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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    The the D&D remasters are all down to $9.99, it's an all time low. I never played them on PC, how are they and are they decent/playable comfortably handheld?

    Whether they're comfortable on handheld depends on how comfortable you are with the Switch in handheld mode. The games themselves are fine, if you liked them before in the arcade, it's them!

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    The the D&D remasters are all down to $9.99, it's an all time low. I never played them on PC, how are they and are they decent/playable comfortably handheld?

    Whether they're comfortable on handheld depends on how comfortable you are with the Switch in handheld mode. The games themselves are fine, if you liked them before in the arcade, it's them!

    Sorry, I think we're taking different games. I mean the Dungeons and Dragons remakes (Baldurs Gate and company). Mostly worried about font size and controls in making the transition to console.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Might be talking about Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, I see those are $10.

    For $10 that is a lot of content in one package, it's BG1 + Siege of Dragonspear (modern connective game) + BG2 + Black Pits (modern arena challenge) + Black Pits 2 (ditto).

    The Good: they play fine and run fine. The direct joystick movement instead of click-where-you-want-to-go works well. The games are faithfully ported with all the content, and as good as they ever were. I found it engaging and fun. You can turn up the font size to make things more readable if necessary. And like I said it's a low price for 100+ hours of classic RPG character building and questing.



    The Bad: There are bugs and Beamdog basically dumped the games on the Switch to die with no patch in sight. They are already bad about this on PC and other platforms, just too small of a company to keep up properly? But I assume especially on the Switch where it costs money to issue a patch, it will never happen.

    The bugs are much worse in the other half of the IE games (Icewind Dale + Planescape Torment) because I think IWD was hacked into running on the Baldur's Gate engine against its will. I got through IWD but there were a lot of critical bugs there that definitely affected the game, for example you couldn't cast any spells along the lines of Minor Sequencer/Contingency where you're meant to set up a series of automated spells that are triggered by the one casting. The game would just freeze if you tried using them.

    I never got up to the level to earn these spells in the BG games so I don't know if they're also broken in that release. I would hope things are better in BG since that was the lead engine. Bugs I experienced in BG were more minor, such as a few rare areas with an echoey audio issue. The direct joystick movement wasn't perfectly tested, if you start casting a spell and then move the joystick, your character stops what they're doing to walk and you lose the spell you're casting. So I played all the combat in cursor mode (which was really not that big a deal). I got all the way through BG1 and more or less 100%'d it without any unrecoverable problems. I got partway through Siege of Dragonspear and never quite made it to BG2, so I don't know if bugs start to compound and make it unfinishable or anything like that.

    Judging by the lack of any conversation online I may be the only person who put a significant amount of time into the Switch releases of these games. >_>

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    The the D&D remasters are all down to $9.99, it's an all time low. I never played them on PC, how are they and are they decent/playable comfortably handheld?

    Whether they're comfortable on handheld depends on how comfortable you are with the Switch in handheld mode. The games themselves are fine, if you liked them before in the arcade, it's them!

    Sorry, I think we're taking different games. I mean the Dungeons and Dragons remakes (Baldurs Gate and company). Mostly worried about font size and controls in making the transition to console.

    :redface:

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  • rahkeesh2000rahkeesh2000 Registered User regular
    My eyes suck but that shit is definitely too small for me in handheld. I also feel like combat is going to hedge more towards lower the difficulty and sit back and watch the AI hack it out, because the kind of delicate micromanaging you can do in combat with a mouse gets tedious real fast on controller.

  • PailryderPailryder Registered User regular
    looks like they are making updates to the n64 engine still (good)

  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    I'm still waiting for them to put up more N64 controllers here.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    My eyes suck but that shit is definitely too small for me in handheld. I also feel like combat is going to hedge more towards lower the difficulty and sit back and watch the AI hack it out, because the kind of delicate micromanaging you can do in combat with a mouse gets tedious real fast on controller.

    I only played on a medium/small font size, it can go a lot larger to the point where in some contexts it overlaps UI elements.

    And I did all the micromanaging on controller. Some fights you could just autobattle through, but yeah, I would cast all the pre-buffs and save the game, charge in, reload if it went too poorly because I'm a weirdo like that (and also don't want to have to re-cast the buffs).

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    I have a primary Switch. My wife has her own Switch as well. I own Ys VIII. We installed it on her Switch from my account. And it says she's not allowed to play it. Every other game we've installed from my account on her Switch has worked fine. Is this some NIS shittiness?

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  • Shenl742Shenl742 Registered User regular
    The Ys games are made by Falcom, not Atlus

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  • ChiselphaneChiselphane Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I have a primary Switch. My wife has her own Switch as well. I own Ys VIII. We installed it on her Switch from my account. And it says she's not allowed to play it. Every other game we've installed from my account on her Switch has worked fine. Is this some Atlus shittiness?

    What's the specific message she's getting?

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Shenl742 wrote: »
    The Ys games are made by Falcom, not Atlus

    Oops, yeah, NIS. My bad on that one. :/
    What's the specific message she's getting?

    "This user cannot play this software." It loads on my profile, but then when it asks which user wants to play, only my profile is able to be chosen. Other games on her system that I've bought work on any profile, but this one seems broken. That's why I wondered if it was maybe a publisher restriction or something.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    What's the specific message she's getting?

    "This user cannot play this software." It loads on my profile, but then when it asks which user wants to play, only my profile is able to be chosen. Other games on her system that I've bought work on any profile, but this one seems broken. That's why I wondered if it was maybe a publisher restriction or something.

    Nintendo says this about that error: https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/41224/~/error-message:-“this-user-cannot-play-this-software”
    • Purchases on the Nintendo Switch eShop are tied to the Nintendo Account that made the purchase.
    • You can register one primary console per Nintendo Account.
    • Once you've registered a primary console, your digital purchases can be played by anyone that uses the primary console.
    • Once you've purchased a digital game, you can use your Nintendo Account to access the game on any Nintendo Switch console (primary or non-primary).
    • When using a non-primary console, you are the only player that can access digital games that you've purchased. Other players will not be able to access your digital games on a non-primary console.

    Note sure why some games purchased by your primary console account would work for another account.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    I thought that as long as your account was on the system, it would work. I had done that with other games and it did the trick (my kid can play Good Job! on her system, the wife played Hades on hers). No idea.

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  • akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    I’m having this same problem with SuperMarioMaker 2. Maybe it’s only first party titles?

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  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    Got animal crossing as a late birthday gift , love this series so comfy

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    urahonky wrote: »
    Actually I don't really have the energy to get dogpiled on today. I know my opinion is unpopular so I'll just keep it to myself. Sorry for bringing it up!

    I'm with you. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to diminish everyone's complaints but there does seem to be a sort of "complaint olympics" going on with the internet in general. Things are blown way out of proportion and minor issues become the topic of multiple hour long videos about how Nintendo killed your childhood. All in all I think Nintendo is doing better than they've ever been and quite frankly they have the best ecosystem of all 4 big players even with the obvious problems. Nintendo could have gone full Actiblizzard or MSoft (or Valve lets be honest Valve arent the good guys anymore) but instead they seem to be sticking to Iwata's vision (which is tied into Yamauchi's vision) pretty closely. And I would be happy to prepare a TED talk for you guys if you would like to discuss this further.


    Edit: added shot at gaben. You broke my heart, Gabe, you broke my heart.

    Edit 2: but yeah I'm not afraid to get dogpiled. I'll take you all on! *giggles*

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Nintendo should be able to do things like make sure the original atmosphere of one of their most important games is preserved by making sure the fog works as originally intended, which apparently is something they still haven’t done.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Actually I don't really have the energy to get dogpiled on today. I know my opinion is unpopular so I'll just keep it to myself. Sorry for bringing it up!

    I'm with you. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to diminish everyone's complaints but there does seem to be a sort of "complaint olympics" going on with the internet in general. Things are blown way out of proportion and minor issues become the topic of multiple hour long videos about how Nintendo killed your childhood. All in all I think Nintendo is doing better than they've ever been and quite frankly they have the best ecosystem of all 4 big players even with the obvious problems. Nintendo could have gone full Actiblizzard or MSoft (or Valve lets be honest Valve arent the good guys anymore) but instead they seem to be sticking to Iwata's vision (which is tied into Yamauchi's vision) pretty closely. And I would be happy to prepare a TED talk for you guys if you would like to discuss this further.


    Edit: added shot at gaben. You broke my heart, Gabe, you broke my heart.

    Edit 2: but yeah I'm not afraid to get dogpiled. I'll take you all on! *giggles*

    yeah i'll have to disagree. I think charging a recurring fee for old games should result in well emulated titles with a lot of extra stuff for QoL.
    Putting the N64 games behind an extra price and giving us the worst emulation you can find (payed or free) is not a nice thing, and the double recurring price entitles people to expecting a quality service and complaining about the bad service they actually provided.

    And calling this shit "doing better than all others" is just wrong. They sold that halfassed Mario 3D collection and then took it off the store for no reason. They have the worst system for dealing with multiple consoles and accounts (as we can see in this thread).

    I like nintendo consoles and nintendo games. But I'm not gonna "stan" or "simp" for them or any other extremely rich megacorp. Nor am I gonna go all in on the "copium" like some people do. Even if there are silly internet people crying about "murdered childhoods", that has no bearing on other people and their really reasonable complaints and expectations. That is a terrible argument that can be misused to invalidate any and all honest criticism, and I do resent that.

    Sure, if you like paying for a bad service, great! Doesn't mean that i have to do it though!

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    But the service works great for me. I wouldn't call it a bad service myself. :)

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  • Raybies666Raybies666 Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    But the service works great for me. I wouldn't call it a bad service myself. :)

    Is it a dog pile if I'm getting ready for a flying elbow off the top rope?

    I'm kidding, I agree completely.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    But the service works great for me. I wouldn't call it a bad service myself. :)

    Is it a dog pile if I'm getting ready for a flying elbow off the top rope?

    I'm kidding, I agree completely.

    Only if it's the People's Elbow.

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  • Raybies666Raybies666 Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    But the service works great for me. I wouldn't call it a bad service myself. :)

    Is it a dog pile if I'm getting ready for a flying elbow off the top rope?

    I'm kidding, I agree completely.

    Only if it's the People's Elbow.

    Pretty sure the people's elbow was dropped from a standing position.

    NOW you're gonna get dog piled! Or maybe I am, I haven't watched wrestling in 20 years. Hang on, I'll just start up the wrestling game I got free with xbox gold a few years ago, see if the rock is in it and report back in a while!

    I probably won't do that.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    But the service works great for me. I wouldn't call it a bad service myself. :)

    Is it a dog pile if I'm getting ready for a flying elbow off the top rope?

    I'm kidding, I agree completely.

    Only if it's the People's Elbow.

    Pretty sure the people's elbow was dropped from a standing position.

    NOW you're gonna get dog piled! Or maybe I am, I haven't watched wrestling in 20 years. Hang on, I'll just start up the wrestling game I got free with xbox gold a few years ago, see if the rock is in it and report back in a while!

    I probably won't do that.

    It is from a standing position. But it's fun to say tbh.

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Actually I don't really have the energy to get dogpiled on today. I know my opinion is unpopular so I'll just keep it to myself. Sorry for bringing it up!

    I'm with you. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to diminish everyone's complaints but there does seem to be a sort of "complaint olympics" going on with the internet in general. Things are blown way out of proportion and minor issues become the topic of multiple hour long videos about how Nintendo killed your childhood. All in all I think Nintendo is doing better than they've ever been and quite frankly they have the best ecosystem of all 4 big players even with the obvious problems. Nintendo could have gone full Actiblizzard or MSoft (or Valve lets be honest Valve arent the good guys anymore) but instead they seem to be sticking to Iwata's vision (which is tied into Yamauchi's vision) pretty closely. And I would be happy to prepare a TED talk for you guys if you would like to discuss this further.


    Edit: added shot at gaben. You broke my heart, Gabe, you broke my heart.

    Edit 2: but yeah I'm not afraid to get dogpiled. I'll take you all on! *giggles*

    By "best ecosystem", what do you mean? They have the worst online connectivity, literally no chat, the worst friends system, the worst store sales, the worst non-gaming apps, and the least impressive online service package (aka, free games, bargains, etc). Strangely, they actually had better versions of these a generation or two ago. Like the Wii U plan for buying games was better and worked out to better deals, the Miiverse was better, etc. If all you meant was, "I prefer their unique games the best,", that's fair and is also not an ecosystem.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    urahonky wrote: »
    Actually I don't really have the energy to get dogpiled on today. I know my opinion is unpopular so I'll just keep it to myself. Sorry for bringing it up!

    I'm with you. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to diminish everyone's complaints but there does seem to be a sort of "complaint olympics" going on with the internet in general. Things are blown way out of proportion and minor issues become the topic of multiple hour long videos about how Nintendo killed your childhood. All in all I think Nintendo is doing better than they've ever been and quite frankly they have the best ecosystem of all 4 big players even with the obvious problems. Nintendo could have gone full Actiblizzard or MSoft (or Valve lets be honest Valve arent the good guys anymore) but instead they seem to be sticking to Iwata's vision (which is tied into Yamauchi's vision) pretty closely. And I would be happy to prepare a TED talk for you guys if you would like to discuss this further.


    Edit: added shot at gaben. You broke my heart, Gabe, you broke my heart.

    Edit 2: but yeah I'm not afraid to get dogpiled. I'll take you all on! *giggles*

    yeah i'll have to disagree. I think charging a recurring fee for old games should result in well emulated titles with a lot of extra stuff for QoL.
    Putting the N64 games behind an extra price and giving us the worst emulation you can find (payed or free) is not a nice thing, and the double recurring price entitles people to expecting a quality service and complaining about the bad service they actually provided.

    And calling this shit "doing better than all others" is just wrong. They sold that halfassed Mario 3D collection and then took it off the store for no reason. They have the worst system for dealing with multiple consoles and accounts (as we can see in this thread).

    I like nintendo consoles and nintendo games. But I'm not gonna "stan" or "simp" for them or any other extremely rich megacorp. Nor am I gonna go all in on the "copium" like some people do. Even if there are silly internet people crying about "murdered childhoods", that has no bearing on other people and their really reasonable complaints and expectations. That is a terrible argument that can be misused to invalidate any and all honest criticism, and I do resent that.

    Sure, if you like paying for a bad service, great! Doesn't mean that i have to do it though!

    except I didnt say that they were doing the emulation better than all others, I agree it's a problem I just don't blow it out of proportion like you are doing right now. What Nintendo offers as a whole when everything is tied together is industry leading even with the very real problems that you correctly pointed out. The level of anger involved is hilarious and over the top though, and doesn't line up with the service Nintendo provides (we are literally in the middle of arguably the greatest console generation in Nintendo's history, for example). Oh and I'm used to being called a shill for being correct in my assessment of businesses, so no big deal no harm no foul.

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  • Raybies666Raybies666 Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    But the service works great for me. I wouldn't call it a bad service myself. :)

    Is it a dog pile if I'm getting ready for a flying elbow off the top rope?

    I'm kidding, I agree completely.

    Only if it's the People's Elbow.

    Pretty sure the people's elbow was dropped from a standing position.

    NOW you're gonna get dog piled! Or maybe I am, I haven't watched wrestling in 20 years. Hang on, I'll just start up the wrestling game I got free with xbox gold a few years ago, see if the rock is in it and report back in a while!

    I probably won't do that.

    It is from a standing position. But it's fun to say tbh.

    And I didn't check. I watched a few episodes of Cobra Kai instead.

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Actually I don't really have the energy to get dogpiled on today. I know my opinion is unpopular so I'll just keep it to myself. Sorry for bringing it up!

    I'm with you. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to diminish everyone's complaints but there does seem to be a sort of "complaint olympics" going on with the internet in general. Things are blown way out of proportion and minor issues become the topic of multiple hour long videos about how Nintendo killed your childhood. All in all I think Nintendo is doing better than they've ever been and quite frankly they have the best ecosystem of all 4 big players even with the obvious problems. Nintendo could have gone full Actiblizzard or MSoft (or Valve lets be honest Valve arent the good guys anymore) but instead they seem to be sticking to Iwata's vision (which is tied into Yamauchi's vision) pretty closely. And I would be happy to prepare a TED talk for you guys if you would like to discuss this further.


    Edit: added shot at gaben. You broke my heart, Gabe, you broke my heart.

    Edit 2: but yeah I'm not afraid to get dogpiled. I'll take you all on! *giggles*

    By "best ecosystem", what do you mean? They have the worst online connectivity, literally no chat, the worst friends system, the worst store sales, the worst non-gaming apps, and the least impressive online service package (aka, free games, bargains, etc). Strangely, they actually had better versions of these a generation or two ago. Like the Wii U plan for buying games was better and worked out to better deals, the Miiverse was better, etc. If all you meant was, "I prefer their unique games the best,", that's fair and is also not an ecosystem.

    Thanks for saying this so I didn't have to. I love the Switch overall, but that comment had me thinking "TF they smokin'?"

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  • TimFijiTimFiji Beast Lord Halfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
    I mean I don't need any of that online shit so maybe just the best ecosystem for those of us that just like to play a great game on the switch without playing with others?

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    If all you meant was, "I prefer their unique games the best,", that's fair and is also not an ecosystem.

    I don't agree with that. The library available for a device is part of its ecosystem. I mean you'd probably call that a negative part of the Switch ecosystem too, that it's so easy to develop for that now it has every indie in existence dumped into its store and it's hard to find specific games.

    Having little more than Mario + Zelda, vs. having Mario + Zelda + Hitman + Kingdom Hearts + Doom, that's all part of having a healthy ecosystem.

    Or on the opposite side of that spectrum, I would say that Stadia has not cultivated a healthy ecosystem.

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  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    The library is the games and the ecosystem is everything else is usually how these terms are used. Nintendo commonly has a solid library and a shockingly anemic ecosystem, since the 360/Ps3 generation where those systems started to be fleshed out.

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    TimFiji wrote: »
    I mean I don't need any of that online shit so maybe just the best ecosystem for those of us that just like to play a great game on the switch without playing with others?

    It's not an either/or situation though. You can still enjoy great single-player games on PS and Xbox. The online features don't get in the way of that.

    This is like if we were at a diner, and I was annoyed that they didn't have syrup for my waffles, and you were like, "I don't even like syrup on my waffles. This place is great for people that like their waffles without syrup," as if other places required you to add syrup to your waffles.

    What I'm saying is that it's Sunday night and I want some waffles.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I think it's fair to say that the Nintendo argument has been well worn out over the last 20 years. Nintendo does there own thing, for both good and bad. Sometimes the bads aren't so bad for some people, while the goods aren't so good for others.

    Point is, I don't see any logical or illogical reason to discuss Nintendo's decisions for the next 2-3 pages. That time would be better off playing games from our existing backlogs. Not that playing games happens that much anyway...

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  • TimFijiTimFiji Beast Lord Halfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
    Dirty wrote: »
    TimFiji wrote: »
    I mean I don't need any of that online shit so maybe just the best ecosystem for those of us that just like to play a great game on the switch without playing with others?

    It's not an either/or situation though. You can still enjoy great single-player games on PS and Xbox. The online features don't get in the way of that.

    This is like if we were at a diner, and I was annoyed that they didn't have syrup for my waffles, and you were like, "I don't even like syrup on my waffles. This place is great for people that like their waffles without syrup," as if other places required you to add syrup to your waffles.

    What I'm saying is that it's Sunday night and I want some waffles.

    I mean that's ok. If you want something else then focus on that. it feels more like you went to a no-syrup waffle house and complained there was no syrup. I don't know, though. I'm used to the regulars in this argument so I probably shouldn't have said anything

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    TimFiji wrote: »
    Dirty wrote: »
    TimFiji wrote: »
    I mean I don't need any of that online shit so maybe just the best ecosystem for those of us that just like to play a great game on the switch without playing with others?

    It's not an either/or situation though. You can still enjoy great single-player games on PS and Xbox. The online features don't get in the way of that.

    This is like if we were at a diner, and I was annoyed that they didn't have syrup for my waffles, and you were like, "I don't even like syrup on my waffles. This place is great for people that like their waffles without syrup," as if other places required you to add syrup to your waffles.

    What I'm saying is that it's Sunday night and I want some waffles.

    I mean that's ok. If you want something else then focus on that. it feels more like you went to a no-syrup waffle house and complained there was no syrup. I don't know, though. I'm used to the regulars in this argument so I probably shouldn't have said anything

    Maybe, but it's a no-syrup waffle house where many of the patrons frequently ask them to start stocking syrup, but the owner just shrugs and says he doesn't know how to buy syrup.

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    I imagine there is a booth off to the corner with someone representing the like of Gizmondo, NGage, and and Ouya. Just putting ketchup on everything indiscriminately like a goddamn monster and putting weird things in their water and daring others to drink it.

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  • TimFijiTimFiji Beast Lord Halfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
    Dirty wrote: »
    TimFiji wrote: »
    Dirty wrote: »
    TimFiji wrote: »
    I mean I don't need any of that online shit so maybe just the best ecosystem for those of us that just like to play a great game on the switch without playing with others?

    It's not an either/or situation though. You can still enjoy great single-player games on PS and Xbox. The online features don't get in the way of that.

    This is like if we were at a diner, and I was annoyed that they didn't have syrup for my waffles, and you were like, "I don't even like syrup on my waffles. This place is great for people that like their waffles without syrup," as if other places required you to add syrup to your waffles.

    What I'm saying is that it's Sunday night and I want some waffles.

    I mean that's ok. If you want something else then focus on that. it feels more like you went to a no-syrup waffle house and complained there was no syrup. I don't know, though. I'm used to the regulars in this argument so I probably shouldn't have said anything

    Maybe, but it's a no-syrup waffle house where many of the patrons frequently ask them to start stocking syrup, but the owner just shrugs and says he doesn't know how to buy syrup.

    Now it just sounds like people acting like they're entitled to things

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    TimFiji wrote: »
    Dirty wrote: »
    TimFiji wrote: »
    Dirty wrote: »
    TimFiji wrote: »
    I mean I don't need any of that online shit so maybe just the best ecosystem for those of us that just like to play a great game on the switch without playing with others?

    It's not an either/or situation though. You can still enjoy great single-player games on PS and Xbox. The online features don't get in the way of that.

    This is like if we were at a diner, and I was annoyed that they didn't have syrup for my waffles, and you were like, "I don't even like syrup on my waffles. This place is great for people that like their waffles without syrup," as if other places required you to add syrup to your waffles.

    What I'm saying is that it's Sunday night and I want some waffles.

    I mean that's ok. If you want something else then focus on that. it feels more like you went to a no-syrup waffle house and complained there was no syrup. I don't know, though. I'm used to the regulars in this argument so I probably shouldn't have said anything

    Maybe, but it's a no-syrup waffle house where many of the patrons frequently ask them to start stocking syrup, but the owner just shrugs and says he doesn't know how to buy syrup.

    Now it just sounds like people acting like they're entitled to things

    But it's not entitlement. They're asking for some basic-ass shit. It's fucking syrup. They're not asking the waffle place to serve pizza or lobster. They're asking for something so simple that every waffle house in the world has figured it out. And instead, we're asked to try to smear some jelly on it.

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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Actually I don't really have the energy to get dogpiled on today. I know my opinion is unpopular so I'll just keep it to myself. Sorry for bringing it up!

    I'm with you. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to diminish everyone's complaints but there does seem to be a sort of "complaint olympics" going on with the internet in general. Things are blown way out of proportion and minor issues become the topic of multiple hour long videos about how Nintendo killed your childhood. All in all I think Nintendo is doing better than they've ever been and quite frankly they have the best ecosystem of all 4 big players even with the obvious problems. Nintendo could have gone full Actiblizzard or MSoft (or Valve lets be honest Valve arent the good guys anymore) but instead they seem to be sticking to Iwata's vision (which is tied into Yamauchi's vision) pretty closely. And I would be happy to prepare a TED talk for you guys if you would like to discuss this further.


    Edit: added shot at gaben. You broke my heart, Gabe, you broke my heart.

    Edit 2: but yeah I'm not afraid to get dogpiled. I'll take you all on! *giggles*

    yeah i'll have to disagree. I think charging a recurring fee for old games should result in well emulated titles with a lot of extra stuff for QoL.
    Putting the N64 games behind an extra price and giving us the worst emulation you can find (payed or free) is not a nice thing, and the double recurring price entitles people to expecting a quality service and complaining about the bad service they actually provided.

    And calling this shit "doing better than all others" is just wrong. They sold that halfassed Mario 3D collection and then took it off the store for no reason. They have the worst system for dealing with multiple consoles and accounts (as we can see in this thread).

    I like nintendo consoles and nintendo games. But I'm not gonna "stan" or "simp" for them or any other extremely rich megacorp. Nor am I gonna go all in on the "copium" like some people do. Even if there are silly internet people crying about "murdered childhoods", that has no bearing on other people and their really reasonable complaints and expectations. That is a terrible argument that can be misused to invalidate any and all honest criticism, and I do resent that.

    Sure, if you like paying for a bad service, great! Doesn't mean that i have to do it though!

    except I didnt say that they were doing the emulation better than all others, I agree it's a problem I just don't blow it out of proportion like you are doing right now. What Nintendo offers as a whole when everything is tied together is industry leading even with the very real problems that you correctly pointed out. The level of anger involved is hilarious and over the top though, and doesn't line up with the service Nintendo provides (we are literally in the middle of arguably the greatest console generation in Nintendo's history, for example). Oh and I'm used to being called a shill for being correct in my assessment of businesses, so no big deal no harm no foul.

    The service more than doubled in price purely to add N64 titles and Sega titles and the emulation on the N64 titles, which is completely under their control, is not as good as it was in the past. Where all you had to pay for was the games themselves. People are paying for this service to play games they already bought (possibly multiple times) and having a worse experience with it than the last time they bought them.

    What's the 'appropriate' level of anger here for this situation, then, if everyone is just blowing it out of proportion?

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    I think one thing that changed in terms of there being an available Virtual Console in part was the NES mini and SNES mini hitting the market. If there was a Virtual Console similar to the last two generations it doesn't make their new limited time hardware quite as attractive. (People would have still bought them anyway, but I bet Nintendo saw a Switch Virtual Console like store and those mini consoles both being available as them competing with themselves).

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