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The [US Congress] Occasionally Makes Laws and Stuff

ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
edited August 3 in Debate and/or Discourse
Hey kiddos, it's time for a shiny new US Congress thread, because the old one has a bunch of miles on it and we still can't get the stench out of the upholstery from when Uncle Tommy got shitfaced and horked in the back seat.

DO:

- Talk about stuff congress is doing
- Talk about specific bills, committees, or other congressional type stuff that might be happening at the moment
- Try to give posters the benefit of the doubt and assume good faith of people you disagree with
- Use the report button if you think someone is being a problem

DON'T:

- Talk about stuff only vaguely related to congress
- Get too into the weeds regarding discussion of future election prospects
- Engage with others in a hostile fashion
- Complain about other forumers in the thread
- Bring personal beef or gripes from other threads into this one
- Talk about violence, riots, or revolution as either the solution to, or the consequence of, congressional action or inaction
- Talk about the 1/6 coup - we have a dedicated thread for that

Remember, we have threads specifically for climate change, police brutality, the coup, the economy, and a host of other topics. If you want to talk about one of these subjects in an in depth fashion and there's not a bill active in congress right now, one of these threads might be a better fit.

Aaaaaaaand go.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Geth, kick @No-Quarter from the thread.

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    Affirmative ElJeffe. @No-Quarter banned from this thread.

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    Geth, kick @Kamar from the thread.

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    Affirmative ElJeffe. @Kamar banned from this thread.

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    Geth, kick @jungleroomx from the thread.

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    Affirmative ElJeffe. @jungleroomx banned from this thread.

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    Geth, kick @Lanz from the thread.

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    Affirmative ElJeffe. @Lanz banned from this thread.

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    Geth, kick @DarkPrimus from the thread.

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    Geth, kick @PantsB from the thread.

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    Affirmative ElJeffe. @PantsB banned from this thread.

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    Geth, kick @Premier kakos from the thread.

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    Affirmative ElJeffe. banned from this thread.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Man, I would really love to know how all of this eviction stuff played out behind the scenes that it exploded into a public "No U!" row before Biden finally decided to try and extend it three days after it expired.

    Like, what (if anything) was the original plan and where did it fall apart?

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    The post that closed the previous thread was really a disincentive to post in this one. But I will eat it.

    Anyway, of the Dem leaders Schumer again seems like the most flexible in his thinking. He went to congratulate Bush after the Biden policy leaked.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I believe the problem started back when Washington got drunk one night and was like, "Hey Hancock, c'mere, I got this idea for a HIC new country thing, Imma thinkin we cahhhl it HIC 'Murrica..."

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Promising backstage passes only to hog the first 12 posts between yourself and geth...some things never change.

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    Usually bots snap up way more than half the tickets. At least Geth isn’t greedy.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I have to imagine the eviction thing was basically a game of hot potato and the buzzer hit when Biden was holding it.

    Yay that he's doing something about it, though.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    The post that closed the previous thread was really a disincentive to post in this one. But I will eat it.

    Anyway, of the Dem leaders Schumer again seems like the most flexible in his thinking. He went to congratulate Bush after the Biden policy leaked.
    Schumer wrote:
    "For anyone to lose their home through no fault of their own is devastating, and it’s shameful that Republicans in Congress aren’t lifting a finger to help prevent it from happening.”

    Also this.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I have to imagine the eviction thing was basically a game of hot potato and the buzzer hit when Biden was holding it.

    Yay that he's doing something about it, though.

    Felt too fast for this to just be drawn up over a weekend, but whatever can keep people in their homes is a win.

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I have to imagine the eviction thing was basically a game of hot potato and the buzzer hit when Biden was holding it.

    Yay that he's doing something about it, though.

    Felt too fast for this to just be drawn up over a weekend, but whatever can keep people in their homes is a win.

    I really doubt this does anything but get injunctioned. That said if they spent the last month trying to find a way to rules lawyer it in, 1/100 it works? The phrasing did sound like something different not just a renewal.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited August 3
    Preacher wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I have to imagine the eviction thing was basically a game of hot potato and the buzzer hit when Biden was holding it.

    Yay that he's doing something about it, though.

    Felt too fast for this to just be drawn up over a weekend, but whatever can keep people in their homes is a win.

    If you had something cooking you definitely don’t let the deadline hit with a “ah fuck, we fucked that up huh” like they did

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited August 3
    Also pressure and yelling at them worked (in terms of them trying something, the odds are stacked against them on it sticking)

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited August 3
    Preacher wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I have to imagine the eviction thing was basically a game of hot potato and the buzzer hit when Biden was holding it.

    Yay that he's doing something about it, though.

    Felt too fast for this to just be drawn up over a weekend, but whatever can keep people in their homes is a win.

    I mean, nothing's been drawn up yet, really. They announced plans that they were going to make an announcement regarding a new moratorium.

    But it's a good move either way, even though he admits that it might not pass SCOTUS scrutiny, that it's worth trying, which it is. And I'd like to see a clean bill regarding this on the House as well, even though it obviously won't pass the Senate, for the same reasons.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    The post that closed the previous thread was really a disincentive to post in this one. But I will eat it.

    Anyway, of the Dem leaders Schumer again seems like the most flexible in his thinking. He went to congratulate Bush after the Biden policy leaked.

    Schumer went from a guy who I was groaning over running the Senate to a guy who's political instincts I actually have some respect for. Which I never ever expected.

    I definitely feel like a Senate where Schumer could actually whip votes would get a lot of good stuff done.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited August 3
    On student loans as well, Schumer has shown much greater situational awareness than most of his peers. He definitively speaks out in favor of things that have wide, popular support, even though he obviously can't pass them in the Senate. At least over the past few weeks.

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Schumer showing what you can sometimes get when you make a career politican scared for his job

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I have to imagine the eviction thing was basically a game of hot potato and the buzzer hit when Biden was holding it.

    Yay that he's doing something about it, though.

    It feels to me like they were counting on the White House extending this as needed and then the SCOTUS decision came down and Pelosi/Schumer basically said "Nothing is gonna pass Congress on this, what do you wanna do?" and then the White House was like "We'll think about it" and then said nothing until like 3 days before the moratorium was about to expire and then went "Hey Congress, do something about this" and then Congress went "Holy shit, seriously?" and then Congress failed to get anything done and then said "You do something!" and then this became such an epic clusterfuck that the White House scrambled to come up with something that seemed like it might vaguely maybe work and that's where we are.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited August 3
    Javen wrote: »
    On student loans as well, Schumer has shown much greater situational awareness than most of his peers. He definitively speaks out in favor of things that have wide, popular support, even though he obviously can't pass them in the Senate. At least over the past few weeks.

    I was listening to something like a year ago where they were talking to someone who used to work on Schumer's initial Senate terms back in the late 90s/early 2000s and even then he seemed very interested in appealing to a broad swath of the electorate and appearing on local news with his name connected to good things happening in that area and basically seemed like he had a generally good instinct for the need to always have your name attached to good things that are happening. It's what the intellectual exercise with the imaginary couple people mock him for is all about. And he shockingly seems to be updating that model for the times too.

    I don't think his plan of "pass things that make people's lives better" is enough, but it's definitely the required first step if the Democrats want to maintain control of the government.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited August 3
    shryke wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I have to imagine the eviction thing was basically a game of hot potato and the buzzer hit when Biden was holding it.

    Yay that he's doing something about it, though.

    It feels to me like they were counting on the White House extending this as needed and then the SCOTUS decision came down and Pelosi/Schumer basically said "Nothing is gonna pass Congress on this, what do you wanna do?" and then the White House was like "We'll think about it" and then said nothing until like 3 days before the moratorium was about to expire and then went "Hey Congress, do something about this" and then Congress went "Holy shit, seriously?" and then Congress failed to get anything done and then said "You do something!" and then this became such an epic clusterfuck that the White House scrambled to come up with something that seemed like it might vaguely maybe work and that's where we are.

    Absolutely, with the caveat that also they might have lost track of it at some point because they thought the $46b already funded meant this was moot

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  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Registered User regular
    edited August 3
    Seems like it is already drawn up, so I dunno. Maybe it was in the works?

    Here's the signed order from the CDC. (links directly to PDF)

    Effective until Oct 3/SCOTUS cuts it down.

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Whooooo I avoided tickets

    Emails going out this afternoon to Carper, Coons, and Blunt-Richardson about a bunch of things.

    Anyone have any suggestions on what else I should tell about other than filibuster, voting rights, infrastructure, and mask mandates?

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Registered User, ClubPA regular
    ....ok, Coup Man Group was a pretty good pun Jeffe.

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    ....ok, Coup Man Group was a pretty good pun Jeffe.

    Why you gotta do my blue boys dirty like that, Jeffe?

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Oh no I didn’t win the election yet. I’m afraid I just coup myself.

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    ....ok, Coup Man Group was a pretty good pun Jeffe.

    Why you gotta do my blue boys dirty like that, Jeffe?

    It's their just punishment

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited August 4
    Obviously I'm glad they did it, but the WH saying they have no legal authority to extend the eviction moratorium and then extending it literally the next day is bordering on Trump-level silliness.

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  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Never let it be said that the Democrats are at all competent.

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