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[The Matrix] - Open Spoilers for All Movies!
Athenor
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It was 1999. I was a young nerd in his Junior year of high school, when a friend of mine asked if I wanted to see The Matrix with him. I said "hell yes" or something to that effect. We got horrible seats in a packed theater - the top row, right side, right under an enormous speaker stack that was way too loud. My friend later admitted that the screwed up volume really hurt his enjoyment of the film. Personally? I didn't care, because I could feel everything happening on screen. It was bliss.
The Wachowskis unleased The Matrix onto an unsuspecting populace that year. Through a combination of a very intelligent marketing campaign, usage of the early internet, and spectacular special effects, they proceeded to pretty much change the world in a way few have ever accomplished. The Matrix went on to be a blockbuster hit, spawning revolutions in storytelling, visual presentation, action, and all sorts of other categories.
Then the rest of the franchise came along, and the results were... Mixed. Many take issue with how Revolutions ended (which even the Wachowskis lampshade in The Path of Neo), and the years of hype just fell flat. Enter the Matrix was rushed to release on time and was extremely janky as a result, and The Matrix Online never really caught on the way many were hoping.
However, in the time since the early 2000s, much has been written about these properties. About the themes and subtexts. About the special effects and influence on Western cinema. On our very thoughts about what is real. And now, 16 years later, The Matrix is being Resurrected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ix7TUGVYIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgYs_NDyaLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNpvWBuTfrc
Rules of the Thread:
What is your favorite Matrix?
The Wachowskis unleased The Matrix onto an unsuspecting populace that year. Through a combination of a very intelligent marketing campaign, usage of the early internet, and spectacular special effects, they proceeded to pretty much change the world in a way few have ever accomplished. The Matrix went on to be a blockbuster hit, spawning revolutions in storytelling, visual presentation, action, and all sorts of other categories.
Then the rest of the franchise came along, and the results were... Mixed. Many take issue with how Revolutions ended (which even the Wachowskis lampshade in The Path of Neo), and the years of hype just fell flat. Enter the Matrix was rushed to release on time and was extremely janky as a result, and The Matrix Online never really caught on the way many were hoping.
However, in the time since the early 2000s, much has been written about these properties. About the themes and subtexts. About the special effects and influence on Western cinema. On our very thoughts about what is real. And now, 16 years later, The Matrix is being Resurrected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ix7TUGVYIohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgYs_NDyaLshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNpvWBuTfrcRules of the Thread:
- OPEN SPOILERS FOR RELEASED MEDIA. This includes the items listed in the poll, and the teaser trailer for Resurrections. Please be respectful and use labeled spoilers for speculation, leaks, and the future trailers until this OP gets updated (so that people avoiding the teasers can still participate).
- Please be respectful of everyone's opinions. No one knows the journey other people have gone on, and The Matrix was highly influential to many - including the Wachowskis.
- Please try to contribute more than just "The sequels were bad." We've all heard those takes. Explain why you feel the way you do! Try to find good things in parts you didn't like, or bad things in parts you did. IMO, this whole franchise is about coming together, and this thread should reflect that.
- Similarly, please do not give oxygen to the more perverse elements that have spawned out of this franchise. Yes, we know there are denizens of the internet and world who have co-opted imagery from this film to push their fascist agendas or to be exclusionary/predatory. That's not worth talking about.
What is your favorite Matrix?
He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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[The Matrix] - Open Spoilers for All Movies! 167 votes
The Matrix
59%
99 votes
The Animatrix
19%
33 votes
The Matrix Reloaded
4%
7 votes
Enter the Matrix
2%
4 votes
The Matrix Revolutions
1%
3 votes
The Matrix Online
1%
3 votes
The Matrix: Path of Neo
2%
5 votes
Conker's Bad Fur Day
7%
13 votes
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Probably not very different, but you never know.
In Reloaded, right? Yeah... after all the practical work in the first, that was super disappointing, when it could've been an amazing moment without Rubber Keanu.
Edit: Much like Babylon 5, I have to imagine that modern fan products could make better CGI than that today.
... wait, these are both WB properties. Shit.
This trailer wipes all that way and I really can't wait for new Matrix material. It's one of my favorite universes and I hope this film if anything does well and allows for more stories in this world.
As for the Resurrections itself, I love the take as it's represented in the trailer. Thankfully another pro of the trailer is we still don't know the plot of the movie, just a few shades and introductions while hitting familiar beats. I am definitely in, and I'm so glad it has a Christmas release and not a 2022 release.
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The main issue I remember, from watching that scene quite a few times, is that the lighting is very off and inconsistent between CGI and real actors. The CGI Smithes themselves aren't bad, but the lighting just bounces off them like they're made of plastic.
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(Pretty hype, not going to lie)
Interesting it is listed as "only in cinemas" when HBO Max was on the latest teaser.
Also the Matrix Lobby Scene and Mambo #5 sync up entirely too well
I always appreciate the Sister's willingness to take big swings even if they don't always hit. And the trailer hits all the right notes.
If you haven't seen it, atleast watch these
Can't find this one on YouTube but it's directed by the director of Cowboy Bebop
^just an amv made with the visuals
And then Revolutions just kind of ignored all that entirely.
I did not realize at the time that was an incredibly optimistic take on the results of automation.
I kind of assumed that Neo eventually won and I guess let everyone wake up in the grody gray world? Did that happen?
Not really, they
Unfortunately they couldn't even catch the lightning again like three years later, so I kinda doubt they will a generation on.
yeah people hate on Reloaded cause it had some awkward scenes and non-sequitor dialogue but it introduced a lot of fun concepts and I definitely left the theater interested in where it was all going
then of course revolutions abandoned basically all of that in favor of boring savior mythology; I've always wondered if there was another version that had to be cut down for some reason
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
oh
I guess that doesn't sound too bad
it's left a bit ambiguous but
and yeah neo and trinity die
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
The Matrix release was perfectly executed. It wasn't a deep or meaningful movie. Everything about it was rule of cool, but it was cool. The sets, the props, the costumes, the sound design and music; it was all just awesome according to the sensibilities of the target demographic at the time. The script wasn't inspired or saying anything other people hadn't said before but it said it all in a fun, extremely quotable way. And when the movie came out they managed to do it with enough hype coupled with enough secrecy that people walked into the theater with absolutely no idea what they were in for.
Even if the sequels had been just as good as the first film they couldn't have recaptured the magic of "No one can tell you what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself." or that first shot of Trinity doing a flying kick in bullet time.
I don't see any way for this one to recapture that, either, but it does at least look fun and like they're focusing on the cool stuff from the first movie over the weird and janky stuff from the later ones.
The highway chase is still one of the best action set pieces in movie history
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It’s overall still an extremely cool movie
Relevant Director Commentary:
Lilly Wachowski is Co-Director of the Matrix Trilogy and does not suffer fools
He’s their workaround, basically
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Yeah. It makes sense we get him back. I think twice in the trailer when Neo is shown in a mirror, he's much older than in the matrix.
I hate speculating but maybe this version just took a lot longer for him to blue pill.
My broad understanding is the machines cannot build a perfect matrix for every possible human brain. So the One and Zion stuff was planned for instead of planned against.
Neo decided to try for plan C, in which Smith's rampage being his opportunity to bargain.
And I do mean "mixed." There is a lot of authoritarian gaslighting in psychiatry.
But I can definitely see this going the same route as "red pill" in pop culture, where "blue pill" gets co-opted by pseudoscientific anti-pharma woo-shillers and conspiracy theorists.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.