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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    I would welcome another wave of nostalgia bombs around sierra adventure games with appropriate low bit graphics.

    Playing Ultima 3 and KQ3 on the old tandy was some of my first gaming experiences.

    I went through a Sierra kick a while back, but I can honestly say the only sierra game I tried I felt held up as a must play classic was Quest for Glory 4. (Caveat - I didn’t play Gabriel Knight).

    I was trying to play them guideless and there was some really obnoxious and annoying shit back then. Like kings quest games in general, but also things like space quest 4 expecting you to literally screenshot every time code you found (like an old school NES password except not in roman characters) or the game becomes unfinishable. Or the occasional sequences in games where there is a big giant area of essentially identical screens that may occasionally have instant death traps but have like one really important thing in the middle you are supposed to wander into.

    But kings quest 1-6 get an especial shout out for bullshit because most of the other sierra games I played through only had one or two really bullshit mechanics I could figure out and work around (like space quest 4 was fine once you figured out to ss the codes) but Kings quest seemed to cram in as many as possible.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    King's Quest 6 had one puzzle where you needed the original game manual to decode.

    Trying to Google it, a lot of sites didn't post it bc it was specifically copyrighted material iirc (still found it but ugh).

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    The Commodore 64 version of Demon Attack looks pretty good.
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/demon-attack/screenshots

    I had no idea it got a port to the C64, although I suppose everything got a port to it, so it shouldn't surprise me. That looks really good, I may have to find a way to play it.

    Funny, we actually have a 2600 arriving today and Demon Attack is one of the games in the bundle. It worked out well, my son's school is remote today due to covid cases, and after some delays in shipping the Atari will arrive while he's home.

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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    King's Quest 6 had one puzzle where you needed the original game manual to decode.

    Trying to Google it, a lot of sites didn't post it bc it was specifically copyrighted material iirc (still found it but ugh).

    Kings quest 6 was beautiful and well written and a completely player hostile game.

    I ended up getting pissed at it because I dead ended twice for really dumb reasons (on the part of the game) and had to load savegames from long before so I never finished it.

    Thinking back on it Conquest of the Longbow was really good, but not as good as QFG4.

    I have heard good things about Dagger of Amon Ra and Gabriel Knight 1 and really need to get around to playing them.

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  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    Conquests of the Longbow is the only Sierra game I've actually finished. I don't remember too much bullshit in it. There's a few puzzles that reference the manual, but they're pretty easy to save scum.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Aye I never finished 6.

    I also bought their newest King's Quest but never finished. Was kinda boring. ^^

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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Reznik wrote: »
    Conquests of the Longbow is the only Sierra game I've actually finished. I don't remember too much bullshit in it. There's a few puzzles that reference the manual, but they're pretty easy to save scum.

    IIRC all the situations where you could fuck up and get into a dead man walking situation were at least confined to the specific day it occurred in, so as long as you saved at the beginning of every day you’d never get knocked back too far.

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  • BetsuniBetsuni UM-R60L Talisker IVRegistered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    The Commodore 64 version of Demon Attack looks pretty good.
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/demon-attack/screenshots

    I had no idea it got a port to the C64, although I suppose everything got a port to it, so it shouldn't surprise me. That looks really good, I may have to find a way to play it.

    Funny, we actually have a 2600 arriving today and Demon Attack is one of the games in the bundle. It worked out well, my son's school is remote today due to covid cases, and after some delays in shipping the Atari will arrive while he's home.

    I had to look up what Demon Attack was since you said 2600 and instantly remembered this game when I saw the box for it. The box art sold the game.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Look what arrived today!

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  • BetsuniBetsuni UM-R60L Talisker IVRegistered User regular
    I didn't realize that Atari made a 2600 with that body so had to look it up. Then I found out that my two 2600s are the older models as well since they only have 4 switches on the top.

    That Empire Strikes Back is a really cool game and we played it on a black and white TV for years. The first time we saw it in color blew our minds away.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    I, too, recently got my hands on a pocket.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Never seen that color, nice!

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Never seen that color, nice!

    It was a Japan exclusive. Not especially rare, but not seen in North America or Europe.

    Part of revamping my work from home setup is involving updating my backdrop, I want to add more gaming stuff to it, and I'm in a retro gaming kick so I'm planning on picking up every game boy model to display, and possibly a game gear if I can find one with replaced capacitors for a relatively good price. I'm now only missing the origingal DMG and the Gameboy colour, which is ironic because I had both of those models when I was younger and I regret getting rid of them.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    It is now my mission to find one of those whenever I'm allowed to enter Japan again

    I've always wanted the ice blue one as well

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    It is now my mission to find one of those whenever I'm allowed to enter Japan again

    I've always wanted the ice blue one as well

    Ebay is your friend. That's where i got mine. It is in really good condition, looks like it has barely been played, the sticker on the back is pretty much brand new. cost about $80 USD to get it from Japan.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Sierra finally gave up on being player-hostile with King's Quest 7 and Torin's Passage. And then they stopped entirely.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Also, for anyone who does have/buy older consoles and devices, one thing I cannot recommend enough is to take them apart and give them a clean. Especially with handhelds. They'll often get gunk and other random bits in them, and the PCB's can get some surface corrosion that needs to be dealt with. isopropyl alcohol and q-tips work wonders.

    I just took apart that game boy pocket and there was some corrosion on the motherboard that I took care of, good as new. I also washed the button membranes, as they were a little cruddy. I bought a GBA SP AGS-101 model over the summer and the power button was super finnicky on it, to the point it would reset if I touched it. took it apart, put a drop of the alcohol in the switch mechanism, toggled the switch a few times, and now the switch works reliably. And I had a similar thing with my original GBA model, the start and select buttons barely worked. Took it apart, cleaned the contacts on the motherboard, good as new.

    None of this is particularly hard to do, especially for the game boy pocket and GBA. Just need a screwdriver for tri-wing screws. the DMG (original game boy), and GBA SP are a bit more complicated because they have some tighter ribbon cables to deal with, but not super hard. Well worth the bit of effort. I had all 3 devices working good as new in less than an hour tonight.

    Sadly the Game Boy Micro and all the DS models are much more finnicky to take apart and deal with. I don't have any DS's with issues yet, thankfully.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    jothki wrote: »
    Sierra finally gave up on being player-hostile with King's Quest 7 and Torin's Passage. And then they stopped entirely.

    I actually got Torin's Passage on my computer desk right now. I think ScummVM can run it.

    Sometimes, I like to run games they way they originally were. Still, ScummVM can be smoother.

    I guess all you have to do is copy the files off the CD. You don't even have to install for ScummVM to use them.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Hot Atari take.
    Actually, E.T. is not that bad when you know what to do. The same goes for Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    E.T. is in the GameFaqs top ten.
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/atari2600

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    Retro experts! I have a New Nintendo 3DS (not XL). What's the best choice for a replacement battery?

  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    The Pocket & friends say hi.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    I've read this post about 10 times now in the same way someone might re-watch a really good youtube video or trailer or something.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    Hot Atari take.
    Actually, E.T. is not that bad when you know what to do. The same goes for Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    E.T. is in the GameFaqs top ten.
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/atari2600

    I completely agree. I tried to walk him through beating ET yesterday and he was just dumbfounded on how weird the whole thing is, but it's totally beatable. Not many 2600 games have a way to actually beat the game, I always liked that about ET.

    I've never beat Raiders, I'll have to find a walkthrough and try that sometime.

  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    I've heard ET is pretty good fundamentally, just has some bugs that could use ironing out or a few tweaks, and some modders have done just that.

    Not had a. Chance to try myself, though.

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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Krathoon wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Sierra finally gave up on being player-hostile with King's Quest 7 and Torin's Passage. And then they stopped entirely.

    I actually got Torin's Passage on my computer desk right now. I think ScummVM can run it.

    Sometimes, I like to run games they way they originally were. Still, ScummVM can be smoother.

    I guess all you have to do is copy the files off the CD. You don't even have to install for ScummVM to use them.

    Yeah thats generally how scummvm works.

    For GOG or steam stuff, I generally download and install it, copy over the files, and immediately delete the install.

    There is a section on the website with the specific files you need for a game, often its just 2 or 3 data files and you can delete everything else.

    Jealous Deva on
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    BTW if all goes well multiple Waterfield Analogue Pocket cases will be launched this month. With the first on the 18th delays-permitting and the rest near the end of the month.

    For the 2 people in here likely to have one at this point.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    I think ScummVM improves Maniac Mansion where it does not use the PC speaker to play the music. It routes it through the sound card.
    I played it the original way and that was painful to listen to.

    There is also that fan version that is way fancier, but I like the original. The NES version is also good, but they censored it. Part of the charm was that the game was kind of adult themed.

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Here is Dragonfire. One of the great Atari games.
    https://youtu.be/Bo_Uc5JgyAU

    Also, Vanguard.
    https://youtu.be/ewQDKtc1i-4

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »

    If that's what $40 got you back in the day, no wonder the video game industry crashed in the 80s.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Loved Dragonfire. It was especially fun running around getting treasure with the little Power stick controllers instead of the stock ones. I don't remember ever paying a ton for an Atari game, I guess we must have waited for sales and just did a ton of trading with friends and family to try different games. My cousins had MASH and Chopper Command I was always jealous of those.

    The Power Sticks were tiny but way more responsive...
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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Yeah. I had some pretty good Atari games. Then, my Mom sold it all in a yard sale.
    There is this Atari collection on the Switch that has 2600, Arcade, and 5200 games.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KZZGNFX/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_4MVH80MNFAXFFT4CSE3G

    Still some games were not released in collections. Spiderman has not been released in one.
    Modern Spiderman games blow the Atari one out of the water.

    What is great about the collections is there are manuals and other extras.
    This shows you how fancy they did the arcade games. It has some cabinet-like artwork.
    https://youtu.be/JwV1A5ce8Jg

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Kings Quest, and sierra games were a product of early gaming yeah. The whole that is just how they padded the game back then thing. KQ6 I never thought of any of the puzzels even in the same league as rumplestiltslin backwards with a backwards alphabet though. All the puzzels were great imho actually. I cant think of one that was overtly bad. The whole decoding/copy protect puzzle wasnt even bad for the era. Back when manuals were fun and you read them. And like the game shown as the tech demo you had to have the manual to follow the correct procedure and use the correct coding heh. PQ is actually in the reasoning on why my brother became a cop heh. I remember Ultima 3, and the whole series, having some doozy examples of puzzles too.

    But as I was trying to allude if we were to have a nostaliga bomb of retro adventure games I would want them to be more like KQ6. We had some good ones made in the late 2ks but hey id buy new games if someone crafted them right in a second.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    This is why the retro digital market is probably a good thing.
    https://youtu.be/T_WIrjL7Scw

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    Was there a VGA King's Quest 1?
    There have been some fan remakes.
    I tend to prefer the games made through Sierra.

  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Yeah there was an official vga kq1 redo. That said the remakes of the first 3 that company did were very well done.

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  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Kings Quest, and sierra games were a product of early gaming yeah. The whole that is just how they padded the game back then thing. KQ6 I never thought of any of the puzzels even in the same league as rumplestiltslin backwards with a backwards alphabet though. All the puzzels were great imho actually. I cant think of one that was overtly bad. The whole decoding/copy protect puzzle wasnt even bad for the era. Back when manuals were fun and you read them. And like the game shown as the tech demo you had to have the manual to follow the correct procedure and use the correct coding heh. PQ is actually in the reasoning on why my brother became a cop heh. I remember Ultima 3, and the whole series, having some doozy examples of puzzles too.

    But as I was trying to allude if we were to have a nostaliga bomb of retro adventure games I would want them to be more like KQ6. We had some good ones made in the late 2ks but hey id buy new games if someone crafted them right in a second.

    Some from the last 10 years in no particular order:

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/375440/HeroU_Rogue_to_Redemption/

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/270610/Mages_Initiation_Reign_of_the_Elements/

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/283880/Heroines_Quest_The_Herald_of_Ragnarok/

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/603870/A_Tale_of_Two_Kingdoms/

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/264560/Quest_for_Infamy/

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/425600/The_Order_of_the_Thorne__The_Kings_Challenge/

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