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[MCU Movies] Spider-Man and Dr. Strange talk in their own threads!

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    I still think Red Skull being the guardian was the dumbest thing

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited May 12
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I still think Red Skull being the guardian was the dumbest thing

    It fit with the ending of the First Avenger and was a fitting ironic punishment for him; forced into service of an object of power that he desired but could never obtain.

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    edited May 12
    I'm still amazed they didn't incorporate Heimdall into the Soul Stone story in some way. Dude has orange eyes and a gem in his chest at one point, plus the whole "I can see every soul in the nine realms" thing... plus Thor's vision in AoU was very much focused on the Infinity Stones and oh hey, Heimdall has been blinded, weird coincidence!

    Maybe they didn't wanna dump too much exposition on magical mechanics in the opening minutes of Infinity War when we've got so much other shit to do, but I would've liked the idea that Heimdall was the current owner of the Soul Stone, Thanos tries to take it from him but whoops, doesn't work that way. Heimdall dying means it gets reset to Vormir. Could've even had some ominous foreshadowing dialogue between the two, Thanos asking where he found it and Heimdall throwing some "you could never give what I did to claim it..." shade at him.

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  • ChallChall Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I still think Red Skull being the guardian was the dumbest thing

    It fit with the ending of the First Avenger and was a fitting ironic punishment for him; forced into a service of an object of power that he desired by could never obtain.

    I still want to see the part where Steve goes to return the Soul Stone to its original place and finds Red Skull there.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I still think Red Skull being the guardian was the dumbest thing

    It fit with the ending of the First Avenger and was a fitting ironic punishment for him; forced into service of an object of power that he desired but could never obtain.

    but that wasn't the soul stone was it?

  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    I don't know if the specifics matter too much. He sought generic power. Now he's cursed to not only watch over power, but watch others obtain that power themselves. Heck we know it was generic power because he was using ostensibly the "teleport anywhere" stone solely to make super explody weapons with it. So he didn't even fully understand what he was dealing with, just that he wanted it. Granted this ties back into the whole storywriting issue, where at the time of writing the tesseract wasn't the space stone, it was just a cosmic cube of infinite energy. Regardless, he was dicking around with a stone, and... well some higher power decided to punish him for his hubris.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited May 13
    Chall wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I still think Red Skull being the guardian was the dumbest thing

    It fit with the ending of the First Avenger and was a fitting ironic punishment for him; forced into a service of an object of power that he desired by could never obtain.

    I still want to see the part where Steve goes to return the Soul Stone to its original place and finds Red Skull there.

    Steve is walking up, Red Skull steps ominously out of the shadows, flips back the hood, and we get a half-second of a surprised look before Rogers just fucking clobbers him without breaking stride. Skull goes down like a sack of racist potatoes.

    The scene ends with the camera aimed over Skull's awkwardly-unconscious form in a heap and Rogers just chucking the Soul stone over the cliff, then Rogers walks towards the camera, past Skull without a glance, and out of the scene. The camera briefly lingers as Skull slightly twitches and we hear a spaceship leaving.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod


    He’s dead, guys. Take the money you were going to spend on this and pay the comic book creators you’re stiffing a few extra grand.

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  • AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    That seems like just a colossal mistake that was probably a huge waste of money as well.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    That seems like just a colossal mistake that was probably a huge waste of money as well.

    If things get crazy enough for the one above all to get introduced, it might be fitting for it to be him

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »


    He’s dead, guys. Take the money you were going to spend on this and pay the comic book creators you’re stiffing a few extra grand.

    Selling his likeness for profit seems totally in line with the people who probably took over his estate, though.

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  • Snake GandhiSnake Gandhi Des Moines, IARegistered User regular
    I think it's gross, but let's not pretend like Stan wouldn't have been the first to sell if they'd offered.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I think the best part about their ability to adapt and change plots on the fly is the fact that they ended up with the situation being that half of the damn infinity stones are at one point within a 20 block radius of each other. "Spread across the virgin universe" my ass. :) And they still manage to not only poke a bit of fun at it but also make it work.

    One was there natively as far as we know: the time stone.

    Everything else was brought there by aliens

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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »


    He’s dead, guys. Take the money you were going to spend on this and pay the comic book creators you’re stiffing a few extra grand.

    I vote they instead use it to disappear the vultures that were picking at him until the day he died.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »


    He’s dead, guys. Take the money you were going to spend on this and pay the comic book creators you’re stiffing a few extra grand.

    I vote they instead use it to disappear the vultures that were picking at him until the day he died.

    ...who do you think they're paying the money to?

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  • LanlaornLanlaorn Registered User regular
    The Stan Lee cameos were a cute bit of fun and a great way to pay respect to his work on these characters, but keeping the tradition going with a digital necromancy puppet is pretty fucked up IMO.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Just have a picture of him on a wall or in a newspaper or something

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    The Stan Lee cameos were a cute bit of fun and a great way to pay respect to his work on these characters, but keeping the tradition going with a digital necromancy puppet is pretty fucked up IMO.

    It's the kind of thing we joked about but now it's just coming true because reality is just a shitty onion article

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  • ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Zavian wrote: »

    ALL BLACK THE NECROSWORD
    THE ANNIHILBLADE
    THE SLICER OF WORLDS

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  • ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
    Christian Bale's Gorr seems like a great villain, I'm hyped

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited May 24
    The interplay between Valkyrie and Jane is honestly one of the main things I'm looking forward to.

    Grape?

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    You flicked to hard, damn it! fucking killed me.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    Once again I'm shocked that THOR is the franchise I'm most excited about. That looked incredible.

    I really, REALLY hope they don't kill Gorr in this. I need a LOT more of that guy. Terrifying.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    Gorr is looking good. I don't at all care for Ragnarok or the super-goofy take on Thor and I don't want them to puncture the drama with Gorr, so hopefully they keep him serious and don't pants him or fart on him or something.

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    If Love And Thunder has Darcy too, I will explode with happiness

    bonus points for her sassing literally everyone at the same time

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Once again I'm shocked that THOR is the franchise I'm most excited about. That looked incredible.

    I really, REALLY hope they don't kill Gorr in this. I need a LOT more of that guy. Terrifying.

    After Thor 3 I'm here for everything Thor.

    I mean, really after Thor 1, but I don't like admitting to being fond of Thor 2.

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  • AphostileAphostile Registered User regular
    I’m hoping they better integrate the fun story and the story story this time. Felt like Ragnarok was two movies put together.

    It’s still one of my favorites in the MCU, don’t get me wrong.

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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    Gods have gotten really confusing in the MCU. You got the real gods like the Egyptians, the "gods" who are really advanced aliens like the Norse, and the gods who are really ancient robots sent by Celestials, who are more like actual gods than all the others. I wonder which ones the Greeks will resemble the most, and if they'll have their own Athena.

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Yeah, Ragnarok killed all the awesome/dramatic moment with jokes. Someone needs to tell Waititi no once in awhile.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Zavian wrote: »

    ALL BLACK THE NECROSWORD
    THE ANNIHILBLADE
    THE SLICER OF WORLDS

    Kinda just looks like a normal sword here

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Once again I'm shocked that THOR is the franchise I'm most excited about. That looked incredible.

    I really, REALLY hope they don't kill Gorr in this. I need a LOT more of that guy. Terrifying.

    After Thor 3 I'm here for everything Thor.

    I mean, really after Thor 1, but I don't like admitting to being fond of Thor 2.

    Considering Waititi made the best line in the Gorr arc approximately 300 times better, I am pretty confident I will like this one

  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Yeah, Ragnarok killed all the awesome/dramatic moment with jokes. Someone needs to tell Waititi no once in awhile.

    How dare a movie resolve dramatic tension with humor!

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    Kind of wild that out of the original heroes Thor is one one that’s on its fourth film and looking to still be fantastic.

    Out of Iron Man, Captain America and Thor (and Hulk, I guess) who saw that coming.

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  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    I liked Thor Ragnarok a lot - yes, it's predominantly comedic, but it works as that. However, I am a bit worried that they'll mainly try to redo everything that worked in Ragnarok, and if that's the case it risks becoming pandering and/or smug. "That worked, let's do it again" is rarely enough to make for good storytelling, and it tends to lead to diminishing returns.

    Then again, after Doctor Strange 2, which I found surprisingly unengaging, I'm not altogether stoked for the next MCU film, so perhaps my lowered expectations will be beneficial.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Witches 4 HQRegistered User regular
    edited May 24
    Orca wrote: »
    If Love And Thunder has Darcy too, I will explode with happiness

    bonus points for her sassing literally everyone at the same time

    Part of me wishes she'd gotten Mjolnir.


    I enjoyed Ragnarok, but it really felt like two different movies, and I found the Asgardian stuff far more interesting than the off-world side(even if it was hilarious).

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Gorr is looking good. I don't at all care for Ragnarok or the super-goofy take on Thor and I don't want them to puncture the drama with Gorr, so hopefully they keep him serious and don't pants him or fart on him or something.

    Never say never, but I feel like there's no fuckin' way he survives one movie, right? I get the impression Christian Bale is done with franchises.

    Oh brilliant
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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Gorr is looking good. I don't at all care for Ragnarok or the super-goofy take on Thor and I don't want them to puncture the drama with Gorr, so hopefully they keep him serious and don't pants him or fart on him or something.

    Never say never, but I feel like there's no fuckin' way he survives one movie, right? I get the impression Christian Bale is done with franchises.

    On the other hand, they have talked about how they have changed contracts so that those that don't want to be locked in for multiple, movies 3 of which are cameos and 2 are featuring or whatever have the option to have a schedule more amenable to their time

  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Gods have gotten really confusing in the MCU. You got the real gods like the Egyptians, the "gods" who are really advanced aliens like the Norse, and the gods who are really ancient robots sent by Celestials, who are more like actual gods than all the others. I wonder which ones the Greeks will resemble the most, and if they'll have their own Athena.

    Egyptian gods are interdimensional horrors, not terribly different from Asgardians except in their method of arrival.

    Olympus seems from the wide shots to be an Asgard style flat world.

  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Gods have gotten really confusing in the MCU. You got the real gods like the Egyptians, the "gods" who are really advanced aliens like the Norse, and the gods who are really ancient robots sent by Celestials, who are more like actual gods than all the others. I wonder which ones the Greeks will resemble the most, and if they'll have their own Athena.

    Egyptian gods are interdimensional horrors, not terribly different from Asgardians except in their method of arrival.

    Olympus seems from the wide shots to be an Asgard style flat world.

    Yup the only reason Gods have become confusing in the MCU is if you view them from a certain light.

    Pretty much all of the gods in the MCU boil down to "apparently really powerful and we don't know how they do that"

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