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"Badass" game protagonists?

XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Games and Technology
So, a throwaway remark in another topic gave me an idea for a thread.

Let's be honest, a lot of games aim to replicate the feel of the best action films; and a requirement for this kind of thing is a main character who is iconic, stylish, and any other cliches you can think of. A character designed to make the (presumably male) player desire to be them.
However, games seem to have a slightly rougher time replicating the Harrison Ford protagonist than we might have thought, and there have been a hell of a lot of different stabs at it.
Silent Gordon Freeman.
Wise-cracking Duke Nukem.
Wise-ass Dante.
DMC3 Dante, possibly aiming for "most irritatingly snarky guy ever" world championship award.
Morose, cynical Cloud.
Squall- laugh all you will, this is probably how he was intended.
Ball of muscle-and-pure-RAGE Kratos.
Faceless Master Chief.
Effortlessly cocky Yuri Hyuga.
Total pastiche Viewtiful Joe (I have at least one friend who misses the pastiche).
HULK. (smash?)
Supposedly world-weary Leon Kennedy.
Fourth-wall dismembering Gene.
Gloomy old Auron.
Supposedly Solid Snake.
Semi-Serious Sam.
Eyebrow-twitching Doomguy.
Max (imum) Payne.
Vegetarian bag (or something) HK-47

Yeah, you get the idea. They're all aiming for(or taking off) pretty much the same stereotype. Have they succeeded? Have they all failed laughably?
Discuss.

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  • AyeJayeAyeJaye Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    No Solid Snake?

    What the fuck?

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Solid Snake can break a neck with one hand and pleasure a woman with the other.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    AyeJaye wrote: »
    No Solid Snake?

    What the fuck?

    Seriously. Snake is arguably the most clearly modelled after an actual cinematic badass.

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  • paco_pepepaco_pepe Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ever silent, always expressive Link.

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  • setrajonassetrajonas Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    What about Samus? I guess she's not a guy, but she's pretty badass.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Serious Sam Stone.

    None more badass.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The whole being a mute takes away from Gordon Freemans 'bad assitude' and makes him seem slightly disconnected from his surroundings.

    I find Master Chief to be rather awesome, but I think a lot of that has to do with his amazing suit and his down to business demeanor.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Topic hastily edited to include Snake.
    I really should actually play MGS 1, 2 and 3, given I own them.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    And HUNK. He gained the nickname "Mr. Death" for being the sole survivor os his unit for every mission he's ever been on.

    Plus, he kills BOWs like nobody's business.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I nominate Samus.

    Possibly also Alexandra Roivas, because it takes balls to summon an ageless horror from before the dawn of mankind in order to save the world.

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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Solid Snake is pretty much the standard by which all other badassed main characters are measured. For example, the sole reason Raiden was made the playable character for most of MGS2 was that it allowed the gaming public to see how badass Snake was through another's eyes.

    Edit: Also, Axel Steel. He is metal.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Einhander wrote: »
    And HUNK. He gained the nickname "Mr. Death" for being the sole survivor os his unit for every mission he's ever been on.

    Plus, he kills BOWs like nobody's business.

    He's hardly a protagonist, though.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Snake is pretty badass. Sam Fisher is a badass, too.

    Snake will sneak up on you and snap your neck before you even know what happened, but Sam will usually make you squeel like a little bitch and beg for mercy after you tell him how many men are in your unit or where the missiles are located before he kills you.

    Sam would probably get his ass kicked by a Metal Gear, though.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Einhander wrote: »
    And HUNK. He gained the nickname "Mr. Death" for being the sole survivor os his unit for every mission he's ever been on.

    Plus, he kills BOWs like nobody's business.

    He's hardly a protagonist, though.

    He is in 4th Survivor, and was going to be in Outbreak.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Einhander wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    Einhander wrote: »
    And HUNK. He gained the nickname "Mr. Death" for being the sole survivor os his unit for every mission he's ever been on.

    Plus, he kills BOWs like nobody's business.

    He's hardly a protagonist, though.

    He is in 4th Survivor, and was going to be in Outbreak.

    Still, he's hardly as major as a protagonist in games than the characters I've actually listed.

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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Einhander wrote: »
    Snake is pretty badass. Sam Fisher is a badass, too.

    Snake will sneak up on you and snap your neck before you even know what happened, but Sam will usually make you squeel like a little bitch and beg for mercy after you tell him how many men are in your unit or where the missiles are located before he kills you.

    Sam would probably get his ass kicked by a Metal Gear, though.

    I agree on Sam Fisher's badassery. Well, Chaos Theory-era Fisher, anyway. Before he got all amoral and stuff.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Einhander wrote: »
    Snake is pretty badass. Sam Fisher is a badass, too.

    Snake will sneak up on you and snap your neck before you even know what happened, but Sam will usually make you squeel like a little bitch and beg for mercy after you tell him how many men are in your unit or where the missiles are located before he kills you.

    Sam would probably get his ass kicked by a Metal Gear, though.

    I agree on Sam Fisher's badassery. Well, Chaos Theory-era Fisher, anyway. Before he got all hobo and stuff.

    fix'd
    ;-)

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ashley Riot.

    That guy is so badass, he has a girl's name and it doesn't even matter.

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'd say Duke Nukem is fairly successfully in a Jack Burton from "Big Trouble in Little China" kinda way. The problem with most game protagonists is that they don't have much personality outside of cutscenes.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    harvest wrote: »
    Ashley Riot.

    That guy is so badass, he has a girl's name and it doesn't even matter.

    Who?
    Seriously. I do not remember

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  • paco_pepepaco_pepe Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    JC Denton.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Xagarath wrote: »
    harvest wrote: »
    Ashley Riot.

    That guy is so badass, he has a girl's name and it doesn't even matter.

    Who?
    Seriously. I do not remember

    Vagrant story (right?)

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  • MordrackMordrack Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    harvest wrote: »
    Ashley Riot.

    That guy is so badass, he has a girl's name and it doesn't even matter.

    Who?
    Seriously. I do not remember

    Vagrant story (right?)
    Yeah, it's Vagrant Story.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    harvest wrote: »
    Ashley Riot.

    That guy is so badass, he has a girl's name and it doesn't even matter.

    Who?
    Seriously. I do not remember

    Vagrant story (right?)

    Yeah. And he just gets more exceedingly badass throughout the game.

    Actually, pretty much every character in VS was a badass.

    edit: "I am the reinforcements."

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  • gneGnegneGne Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    "Horny" The Horned Reaper from Dungeon Keeper

    and ofcourse....

    Max Payne

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  • CG FaggotryCG Faggotry BristolRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
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  • One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    gneGne wrote: »
    Max Payne

    Hell fucking yes.

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  • AlejandroDaJAlejandroDaJ Registered User regular
    edited May 2007

    Yes.

    Also, Kate Archer.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited May 2007

    "Very good, I did not hear you traverse the room."

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  • gneGnegneGne Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Oh when talking about Snake... Gray Fox? Cyborg Ninja badass future Marv.

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  • LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    harvest wrote: »
    Ashley Riot.

    That guy is so badass, he has a girl's name and it doesn't even matter.

    Who?
    Seriously. I do not remember

    Vagrant story (right?)

    Yeah. And he just gets more exceedingly badass throughout the game.

    Actually, pretty much every character in VS was a badass.

    edit: "I am the reinforcements."

    Vangrant story, winner of the 'Its a fucking crime this game doesn't have a/more sequels' award (Previously held by Chrono Trigger, which still needs more games in its universe, but at least we got Chrono Cross)

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  • KiwistrikeKiwistrike Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'd say vergil was more suited for the role than dante ever was.

    and, to actually attempt to say something about the topic, yes, I think they've all succeeded. And done a lot more for the type than film ever did.

    I mean, is this a joke? The sheer volume of idealized, masculine heroics that goes on in 90% of the games produced today blows anything cinema has ever produced out of the water, by a long shot.

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  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
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    Whaddya bout this dude? He had a whole bunch of archetypes (the silent protagonist, muscle-bound supersoldier, sci-fi dude in a powered suit, vindictive anti-hero) all rolled into one red package. Plus, despite being an isometric game, you just felt like a goddamned badass playing him. Roll around from a corner, crouch down, blast five guards with an automatic assault rifle and hit an explosive barrel which makes another catch on fire and screaming in agony while massive explosions and carnage are going off everywhere. And then, while the flames are still burning, you stroll uncaringly through the wreckage and bodies like the badass motherfucker that you are. While an explosion goes off behind you for no reason. Man, those games were awesome.

    I mean, just look at that picture! I could not find one picture of the Silencer without a gigantic explosion behind him. It follows him wherever he goes like an obedient pet.

    That Boba Fett helmet also helps.

    edit: Hell, even his name is badass. "The Silencer". If that doesn't scream "fuckawesomebadass," nothing does.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Simon Belmont.

    Fucker takes on an army of the undead armed with little more than a whip.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    paco_pepe wrote: »
    JC Denton.

    A lot of the voice work was flat and sounded like the VA was trying too hard but one line was absolutely cold and awesome.
    "Well, since that makes you my new boss, take a long look at Manderley's dead
    body. Consider that my resignation; I don't have time to write a letter."

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    LockeCole wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    harvest wrote: »
    Ashley Riot.

    That guy is so badass, he has a girl's name and it doesn't even matter.

    Who?
    Seriously. I do not remember

    Vagrant story (right?)

    Yeah. And he just gets more exceedingly badass throughout the game.

    Actually, pretty much every character in VS was a badass.

    edit: "I am the reinforcements."

    Vangrant story, winner of the 'Its a fucking crime this game doesn't have a/more sequels' award (Previously held by Chrono Trigger, which still needs more games in its universe, but at least we got Chrono Cross)

    Someday, someone will give Matsuno the money and freedom he needs to make a spiritual follow-up to Vagrant Story.

    Someday :(

    If I ever win the lottery, it'll be me.

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I contend that Gordon Freeman doesn't belong on the list simply because he has zero personality.
    paco_pepe wrote: »
    JC Denton.

    A lot of the voice work was flat and sounded like the VA was trying too hard but one line was absolutely cold and awesome.
    "Well, since that makes you my new boss, take a long look at Manderley's dead
    body. Consider that my resignation; I don't have time to write a letter."

    Both he and Paul sounded like robots. I don't think he belongs on a badass list either. He wouldn't be so tough if he didn't have all kinds of cybernetic augmentations anyway.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    JWFokker wrote: »
    I contend that Gordon Freeman doesn't belong on the list simply because he has zero personality.
    I contend that the same applies to most of the list.

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  • VeegeezeeVeegeezee Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Not really a protagonist, I guess, now that I think about it... :P

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  • CG FaggotryCG Faggotry BristolRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
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