IDK about the US, but on UK Amazon, which is a handy aggregator for this kind of exercise, the prices of video cards are literally falling by the day. I can see an XFX Merc 319 Black 6800XT in stock at £835 delivered right now, whereas the floor for 6800XTs was £1000 only a few weeks ago, and £900+ last weekend. The sellers are undercutting each other with £10-20-30 decrements every day or two. I strongly suspect that they're clearing stock while they can still get above-MSRP prices for it.
I haven't paid attention to the Nvidia cards, but I expect the situation there is similar. The resellers know that Ada is due soon - even sooner than RDNA3 - and mining demand has melted. Normally we'd be seeing prices 10-30% under MSRP at this stage in the cycle.
Oh God I just realized that my post sounds like I was bragging. I just meant that if you have a store like that nearby it might be worth checking if you can get one that way.
Oh God I just realized that my post sounds like I was bragging. I just meant that if you have a store like that nearby it might be worth checking if you can get one that way.
Nah, you're good, I didn't read it that way at all
I wish I had a Microcenter anywhere near me though. I think I'd wander around it regularly.
IDK about the US, but on UK Amazon, which is a handy aggregator for this kind of exercise, the prices of video cards are literally falling by the day. I can see an XFX Merc 319 Black 6800XT in stock at £835 delivered right now, whereas the floor for 6800XTs was £1000 only a few weeks ago, and £900+ last weekend. The sellers are undercutting each other with £10-20-30 decrements every day or two. I strongly suspect that they're clearing stock while they can still get above-MSRP prices for it.
I haven't paid attention to the Nvidia cards, but I expect the situation there is similar. The resellers know that Ada is due soon - even sooner than RDNA3 - and mining demand has melted. Normally we'd be seeing prices 10-30% under MSRP at this stage in the cycle.
Don't overpay.
yeah, depends on a lot of things. I just picked a random card at memory express in Canada. thr cheapest 6700 XT I saw in stock was at $760, while the MSRP should be around $600 or so depending on the day.
the 6600 series is much closer to MSRP, so it depends on the card, the stock, etc.
EI never thought about it before but the 5700 xt I got a couple of years ago for like $430 appears to now be worth twice that. I had assumed the spike was just for current gen. I guess that all just trickled down as people bought whatever was more affordable?
Edit: appears to be because I don’t know if they’re actually selling at that price but they are listed
back in the depths of the supply unavailability, older gen cards were indeed going for 2-3x their original MSRP just because you couldn't get the current gen
Oh God I just realized that my post sounds like I was bragging. I just meant that if you have a store like that nearby it might be worth checking if you can get one that way.
Nah, you're good, I didn't read it that way at all
I wish I had a Microcenter anywhere near me though. I think I'd wander around it regularly.
back in the depths of the supply unavailability, older gen cards were indeed going for 2-3x their original MSRP just because you couldn't get the current gen
Also because the 5700XT was disproportionately good at mining
I'm debating a drive to my Microcenter today. I have to see if I need an air cooler for my old build first. I think it's time to put the ancient H50 in the computer to rest.
Probably a dumb question but for g-sync monitors do you need to connect the included usb cable to your pc as well for g-sync to work? Or is the usb cable just for the usb hub on the monitor?
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minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
Nope, that’s just for the monitor’s built in USB hub.
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My old machine running TrueNAS has worked fine, but I have to go through 17 steps to add storage. I'm debating saying 'fuck it' and putting a Win10 install back on and just adding the attached storage to the network.
I can use TeamViewer or similar to remote in if I need to manage it (or just connect KBAM when I need to do something to it)
Not, but I tried to add a drive that's already installed, and I have to watch 3 YT vids and remember user account pw's in TrueNAS to do it
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Jesus christ that Aurora teardown from GN is infuriating. Especially the warranty bit.
Dells new grift is they charge you monthly for an extended warranty, but only bill you 1 month later. So it doesn't show on your computer receipt when you purchase it.
The actual build is infuriating ($5000 PC with an AIO on the CPU that still thermal throttles?), but man is that some hinky shit.
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Jesus christ that Aurora teardown from GN is infuriating. Especially the warranty bit.
Dells new grift is they charge you monthly for an extended warranty, but only bill you 1 month later. So it doesn't show on your computer receipt when you purchase it.
The actual build is infuriating ($5000 PC with an AIO on the CPU that still thermal throttles?), but man is that some hinky shit.
What the crap
Man, their extended warranty used to be worthwhile
granted, that was uh (counts on fingers) like 30 years ago
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
Jesus christ that Aurora teardown from GN is infuriating. Especially the warranty bit.
Dells new grift is they charge you monthly for an extended warranty, but only bill you 1 month later. So it doesn't show on your computer receipt when you purchase it.
The actual build is infuriating ($5000 PC with an AIO on the CPU that still thermal throttles?), but man is that some hinky shit.
What the crap
Man, their extended warranty used to be worthwhile
granted, that was uh (counts on fingers) like 30 years ago
Yeah, it's an absolute scam. You still have a full warranty on the purchase, you're literally paying for nothing for 3 years.
IDK about the US, but on UK Amazon, which is a handy aggregator for this kind of exercise, the prices of video cards are literally falling by the day. I can see an XFX Merc 319 Black 6800XT in stock at £835 delivered right now, whereas the floor for 6800XTs was £1000 only a few weeks ago, and £900+ last weekend. The sellers are undercutting each other with £10-20-30 decrements every day or two. I strongly suspect that they're clearing stock while they can still get above-MSRP prices for it.
I haven't paid attention to the Nvidia cards, but I expect the situation there is similar. The resellers know that Ada is due soon - even sooner than RDNA3 - and mining demand has melted. Normally we'd be seeing prices 10-30% under MSRP at this stage in the cycle.
Don't overpay.
Update: That card is £813 now, while I can see a Sapphire Pulse 6800XT for £831
They running, boys. They running.
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Yeah, the 6800XT I bought is down to $1399au now from my buy price of $1999au.
Definitely making me more comfortable with PC gaming again.
I mean don't get me wrong, £820 is still a shitty price for what was supposed to be a $650 card two years ago, and I aint buying it at that price. We still have a way to go before some kind of normality has returned. But it looks like we're getting there now.
Techpowerup tells me that the 6800XT is ~350% of my ol' 1060GTX, and £820 is near as dambit 3.5x what I paid for it. So it least I'm now in the zone of "I will get slightly more frames per £ than I could in 2017" Yay for a 2.7% price-performance increase!
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Oh yeah it's got a long way to go, but when I built this PC I had the idea of maintaining a gaming PC (one of the reasons I built it myself - to learn how so I can work on it) video card prices were kind of making me wary of going through with the project.
That they're dropping as fast as they are is making me feel better about it.
Yeah, the 6800XT I bought is down to $1399au now from my buy price of $1999au.
Definitely making me more comfortable with PC gaming again.
Super happy I managed to jump on a card when I did. Caught a first or second restock of a 3080 model that didn't get preordered to oblivion for 1450 ausbux. Felt at the time I was overpaying by about 100 or so, but given how prices went after I think it was well worth that 100 compared to waiting over a year to get one cheaper.
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Yeah, the 6800XT I bought is down to $1399au now from my buy price of $1999au.
Definitely making me more comfortable with PC gaming again.
Super happy I managed to jump on a card when I did. Caught a first or second restock of a 3080 model that didn't get preordered to oblivion for 1450 ausbux. Felt at the time I was overpaying by about 100 or so, but given how prices went after I think it was well worth that 100 compared to waiting over a year to get one cheaper.
I bought my card off of craigslist (I know) back in November of 2020, paying roughly 900 bucks for a 6800xt. Super duper happy I did that, after spending weeks wasting time and energy on stock discords, and seeing what became of the pricing. It was legitimately new in box, founder edition, etc.
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Yeah I paid about $800 for mine thanks to Best Buy in Jan 2021 and despite it not being the card I wanted to buy and had the money to buy, I had reasoned that maybe when prices stabilized I could flip it for the one I wanted.
I really wanted a 3080, but got super lucky and snagged a 3070 last February during a Best Buy drop.
Spent a little while trying to get a 3080 figuring if I got it at MSRP flipping my 3070 would more than pay for it, but eventually just decided it wasn't worth the hassle.
I did get a $600 6700XT for my wife's computer off the shelf at MicroCenter last spring. It was kinda a waste since her computer isn't used for gaming, but it was kinda an impulse buy and I figured if she was pissed I'd just sell it NIB and probably still make a few bucks - she was fine with it though.
I've passed on some Newegg shuffles and when I came up in the 3080 TI queues. I just couldn't bring myself to pay $1500 for one.
I got a 3080 TUF on Amazon in November 2020 for $750 through one of the Discord notification channels. That was first time after at least 50 tries across months of getting cards into my card and it selling out before I could complete the order. I was trying to get either the TUF or the Nvidia card so I was pretty happy I got one of my two top choices.
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My 3070 has been trucking along nicely. I feel exceedingly lucky I managed to score one.
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My current PC build was previously listed in the post linked here although the motherboard is now a generation newer since the original one died. I'm moving to an area within driving distance of a Microcenter over the summer and with GPU prices coming down I am going to eventually do a new build. I'll do my homework before coming back here for specific feedback, but what I wanted to ask now in preparation is if there is new generational tech on the horizon that I should consider holding out for? For example, the GTX 40XX cards are coming, but with the rumored power requirements I'll likely forgo those and use a nice 3080. Is there anything else on the horizon?
I accidentally spoiled water into my UPS yesterday and didn't notice until it started beeping and then my PC suddenly shut off.
I've taken the UPS out of the loop and I'm trying to restart my PC. It turns on and I can get to the BIOS and it can see my other 2 HDDs but my NVME/boot drive isn't showing up. Admittedly getting the NVME drive to work in the first place was finicky because it's an older i5-4690K and an ASUS Z97 mobo but I'm not having any luck. I tried booting from a Windows USB and it's not showing the drive for installation either. I also tried an older NVME drive but I'm not sure if that one is any good either since it's just been in my drawer for a couple of years.
I'm thinking the M2 slot got borked and my coworker is going to lend me an M2 to USB adapter on Monday to see if the drive still works. Is there anything else I can do/check?
My PC is up and running with no issues since the water incident but the battery backed up side of the UPS does not appear to be working at all so I think my UPS is toast. At this point it's just a very heavy power bar that may or may not be a fire hazard so it's off to the scrap heap with it. Thanks for your help.
My current PC build was previously listed in the post linked here although the motherboard is now a generation newer since the original one died. I'm moving to an area within driving distance of a Microcenter over the summer and with GPU prices coming down I am going to eventually do a new build. I'll do my homework before coming back here for specific feedback, but what I wanted to ask now in preparation is if there is new generational tech on the horizon that I should consider holding out for? For example, the GTX 40XX cards are coming, but with the rumored power requirements I'll likely forgo those and use a nice 3080. Is there anything else on the horizon?
beyond the RTX 4xxx series coming this fall, we are also expecting a completely new AMD CPU platform hitting in the fall as well. The Ryzen 7000 series will come on a new socket and chipset, and might be DDR5 only. Has the potential to be the biggest AMD CPU update since the launch of Ryzen 1xxx on AM4 5 years ago.
So yeah, there's stuff on the horizon, and potentially pretty big stuff from AMD.
However, the same general advice always applies. If you need a machine now-ish, buy something on the current best tech. When AMD's stuff hits in the fall we'll be 6 months from new Intel stuff, so there's always something new/better on the horizon.
My current PC build was previously listed in the post linked here although the motherboard is now a generation newer since the original one died. I'm moving to an area within driving distance of a Microcenter over the summer and with GPU prices coming down I am going to eventually do a new build. I'll do my homework before coming back here for specific feedback, but what I wanted to ask now in preparation is if there is new generational tech on the horizon that I should consider holding out for? For example, the GTX 40XX cards are coming, but with the rumored power requirements I'll likely forgo those and use a nice 3080. Is there anything else on the horizon?
beyond the RTX 4xxx series coming this fall, we are also expecting a completely new AMD CPU platform hitting in the fall as well. The Ryzen 7000 series will come on a new socket and chipset, and might be DDR5 only. Has the potential to be the biggest AMD CPU update since the launch of Ryzen 1xxx on AM4 5 years ago.
So yeah, there's stuff on the horizon, and potentially pretty big stuff from AMD.
However, the same general advice always applies. If you need a machine now-ish, buy something on the current best tech. When AMD's stuff hits in the fall we'll be 6 months from new Intel stuff, so there's always something new/better on the horizon.
And if it's anything like the last 3 years of hardware, it'll be 6 months after launch before you can actually get your hands on it at best.
How hot should your GPU run? According to Speedfan my 3060 is sitting at 67C when I'm not running anything that requires it.
I wouldn’t say that hot but a lot of cards nowadays will cut the fans when the load is minimal. The more important question is what are your load temps?
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How hot should your GPU run? According to Speedfan my 3060 is sitting at 67C when I'm not running anything that requires it.
I wouldn’t say that hot but a lot of cards nowadays will cut the fans when the load is minimal. The more important question is what are your load temps?
I'll load Cyberpunk and see. It dropped back down to 46. Something must have causes it to burn for a bit.
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minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
With a lot of modern GPUs the idle temp will often be higher than the light load temp, because it’ll cut the fans off all together when it’s idle. Then at a light load it’ll put them back on, dropping the temp back down a lot.
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How hot should your GPU run? According to Speedfan my 3060 is sitting at 67C when I'm not running anything that requires it.
I wouldn’t say that hot but a lot of cards nowadays will cut the fans when the load is minimal. The more important question is what are your load temps?
I'll load Cyberpunk and see. It dropped back down to 46. Something must have causes it to burn for a bit.
Default GPU fan settings are usually "as long as it's not throttling, we're good" with an eye towards noise more than cooling performance. You can always adjust it up.
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BaidolI will hold him offEscape while you canRegistered Userregular
My current PC build was previously listed in the post linked here although the motherboard is now a generation newer since the original one died. I'm moving to an area within driving distance of a Microcenter over the summer and with GPU prices coming down I am going to eventually do a new build. I'll do my homework before coming back here for specific feedback, but what I wanted to ask now in preparation is if there is new generational tech on the horizon that I should consider holding out for? For example, the GTX 40XX cards are coming, but with the rumored power requirements I'll likely forgo those and use a nice 3080. Is there anything else on the horizon?
beyond the RTX 4xxx series coming this fall, we are also expecting a completely new AMD CPU platform hitting in the fall as well. The Ryzen 7000 series will come on a new socket and chipset, and might be DDR5 only. Has the potential to be the biggest AMD CPU update since the launch of Ryzen 1xxx on AM4 5 years ago.
So yeah, there's stuff on the horizon, and potentially pretty big stuff from AMD.
However, the same general advice always applies. If you need a machine now-ish, buy something on the current best tech. When AMD's stuff hits in the fall we'll be 6 months from new Intel stuff, so there's always something new/better on the horizon.
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I got mine at Microcenter. They had like 30 of them on the shelf. In store only.
I haven't paid attention to the Nvidia cards, but I expect the situation there is similar. The resellers know that Ada is due soon - even sooner than RDNA3 - and mining demand has melted. Normally we'd be seeing prices 10-30% under MSRP at this stage in the cycle.
Don't overpay.
Nah, you're good, I didn't read it that way at all
I wish I had a Microcenter anywhere near me though. I think I'd wander around it regularly.
yeah, depends on a lot of things. I just picked a random card at memory express in Canada. thr cheapest 6700 XT I saw in stock was at $760, while the MSRP should be around $600 or so depending on the day.
the 6600 series is much closer to MSRP, so it depends on the card, the stock, etc.
Edit: appears to be because I don’t know if they’re actually selling at that price but they are listed
My wife calls it Nerdvana and she isn't wrong lol
Also because the 5700XT was disproportionately good at mining
I can use TeamViewer or similar to remote in if I need to manage it (or just connect KBAM when I need to do something to it)
Dells new grift is they charge you monthly for an extended warranty, but only bill you 1 month later. So it doesn't show on your computer receipt when you purchase it.
The actual build is infuriating ($5000 PC with an AIO on the CPU that still thermal throttles?), but man is that some hinky shit.
What the crap
Man, their extended warranty used to be worthwhile
granted, that was uh (counts on fingers) like 30 years ago
Yeah, it's an absolute scam. You still have a full warranty on the purchase, you're literally paying for nothing for 3 years.
Update: That card is £813 now, while I can see a Sapphire Pulse 6800XT for £831
They running, boys. They running.
Definitely making me more comfortable with PC gaming again.
Techpowerup tells me that the 6800XT is ~350% of my ol' 1060GTX, and £820 is near as dambit 3.5x what I paid for it. So it least I'm now in the zone of "I will get slightly more frames per £ than I could in 2017" Yay for a 2.7% price-performance increase!
That they're dropping as fast as they are is making me feel better about it.
Super happy I managed to jump on a card when I did. Caught a first or second restock of a 3080 model that didn't get preordered to oblivion for 1450 ausbux. Felt at the time I was overpaying by about 100 or so, but given how prices went after I think it was well worth that 100 compared to waiting over a year to get one cheaper.
I bought my card off of craigslist (I know) back in November of 2020, paying roughly 900 bucks for a 6800xt. Super duper happy I did that, after spending weeks wasting time and energy on stock discords, and seeing what became of the pricing. It was legitimately new in box, founder edition, etc.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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Spent a little while trying to get a 3080 figuring if I got it at MSRP flipping my 3070 would more than pay for it, but eventually just decided it wasn't worth the hassle.
I did get a $600 6700XT for my wife's computer off the shelf at MicroCenter last spring. It was kinda a waste since her computer isn't used for gaming, but it was kinda an impulse buy and I figured if she was pissed I'd just sell it NIB and probably still make a few bucks - she was fine with it though.
I've passed on some Newegg shuffles and when I came up in the 3080 TI queues. I just couldn't bring myself to pay $1500 for one.
My PC is up and running with no issues since the water incident but the battery backed up side of the UPS does not appear to be working at all so I think my UPS is toast. At this point it's just a very heavy power bar that may or may not be a fire hazard so it's off to the scrap heap with it. Thanks for your help.
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beyond the RTX 4xxx series coming this fall, we are also expecting a completely new AMD CPU platform hitting in the fall as well. The Ryzen 7000 series will come on a new socket and chipset, and might be DDR5 only. Has the potential to be the biggest AMD CPU update since the launch of Ryzen 1xxx on AM4 5 years ago.
So yeah, there's stuff on the horizon, and potentially pretty big stuff from AMD.
However, the same general advice always applies. If you need a machine now-ish, buy something on the current best tech. When AMD's stuff hits in the fall we'll be 6 months from new Intel stuff, so there's always something new/better on the horizon.
And if it's anything like the last 3 years of hardware, it'll be 6 months after launch before you can actually get your hands on it at best.
I wouldn’t say that hot but a lot of cards nowadays will cut the fans when the load is minimal. The more important question is what are your load temps?
I'll load Cyberpunk and see. It dropped back down to 46. Something must have causes it to burn for a bit.
I wouldn’t worry about it then. It sounds like your card is just cutting the fans at low loads to cut down on noise.
Default GPU fan settings are usually "as long as it's not throttling, we're good" with an eye towards noise more than cooling performance. You can always adjust it up.
Thank you!