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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Okay we got more from Mainichi
    NARA -- A man under arrest for allegedly shooting former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe during a stump speech here has told police that he intended to target a senior official of a religious group, sources close to the case have told the Mainichi Shimbun.

    Tetsuya Yamagami, 41, a resident of the city of Nara who was arrested at the scene on July 8 on suspicion of attempted murder, has admitted to the allegations against him, according to the sources.

    During questioning, the suspect cited the name of a specific religious group and said, "I intended to target this senior official (of the group)." The named official, however, was reportedly not at the scene at the time.

    At the same time, the suspect has made nonsensical statements, and Nara Prefectural Police are carefully investigating whether he is mentally competent to be held criminally responsible.

    (Japanese original by Yuhi Yoshikawa and Mizuki Hayashi, Nara Bureau)
    https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20220708/p2a/00m/0na/030000c

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited July 2022
    Wtf? So some random crazy dude who wanted to murder someone else and than just killed who was there instead?

    That's incredibly random

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  • ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Tef wrote: »
    not trying to excuse shitty policies, but it's my understanding that in general, the japanese population is mostly center-right when it comes to politics? The interpreted actions of elected officials notwithstanding, it seems like this might not be a case of disconnected ruling elites just (and I emphasize "just" here) utilizing the executive branch for their own narrow interests as in America, but are actually trying to apply measures that appeal to the majority of their voting public

    and if that is true, do you assign blame to the Japanese nation as a whole because what is happening is just Democracy in Action(™), reflecting prevailing popular morals? where does the guilt lie, and here does it end

    they killed off most of the leftist opposition (metaphorically and physically), is the thing. I am not for a second suggesting, "fuck em, there's only right wing nutjobs left", to be clear. I am saying that consent for right wing policy has been manufactured in Japan since immediately post-WWII when the allies, for Cold War Reasons, made sure the Japanese right had all the resources they would need to dominate their political landscape

    Yup. They even have a name for it: The gyaku kosu, or Reverse Course. The Liberal Democratic Party is a CIA-backed organization, big surprise.

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    Elaro wrote: »
    Tef wrote: »
    not trying to excuse shitty policies, but it's my understanding that in general, the japanese population is mostly center-right when it comes to politics? The interpreted actions of elected officials notwithstanding, it seems like this might not be a case of disconnected ruling elites just (and I emphasize "just" here) utilizing the executive branch for their own narrow interests as in America, but are actually trying to apply measures that appeal to the majority of their voting public

    and if that is true, do you assign blame to the Japanese nation as a whole because what is happening is just Democracy in Action(™), reflecting prevailing popular morals? where does the guilt lie, and here does it end

    they killed off most of the leftist opposition (metaphorically and physically), is the thing. I am not for a second suggesting, "fuck em, there's only right wing nutjobs left", to be clear. I am saying that consent for right wing policy has been manufactured in Japan since immediately post-WWII when the allies, for Cold War Reasons, made sure the Japanese right had all the resources they would need to dominate their political landscape

    Yup. They even have a name for it: The gyaku kosu, or Reverse Course. The Liberal Democratic Party is a CIA-backed organization, big surprise.

    ‘Fun’ fact, this Reverse Course was the reason Abe’s war criminal grandad and also Japanese PM didn’t face justice for his crimes during WWII

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Stranger things have happened, but the idea that some crazy guy was there with a homemade weapon to kill someone completely unrelated and just happened to target a former prime minister instead is wild

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  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    Keep in mind that the Japanese police lean pretty heavy on confessions, often including false confessions.

    Not saying that guy didn't do it, seems pretty open and shut on that, but just because there's a confession of intent doesn't mean that's actually the motivation

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Tef wrote: »
    Elaro wrote: »
    Tef wrote: »
    not trying to excuse shitty policies, but it's my understanding that in general, the japanese population is mostly center-right when it comes to politics? The interpreted actions of elected officials notwithstanding, it seems like this might not be a case of disconnected ruling elites just (and I emphasize "just" here) utilizing the executive branch for their own narrow interests as in America, but are actually trying to apply measures that appeal to the majority of their voting public

    and if that is true, do you assign blame to the Japanese nation as a whole because what is happening is just Democracy in Action(™), reflecting prevailing popular morals? where does the guilt lie, and here does it end

    they killed off most of the leftist opposition (metaphorically and physically), is the thing. I am not for a second suggesting, "fuck em, there's only right wing nutjobs left", to be clear. I am saying that consent for right wing policy has been manufactured in Japan since immediately post-WWII when the allies, for Cold War Reasons, made sure the Japanese right had all the resources they would need to dominate their political landscape

    Yup. They even have a name for it: The gyaku kosu, or Reverse Course. The Liberal Democratic Party is a CIA-backed organization, big surprise.

    ‘Fun’ fact, this Reverse Course was the reason Abe’s war criminal grandad and also Japanese PM didn’t face justice for his crimes during WWII

    That guy was truly one of the most evil politicians who ever lived

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Stranger things have happened, but the idea that some crazy guy was there with a homemade weapon to kill someone completely unrelated and just happened to target a former prime minister instead is wild

    Here's the thing: if I'm an ex mdf guy who's gone through the trouble of crafting a gun, I'm not NOT going to take a shot if I see a guy who's deeply responsible for the militarization of japan's navy

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    I doubt he even played many video games so he's effed.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Wtf? So some random crazy dude who wanted to murder someone else and than just killed who was there instead?

    That's incredibly random

    Political assassinations throughout history generally are

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    I'll bet the person who shot ol' Abe did it because they wanted him dead for some reason.

    Time to pay up there, bud!!

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    .

    Oh god, I hope I never get shot in the Nara

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  • KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    If I was to get shot anywhere, Nara wouldn't be half bad

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    What the hell is Hillary doing in that tweet?

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Being an idiot

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    about the usual

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  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    What the hell is Hillary doing in that tweet?

    Desperately trying to stay relevant

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Is that an edit? What does Abe legitimately have to do with women? Other than you know the comfort women thing, which I cannot imagine Hillary referencing

  • HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Hillary Clinton desperately wants your attention and would like to remind you that she's the Most Qualified Woman Of All Time to run for president. This tweet is a reflection of that.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    He said he was going to revolutionise their economy by having more women in the workplace, but I think the results were lacking

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited July 2022
    What the hell is Hillary doing in that tweet?

    Reminding us that the ruling class’s interests by and large are in their own investment of power and that they will happily socialize with monsters because those class interests trump the values they claim to support.
    Is that an edit? What does Abe legitimately have to do with women? Other than you know the comfort women thing, which I cannot imagine Hillary referencing

    Abe was PM during a push to liberalize the Japanese workforce in regards to women not being confined to shitty jobs.

    It didnt go far enough and even if it did he is, again, a dude who denies the Japanese early 20th century colonial atrocities involving comfort women, which you would think for any Secretary of State would be an important thing to put on the ol’ scales.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    international politics brain is "support american allies, ignore their politics"

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Is that an edit? What does Abe legitimately have to do with women? Other than you know the comfort women thing, which I cannot imagine Hillary referencing

    sadly not an edit

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    DarkPrimus wrote: »

    ...feels kinda fucked up to instantly leap to anime jokes in a story about an unrelated Japanese guy, unless I'm missing some important context here, which is entirely possible

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    The only connection is that a lot of those recent stories about a person waking up in another world starts with the person dying and reincarnating.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    The only connection is that a lot of those recent stories about a person waking up in another world starts with the person dying and reincarnating.

    Also the tendency of Isekai to lean into right wing ideology

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Thanks for explanations.

  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    He said he was going to revolutionise their economy by having more women in the workplace, but I think the results were lacking

    These things are often pragmatic economic decisions- Saudi Arabia is in the middle of doing this as a way to diversify their economy as the world at large moves away from oil dependence

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    He said he was going to revolutionise their economy by having more women in the workplace, but I think the results were lacking

    These things are often pragmatic economic decisions- Saudi Arabia is in the middle of doing this as a way to diversify their economy as the world at large moves away from oil dependence

    Like when they let WWE have a women's match on the show, but made them wear full on body suits so no skin would be showing, but the dudes are still wrestling in trunks.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited July 2022
    Wtf? So some random crazy dude who wanted to murder someone else and than just killed who was there instead?

    That's incredibly random

    Political assassinations throughout history generally are

    Not in Russia! Those assassins were focused and relentless

    Although there were several where the intended target was like taking a shit or overslept and the assassins shrugged and “gotta nuke someone”d the other government-adjacent people they had access to

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited July 2022
    Lanz wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    The only connection is that a lot of those recent stories about a person waking up in another world starts with the person dying and reincarnating.

    Also the tendency of Isekai to lean into right wing ideology

    I didn't know that. But I have been told that I am what the kids call a "weeaboomer" because I prefer older shows.

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  • ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    Lanz wrote: »
    What the hell is Hillary doing in that tweet?

    Reminding us that the ruling class’s interests by and large are in their own investment of power and that they will happily socialize with monsters because those class interests trump the values they claim to support.
    Is that an edit? What does Abe legitimately have to do with women? Other than you know the comfort women thing, which I cannot imagine Hillary referencing

    Abe was PM during a push to liberalize the Japanese workforce in regards to women not being confined to shitty jobs.

    It didnt go far enough and even if it did he is, again, a dude who denies the Japanese early 20th century colonial atrocities involving comfort women, which you would think for any Secretary of State would be an important thing to put on the ol’ scales.

    He reshuffled his cabinet in 2014 "with the stated aim of promoting more women into ministerial posts" (says Wikipedia's article on him). The resulting cabinet included the most women in a Japanese ministerial cabinet ever, tied with Koizumi's first cabinet (formed in 2001). He nominated 5 women (or a little more than a third of his cabinet). Two of them, the Economy minister and Justice minister, were forced to resign 47 days later for election finance scandals. (The economy minister was later exonerated.)

    But Hillary's support of Abe is due to their common "girlboss" policy views. In 2013, Abe set a goal to have 30% of leadership positions be held by women by 2020. He also instituted policies to expand child care and force companies to be transparent about the number of women on the payroll and their positions. It's almost not bad, except for not addressing the fundamental issue of sexism in hiring married women and in the workforce in general...

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited July 2022


    WRT Clinton's dumb tweet but also the talk about the US deliberately cleaning house of as many political entities even remotely left of center as possible because Communism Bad, not just in Japan but in the rest of the world and domestically as well.

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  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Hillary Clinton desperately wants your attention and would like to remind you that she's the Most Qualified Woman Of All Time to run for president. This tweet is a reflection of that.

    Out of curiousity, did Hillary ever mention Victoria Woodhull while campaigning? I know she talked about younger women being able to look at her breaking through as an example.

    I feel like it was always treated as awkward when anchors had to say it as “First women to run for President...of a major political party” with the last part said rapidly like they do for the terms and conditions at the end of gambling ads.

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