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The Suicide Squad is going to blow your mind [open spoilers]

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    i think explicitly saying "he's not an evil person, he's just a bad guy" directly goes against how i feel about the character tho

    he needs a little bit of redemption before he can show up in the blue beetle movie

    ....

    fuck i take back everything i have said

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    I'd just like to say that as someone who isn't a wrestling fan and hadn't seen John Cena in anything before this, his willingness and ability at portraying the ultimate Ugly American is really astounding.

    august on
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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    i think explicitly saying "he's not an evil person, he's just a bad guy" directly goes against how i feel about the character tho

    I think (I could be wrong) what he's trying to say is that Peacemaker has a functional moral compass, yet he chooses to do acts that he understands to be morally wrong anyway. Which is how I saw him in the movie. If he was a psychopath, killing Rick would have meant nothing or been pleasant for him, similarly he wouldn't have blinked at killing Ratcatcher 2.

    I don't think I would say that Peacemaker has a functional moral compass.

    His moral compass is a lie. He would modify his moral compass in a moment's notice to excuse any reprehensible action.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    i think explicitly saying "he's not an evil person, he's just a bad guy" directly goes against how i feel about the character tho

    I think (I could be wrong) what he's trying to say is that Peacemaker has a functional moral compass, yet he chooses to do acts that he understands to be morally wrong anyway. Which is how I saw him in the movie. If he was a psychopath, killing Rick would have meant nothing or been pleasant for him, similarly he wouldn't have blinked at killing Ratcatcher 2.

    I don't think I would say that Peacemaker has a functional moral compass.

    His moral compass is a lie. He would modify his moral compass in a moment's notice to excuse any reprehensible action.

    As long as it’s in the name of “liberty”

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    i think explicitly saying "he's not an evil person, he's just a bad guy" directly goes against how i feel about the character tho

    I think (I could be wrong) what he's trying to say is that Peacemaker has a functional moral compass, yet he chooses to do acts that he understands to be morally wrong anyway. Which is how I saw him in the movie. If he was a psychopath, killing Rick would have meant nothing or been pleasant for him, similarly he wouldn't have blinked at killing Ratcatcher 2.

    I don't think I would say that Peacemaker has a functional moral compass.

    His moral compass is a lie. He would modify his moral compass in a moment's notice to excuse any reprehensible action.

    His moral compass is "anything for America", including things that are ostensibly anti-American.

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    I do think Peacemaker was conflicted about killing his teammates. I'd say it's like he was put to the test and failed, he didn't have the courage to place his new friends ahead of his fucked up ideals and identity, and as a result almost ended up shooting the only innocent squad member in the face.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    how dare you

    nanaue did nothing wrong

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    i think explicitly saying "he's not an evil person, he's just a bad guy" directly goes against how i feel about the character tho

    I think (I could be wrong) what he's trying to say is that Peacemaker has a functional moral compass, yet he chooses to do acts that he understands to be morally wrong anyway. Which is how I saw him in the movie. If he was a psychopath, killing Rick would have meant nothing or been pleasant for him, similarly he wouldn't have blinked at killing Ratcatcher 2.

    This is sort of the vibe I got

    He clearly isn’t enjoying what he’s doing at the end of the movie, so he’s not “evil” in the sense that he takes pleasure in it, but he’s doing evil things anyway because he thinks it’s for some greater cause, which makes him a bad guy

    We just can’t sympathize with him at all because we like the people he’s trying to kill and also we know the greater cause he’s fighting for is itself a force for self-interested evil in the world

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    Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    Why are they making a peacemaker show?

    I'm just gonna be over here stewing that the survivors don't use their freedom to found the secret six or something

    if i had to guess at a sequel, this is precisely what i would predict tbh

    Dex Dynamo on
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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    How the fuck did Peacemaker survive anyway? Not only did he get shot in the throat, but he was also in the building when Starro tore through it.

    Undead Scottsman on
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    how dare you

    nanaue did nothing wrong

    He trusted the jellies what with teeth.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    astrobstrdastrobstrd So full of mercy... Registered User regular
    How the fuck did Peacemaker survive anyway? Not only did he get shot in the throat, but he was also in the building when Starro tore through it.

    Comic books!

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    I was deadass certain the guy at the end was Rick Flagg too and I was like “oh of course they wouldn’t kill Rick Flagg, he’s too big a character”

    In my defense there were a few bandages and we didn’t get a long look at him and also Joel Kinneman and John Cena look similar

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    I wonder how the US covered up the deaths of multiple astronauts.

    LIke, in the real world, a multiple astronauts dying in space would be a huge fucking deal, but we don't have confirmed aliens running around so maybe that skews things.

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    GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Problems with re-entry. Rocket blew up or parachute failed or any number of other things. Going to outer space and back has a lot of dangers, and they were more dangerous back then.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Only ten mins in not reading this thread and holy shit this is the best superhero movie I've ever seen

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Also I still thought Jai Courtney was Tom Hardy.

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    LarsLars Registered User regular
    John Cena did the full tv interview circuit and went to the red carpet in his Peacemaker outfit.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    John Cena spent a lot of years doing dumber shit

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Ohhhh man they are letting Elba actually act

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    Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    I watched John Cena do stuff like this for a decade, nothing he did in the lead-up to this movie surprised me in the least

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icrlOXj7l6U

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Is John Cena actually left handed? He's taking notes left handed.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Is John Cena actually left handed? He's taking notes left handed.

    That's how you know he's sinister.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Sounds like he might be ambidexterous, or at least favors different hands for different activities
    Cena writes left handed but throws right handed and favors his right arm in the ring.

    Pulled of a random website, so I dunno how accurate it is.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    I am here for Cena's dick

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Holy shit I tried to rewind to see th bottom of Bloodsports mask and HBO MAx app set fire to my whole fucking house

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    What the fuuuuuuuuck polka dot man give that asshole an Emmy

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited August 2021
    Okay, if we were to look at the first two Suicide Squad films for how their teams are structured, we might have a better idea (this is a lie) about the constitution of a third Suicide Squad film.

    -- The constants would appear to be Amanda Waller and Harley Quinn.
    -- The team's unofficial leader is a guy who is really good with guns, played by an African-American leading man.
    -- The team will feature a superpowered yet soulful individual who is introduced with their powers having to be drastically contained.
    -- The team will feature a "heavy" that is some sort of aquatic man-animal that chomps down at people.
    -- The villain will be a threat that can convert ordinary people into its minions.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    God all night there's some real Doom Patrol DNA here

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Does a anyone at any point call Bloodsport, "Kumite"?

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Looking for th Americans when Cena is th most American looking guy on the planet is a real nice touch

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Jesus Christ, Margot Robbie is Harley Quinn.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Holy shit Cena's bicep veins

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    So you call James Gunn when you need a movie made out of superheroes no one has ever heard of before

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    So you call James Gunn when you need a movie made out of superheroes no one has ever heard of before

    Straight up, I think Gunn's predilection for the unknowns and the misfits really helps to sell them to a new audience

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    hey, please don't make that many posts all in a row

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    It's 2021 and after twenty years (it feels that long I am not checking if it's actually been two decades or not) of superhero movies the character with th deepest and most meaningful emotion is called Ratcatcher 2.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    -- The team's unofficial leader is a guy who is really good with guns, played by an African-American leading man.

    idris elba is not american

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    -- The team's unofficial leader is a guy who is really good with guns, played by an African-American leading man.

    idris elba is not american

    /Dave Chappelle Racial Draft.mov

    He played Stringer Bell ipso facto is from Baltimore

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    megaman it sounds like you're having a good night, good on you

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