Sigh, it's never as good as the first time. Let me know when there's a new bigger ship class called Canal Fucker MAX or something and one of them gets stuck
Sigh, it's never as good as the first time. Let me know when there's a new bigger ship class called Canal Fucker MAX or something and one of them gets stuck
Breaking news, Stuck Boat Thread, a billionaire's toy submarine built with off-the shelf components and piloted by an off-brand xbox controller is lost (some would say stuck) at the bottom of the ocean. More news as it devel...
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The producers are now saying that the billionaire was ON the boat? That can't be right.
Correction: they're not missing, they're Extremely Dead. There's a token search and rescue operation but they're not going to find the bodies, which are best case at the bottom of the sea next to the Titanic's husk. They've been out of contact for 3 days and the sub had less than a day's worth of oxygen, had no safety equipment or ability to be tracked or communicated with underwater, was physically bolted shut from the outside with no way to escape to withstand the immense pressure at 2 miles down which will instantly kill a human messily, etc. etc.
Correction: they're not missing, they're Extremely Dead. There's a token search and rescue operation but they're not going to find the bodies, which are best case at the bottom of the sea next to the Titanic's husk. They've been out of contact for 3 days and the sub had less than a day's worth of oxygen, had no safety equipment or ability to be tracked or communicated with underwater, was physically bolted shut from the outside with no way to escape to withstand the immense pressure at 2 miles down which will instantly kill a human messily, etc. etc.
Okay I'm not willing to put the time in on this gag, but pretend I copy-pasted the stories about how the Elon Musk rocket explosion is actually good because of all the things that can be learned, but with references changed to reflect this disaster valuable learning experience.
Correction: they're not missing, they're Extremely Dead. There's a token search and rescue operation but they're not going to find the bodies, which are best case at the bottom of the sea next to the Titanic's husk. They've been out of contact for 3 days and the sub had less than a day's worth of oxygen, had no safety equipment or ability to be tracked or communicated with underwater, was physically bolted shut from the outside with no way to escape to withstand the immense pressure at 2 miles down which will instantly kill a human messily, etc. etc.
I read in a couple of places that they had oxygen to last until mid-Thursday UK time. Did that turn out to be wrong?
(Ignoring the fact that panicking people would probably use their O² up a lot more quickly anyway)
Correction: they're not missing, they're Extremely Dead. There's a token search and rescue operation but they're not going to find the bodies, which are best case at the bottom of the sea next to the Titanic's husk. They've been out of contact for 3 days and the sub had less than a day's worth of oxygen, had no safety equipment or ability to be tracked or communicated with underwater, was physically bolted shut from the outside with no way to escape to withstand the immense pressure at 2 miles down which will instantly kill a human messily, etc. etc.
I read in a couple of places that they had oxygen to last until mid-Thursday UK time. Did that turn out to be wrong?
(Ignoring the fact that panicking people would probably use their O² up a lot more quickly anyway)
I mean, they're still dead because there's no emergency beacon or anything on the sub to make it findable. There aren't really any submersibles that are going to grab a submarine and pull it up to the surface, and they need to take the sub apart to get them out of there.
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I wasn't disputing that they are Extremely Dead. I imagine oxygen wasn't the real concern anyway, based on that whistleblower article I assume they've been turned into watery paste.
I must have misheard about the oxygen then, I guess they might hypothetically not be dead yet
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I am extremely confident that their flimsily built backyard sub went past its crush depth and imploded.
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Also I don't know what they had in terms of water but I don't think they had 5 days' worth.
Also I don't trust their air system to continue working at the depths they were going to.
Also I don't know if they even bothered having CO2 scrubbers, which you need or else CO2 builds up to toxic levels even if you have enough oyxgen.
Also I imagine their engine wasn't rated to the proper depths.
They built the thing for $25,000 when submersibles with serious depth ranges typically cost tens of millions of dollars, there's no way any of the engineering was up to par.
I am extremely confident that their flimsily built backyard sub went past its crush depth and imploded.
It's one of those things where there's really just four alternatives.
They went past their crush depth and died a horrifying death as the sub imploded. Remarkably, this might actually be the kindest alternative as their death would be so sudden that it would be painless - there literally wouldn't be enough time for pain receptor signals to reach their brain before they were crushed into compact mush.
They got stuck somewhere at the bottom of the sea, possibly even within the Titanic's wreck. They are still alive, but slowly asphyxiating within the next day or so. A really bad way to go.
As #2, but they realized that their death was inevitable and committed suicide to avoid that experience.
As #2, but they miraculously manage to get saved soon. Wow.
Horrifying alternative to #2 that would make #4 slightly more likely: they managed to surface, but since they're still bolted into their death-trap with no way of escaping they'd suffocate while seeing air outside their viewport.
Because they're bolted in with no escape, see. It only opens from the outside.
Did they do anything on this run they hadn't before? This is not this vehicle's first trip
I've been wondering about this, too. Because based on what we've heard, they've either done this, specifically, several times, or else have never done it before.
I'm guessing the sub(s?) have done actually for-sale trips, just never one to the actual wreckage before
That opens from outside thing is why the whole ethos behind the sub's design screams "tech bro breaking what didn't need fixed" to me.
Like I guess you might be worried someone tries to open the door while submerged. They just need to push past billions of tons of water first, easy!
I suspect though I don't really know that it's because it's a lot cheaper to bolt a pressure-sealed wall on than to manufacture an operable door mechanism that can withstand the incredible pressure at that depth, and if nothing goes wrong you would never need a door, just get the sub recovered and have the people outside unbolt the wall again
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Also I don't know what they had in terms of water but I don't think they had 5 days' worth.
Also I don't trust their air system to continue working at the depths they were going to.
Also I don't know if they even bothered having CO2 scrubbers, which you need or else CO2 builds up to toxic levels even if you have enough oyxgen.
Also I imagine their engine wasn't rated to the proper depths.
They built the thing for $25,000 when submersibles with serious depth ranges typically cost tens of millions of dollars, there's no way any of the engineering was up to par.
Lol what. Going to the ocean floor in the marine equivalent of an affordable hatchback.
That opens from outside thing is why the whole ethos behind the sub's design screams "tech bro breaking what didn't need fixed" to me.
Like I guess you might be worried someone tries to open the door while submerged. They just need to push past billions of tons of water first, easy!
Well presumably it's much easier to get the seal for that depth when you're not dealing with a door mechanism. I would actually feel safer being bolted into my tomb than trust spinning a big wheel for 12,500 feet.
I am not an optimistic person in general and I wouldn't bat an eye if the world lost a few billionaires, but I'm still hoping they find the submersible safe and sound because there's a chance that the 19 year old kid could grow up to be more than a rich asshole. The odds aren't great, but no mother deserves to hear the news that her idiot husband got himself and her son killed in a poorly designed oceanic coffin for five.
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The producers are now saying that the billionaire was ON the boat? That can't be right.
He was also aboard.
Okay I'm not willing to put the time in on this gag, but pretend I copy-pasted the stories about how the Elon Musk rocket explosion is actually good because of all the things that can be learned, but with references changed to reflect this disaster valuable learning experience.
I read in a couple of places that they had oxygen to last until mid-Thursday UK time. Did that turn out to be wrong?
(Ignoring the fact that panicking people would probably use their O² up a lot more quickly anyway)
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I mean, they're still dead because there's no emergency beacon or anything on the sub to make it findable. There aren't really any submersibles that are going to grab a submarine and pull it up to the surface, and they need to take the sub apart to get them out of there.
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Also I don't trust their air system to continue working at the depths they were going to.
Also I don't know if they even bothered having CO2 scrubbers, which you need or else CO2 builds up to toxic levels even if you have enough oyxgen.
Also I imagine their engine wasn't rated to the proper depths.
They built the thing for $25,000 when submersibles with serious depth ranges typically cost tens of millions of dollars, there's no way any of the engineering was up to par.
In a twisted way that might be the merciful outcome. In my spoiler tags are a timeline for accoustics recorded for the implosion of the USS Scorpion
It's one of those things where there's really just four alternatives.
- They went past their crush depth and died a horrifying death as the sub imploded. Remarkably, this might actually be the kindest alternative as their death would be so sudden that it would be painless - there literally wouldn't be enough time for pain receptor signals to reach their brain before they were crushed into compact mush.
- They got stuck somewhere at the bottom of the sea, possibly even within the Titanic's wreck. They are still alive, but slowly asphyxiating within the next day or so. A really bad way to go.
- As #2, but they realized that their death was inevitable and committed suicide to avoid that experience.
- As #2, but they miraculously manage to get saved soon. Wow.
Horrifying alternative to #2 that would make #4 slightly more likely: they managed to surface, but since they're still bolted into their death-trap with no way of escaping they'd suffocate while seeing air outside their viewport.Because they're bolted in with no escape, see. It only opens from the outside.
Like I guess you might be worried someone tries to open the door while submerged. They just need to push past billions of tons of water first, easy!
I've been wondering about this, too. Because based on what we've heard, they've either done this, specifically, several times, or else have never done it before.
I'm guessing the sub(s?) have done actually for-sale trips, just never one to the actual wreckage before
Were its previous trips to the Titanic?
I suspect though I don't really know that it's because it's a lot cheaper to bolt a pressure-sealed wall on than to manufacture an operable door mechanism that can withstand the incredible pressure at that depth, and if nothing goes wrong you would never need a door, just get the sub recovered and have the people outside unbolt the wall again
Lol what. Going to the ocean floor in the marine equivalent of an affordable hatchback.
I think I read somewhere that the 'science' was 'annual recording of degradation of the Titanic wreck' and this was year 3.
But I can't find my source on that, so...