.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited November 14
    Gundi wrote: »
    nobody has ever seen canada and australia in the same place, ergo, you can't say they aren't actually each other.
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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Here's a clip from presumaby the first episode of the upcoming season of Centaur World. Really, really heavy spoilers for season 1.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I am not clicking on that link but aneurysm horse is best horse.

  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited November 18
    Anyway keeping up with Young Justice Season 4?

    It's real good. We finally got the backstory on how Oracle got injured in this verse, and it's so much better than fucking Killing Joke
    She took a sword blow that would have killed the Joker - not to save Joker's life, but to stop Cassandra Cain from loosing her own humanity.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The PIT, level 26Registered User regular
    Hey, everybody. Remember Earthworm Jim?

    He's back.



    Also this screenshot was how I found out
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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I think they are desperate to make GoT relevant again

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Hey, everybody. Remember Earthworm Jim?

    He's back.


    Here's the big ole caveat to this: nobody you've ever heard of is working on it. And it doesn't yet have a network/platform. And the company trying to do it is -- Interplay. Yes, that zombie is still managing to shuffle across the land, with occasional promises to do big interesting games dropping off its corpse.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Thats fine because the creator is a transphobic shit pile and hes getting nothing from this.

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    For something like this, I often wonder "who is the expected target audience?" The tone of the video there implies they're going after people who already knows who Earthworm Jim is, meaning it's likely a nostalgia play, but was anyone really clamoring for a new Earthworm Jim show such that something like this would get greenlit?

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Opty wrote: »
    For something like this, I often wonder "who is the expected target audience?" The tone of the video there implies they're going after people who already knows who Earthworm Jim is, meaning it's likely a nostalgia play, but was anyone really clamoring for a new Earthworm Jim show such that something like this would get greenlit?

    I can't focus on your post because I'm too busy watching Animaniacs on Hulu, playing Final Fantasy 7 Remake on my Playstation, and preordering tickets to The Matrix 4.

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Opty wrote: »
    For something like this, I often wonder "who is the expected target audience?" The tone of the video there implies they're going after people who already knows who Earthworm Jim is, meaning it's likely a nostalgia play, but was anyone really clamoring for a new Earthworm Jim show such that something like this would get greenlit?

    I can't focus on your post because I'm too busy watching Animaniacs on Hulu, playing Final Fantasy 7 Remake on my Playstation, and preordering tickets to The Matrix 4.

    But all of those things have fervent fanbases that were actively and noisily wishing for more of that stuff. I haven't seen anything like that for Earthworm Jim, neither game nor cartoon, especially not after the creator showed his whole ass.

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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    Opty wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Opty wrote: »
    For something like this, I often wonder "who is the expected target audience?" The tone of the video there implies they're going after people who already knows who Earthworm Jim is, meaning it's likely a nostalgia play, but was anyone really clamoring for a new Earthworm Jim show such that something like this would get greenlit?

    I can't focus on your post because I'm too busy watching Animaniacs on Hulu, playing Final Fantasy 7 Remake on my Playstation, and preordering tickets to The Matrix 4.

    But all of those things have fervent fanbases that were actively and noisily wishing for more of that stuff. I haven't seen anything like that for Earthworm Jim, neither game nor cartoon, especially not after the creator showed his whole ass.

    How fervent were the My Little Pony and She Ra fanbases until fairly recently?

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Opty wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Opty wrote: »
    For something like this, I often wonder "who is the expected target audience?" The tone of the video there implies they're going after people who already knows who Earthworm Jim is, meaning it's likely a nostalgia play, but was anyone really clamoring for a new Earthworm Jim show such that something like this would get greenlit?

    I can't focus on your post because I'm too busy watching Animaniacs on Hulu, playing Final Fantasy 7 Remake on my Playstation, and preordering tickets to The Matrix 4.

    But all of those things have fervent fanbases that were actively and noisily wishing for more of that stuff. I haven't seen anything like that for Earthworm Jim, neither game nor cartoon, especially not after the creator showed his whole ass.

    How fervent were the My Little Pony and She Ra fanbases until fairly recently?

    Decently - remember, FiM creator Lauren Faust routinely posted art and designs under a classic MLP inspired username for years prior to the show.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The PIT, level 26Registered User regular
    I think EWJ is regarded not unkindly as a property. Those who like it, like it a lot, and remember it fondly. Trying to launch an animated series about an existing property that has at least some fans is probably easier than launching an entirely new property with zero fans.

    Anyone who knows and likes Jim enough to be interested in the series in the first place, and also knows that the creator is a wad, will likely be mollified by the knowledge that he isn't involved.

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  • TastyfishTastyfish Registered User regular
    I didn't know he was a wad and are both glad it's back (wait was it more than a game?) and glad he's not involved!

  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Opty wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Opty wrote: »
    For something like this, I often wonder "who is the expected target audience?" The tone of the video there implies they're going after people who already knows who Earthworm Jim is, meaning it's likely a nostalgia play, but was anyone really clamoring for a new Earthworm Jim show such that something like this would get greenlit?

    I can't focus on your post because I'm too busy watching Animaniacs on Hulu, playing Final Fantasy 7 Remake on my Playstation, and preordering tickets to The Matrix 4.

    But all of those things have fervent fanbases that were actively and noisily wishing for more of that stuff. I haven't seen anything like that for Earthworm Jim, neither game nor cartoon, especially not after the creator showed his whole ass.

    How fervent were the My Little Pony and She Ra fanbases until fairly recently?

    MLP had a strong creative community based around modding the pony toys that's been going strong for decades. She-Ra has been used for memes and symbols since it was created.

  • ThePantsAssociationThePantsAssociation A million could-be years on a thousand may-be worldsRegistered User regular
    edited November 20
    My understanding is that the MLP creative community that existed before Friendship is Magic wasn't what made the show big. In fact, the new fans were somewhat hostile to the the fans of OG ponies.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    My understanding is that the MLP creative community that existed before Friendship is Magic wasn't what made the show big. In fact, the new fans were somewhat hostile to the the fans of OG ponies.

    It used to be my go to semi-obscure 80s reference that I used for giggles, admittedly based on that old "My Little Pony or Porn Star" thing, which was ruined by coming back.

    Now I have to use Jem, which will never get a reboot ever. Ever. EVER.

  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    My understanding is that the MLP creative community that existed before Friendship is Magic wasn't what made the show big. In fact, the new fans were somewhat hostile to the the fans of OG ponies.

    It used to be my go to semi-obscure 80s reference that I used for giggles, admittedly based on that old "My Little Pony or Porn Star" thing, which was ruined by coming back.

    Now I have to use Jem, which will never get a reboot ever. Ever. EVER.

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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited November 20
    There was a 2015 attempted Jem reboot that was infamously a complete and utter trashfire, holding the record for the worst movie opening of 2015 and in the top five for worst ever for any 'major' release. It was so bad that it was yanked after less than two weeks.

    So now it does not exist.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The PIT, level 26Registered User regular
    What I keep wanting to get a reboot is Pirates of Dark Water.
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    It's lesser known but that's because it was ahead of its time. Nowadays with stuff like Airbender, Dragon Prince, etc. that kind of long-form dark fantasy adventure series could thrive.

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  • 21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    What I keep wanting to get a reboot is Pirates of Dark Water.
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    It's lesser known but that's because it was ahead of its time. Nowadays with stuff like Airbender, Dragon Prince, etc. that kind of long-form dark fantasy adventure series could thrive.

    Pirates are pretty cool.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited November 20
    An animated reboot for Pirates of Dark Water and a good live-action version of Exosquad (WITH A DAMN ENDING), that's all I demand.

    But seriously, being reminded of Dark Water makes me think the premise is just the right kind of tasty to mash up with stolen SG-1 stories for assembling a D&D campaign my sister wants to run.

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Hasn't MLP been like a consistent toy and media franchise that's been going on for decades? Like it gets rebooted once a decade or so but so long as it keeps selling merch it'll never be odd for it to get a new tv show.

    I don't think He-Man is quite as broadly successful a toy franchise but like, I'm pretty sure it also has been selling merch continuously literally since the original cartoon aired, and she-ra is under that brand umbrella.

    So they aren't quite the same as Earthworm Jim, a character in a media franchise that is both exponentially smaller and which hasn't really released literally anything of note in over twenty years. Like comparatively there's like a really high chance this TV show never actually gets made.

  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    An animated reboot for Pirates of Dark Water and a good live-action version of Exosquad (WITH A DAMN ENDING), that's all I demand.

    But seriously, being reminded of Dark Water makes me think the premise is just the right kind of tasty to mash up with stolen SG-1 stories for assembling a D&D campaign my sister wants to run.

    Technically we did get an ending for Exosquad.

    They just decided to Marvel Stinger it at the last moment for a season with a totally new conflict we were never ever going to get because ?????

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Exo-Squad was a French cartoon, right? If the show were ever continued, I'd want it close to the original and I don't think an American studio could pull off that European look.

  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I really want an Inhumanoid reboot leading up to a live action movie that robot balls and fireworks man is not allowed to even see, much less be involved in.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Lanz wrote: »
    An animated reboot for Pirates of Dark Water and a good live-action version of Exosquad (WITH A DAMN ENDING), that's all I demand.

    But seriously, being reminded of Dark Water makes me think the premise is just the right kind of tasty to mash up with stolen SG-1 stories for assembling a D&D campaign my sister wants to run.

    Technically we did get an ending for Exosquad.

    They just decided to Marvel Stinger it at the last moment for a season with a totally new conflict we were never ever going to get because ?????

    Because in that era, series weren't allowed to just end.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Dino-Riders needs a reboot that updates the dinosaurs based on all the new things we've learned, and adds a genuine educational element. Imagine learning about a cool fact about fossils, evolution, geology, or engineering with each episode.

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited November 20
    My understanding is that the MLP creative community that existed before Friendship is Magic wasn't what made the show big. In fact, the new fans were somewhat hostile to the the fans of OG ponies.

    The lifelong MLP fandom are the ones who went out of their way to watch a new My Little Pony show that was exclusive to a extended-package cable channel whose sole purpose was to be filled with shows that were for selling toys (new toy lines launched with them) and then spread the word that it was good (by pirating the fuck out of the show). The target audience of Friendship is Magic was not just those OG fans ,who Hasbro needed to pony up the cash to get access to the channel in the first place, but also their kids, who Hasbro hoped would ask their parents for the toys and their parents would oblige out of nostalgia and/or a genuine love of the franchise.

    And yeah, a subset of the new fans were actively hostile to the OG fans. Those types of people were also where you got some of the weird gross takes from, like "this show is obviously made for boys, because otherwise it wouldn't be so good."

    Anyway, back to Earthworm Jim, I think the target audience are the suits at Interplay who want it to feel like a big important company. It isn't being used to sell a streaming service, like She-Ra, nor are they trying to sell a game or toys with it, like MLP, nor do they have a big enough fanbase screaming for more, like Animaniacs/Matrix/FF7: they merely want one of their properties to be made into a new fancy 3D animated thing to prove how cool it is and, by extension, how cool they are.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Dino-Riders needs a reboot that updates the dinosaurs based on all the new things we've learned, and adds a genuine educational element. Imagine learning about a cool fact about fossils, evolution, geology, or engineering with each episode.

    Interesting fact: After the show and toy line ended, the molds for the dinosaur figures saw rotation in making educational dinosaur toys, armor interfaces and all.

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  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    edited November 20
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Exo-Squad was a French cartoon, right? If the show were ever continued, I'd want it close to the original and I don't think an American studio could pull off that European look.

    Nah, usual American production with animation in South Korea (AKOM specifically):
    The show was conceived in 1989 by Jeff Segal, who had been head writer and story editor of Challenge of the GoBots for Hanna-Barbera Productions prior to joining Universal as President of Universal Cartoon Studios. Segal intended to create another robotic boy-action property. The show was originally entitled Exoforce. It was modified in 1993 and the title was changed to Exosquad (as a result of a trademark conflict) when Playmates Toys made a deal for the Master Toy License. Segal receives "Created by" credit on the show, however Will Meugniot contributed immensely to the look and style of the show, and Michael Edens, as story editor, supervised development of episodic stories and helped to guide the story arc.

    Exosquad was among the first animated series by Universal Animation Studios (then known as Universal Cartoon Studios) and was created under influence of anime imported from Japan.[4] As a result, its complex story line covered a large number of topics from war through romance to genetic engineering and was able to appeal to a broad audience. Although the first season ran for only thirteen episodes in 1993, the rising popularity of the show allowed Universal to make the second one three times as long. In its second season, Exosquad was put together with another action series form Universal, Monster Force.[8] The series animation was provided for Universal by AKOM in South Korea.

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    EDIT: btw if anyone wants to see it again, it’s finally available again via Peacock

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