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  • ZibblsnrtZibblsnrt Registered User regular
    LostNinja wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    It might be he wants other people in the crosshairs to know what the DoJ has on them

    That and delay, delay, delay. There's no doubt that the committee has tens if not hundred of thousands of pages. Someone is going to have sift through all of that, see what can and cannot be released, and then gin up even more documentation for why. This could potentially take years to get through.

    Meanwhile, the court will reasonably deny this request and tell him to get on with it. In doing so, he'll get to claim to be the victim of the system and that the system is hiding things from people. Which is a standard line for his sort of conspiring mongering jackass.

    I think this is the most likely reason. Bannon isn’t a true believer and cares more about getting himself out of it than protecting anyone else. Delay, hope congress eventually flips, and walk away.

    He might not be a true believer in Trumpism specifically, but he definitely is when it comes to the whole "the US government needs to be replaced, one way or another, with an authoritarian ethnonationalist regime" thing. Right now protecting Republicans advances that, especially since they're in favour of coup attempts as a matter of party policy now.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Bannon also believes a theory that the “world order” is replaced via revolution every 80 years and Trump was the leader for this version (~80 years since ww2)

  • ZibblsnrtZibblsnrt Registered User regular
    Ugh, I'd forgotten about that one. Heaven save us from Rigidly Deterministic Laws of History Totally Exist And Totally Have Predictive Powers Which Prophesy My Specific Preferred Worldviews nitwits.

  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    Bannon also believes a theory that the “world order” is replaced via revolution every 80 years and Trump was the leader for this version (~80 years since ww2)

    I mean...he may not be wrong. Trump definitely kicked something off that was buried deep in the American psyche.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Bannon also believes a theory that the “world order” is replaced via revolution every 80 years and Trump was the leader for this version (~80 years since ww2)

    I mean...he may not be wrong. Trump definitely kicked something off that was buried deep in the American psyche.

    If he's arguing about global realignment then Brexit beats him by a few months.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Bannon also believes a theory that the “world order” is replaced via revolution every 80 years and Trump was the leader for this version (~80 years since ww2)

    I mean...he may not be wrong. Trump definitely kicked something off that was buried deep in the American psyche.

    If he's arguing about global realignment then Brexit beats him by a few months.

    You can do this for any timeframe and find and fit whatever events you want to “prove” it

  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    Bannon also believes a theory that the “world order” is replaced via revolution every 80 years and Trump was the leader for this version (~80 years since ww2)

    Oh, that’s the stupidest thing ever and also another way of saying that humans live about 80 years.

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Bannon also believes a theory that the “world order” is replaced via revolution every 80 years and Trump was the leader for this version (~80 years since ww2)

    I mean...he may not be wrong. Trump definitely kicked something off that was buried deep in the American psyche.

    If he's arguing about global realignment then Brexit beats him by a few months.

    You can do this for any timeframe and find and fit whatever events you want to “prove” it

    From what I recall, the 'history cycles' thing is that there are multiple ones that recur and 80 years is when they all align, like a giant cicada swarm. But that also means that virtually every ~4-8 year period can be said to be a part of one of those cycles because yeah. Same way that astrology can "accurately" describe you since you have 3 separate month signs and that literally covers 1/4 of the year/ humanity. So anything that doesn't fit the one likely fits one of the other two. Especially when it's something vague like 'is stubborn'.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Bannon also believes a theory that the “world order” is replaced via revolution every 80 years and Trump was the leader for this version (~80 years since ww2)

    I mean...he may not be wrong. Trump definitely kicked something off that was buried deep in the American psyche.

    If he's arguing about global realignment then Brexit beats him by a few months.

    Bannon was instrumental in the Brexit campaign as well.

  • ZibblsnrtZibblsnrt Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Bannon also believes a theory that the “world order” is replaced via revolution every 80 years and Trump was the leader for this version (~80 years since ww2)

    I mean...he may not be wrong. Trump definitely kicked something off that was buried deep in the American psyche.

    If he's arguing about global realignment then Brexit beats him by a few months.

    You can do this for any timeframe and find and fit whatever events you want to “prove” it

    From what I recall, the 'history cycles' thing is that there are multiple ones that recur and 80 years is when they all align, like a giant cicada swarm. But that also means that virtually every ~4-8 year period can be said to be a part of one of those cycles because yeah. Same way that astrology can "accurately" describe you since you have 3 separate month signs and that literally covers 1/4 of the year/ humanity. So anything that doesn't fit the one likely fits one of the other two. Especially when it's something vague like 'is stubborn'.

    Yeah, it gets sillier and more specific the longer you look at it - like there's a "crisis" every 80 years which can only be solved by the generation that's just coming into adulthood then because the previous three generations primed them to be the heroic saviours, etc et etc.

    The best part is that when Strauss and Howe were coming up with the whole idea in the first place, they admit that they had some parts of history just skip one of the four cyclic generations because it made their general theory fit more nicely.

    Also, it requires people to ignore that a world outside of the United States exists, because the generations/crises/heroes/etc that theiry pushes exist only in an American context.

    The whole thing is amazingly dumb, and it always throws me for a bit of loop whenever I hear some ideologue or another is still giving it the time of day.

  • XantomasXantomas Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Bannon also believes a theory that the “world order” is replaced via revolution every 80 years and Trump was the leader for this version (~80 years since ww2)

    I mean...he may not be wrong. Trump definitely kicked something off that was buried deep in the American psyche.

    If he's arguing about global realignment then Brexit beats him by a few months.

    Bannon was instrumental in the Brexit campaign as well.

    And if I recall he was also getting around in Europe linking up far right political organizations and talking about a wider white nationalist fascist movement. I'll bet Bannon just thinks Trump is a useful idiot and doesn't believe in the Q or god emperor stuff any more than required to further his own nazi goals.

    That makes Bannon devoted to Trump and willing to go to prison for him and not be entirely out to save his own skin. But it's for a bigger cause than just Trump himself.

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Zibblsnrt wrote: »
    Also, it requires people to ignore that a world outside of the United States exists, because the generations/crises/heroes/etc that theiry pushes exist only in an American context.

    But that part's easy, even the norm.

  • Mathew BurrackMathew Burrack CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Zibblsnrt wrote: »
    Also, it requires people to ignore that a world outside of the United States exists, because the generations/crises/heroes/etc that theiry pushes exist only in an American context.

    But that part's easy, even the norm.

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    "Let's take a look at the scores! The girls are at the square root of Pi, while the boys are still at a crudely drawn picture of a duck. Clearly, it's anybody's game!"
  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Of the Second Foundation nothing can be known, for it guards the secrets of psycohistory.

    Sic transit gloria mundi.
  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    More on the heap of "yes it was a planned coup": rally organizers were using burner phones for their "high level communications" with Trump staffers.

    But also an element of "this only failed because of their complete useless incompetence and stupidity": they thought it was the height of cleverness that they paid for them with cash only, and not with any sort of more incriminating method, as if this wasn't like below level 101 in criming, kindergarten level education on doing a crime. If any of these dumbasses had the slightest level of real competence, they would've overthrown Congress easily. Our entire political system doesn't even have the stability of a house of cards.

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Mayabird wrote: »
    More on the heap of "yes it was a planned coup": rally organizers were using burner phones for their "high level communications" with Trump staffers.

    But also an element of "this only failed because of their complete useless incompetence and stupidity": they thought it was the height of cleverness that they paid for them with cash only, and not with any sort of more incriminating method, as if this wasn't like below level 101 in criming, kindergarten level education on doing a crime. If any of these dumbasses had the slightest level of real competence, they would've overthrown Congress easily. Our entire political system doesn't even have the stability of a house of cards.

    The standards for getting away with being corrupt and/or criminal have been pushed so low over the last few decades that people have forgotten how to actually be good at it.

  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Well sure - they never got punished, so why would they learn to do better?

  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    Mayabird wrote: »
    More on the heap of "yes it was a planned coup": rally organizers were using burner phones for their "high level communications" with Trump staffers.

    But also an element of "this only failed because of their complete useless incompetence and stupidity": they thought it was the height of cleverness that they paid for them with cash only, and not with any sort of more incriminating method, as if this wasn't like below level 101 in criming, kindergarten level education on doing a crime. If any of these dumbasses had the slightest level of real competence, they would've overthrown Congress easily. Our entire political system doesn't even have the stability of a house of cards.

    The standards for getting away with being corrupt and/or criminal have been pushed so low over the last few decades that people have forgotten how to actually be good at it.

    Well yeah, what did you expect? Hard working corrupt people?

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    jothki wrote: »
    Mayabird wrote: »
    More on the heap of "yes it was a planned coup": rally organizers were using burner phones for their "high level communications" with Trump staffers.

    But also an element of "this only failed because of their complete useless incompetence and stupidity": they thought it was the height of cleverness that they paid for them with cash only, and not with any sort of more incriminating method, as if this wasn't like below level 101 in criming, kindergarten level education on doing a crime. If any of these dumbasses had the slightest level of real competence, they would've overthrown Congress easily. Our entire political system doesn't even have the stability of a house of cards.

    The standards for getting away with being corrupt and/or criminal have been pushed so low over the last few decades that people have forgotten how to actually be good at it.

    As County Executive Spiro Agnew would just pull open a drawer on his desk and leave the room after asking developers what kind of zoning variance they needed for their project. Toward the end of the scheduled meeting he'd come back, look in the drawer, and make a determination.

    He became governor of Maryland and then Vice President.

    moniker on
  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Mayabird wrote: »
    More on the heap of "yes it was a planned coup": rally organizers were using burner phones for their "high level communications" with Trump staffers.

    But also an element of "this only failed because of their complete useless incompetence and stupidity": they thought it was the height of cleverness that they paid for them with cash only, and not with any sort of more incriminating method, as if this wasn't like below level 101 in criming, kindergarten level education on doing a crime. If any of these dumbasses had the slightest level of real competence, they would've overthrown Congress easily. Our entire political system doesn't even have the stability of a house of cards.

    The standards for getting away with being corrupt and/or criminal have been pushed so low over the last few decades that people have forgotten how to actually be good at it.

    As County Executive Spiro Agnew would just pull open a drawer on his desk and leave the room after asking developers what kind of zoning variance they needed for their project. Toward the end of the scheduled meeting he'd come back, look in the drawer, and make a determination.

    He became governor of Maryland and then Vice President.

    He eventually was charged, and resigned in disgrace due to pressure from his fellow Republicans.

    And the Republicans have learned one lesson since. Party over country.

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    Mayabird wrote: »
    More on the heap of "yes it was a planned coup": rally organizers were using burner phones for their "high level communications" with Trump staffers.

    But also an element of "this only failed because of their complete useless incompetence and stupidity": they thought it was the height of cleverness that they paid for them with cash only, and not with any sort of more incriminating method, as if this wasn't like below level 101 in criming, kindergarten level education on doing a crime. If any of these dumbasses had the slightest level of real competence, they would've overthrown Congress easily. Our entire political system doesn't even have the stability of a house of cards.

    The standards for getting away with being corrupt and/or criminal have been pushed so low over the last few decades that people have forgotten how to actually be good at it.

    As County Executive Spiro Agnew would just pull open a drawer on his desk and leave the room after asking developers what kind of zoning variance they needed for their project. Toward the end of the scheduled meeting he'd come back, look in the drawer, and make a determination.

    He became governor of Maryland and then Vice President.

    He eventually was charged, and resigned in disgrace due to pressure from his fellow Republicans.

    And the Republicans have learned one lesson since. Party over country.

    Sure, but it's not like standards for political extortion and bribery were all that high in the past and we've fallen to those with feet of clay.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    The thing that's fundamentally changed is not that people have gotten better or worse at corruption, it's that one party has figured out that they don't need to care about corruption because their voters won't stop voting for them because of it.

    Like so many other problems in the US political system, what it comes down to is that it's hard to solve problems when half the political system is perfectly ok with those problems and their being ok with it doesn't really effect their electoral prospects because the voters won't punish them for it.

    There is ultimately only so much that can be done about the 1/6 coup attempt when Republicans can still openly support it without electoral consequence.

  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    The thing that's fundamentally changed is not that people have gotten better or worse at corruption, it's that one party has figured out that they don't need to care about corruption because their voters won't stop voting for them because of it.

    Like so many other problems in the US political system, what it comes down to is that it's hard to solve problems when half the political system is perfectly ok with those problems and their being ok with it doesn't really effect their electoral prospects because the voters won't punish them for it.

    There is ultimately only so much that can be done about the 1/6 coup attempt when Republicans can still openly support it without electoral consequence.

    Not even 'just' support it.

    The Republican party has closed ranks and the few that are actually standing up to it are being summarily drummed out of the party. If it were just a blind eye on the part of most of them and not a lockstep purge it would be better than what we've got.

    We had a few Republicans surprise me in their integrity around the election and post-1/6, but the party is doing everything possible to make sure that never happens again, and the mask is off.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    zagdrob wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    The thing that's fundamentally changed is not that people have gotten better or worse at corruption, it's that one party has figured out that they don't need to care about corruption because their voters won't stop voting for them because of it.

    Like so many other problems in the US political system, what it comes down to is that it's hard to solve problems when half the political system is perfectly ok with those problems and their being ok with it doesn't really effect their electoral prospects because the voters won't punish them for it.

    There is ultimately only so much that can be done about the 1/6 coup attempt when Republicans can still openly support it without electoral consequence.

    Not even 'just' support it.

    The Republican party has closed ranks and the few that are actually standing up to it are being summarily drummed out of the party. If it were just a blind eye on the part of most of them and not a lockstep purge it would be better than what we've got.

    We had a few Republicans surprise me in their integrity around the election and post-1/6, but the party is doing everything possible to make sure that never happens again, and the mask is off.

    It's not the party that's really important here though, it's that the voters are ok with it. If Republicans closed ranks on this and then lost, that would change something. But instead they are likely to win harder.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    zagdrob wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    The thing that's fundamentally changed is not that people have gotten better or worse at corruption, it's that one party has figured out that they don't need to care about corruption because their voters won't stop voting for them because of it.

    Like so many other problems in the US political system, what it comes down to is that it's hard to solve problems when half the political system is perfectly ok with those problems and their being ok with it doesn't really effect their electoral prospects because the voters won't punish them for it.

    There is ultimately only so much that can be done about the 1/6 coup attempt when Republicans can still openly support it without electoral consequence.

    Not even 'just' support it.

    The Republican party has closed ranks and the few that are actually standing up to it are being summarily drummed out of the party. If it were just a blind eye on the part of most of them and not a lockstep purge it would be better than what we've got.

    We had a few Republicans surprise me in their integrity around the election and post-1/6, but the party is doing everything possible to make sure that never happens again, and the mask is off.

    It's not the party that's really important here though, it's that the voters are ok with it. If Republicans closed ranks on this and then lost, that would change something. But instead they are likely to win harder.

    Well, the voter suppression, gerrymandering, and other methods of minoritarian control implemented by Republicans at the state level are helping with that as well.

  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    zagdrob wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    The thing that's fundamentally changed is not that people have gotten better or worse at corruption, it's that one party has figured out that they don't need to care about corruption because their voters won't stop voting for them because of it.

    Like so many other problems in the US political system, what it comes down to is that it's hard to solve problems when half the political system is perfectly ok with those problems and their being ok with it doesn't really effect their electoral prospects because the voters won't punish them for it.

    There is ultimately only so much that can be done about the 1/6 coup attempt when Republicans can still openly support it without electoral consequence.

    Not even 'just' support it.

    The Republican party has closed ranks and the few that are actually standing up to it are being summarily drummed out of the party. If it were just a blind eye on the part of most of them and not a lockstep purge it would be better than what we've got.

    We had a few Republicans surprise me in their integrity around the election and post-1/6, but the party is doing everything possible to make sure that never happens again, and the mask is off.

    It's not the party that's really important here though, it's that the voters are ok with it. If Republicans closed ranks on this and then lost, that would change something. But instead they are likely to win harder.

    Well, the voter suppression, gerrymandering, and other methods of minoritarian control implemented by Republicans at the state level are helping with that as well.

    Don't forget the massive propaganda network push and orchestrated destruction of trust of journalism, and delegitimization of anyone not conservative that has these people believing the shit they do.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    zagdrob wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    The thing that's fundamentally changed is not that people have gotten better or worse at corruption, it's that one party has figured out that they don't need to care about corruption because their voters won't stop voting for them because of it.

    Like so many other problems in the US political system, what it comes down to is that it's hard to solve problems when half the political system is perfectly ok with those problems and their being ok with it doesn't really effect their electoral prospects because the voters won't punish them for it.

    There is ultimately only so much that can be done about the 1/6 coup attempt when Republicans can still openly support it without electoral consequence.

    Not even 'just' support it.

    The Republican party has closed ranks and the few that are actually standing up to it are being summarily drummed out of the party. If it were just a blind eye on the part of most of them and not a lockstep purge it would be better than what we've got.

    We had a few Republicans surprise me in their integrity around the election and post-1/6, but the party is doing everything possible to make sure that never happens again, and the mask is off.

    It's not the party that's really important here though, it's that the voters are ok with it. If Republicans closed ranks on this and then lost, that would change something. But instead they are likely to win harder.

    Well, the voter suppression, gerrymandering, and other methods of minoritarian control implemented by Republicans at the state level are helping with that as well.

    That stuff is in the end just on the margins though. It's not like there's a massive surge of former Republican voters rejecting their embrace of the coup attempt that are being kept from voting.

  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    zagdrob wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    The thing that's fundamentally changed is not that people have gotten better or worse at corruption, it's that one party has figured out that they don't need to care about corruption because their voters won't stop voting for them because of it.

    Like so many other problems in the US political system, what it comes down to is that it's hard to solve problems when half the political system is perfectly ok with those problems and their being ok with it doesn't really effect their electoral prospects because the voters won't punish them for it.

    There is ultimately only so much that can be done about the 1/6 coup attempt when Republicans can still openly support it without electoral consequence.

    Not even 'just' support it.

    The Republican party has closed ranks and the few that are actually standing up to it are being summarily drummed out of the party. If it were just a blind eye on the part of most of them and not a lockstep purge it would be better than what we've got.

    We had a few Republicans surprise me in their integrity around the election and post-1/6, but the party is doing everything possible to make sure that never happens again, and the mask is off.

    It's not the party that's really important here though, it's that the voters are ok with it. If Republicans closed ranks on this and then lost, that would change something. But instead they are likely to win harder.

    Undecided voters see all this and think "Voting for them anyway because gas prices are going up."

  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows cooperating with Jan. 6 committee
    Mark Meadows, former president Donald Trump’s White House chief of staff at the time of the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, is cooperating with the House committee investigating the pro-Trump insurrection, committee chairman Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.) said Tuesday.

    “Mr. Meadows has been engaging with the Select Committee through his attorney,” Thompson said in a statement. “He has produced records to the committee and will soon appear for an initial deposition.”

    Thompson, in the statement, said the House committee “expects all witnesses, including Mr. Meadows, to provide all information requested and that the Select Committee is lawfully entitled to receive.”

    “The committee will continue to assess his degree of compliance with our subpoena after the deposition,” Thompson concluded.

    Meadows was subpoenaed by the committee at the end of September and has been “engaged” with investigators to negotiate the terms of his deposition and turning over of documents. The pace of these discussions, however, caused the committee to weigh more aggressive measures against him.

    So I guess maybe arresting one did its job freaking the others out.

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  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    I’m of the mind that folks should have a week to figure their shit out before Marshals track them down and give them a choice between answering congress or going to jail.

  • ZibblsnrtZibblsnrt Registered User regular
    If I was subpoenaed for something I'm pretty sure I'd have until the date of my required appearance to figure my shit out and would start running into serious legal penalties five minutes past that point. That sounds about right for these guys, too.

  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    Shocking nobody, it looks like Sidney Powell's "Defend the Republic" fundraising group might have been.... *pause for effect* a scam!


    "NEW: Prosecutors demanded records of Sidney Powell’s fundraising groups as part of criminal probe "
    - Emma Brown writes for WaPo.

    The article mentioned there is paywalled, because WaPo, but there's another report from Daily Beast that appears to have similar details.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/feds-are-asking-questions-about-sidney-powell-and-her-pro-trump-group?source=articles&via=rss
    Defending the Republic’s funds weren’t going towards the pro-Trump goals donors likely envisioned, according to Byrne. Instead, he claimed they were spent on paying legal bills for Powell, who has faced court disciplinary issues and a daunting billion-dollar defamation lawsuit from Dominion Voting Systems.
    "Byrne" is Patrick Byrne, formerly CEO for "Defend the Republic"

    I just can't believe it was all a grift! Wait, no, the opposite.

  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    I’m of the mind that folks should have a week to figure their shit out before Marshals track them down and give them a choice between answering congress or going to jail.

    I think the idea of a weeks grace period is more than any fascist coup person would give anyone else.

    Also that performing some idea of correct amount of time before trial to lie is something the fascist coup person wouldn't give and doesn't deserve.

  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    To be clear as well with my suggestion: when the marshals find you they aren’t going to be polite about it; it doesn’t matter if you’re in the middle of taking a dump they are hauling you to the car and an answer of anything other then “let’s go talk to congress” gets you a trip to jail.

  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Zibblsnrt wrote: »
    If I was subpoenaed for something I'm pretty sure I'd have until the date of my required appearance to figure my shit out and would start running into serious legal penalties five minutes past that point. That sounds about right for these guys, too.

    The Committee is following bog standard Federal Code of Civil Procedure (or Criminal Procedure, depending on particulars) not just making shit up ad hoc. You would have the same legal rights and protections to file for delays and reconsiderations.

  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    In light of the Meadows co-operation news, looks like either Jeffrey Clark decided he'd take his chances.


    "22 page Jeffrey Clark contempt report to be considered tomorrow by the @January6thCmte is out. "
    *PDF attached*
    - Haley Talbot is a Washington reporter for NBC.

    Jeffrey Clark is the fucko lawyer that appears to have been responsible for the effort to further corrupt/weaponize the DOJ after Barr left, and tried to force Rosen out when he pushed back on Trump's big lie.

    Part of his play was a draft letter from the DOJ to various Georgia officials saying that there were "significant concerns" about the election validity, and requesting they reconvence their legislature to look into it.

    He also apparently opposed the DNI that there was no foreign interference with voting machines, during an intelligence briefing, saying "a Dominion machine accessed the Internet through a smart thermostat with a net connection trail leading back to China.".

    Just if you're unclear if he's playacting or if he's a sincere whackadoodle.

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    In light of the Meadows co-operation news, looks like either Jeffrey Clark decided he'd take his chances.


    "22 page Jeffrey Clark contempt report to be considered tomorrow by the @January6thCmte is out. "
    *PDF attached*
    - Haley Talbot is a Washington reporter for NBC.

    Jeffrey Clark is the fucko lawyer that appears to have been responsible for the effort to further corrupt/weaponize the DOJ after Barr left, and tried to force Rosen out when he pushed back on Trump's big lie.

    Part of his play was a draft letter from the DOJ to various Georgia officials saying that there were "significant concerns" about the election validity, and requesting they reconvence their legislature to look into it.

    He also apparently opposed the DNI that there was no foreign interference with voting machines, during an intelligence briefing, saying "a Dominion machine accessed the Internet through a smart thermostat with a net connection trail leading back to China.".

    Just if you're unclear if he's playacting or if he's a sincere whackadoodle.

    Is it bad that, with everything you just said, I still can't tell the difference?

  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    In light of the Meadows co-operation news, looks like either Jeffrey Clark decided he'd take his chances.


    "22 page Jeffrey Clark contempt report to be considered tomorrow by the @January6thCmte is out. "
    *PDF attached*
    - Haley Talbot is a Washington reporter for NBC.

    Jeffrey Clark is the fucko lawyer that appears to have been responsible for the effort to further corrupt/weaponize the DOJ after Barr left, and tried to force Rosen out when he pushed back on Trump's big lie.

    Part of his play was a draft letter from the DOJ to various Georgia officials saying that there were "significant concerns" about the election validity, and requesting they reconvence their legislature to look into it.

    He also apparently opposed the DNI that there was no foreign interference with voting machines, during an intelligence briefing, saying "a Dominion machine accessed the Internet through a smart thermostat with a net connection trail leading back to China.".

    Just if you're unclear if he's playacting or if he's a sincere whackadoodle.

    Is it bad that, with everything you just said, I still can't tell the difference?

    If it was in a public statement, or an open meeting, I could chalk up "China hacked the voting machines through the thermostat" to be performative.

    It's another thing if it's being said in an intel briefing (which should be the most secure and sober of all White House meetings), especially as a statement of "fact" rather than an inquiry of the theory.

  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited December 2021
    MorganV wrote: »
    Shocking nobody, it looks like Sidney Powell's "Defend the Republic" fundraising group might have been.... *pause for effect* a scam!


    "NEW: Prosecutors demanded records of Sidney Powell’s fundraising groups as part of criminal probe "
    - Emma Brown writes for WaPo.

    The article mentioned there is paywalled, because WaPo, but there's another report from Daily Beast that appears to have similar details.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/feds-are-asking-questions-about-sidney-powell-and-her-pro-trump-group?source=articles&via=rss
    Defending the Republic’s funds weren’t going towards the pro-Trump goals donors likely envisioned, according to Byrne. Instead, he claimed they were spent on paying legal bills for Powell, who has faced court disciplinary issues and a daunting billion-dollar defamation lawsuit from Dominion Voting Systems.
    "Byrne" is Patrick Byrne, formerly CEO for "Defend the Republic"

    I just can't believe it was all a grift! Wait, no, the opposite.

    All sorts of juicy gossip in that daily beast article. Her, Lin Wood, and Byrne are all turning on each other and Lin Wood is leaking damaging recordings. You hate to see it. That woman will be running from creditors and lawyers the rest of her life. And Donald and his checkbook will be no where to be found.

    Dark_Side on
  • GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    MorganV wrote: »
    Shocking nobody, it looks like Sidney Powell's "Defend the Republic" fundraising group might have been.... *pause for effect* a scam!


    "NEW: Prosecutors demanded records of Sidney Powell’s fundraising groups as part of criminal probe "
    - Emma Brown writes for WaPo.

    The article mentioned there is paywalled, because WaPo, but there's another report from Daily Beast that appears to have similar details.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/feds-are-asking-questions-about-sidney-powell-and-her-pro-trump-group?source=articles&via=rss
    Defending the Republic’s funds weren’t going towards the pro-Trump goals donors likely envisioned, according to Byrne. Instead, he claimed they were spent on paying legal bills for Powell, who has faced court disciplinary issues and a daunting billion-dollar defamation lawsuit from Dominion Voting Systems.
    "Byrne" is Patrick Byrne, formerly CEO for "Defend the Republic"

    I just can't believe it was all a grift! Wait, no, the opposite.

    All sorts of juicy gossip in that daily beast article. Her, Lin Wood, and Byrne are all turning on each other and Lin Wood is leaking damaging recordings. You hate to see it. That woman will be running from creditors and lawyers the rest of her life. And Donald and his checkbook will be no where to be found.

    They really need to make “do not expect to be paid or compensated by a trump” a mandatory course in law school.

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