those are probably just going to be recolours of other outfits, because a new player who buys endwalker will be able to change to reaper or sage and do shadowbringers, they need to work with the part of the storyline where you get armour from grenoldt
This is probably true, but now I am immensely curious to know what armor sets they chose. Hopefully something with a decent "cool factor" and not baseline leveling gear.
those are probably just going to be recolours of other outfits, because a new player who buys endwalker will be able to change to reaper or sage and do shadowbringers, they need to work with the part of the storyline where you get armour from grenoldt
Memoria EX is where you get the dyeable version of that gear either way.
Is Crystal Tower soloable by a max level un-synced player?
It depends, the Crystal Tower portion itself should be fine because it's a hallway, but Labyrinth and WoD both have portions that require splitting into three teams that I don't think will allow for soloing.
I never got around to upgrading any of my 520 tome gear to 530 and I only realized today that I need all three coins from the Nier raids and not just ones from the third one. I have 10 from the third, 5 from the second raid, and none from the first one. My fault for not actually checking it weeks/months ago so I only have myself to blame. Sorry DRG you'll just have to be 520 instead of 525'ish for the next 4-6 levels.
I've always hated how the upgrade tiers work like that, tbh. It's annoying that it requires more work to upgrade the last set than the first.
It's to make sure the previous Nier raids remained populated even when a new one was out.
FFXIV incentivizes running old content so well that you don't even notice that's the goal they're going for when they do it.
If it only required a coin from the latest one then the earlier ones would be progressively less populated since people would only do them a few times to get past the point of needing them.
I'm aware of why but it's still annoying. The first Nier raid is still my favorite but I'm not sure I'd want to run in 10+ more times. Not that it's an issue anymore because come Friday I can just upgrade items for 100 poetics.
I'm getting super antsy for Endwalker. These next couple days are gonna be loooooooong.
I think what I've decided to do is to push the MSQ story on MCH first. I will stop when I hit the first dungeon. At that point, I will level Sage from 70-8X and complete the first dungeon as Sage, since that's going to be my main class for group content.
There's also a very real possibility that the servers are gonna be mega explodey on Friday. I seem to recall that being the case for both Shadowbringers and Stormblood before that.
I'm probably going to alternate between pushing MSQ on SCH/SMN and leveling BTN for the easy gil as I get flight unlocked in each zone. My SMN gear is a bit out of date but I have a metric ton of poetics and can also buy the Zadnor gear (I already got some of it anyways because glamour - Larsa's boots are nice)
I think I will find the Sage trainer, start that up and level it up until they are 80 then start endwalker. So far I have played every expansion well after launch and I enjoy that. Dont really want to have 50 players stacked on one NPC
I'm capped on Poetics atm (and sitting at I think lvl 76 with my PLD, pre-ShB). I know there are a buncha guides (and I've used them) to figure out how to spend Poetics, but any particular advice in light of EW launching? Maybe spend on Scaevan gear for when I inevitably try a second job?
I'm capped on Poetics atm (and sitting at I think lvl 76 with my PLD, pre-ShB). I know there are a buncha guides (and I've used them) to figure out how to spend Poetics, but any particular advice in light of EW launching? Maybe spend on Scaevan gear for when I inevitably try a second job?
Wait til Friday when it can buy level 80 endgame gear?
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So after being frustrated in that "waste more of my time lull" in the MSQ last night, I pushed through that and got to (spoilering this justttt in case we have a few other people pushing through Shadowbringers like me)...
Amaurot. Alright Square, you got me. This is fucking incredible and intense. I was in a pretty bad mood after the way I felt the post Crown stuff was handled, but once I got here all is forgiven. I really love how Emet-Selch drops his witty maybe-a-friend facade and just lays it all bare. I also love how, despite them being evil bastards, a lot of what he says, and even does, makes some logical, if twisted, sense. I want to defeat the Ascians, but I also completely understand their motivation and just like Alisaie says, would I do any different?
They question the very nature of what it means to be a hero and what heroism even is. Emet Selch is a hero to his people. He is championing a cause. But is he right? Is he good?
The expansion also questions the nature of light vs dark.
On the Source, the player is the Warrior of Light. But on the First, that very same person is the Warrior of Darkness, and bringing the darkness is heralded as being good. They flip it upside down for what is good and what is bad.
The very name of the expansion... Shadowbringers... is about us. The Warriors of Light. But in this expansion we are not bringing the light. We are bringing shadow to a world that is flooded with light.
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I'm capped on Poetics atm (and sitting at I think lvl 76 with my PLD, pre-ShB). I know there are a buncha guides (and I've used them) to figure out how to spend Poetics, but any particular advice in light of EW launching? Maybe spend on Scaevan gear for when I inevitably try a second job?
Either wait until Friday, or if you're interested in Sage/Reaper buy level 70 Healing/Dragoon gear.
I'm capped on Poetics atm (and sitting at I think lvl 76 with my PLD, pre-ShB). I know there are a buncha guides (and I've used them) to figure out how to spend Poetics, but any particular advice in light of EW launching? Maybe spend on Scaevan gear for when I inevitably try a second job?
Wait til Friday when it can buy level 80 endgame gear?
But if I'm still pre-ShB, can I still use it towards 80 gear? Don't I unlock the 80 vendor only after beating ShB MSQ?
I'm capped on Poetics atm (and sitting at I think lvl 76 with my PLD, pre-ShB). I know there are a buncha guides (and I've used them) to figure out how to spend Poetics, but any particular advice in light of EW launching? Maybe spend on Scaevan gear for when I inevitably try a second job?
Wait til Friday when it can buy level 80 endgame gear?
But if I'm still pre-ShB, can I still use it towards 80 gear? Don't I unlock the 80 vendor only after beating ShB MSQ?
Well, yes, you do need to beat the 5.0 questline first. So if you're leveling another job first Scaevan would be good to pick up for that.
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Hit first credits on Stormblood. Music's okay, but it's no Dragonsong. Expansion so far has had lower highs than HW. Grynewaht makes me happy,
so I hope that there's a stinger somewhere where he somehow survived our ass kicking, like there's was for the old man and Yotsuya.
Spoilers for Stormblood patch content:
I feel like I'm the only person who absolutely hated that. It completely undid Gosetsu's sacrifice, and didn't add anything to Yotsuyu's story. Asahi could've just been killed by the WoL... there was absolutely zero reason for any of those plot contortions. It's the low point in the entire FF14 saga for me. Yes, even below the buildup to facing Titan for the first time. It's okay to leave people dead instead of dragging their stories out for a worse conclusion.
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Hit first credits on Stormblood. Music's okay, but it's no Dragonsong. Expansion so far has had lower highs than HW. Grynewaht makes me happy,
so I hope that there's a stinger somewhere where he somehow survived our ass kicking, like there's was for the old man and Yotsuya.
Spoilers for Stormblood patch content:
I feel like I'm the only person who absolutely hated that. It completely undid Gosetsu's sacrifice, and didn't add anything to Yotsuyu's story. Asahi could've just been killed by the WoL... there was absolutely zero reason for any of those plot contortions. It's the low point in the entire FF14 saga for me. Yes, even below the buildup to facing Titan for the first time. It's okay to leave people dead instead of dragging their stories out for a worse conclusion.
I don't hate it so... emphatically, but I thought it was pretty unnecessary as well - it looks particularly bad when you take into account the fact that it's also part of a machine gun of bringing supposedly dead characters back all within that same series of post-patches - Gosetsu, Yotsuyu, Zenos and Gaius. Like, storywriter please learn to just work with what you have.
Hit first credits on Stormblood. Music's okay, but it's no Dragonsong. Expansion so far has had lower highs than HW. Grynewaht makes me happy,
so I hope that there's a stinger somewhere where he somehow survived our ass kicking, like there's was for the old man and Yotsuya.
Spoilers for Stormblood patch content:
I feel like I'm the only person who absolutely hated that. It completely undid Gosetsu's sacrifice, and didn't add anything to Yotsuyu's story. Asahi could've just been killed by the WoL... there was absolutely zero reason for any of those plot contortions. It's the low point in the entire FF14 saga for me. Yes, even below the buildup to facing Titan for the first time. It's okay to leave people dead instead of dragging their stories out for a worse conclusion.
No I'm 100% with you.
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So more Shadowbringers 5.0 ending thoughts...I'm probably being a bit too philosophical here, so apologies for a bit of the mind blown meme text dump.
The more I've thought about this, the more I've realized the question isn't just "wouldn't we do the same?", it's "aren't we already doing the same?" By stopping the Ascians we are effectively dooming a race to extinction. We've killed countless hoards of beastmen tribes and their primals. Our solution to any perceived threat to our way of life, loved ones or values is immediate, overwhelming force. It's easy to see us as the "good guys" because we experience the story purely through the motivations and attachments of our characters. We, as players, become attached as well. The end of Shadowbringers, for me, has really forced me to turn a mirror on my characters existence in the world.
Yes, absolutely some of this is just video games being video games and the power fantasy being sold....but I love that the writers went there. They asked a hard question of the WoL and by extension the player.
I wasn't 100% sold that Shadowbringers was better than Heavansward for me (Stormblood didn't hit for me, I had to struggle through it)...but I'm sold now. That ending sequence alone pushed it way over the top.
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No, hard disagree there.
. We aren't dooming a race, they doomed themselves. They are trying to repair their mistake by cultivating enough lesser sentient life to sacrifice on the alter of the god they created to somehow equivalent-exchange away the self inflicted deaths of their entire race of near godlike beings. They are piling on worlds upon world's worth of murder of unsuspecting people in the hopes of turning back the clock on their own self inflicted extinction. The WoL's actions on behalf of the city-states is wrong because the city-states were wrong, but even at their max wrong they never sought extinction of the beast tribes. Everything you fought as the WoL has at least been an existential threat. Until recent events there was no threat to the ascians. Their people were all dead so long ago it boggles the mind and of the ones left no one could kill them. They had literally an eternity to figure out the solution to the problem and they stuck with repeated mass genocides.
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chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
. We aren't dooming a race, they doomed themselves. They are trying to repair their mistake by cultivating enough lesser sentient life to sacrifice on the alter of the god they created to somehow equivalent-exchange away the self inflicted deaths of their entire race of near godlike beings. They are piling on worlds upon world's worth of murder of unsuspecting people in the hopes of turning back the clock on their own self inflicted extinction. The WoL's actions on behalf of the city-states is wrong because the city-states were wrong, but even at their max wrong they never sought extinction of the beast tribes. Everything you fought as the WoL has at least been an existential threat. Until recent events there was no threat to the ascians. Their people were all dead so long ago it boggles the mind and of the ones left no one could kill them. They had literally an eternity to figure out the solution to the problem and they stuck with repeated mass genocides.
Largely agree, minus one quibble
The ascians argument is that they're not really killing anyone, as everyone is a fragment of some "true" being that was an ascian. So they're just reconnecting them by triggering calamities, and that they'll bring everyone back together.
I'll be curious how Endwalker resolves that idea, if at all.
. We aren't dooming a race, they doomed themselves. They are trying to repair their mistake by cultivating enough lesser sentient life to sacrifice on the alter of the god they created to somehow equivalent-exchange away the self inflicted deaths of their entire race of near godlike beings. They are piling on worlds upon world's worth of murder of unsuspecting people in the hopes of turning back the clock on their own self inflicted extinction. The WoL's actions on behalf of the city-states is wrong because the city-states were wrong, but even at their max wrong they never sought extinction of the beast tribes. Everything you fought as the WoL has at least been an existential threat. Until recent events there was no threat to the ascians. Their people were all dead so long ago it boggles the mind and of the ones left no one could kill them. They had literally an eternity to figure out the solution to the problem and they stuck with repeated mass genocides.
Largely agree, minus one quibble
The ascians argument is that they're not really killing anyone, as everyone is a fragment of some "true" being that was an ascian. So they're just reconnecting them by triggering calamities, and that they'll bring everyone back together.
I'll be curious how Endwalker resolves that idea, if at all.
Nah, that argument falls apart. XIV has some degree of reincarnation going on with the lifestream and all, but each life is still a distinct person.
. We aren't dooming a race, they doomed themselves. They are trying to repair their mistake by cultivating enough lesser sentient life to sacrifice on the alter of the god they created to somehow equivalent-exchange away the self inflicted deaths of their entire race of near godlike beings. They are piling on worlds upon world's worth of murder of unsuspecting people in the hopes of turning back the clock on their own self inflicted extinction. The WoL's actions on behalf of the city-states is wrong because the city-states were wrong, but even at their max wrong they never sought extinction of the beast tribes. Everything you fought as the WoL has at least been an existential threat. Until recent events there was no threat to the ascians. Their people were all dead so long ago it boggles the mind and of the ones left no one could kill them. They had literally an eternity to figure out the solution to the problem and they stuck with repeated mass genocides.
I don't think we're disagreeing about the Ascians here, except in terms of their fate. We absolutely are assuring their extinction even if it's the right decision (which it is), and even if they did set themselves on the path (which they did). The only real thing I would add is the caveat of madness, which the game also touches on. The Ascians have clearly gone mad over the eons since their fall.
Where we definitely disagree is hand waving the actions of the WoL. I think it's extremely clear the development team is trying to make a point about the WoL not being an untouchable august figure. Knowing what we know about the WoL, it's a completely valid point of view to see the WoL as a butcher and a hired thug willing to participate in extreme violence for their ideals (or someone else's ideals for the gil). Is it to the level of what the Ascians are attempting? Of course not...but the question being asked, hell Alisae literally asks it, is: would we? Is the inequality in response to our crisis an inequality of power or an inequality of conscience?
imo one of the most telling parts of emet-selch's character
is that his sole request upon death is for you to remember him
...after saying the first thing he would do once he gains power is erase you from history
he's a prat who asks for mercy he would not extend himself
Funny thing is he probably wouldn't be unaware of this either, but he'd know if he asks the WoL/Scions to remember them, they're just goody-goody enough to still do it even if they were cognizant of the hypocrisy.
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. We aren't dooming a race, they doomed themselves. They are trying to repair their mistake by cultivating enough lesser sentient life to sacrifice on the alter of the god they created to somehow equivalent-exchange away the self inflicted deaths of their entire race of near godlike beings. They are piling on worlds upon world's worth of murder of unsuspecting people in the hopes of turning back the clock on their own self inflicted extinction. The WoL's actions on behalf of the city-states is wrong because the city-states were wrong, but even at their max wrong they never sought extinction of the beast tribes. Everything you fought as the WoL has at least been an existential threat. Until recent events there was no threat to the ascians. Their people were all dead so long ago it boggles the mind and of the ones left no one could kill them. They had literally an eternity to figure out the solution to the problem and they stuck with repeated mass genocides.
Largely agree, minus one quibble
The ascians argument is that they're not really killing anyone, as everyone is a fragment of some "true" being that was an ascian. So they're just reconnecting them by triggering calamities, and that they'll bring everyone back together.
I'll be curious how Endwalker resolves that idea, if at all.
Nah, that argument falls apart. XIV has some degree of reincarnation going on with the lifestream and all, but each life is still a distinct person.
Perhaps they failed to explain it well enough, but yeah everyone who lives is a shard of an Ascian.
The WoL for example is already heading down that road to 'completion'. It's strongly hinted that the WoL is in fact a shard of the Ascian Emet-Selch was very close to or knew very well. The WoL is also now a bit more 'whole' in that regard too.
Each world has its own self contained reincarnation thingy, but with each dead world they get closer to reforming the whole, Jet Li The One style.
edit- Honestly, probably the most short-sighted part of their plan is that once they get down to like two worlds everyone living in them will be extraordinarily powerful. Half the power of a Full Ascian. Which if they're having trouble now, what about then?
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This is probably true, but now I am immensely curious to know what armor sets they chose. Hopefully something with a decent "cool factor" and not baseline leveling gear.
Memoria EX is where you get the dyeable version of that gear either way.
I only need one totem to be able to purchase a complete set either way. It's not a big deal.
And you can also have a less-than-full party that's still synced.
It depends, the Crystal Tower portion itself should be fine because it's a hallway, but Labyrinth and WoD both have portions that require splitting into three teams that I don't think will allow for soloing.
I'm aware of why but it's still annoying. The first Nier raid is still my favorite but I'm not sure I'd want to run in 10+ more times. Not that it's an issue anymore because come Friday I can just upgrade items for 100 poetics.
Yes you can. You just need at least one person in each alliance (so 3).
I think what I've decided to do is to push the MSQ story on MCH first. I will stop when I hit the first dungeon. At that point, I will level Sage from 70-8X and complete the first dungeon as Sage, since that's going to be my main class for group content.
There's also a very real possibility that the servers are gonna be mega explodey on Friday. I seem to recall that being the case for both Shadowbringers and Stormblood before that.
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(Thematic spoilers for Shadowbringers)
The expansion also questions the nature of light vs dark.
On the Source, the player is the Warrior of Light. But on the First, that very same person is the Warrior of Darkness, and bringing the darkness is heralded as being good. They flip it upside down for what is good and what is bad.
The very name of the expansion... Shadowbringers... is about us. The Warriors of Light. But in this expansion we are not bringing the light. We are bringing shadow to a world that is flooded with light.
Either wait until Friday, or if you're interested in Sage/Reaper buy level 70 Healing/Dragoon gear.
But if I'm still pre-ShB, can I still use it towards 80 gear? Don't I unlock the 80 vendor only after beating ShB MSQ?
Well, yes, you do need to beat the 5.0 questline first. So if you're leveling another job first Scaevan would be good to pick up for that.
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No I'm 100% with you.
Yes, absolutely some of this is just video games being video games and the power fantasy being sold....but I love that the writers went there. They asked a hard question of the WoL and by extension the player.
I wasn't 100% sold that Shadowbringers was better than Heavansward for me (Stormblood didn't hit for me, I had to struggle through it)...but I'm sold now. That ending sequence alone pushed it way over the top.
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Largely agree, minus one quibble
I'll be curious how Endwalker resolves that idea, if at all.
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...after saying the first thing he would do once he gains power is erase you from history
he's a prat who asks for mercy he would not extend himself
Where we definitely disagree is hand waving the actions of the WoL. I think it's extremely clear the development team is trying to make a point about the WoL not being an untouchable august figure. Knowing what we know about the WoL, it's a completely valid point of view to see the WoL as a butcher and a hired thug willing to participate in extreme violence for their ideals (or someone else's ideals for the gil). Is it to the level of what the Ascians are attempting? Of course not...but the question being asked, hell Alisae literally asks it, is: would we? Is the inequality in response to our crisis an inequality of power or an inequality of conscience?
The WoL for example is already heading down that road to 'completion'. It's strongly hinted that the WoL is in fact a shard of the Ascian Emet-Selch was very close to or knew very well. The WoL is also now a bit more 'whole' in that regard too.
Each world has its own self contained reincarnation thingy, but with each dead world they get closer to reforming the whole, Jet Li The One style.
edit- Honestly, probably the most short-sighted part of their plan is that once they get down to like two worlds everyone living in them will be extraordinarily powerful. Half the power of a Full Ascian. Which if they're having trouble now, what about then?
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