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[BSG] Exodus Game 17 - Human Victory

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I don't know about the QBing bit.
    38th got everyone to put their first Teachery cards into a check to fail it.
    Which seemed really good for the humans because then the Treachery cards could be easily tracked still.

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    I want to play next time this one comes up!

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  • tosoraktosorak Registered User regular
    Yeah but 38th told us all to put them in, which resulted in adding a basestar and we all drew more treachery cards. I thought it was very Cylony of him, because we ended up with the same number of bad cards even though it was 'helping' the check. I was suspicious of almost everyone - until wildcat shot the admiral proving he was human.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Well, yeah, I was happy to add a basestar to the board.
    It still seemed like a good way of limiting Sabs.

  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    There aren't really any special ways for cylons to figure out who the other cylons are - gotta do it the same the way the humans do. If a check is spiked you at least know if you did as well so you can at least start to narrow it down.

    Spreading XO's around to humans the table is still uncertain of can give them the opportunity to make a play will do it; but as long as your both unrevealed there isn't a ton of added benefit of knowing who the other cylon is. Cylons really want to setup just a couple of turns of everything going bad at once, too many plates in the air.

    The dream is baltar using his OPG on a cyclon and telling the table they are human - outside of that there isn't a way for the two cylons to confirm to each who they are

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 2022
    Mm
    So XO on kime (the first time) is a reasonable move then.
    He was in a position that he could use it feasibly as a human, but could flip if he wasn't.

    Although I did forget about the nukes being a thing that was a thing.

    (Looking back, I must have thrown away a second XO at some point before, which was probably better held)

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Human play as a cylon is all about appearing helpful but not actually doing much

    Finding out who your cylon partner is is only useful for an XO reveal turn (or so you can avoid accusing them), unless you have a title you cant actually hurt the humans much unrevealed directly, you're betting that the extra crisis and extra check spiking you can do will hurt more than an actual hostile action

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 2022
    So I should have immediately flipped.
    Cause no real negative cards in my draw to help spike things.

    Like I considered this at the beginning of the game, but I didn't know just how many checks needed Pol.

    And I couldn't spike with Pol unless there was Pol still in the Destiny deck and I still had my single Tac to feasibly 'play' in.
    Otherwise I was really the only source of malicious Pol.

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited July 2022
    I did expect an earlyish flip from you yes. Your hand was already empty, your cylon card was one of the less situational ones (wildcat got -jump prep) and 3 Pol is quite poor for sabotage, being both very common in checks and a little obvious it would be you if a pile of pol gets dumped

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 2022
    Thought it would be bad play to flip before 6 distance, when I could contaminate known good by dumping loyalty cards on them.
    And that it would flipping would allow the 'everyone gets an action' card play. And prevent XOs between robuds.
    As well as seeming counter to the spirit of the game, by eliminating the guesswork immediately.

    (As well as not really knowing how much I would be bleeding Pol to help people fly the ship; though it was mentioned)

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    Feel like revealing before the sleeper phase isn't too common - just because your maybe hoping the pres/admiral turns cylon; so your just being inefficient until then.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Does the reveal we are talking about put a centurion on the boarding track? Without a Quorum card to kill them they are really hard to kill if I remember correctly.

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    authorization of brutal force was the starting quorum card sadly

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 2022
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Does the reveal we are talking about put a centurion on the boarding track? Without a Quorum card to kill them they are really hard to kill if I remember correctly.

    How so? Seemed like you just took pot shots at it from the Armory.
    It's destroyed on a 7+, so 5+ with the Tac card that no-one seemed to be using.
    And you had the 'make a check succeed' card after scooping all the cards after your demise.

    Like I went and read through a bit of Phyphor's source code to try and figure out card probabilities without having played the game ever.
    And it just seemed to me that the Centurion Cylon card was the weakest, and perhaps designed so that not all Cylons would flip, thus giving players space to play around the possibility that not all non-flipping Cylons have the 'if you kill me, you get penalized' Cylon card.

    Which . Doesn't make sense because executions are an expansion thing.

    But still, the Centurion only seemed to waste a player's action, unlike every other Cylon card which drains resources, and seemed like an utter waste of my action.

    Although this game uses an eight-sided die, doesn't it
    I keep thinking it's a ten-sided die.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 2022
    Yeah, it's a d8.
    Might be good to change the descriptions of the location actions to the range on the die (7-8+) rather than just the target (7+) for PbP

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