Calling BOTW flatly "bad" is ridiculous; not liking it makes perfect sense, of course, since some people don't like certain things, even things that are good
I think calling it one of the best games ever made is a bit hyperbolic. I think "revolutionary" is a very accurate label for it, though it's overused. But many parts of BOTW are kind of humdrum or serviceable at best (story and characterization, combat, menu design) even while other parts are starkly amazing (world design, exploration and expedition, scale, lack of limits on player movement but enough friction to make it really enjoyable)
Maybe I'm too hesitant to say "one of the best games ever made," or I'm too biased because I couldn't stay interested long enough to finish BOTW. When I think of games that qualify, it's not hard to argue they have their own major problems, sometimes similar ones — Mario 64, Super Metroid, Shadow of the Colossus, Outer Wilds, Half Life 1 and 2, etc
Not sure if you’re pointing at me with this post but I’m not sure I saw anyone call it one of the best games ever made. I said specifically it’s in the conversation for my favorite game ever, not that I think it’s one of the best games ever made. Very specifically for me it’s probably in my top 5, but that’s a list that might include virtua tennis and NFL blitz as well.
DK said it
I want everyone to be clear that the best game ever is Uniracers
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Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
I have no idea what this sentence means
They got their start doing casual wear for bodyguards IIRC, but they make polo shirts, dress pants, socks, belts, etc. all geared toward heavy movement and concealed carry.
They're the gold standard for professionals and people with a lot of money.
Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
I have no idea what this sentence means
S-tier belts have even-to-favorable matchups across the board in the current meta.
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TTODewbackPuts the drawl in ya'llI think I'm in HellRegistered Userregular
i was sadly super disappointed in academy last time i went.
i went last week to get a gameday shirt for foooootbaawwllll and there was just all sorts of shit thrown together in the mens section
no size ordering womens and childrens shirts randomly inserted places on the rack just very.. Walmart-y
i was like fuck man i dont even want to bother with this shit and left without buying anything and just ordered something online
Bless your heart.
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Calling BOTW flatly "bad" is ridiculous; not liking it makes perfect sense, of course, since some people don't like certain things, even things that are good
I think calling it one of the best games ever made is a bit hyperbolic. I think "revolutionary" is a very accurate label for it, though it's overused. But many parts of BOTW are kind of humdrum or serviceable at best (story and characterization, combat, menu design) even while other parts are starkly amazing (world design, exploration and expedition, scale, lack of limits on player movement but enough friction to make it really enjoyable)
Maybe I'm too hesitant to say "one of the best games ever made," or I'm too biased because I couldn't stay interested long enough to finish BOTW. When I think of games that qualify, it's not hard to argue they have their own major problems, sometimes similar ones — Mario 64, Super Metroid, Shadow of the Colossus, Outer Wilds, Half Life 1 and 2, etc
Not sure if you’re pointing at me with this post but I’m not sure I saw anyone call it one of the best games ever made. I said specifically it’s in the conversation for my favorite game ever, not that I think it’s one of the best games ever made. Very specifically for me it’s probably in my top 5, but that’s a list that might include virtua tennis and NFL blitz as well.
DK said it
I want everyone to be clear that the best game ever is Uniracers
People keep saying this and I keep trying it and it’s fine I guess but I think @nexuscrawler needs to come over and play it with me or something.
Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
5-11 occupies a lot of niches for uniform stuff that major brands don't which makes their blue line brand identity kind of unfortunate.
I will say between them and Bates I've had like 10 pairs of boots over the last 15 years and they're all overpriced bullshit.
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I don't even know what S Tier is but y'all used to say it a lot.
Also Six NFL Blitz was so GODDAMN fun. Did you play it in the arcade where you could store your stats and show off to the girl in the food court like I did?
are YOU on the beer list?
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Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
I have no idea what this sentence means
They got their start doing casual wear for bodyguards IIRC, but they make polo shirts, dress pants, socks, belts, etc. all geared toward heavy movement and concealed carry.
They're the gold standard for professionals and people with a lot of money.
Need to back up. Like I still have no idea what any of the proper names are in the first sentence or how they relate to each other.
Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
I have no idea what this sentence means
S-tier belts have even-to-favorable matchups across the board in the current meta.
Surprisingly, belts rarely end up in even matches, even though they're made to be tied
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
5-11 occupies a lot of niches for uniform stuff that major brands don't which makes their blue line brand identity kind of unfortunate.
I will say between them and Bates I've had like 10 pairs of boots over the last 15 years and they're all overpriced bullshit.
I'm still rocking my Sportsmans Guide HQ Issues I bought I think five or six years ago.
They're p. rough at this point but still mostly waterproof.
Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
I have no idea what this sentence means
They got their start doing casual wear for bodyguards IIRC, but they make polo shirts, dress pants, socks, belts, etc. all geared toward heavy movement and concealed carry.
They're the gold standard for professionals and people with a lot of money.
Need to back up. Like I still have no idea what any of the proper names are in the first sentence or how they relate to each other.
Every store has one store manager and three assistant store managers. One of them just revealed they have no idea who I am.
I’m tasked with writing up a new hire who has a very large number of absences and latenesses. I find one of these ASMs and tell her hey, I need this person’s calendar card. Can you get it for me?
They go, when will a front end manager be here? Shouldn’t you be leaving this for them? I go, I am a front end manager. She goes oh, they promoted you?? N-no I’ve had this role for almost seven years.
Damn. There are literally five front end managers. Glad to see I’m appreciated. 🥸
Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
5-11 occupies a lot of niches for uniform stuff that major brands don't which makes their blue line brand identity kind of unfortunate.
I will say between them and Bates I've had like 10 pairs of boots over the last 15 years and they're all overpriced bullshit.
I'm still rocking my Sportsmans Guide HQ Issues I bought I think five or six years ago.
They're p. rough at this point but still mostly waterproof.
Our station wear boots get worn every four days and aren't even worn during most of our dirty work and I've still had multiple pairs basically disintegrate on me.
Hell I literally watched a coworkers brand new pair have the soles fall off over the course of a morning
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Every store has one store manager and three assistant store managers. One of them just revealed they have no idea who I am.
I’m tasked with writing up a new hire who has a very large number of absences and latenesses. I find one of these ASMs and tell her hey, I need this person’s calendar card. Can you get it for me?
They go, when will a front end manager be here? Shouldn’t you be leaving this for them? I go, I am a front end manager. She goes oh, they promoted you?? N-no I’ve had this role for almost seven years.
Damn. There are literally five front end managers. Glad to see I’m appreciated. 🥸
that just means you havent fucked up bad enough
yet
Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
5-11 occupies a lot of niches for uniform stuff that major brands don't which makes their blue line brand identity kind of unfortunate.
I will say between them and Bates I've had like 10 pairs of boots over the last 15 years and they're all overpriced bullshit.
I'm still rocking my Sportsmans Guide HQ Issues I bought I think five or six years ago.
They're p. rough at this point but still mostly waterproof.
Our station wear boots get worn every four days and aren't even worn during most of our dirty work and I've still had multiple pairs basically disintegrate on me.
Hell I literally watched a coworkers brand new pair have the soles fall off over the course of a morning
Danner or Cocoran, Nike, Salomon
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Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
5-11 occupies a lot of niches for uniform stuff that major brands don't which makes their blue line brand identity kind of unfortunate.
I will say between them and Bates I've had like 10 pairs of boots over the last 15 years and they're all overpriced bullshit.
I'm still rocking my Sportsmans Guide HQ Issues I bought I think five or six years ago.
They're p. rough at this point but still mostly waterproof.
Our station wear boots get worn every four days and aren't even worn during most of our dirty work and I've still had multiple pairs basically disintegrate on me.
Hell I literally watched a coworkers brand new pair have the soles fall off over the course of a morning
Yeah I got scammed once on some "blemished" heavy duty work boots and blemished meant the glue didn't set on the sole.
I think it popped off that first weekend of ownership.
Try doing nothing but attending meetings and giving people flat cost of living wage increases at review time. Maybe push some business fad on them every few quarters to seal the image.
Calling BOTW flatly "bad" is ridiculous; not liking it makes perfect sense, of course, since some people don't like certain things, even things that are good
I think calling it one of the best games ever made is a bit hyperbolic. I think "revolutionary" is a very accurate label for it, though it's overused. But many parts of BOTW are kind of humdrum or serviceable at best (story and characterization, combat, menu design) even while other parts are starkly amazing (world design, exploration and expedition, scale, lack of limits on player movement but enough friction to make it really enjoyable)
Maybe I'm too hesitant to say "one of the best games ever made," or I'm too biased because I couldn't stay interested long enough to finish BOTW. When I think of games that qualify, it's not hard to argue they have their own major problems, sometimes similar ones — Mario 64, Super Metroid, Shadow of the Colossus, Outer Wilds, Half Life 1 and 2, etc
It's [chat]; I was being flippant because being flippant was funnier.
A large number of elements are below the standard set by competitors in the field of sandbox tower games with melee and bows, such as Horizon: Zero Dawn. The *visual* elements are pretty great as long as you don't mind the art direction, but the sheer number of areas that are in need of improvement is staggering.
Now, it's from the Wii U era, so maybe judging it in 2021 is unfair, but I've played better versions of just about all of what the game does. The climbing variety is a bit novel, but *really needs work*.
I could go into great detail, but there are, what, seven years of YouTube critique out there? I wouldn't be adding anything that hasn't been said other than "I also can't ignore the bad parts enough to enjoy it".
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back in the day when my fam ran the machine shop everyone always bought their work boots at the local country/western mall.
I don't even know what S Tier is but y'all used to say it a lot.
Also Six NFL Blitz was so GODDAMN fun. Did you play it in the arcade where you could store your stats and show off to the girl in the food court like I did?
S is better than A. I think it's a korean gamer thing? Elite tier. Ranking would be like S A B C D F.
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knitdanIn ur baseKillin ur guysRegistered Userregular
I don't even know what S Tier is but y'all used to say it a lot.
Also Six NFL Blitz was so GODDAMN fun. Did you play it in the arcade where you could store your stats and show off to the girl in the food court like I did?
S-tier is when you’re graded on an A-F scale and you do better than A. The very best.
It’s from Final Fantasy VIII.
I lost so many quarters and my first major to NFL Blitz in the student union building’s arcade.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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NFL Blitz was my favorite sports game back in the day
BIG HEAD NO PENALTIES
150 yard touchdown rushes every play
AH AH AH AH AH AH
Bless your heart.
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Calling BOTW flatly "bad" is ridiculous; not liking it makes perfect sense, of course, since some people don't like certain things, even things that are good
I think calling it one of the best games ever made is a bit hyperbolic. I think "revolutionary" is a very accurate label for it, though it's overused. But many parts of BOTW are kind of humdrum or serviceable at best (story and characterization, combat, menu design) even while other parts are starkly amazing (world design, exploration and expedition, scale, lack of limits on player movement but enough friction to make it really enjoyable)
Maybe I'm too hesitant to say "one of the best games ever made," or I'm too biased because I couldn't stay interested long enough to finish BOTW. When I think of games that qualify, it's not hard to argue they have their own major problems, sometimes similar ones — Mario 64, Super Metroid, Shadow of the Colossus, Outer Wilds, Half Life 1 and 2, etc
Not sure if you’re pointing at me with this post but I’m not sure I saw anyone call it one of the best games ever made. I said specifically it’s in the conversation for my favorite game ever, not that I think it’s one of the best games ever made. Very specifically for me it’s probably in my top 5, but that’s a list that might include virtua tennis and NFL blitz as well.
DK said it
I want everyone to be clear that the best game ever is Uniracers
I said it and I stand by it! It is one of the best games ever made! I even think it's less flawed than many other games I'd give that description to, a handful of which you've already mentioned. Though I think being influential is not enough to keep a title on this list, and as soon as something comes along to outdo BotW at the things it does best, it'll probably drop off. Like depending of the day I might say Mario 64 doesn't really count anymore, since Galaxy came along.
Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
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seriously if you ever had a play under 60 yards in NFL Blitz you were playing it wrong
turn any semblance of difficulty off and just go ham
Bless your heart.
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Calling BOTW flatly "bad" is ridiculous; not liking it makes perfect sense, of course, since some people don't like certain things, even things that are good
I think calling it one of the best games ever made is a bit hyperbolic. I think "revolutionary" is a very accurate label for it, though it's overused. But many parts of BOTW are kind of humdrum or serviceable at best (story and characterization, combat, menu design) even while other parts are starkly amazing (world design, exploration and expedition, scale, lack of limits on player movement but enough friction to make it really enjoyable)
Maybe I'm too hesitant to say "one of the best games ever made," or I'm too biased because I couldn't stay interested long enough to finish BOTW. When I think of games that qualify, it's not hard to argue they have their own major problems, sometimes similar ones — Mario 64, Super Metroid, Shadow of the Colossus, Outer Wilds, Half Life 1 and 2, etc
For me I enjoyed BOTW but it wouldn't even crack a top 10 for innovation or a personal favorite.
It's good, and the end was nice, and some parts were really cool, but I think it's overstated exactly how much it innovated or revolutionized, kind of like Goldeneye or Mario 64, both of which did good things to be sure, and that may be due to how much the people enjoyed the game. Which is fair. People tend to favor the technical or design breakthroughs of games they like more than is probably accurate, but it's a relatively harmless thing.
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I need new music to listen to.
I was really enjoying the synthwave stuff I was finding on youtube, but that's like an hour of music each day. And it doesn't play very nice with my media controls.
Damn Dewey I didn't know 5-11 had a storefront. They sell the brand in Academy and Bass Pro and it's expensive as fuck and geared toward "I like to carry more than one gun"
Their belts are S-Tier tho
I have no idea what this sentence means
Dewey Cox sells high priced tacti-cool gear for Sebastian Gorka.
I was really enjoying the synthwave stuff I was finding on youtube, but that's like an hour of music each day. And it doesn't play very nice with my media controls.
How do you feel about EDM by people who watch too many cartoons?
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I personally am looking forward to Metroid Dread so much more than BOTW2, because to me Metroid is the better series by a country mile.
Elden Ring is the other open world RPG I'm craving way more than BOTW2 as well.
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Back when the PSP was a thing they put out a game called NFL Street where you played 3 on 3 in like, parking lots
It had players like Randy Moss and Brian Urlacher and played a lot like NFL Blitz and every hit would be a career ender in real life.
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It's interesting that it took about 17 years of open world games for somebody to figure out that every single player in every single one of these games is always trying to glitch their way up the tallest structure in the world, or to jank their way straight up a mountain, and to maybe make this not a glitch seeking contest but to plan, design, and gamify vertical terrain traversal.
That the developer to do this is stodgy old Nintendo, a decade too late, and on their first try at the genre is kind of miraculous.
Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
I personally am looking forward to Metroid Dread so much more than BOTW2, because to me Metroid is the better series by a country mile.
I am avoiding getting too attached to the idea of the game. I'll be waiting for reviews, but will get it ASAP if the reviews from people who are reasonably critical are positive.
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DK said it
I want everyone to be clear that the best game ever is Uniracers
They got their start doing casual wear for bodyguards IIRC, but they make polo shirts, dress pants, socks, belts, etc. all geared toward heavy movement and concealed carry.
They're the gold standard for professionals and people with a lot of money.
S-tier belts have even-to-favorable matchups across the board in the current meta.
i went last week to get a gameday shirt for foooootbaawwllll and there was just all sorts of shit thrown together in the mens section
no size ordering womens and childrens shirts randomly inserted places on the rack just very.. Walmart-y
i was like fuck man i dont even want to bother with this shit and left without buying anything and just ordered something online
People keep saying this and I keep trying it and it’s fine I guess but I think @nexuscrawler needs to come over and play it with me or something.
5-11 occupies a lot of niches for uniform stuff that major brands don't which makes their blue line brand identity kind of unfortunate.
I will say between them and Bates I've had like 10 pairs of boots over the last 15 years and they're all overpriced bullshit.
Come Overwatch with meeeee
Also Six NFL Blitz was so GODDAMN fun. Did you play it in the arcade where you could store your stats and show off to the girl in the food court like I did?
Need to back up. Like I still have no idea what any of the proper names are in the first sentence or how they relate to each other.
Surprisingly, belts rarely end up in even matches, even though they're made to be tied
I'm still rocking my Sportsmans Guide HQ Issues I bought I think five or six years ago.
They're p. rough at this point but still mostly waterproof.
Doctor gave him Cocodamal, Naproxin and Diazapam, basically carpet bombing the problem.
https://www.511tactical.com/
This is easier than me trying to type words better.
also 5-11 calls their Chuck style shoes...Norris
I shit you not.
I’m tasked with writing up a new hire who has a very large number of absences and latenesses. I find one of these ASMs and tell her hey, I need this person’s calendar card. Can you get it for me?
They go, when will a front end manager be here? Shouldn’t you be leaving this for them? I go, I am a front end manager. She goes oh, they promoted you?? N-no I’ve had this role for almost seven years.
Damn. There are literally five front end managers. Glad to see I’m appreciated. 🥸
Our station wear boots get worn every four days and aren't even worn during most of our dirty work and I've still had multiple pairs basically disintegrate on me.
Hell I literally watched a coworkers brand new pair have the soles fall off over the course of a morning
Come Overwatch with meeeee
How much do you want to be able to walk when you're 60?
I was a child the last time I did it, but they work.
that just means you havent fucked up bad enough
yet
I’m so lame my portrait is a painting of a cave.
Danner or Cocoran, Nike, Salomon
ed: and Rocky
Yeah I got scammed once on some "blemished" heavy duty work boots and blemished meant the glue didn't set on the sole.
I think it popped off that first weekend of ownership.
Convince everyone to just not show up and call it The Rapture.
Try doing nothing but attending meetings and giving people flat cost of living wage increases at review time. Maybe push some business fad on them every few quarters to seal the image.
It's [chat]; I was being flippant because being flippant was funnier.
A large number of elements are below the standard set by competitors in the field of sandbox tower games with melee and bows, such as Horizon: Zero Dawn. The *visual* elements are pretty great as long as you don't mind the art direction, but the sheer number of areas that are in need of improvement is staggering.
Now, it's from the Wii U era, so maybe judging it in 2021 is unfair, but I've played better versions of just about all of what the game does. The climbing variety is a bit novel, but *really needs work*.
I could go into great detail, but there are, what, seven years of YouTube critique out there? I wouldn't be adding anything that hasn't been said other than "I also can't ignore the bad parts enough to enjoy it".
S is better than A. I think it's a korean gamer thing? Elite tier. Ranking would be like S A B C D F.
S-tier is when you’re graded on an A-F scale and you do better than A. The very best.
It’s from Final Fantasy VIII.
I lost so many quarters and my first major to NFL Blitz in the student union building’s arcade.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
BIG HEAD NO PENALTIES
150 yard touchdown rushes every play
AH AH AH AH AH AH
I said it and I stand by it! It is one of the best games ever made! I even think it's less flawed than many other games I'd give that description to, a handful of which you've already mentioned. Though I think being influential is not enough to keep a title on this list, and as soon as something comes along to outdo BotW at the things it does best, it'll probably drop off. Like depending of the day I might say Mario 64 doesn't really count anymore, since Galaxy came along.
turn any semblance of difficulty off and just go ham
For me I enjoyed BOTW but it wouldn't even crack a top 10 for innovation or a personal favorite.
It's good, and the end was nice, and some parts were really cool, but I think it's overstated exactly how much it innovated or revolutionized, kind of like Goldeneye or Mario 64, both of which did good things to be sure, and that may be due to how much the people enjoyed the game. Which is fair. People tend to favor the technical or design breakthroughs of games they like more than is probably accurate, but it's a relatively harmless thing.
I was really enjoying the synthwave stuff I was finding on youtube, but that's like an hour of music each day. And it doesn't play very nice with my media controls.
Dewey Cox sells high priced tacti-cool gear for Sebastian Gorka.
How do you feel about EDM by people who watch too many cartoons?
Elden Ring is the other open world RPG I'm craving way more than BOTW2 as well.
It had players like Randy Moss and Brian Urlacher and played a lot like NFL Blitz and every hit would be a career ender in real life.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
That the developer to do this is stodgy old Nintendo, a decade too late, and on their first try at the genre is kind of miraculous.
I am avoiding getting too attached to the idea of the game. I'll be waiting for reviews, but will get it ASAP if the reviews from people who are reasonably critical are positive.