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Lil comic - Wow flavored

wyvern14wyvern14 Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Artist's Corner
I've been fooling around with my graphic tablet this week instead of playing Wow, since my Internet decided to make some freegames on me, and came up with a small comic for fun. I read Penny Arcade and I'm quite the gamer gal, so consider this an hommage to your art guys! You've been making me laugh every week for a looooooong time!


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  • Synthetic OrangeSynthetic Orange Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Oh joy, another gaming comic. At least the art style is competent, if derivative.

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  • Aaron LeeAaron Lee Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    First off, welcome to the forums! We get these type of comics pretty regularly, so forgive the tendency of jaded remarks in regards to gaming themed comics. Honestly, aside from the overdone gaming aspect, the art is actually very clean, something I don't see around here too often (aside from the old pros), so that's a nice bonus. It's a bit plain in composition though, mainly in that the last two panels are painfully similar. I realize it's an easy temptation to reuse bits of the art throughout the panels (even Gabe does it), but there are ways to change it enough to be less obvious.

    Lastly, the writing could definitely use some work. It's a bit stale, and the humor falls short of even a smirk. Artwise though, you're definitely on the right track, and aside from a few writing/theme issues, you have something nice on your hands.

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  • wyvern14wyvern14 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Ty for the welcome. The art could have been a lot better indeed, this was done quickly as a test with my tablet in about 1h. I don't usually draw comics, so I'm kinda searching for the right amount of detailing to use without passing 24h on a small strip (the whole "I'm still exploring the style" dilemna).

    The writing ain't witty enough I'll admit wholehearthedly, that's the 1st idea that came to mind tonight when I sat in front of the comp with my Wacom. The theme I had in mind in general was the fact that I'm a gaming gal (not the only one out there of course, but my entourage still find it a rarity) and quite geeky as well (I work in IT, I play D&D, I DDR, my friends are game designers, etc.). I guess I'll think on it a bit before I do the next strip :)

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  • icebergiceberg Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Don't you EVER even THINK about using COMIC SANS AGAIN. Holy god all mighty.

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  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Get a grip, man.

    Or... like... visit Blambot!

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Why is BONER censored. And hell isn't? I find this unnecessary.

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  • CheebahawkCheebahawk Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I must agree, avoid Comic Sans like the plague.

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  • Aaron LeeAaron Lee Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I didn't even notice the comic sans. I think I have a natural aversion to it.

    Yes, Blambot.com will take care of all your comic font needs, for free.

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  • DMACDMAC Come at me, bro! Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2007
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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    It took me a while to figure out what was going on on the first panel.

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  • Grim OutlookGrim Outlook Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    why are we hailing the wicked...?

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  • PROXPROX Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    This comic is very generic. It's also not funny. Also the drawing is bad.

    What does it have going for it?
    -Tolerable Color
    -Readable Font

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You forget correct spelling!

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I'm very reminded of /gu comics

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  • vascyvascy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Well, the comic looks nice enough.

    The first panel is kind of dull really. A mute button up close doesn't seem that interesting to look at really.
    The joke didn't make me laugh, so that needs work.

    I like all the detail on the girls hair :)

    Are you going to be making other comics on a regular basis or was this just a one-off comic for fun?

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  • wyvern14wyvern14 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    vascy wrote: »
    Well, the comic looks nice enough.

    The first panel is kind of dull really. A mute button up close doesn't seem that interesting to look at really.
    The joke didn't make me laugh, so that needs work.

    I like all the detail on the girls hair :)

    Are you going to be making other comics on a regular basis or was this just a one-off comic for fun?

    I'll work on making more, that's why I posted it for feedback. Some people I know will be giving me storyboards for the next few ones to help me with the scripting so that will help too.

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  • wyvern14wyvern14 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Doodles from work this time. Script comes from someone. Reused some elements since I made this fairly quick just to get a feel for the environment.
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  • The One 52The One 52 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    wyvern14 wrote: »
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    The internet does not qualify as grounds where you can act like a bouquet of dick.
  • wyvern14wyvern14 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Yes, the 1st one was an hommage of sorts to that cartoon.

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2007
    Along with some more basic anatomy, and understanding of light, study facial expressions a whole ton. Both from life and others peoples interpretations. You cant ignore this while making a comic, a subtle or extreme expression that is just perfect can make or break a comic.

    For example, your last comic wouldn't need "Grr" at all if her expression matched the sound (sneering, or something like it) Good gesture and expression can turn "meh" into gold. You have to know when to leave words out and let the face talk (even if the script is coming from some place else.)

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  • HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Also, the THS (Talking Head Syndrome) really bugs me. There's a lot of copy pasting going on, which is lazy drawing. I know it's hard to come up with three different camera angles or character positions every comic, but the end result looks a lot better.

    I hate to issue a double standard. I know our friend Gabe does it, but he's just too damn good, and he's been at it for a long time. The rest of us can THS all we want when we get where he is. But for now, we gotta be more dynamic.

    I really hope this post hasn't offended you. I did a single THS strip, and it felt crappy. (Not only that, but my joke was too similar to one of theirs. I wish I could throw that particular strip out the window, but it adds to the process that is learning.)

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Why does the chick look like she is thirty-something in that new comic?

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  • lifeartistlifeartist Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    To go a little further on what Iruka said, and from what it sounds like, you are on your way to getting the art down with practice, it's the writing and planning of the comic that is your trouble. For that, I would recommend Making Comics by Scott McCloud. Fun read in general, and you could gain something from it possibly IMHO:)

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  • Anthrax! Please.Anthrax! Please. Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The One 52 wrote: »

    HA HA HA OH GOD HA HA.

    Yeah. Wow. So other than that homage, I think what most people have said here is quite right. Your art is competent, but your writing appeals only to a select niche of nerds, and frankly, is kinda boring. If you want to get the attention of your readers, you're going to have to make them see something they don't get elsewhere. Penny arcade, VG cats, and CAD all provide the same kind of humour. Unfortunately, at least one of those comics sucks. CAD aside, you need to spice up your writing or your art or your plot or something, because right now you're essentially trying to hatch an egg in a hen house and expecting it to be unique.

    So, rethink concept? Read Making Comics? Learn from critique? These are the things I can suggest, and have been suggested. Rock on and keep learning.

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  • HewnHewn Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I normally never even post in these forums, but sometimes I lurk.

    I just wanted to say your comic shows lots of potential. Everything people have said so far is true, but the very first Penny Arcade strips are a far cry from what they produce today. You'll evolve too, long as you have a desire to.

    Keep working on it. But a word of advice on the theme: don't limit yourself to a WoW comic, if that is your intention. Eventually that ship will sail and you're limiting your fan base tremendously. Some of my favorite Penny Arcade comics are those that can be understood by anybody, and I share them with friends that may not be up on the latest games.

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  • D90D90 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    My advice would be directed towards the writing.
    Whether you're a gamer or a non-gamer, a comic fan or not a comic fan, it just isn't funny.
    For example, even a frame of her looking annoyed and actually saying "Go to hell" would be funnier than her looking retarded and thinking "1 ticket to hell...NOW!"

    And that's not saying much.
    In fact, that's saying very very little.

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    Everything I could've thought to say has been covered, I wanted to add that when I tell my healers they give me boners, they do like it.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    wyvern14 wrote: »
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    Is that pubic hair in her coffee?

    EDIT:
    Also, is the guy's pants giving him MBOS™?

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  • lyriumlyrium Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Is that pubic hair in her coffee?

    EDIT:
    Also, is the guy's pants giving him MBOSâ„¢?

    I thought the coffee had hair, too!
    I didn't notice the pants though, just that the guy's arm is too short (and maybe paralyzed...)
    The murloc doll was a nice touch.

    Everything I could've thought to say has been covered, I wanted to add that when I tell my healers they give me boners, they do like it.

    It may be different for you though, because one of you healers is your girlfriend ;-)
    Come to think of it though, I wouldn't doubt that you've also told that to some other people in the guild...
    But I won't let myself be jealous of WoW

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  • D90D90 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Once again (I didn't see another one had been uploaded);

    Joke. Not. Funny.

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  • The LittleMan In The BoatThe LittleMan In The Boat Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/joystiq/videos/onyxiawipe50dkpminus.swf

    BTW, NSFW Do not listen to it if you are at work.

    Sorry, taking a joke an old joke and putting into your comic is kind of ... lame? I don't know, it's like you are just recycling it and it wasn't that funny to begin with, but whatever.

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  • D90D90 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    What the shit was that?

    Is that so WoW specific that only WoW players can find it funny, or is it just not funny to anyone?

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  • LlyLly Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    50 DKP minus is a pretty famous thing on these ere intarwebs. It is wow centered but it has spread way past that. It's basically some raid in Molten Core (a raid instance in WoW) with this insane dude over teamspeak shouting totally confusing instructions to everyone ... although i'm sure to raiders it makes perfect sense, i hated raiding ... anyway, then it all goes wrong and he starts screaming at someone in the wrong place about 50 dkp minus. It's kinda amusing but not worth the worldwide hype it has gotten.

    edit: And no the comic isn't funny in the slightest, even to those "in the know".

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  • core tacticcore tactic Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Even a Leroy Jenkins joke would be better, and more people would get it.

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  • LlyLly Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Or a barrens stylee chuck norris joke. (god i hate those!)

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Develop your main character beyond "hot, sassy, female gamer"

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  • D90D90 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Develop your main character beyond "hot, sassy, female gamer"

    That's a very good point, actually.
    She's very two-dimensional.

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  • KioliaKiolia Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    For the sake of accuracy, the "50 DKP Minus" recording was Onyxia, but yes, a 40-member raid where lots will go wrong when people don't pay attention, and the recording involved a leader with an accent screaming verbal abuse without regard to grammar.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    D90 wrote: »
    Develop your main character beyond "hot, sassy, female gamer"

    That's a very good point, actually.
    She's very two-dimensional.


    She also looks like Rogue from X-men, only without the sexy, and just in regards to the hair. You were just trying to make her stand out from the pack but there are far better ways to do this than dying random locks of her hair.

    This technically doesn't really help you much, but it was just bugging me.

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I just want to say its brave of you to post a comic in this forum. It isn't easy. Try to take some of the advice you get without being too offended. I wouldn't give up though. That is the only sure way to fail. And besides, I like this comic a bit..though I have not played WoW since a few months after its release, and I am not that big a fan of it.

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