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Maybe the real [Heroes of the Storm] were the friends we made along the way

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited July 20
    Most glorious Arthas game: I go all Tempest talents against a team with Butcher, Twin Blade Varian, and Greymane.
    Everything else was tank to maximize the time I could spend tempesting.

    You can imagine how that turned out.
    Constant 60% reduction of about three-quarters of their total damage output.

    The Greymane even went all in on Wargen form!

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    For the 4 of us going to the CCL Finals watch party at Wisdom Gaming Studios, there's an RSVP link

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Who says Illidan is a troll pick besides me?

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    How the fuck does Azmodan die 8 times to that comp? He should be functionality immune to you by virtue of simply out-ranging your damage. And if Illidan dives him, Azmo can just trade with his beam -- he actually beats Illidan in that matchup if he invests down that talent path.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    It's 27-5, I don't think anyone on red team was playing a good game.

    Officially the unluckiest CCG player ever.
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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    How the fuck does Azmodan die 8 times to that comp? He should be functionality immune to you by virtue of simply out-ranging your damage. And if Illidan dives him, Azmo can just trade with his beam -- he actually beats Illidan in that matchup if he invests down that talent path.

    Around 6 of those deaths were to me when he tried solo lane pushing.

    One was when he blew his beam on a tower and I dove him.

    Mid game was me taking the "dive to ally" talent and just diving out of range when he beamed me.
    Or just ulting him to cancel his beam.

    Late game was the magic armor evasion talent.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    I was waiting for the next event to maybe get some extra loot but at this point....

    still wait?
    New hero one day maybe?

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Hero roll call!

    Butcher! Nova! Murky! Tom Servo! Croooooooooooow!

    If you're wondering how they tank or heal, or other comp facts,

    just repeat to yourself it's just QM. You should really just relax!

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Wait... Nic said said Kara's lv 20 that gives you the other lv1s is actually OP busted.


    He said it includes the Insight quest CDR...

    actually if so, that is kinda huge!!

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 26
    I got a big promotion at work today; signed the job offer from HR and everything, but before the announcement can be made, they need to notify all the other applicants and let them know they've come to a decision. Since I can't tell any of my coworkers yet, I'm telling you guys, lol.

    I'll be able to work from home from this position, which is awesome because I live about an hour away from my office and I've been driving into Lafayette every day for like 10 years now.

    Which means I'll have a lot more time throughout the day to shit talk on the HotS thread, lmao.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    dedgame won't know what hit it

    Officially the unluckiest CCG player ever.
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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I got a big promotion at work today; signed the job offer from HR and everything, but before the announcement can be made, they need to notify all the other applicants and let them know they've come to a decision. Since I can't tell any of my coworkers yet, I'm telling you guys, lol.

    I'll be able to work from home from this position, which is awesome because I live about an hour away from my office and I've been driving into Lafayette every day for like 10 years now.

    Which means I'll have a lot more time throughout the day to shit talk on the HotS thread, lmao.

    Congratulations!

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  • WhelkWhelk Registered User regular
    Ducks, I was expecting shit-posting. When is this promotion because patience is a virtue I do not possess.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Ok so I had to check.

    Confirmed that Kara's lv 20 Fist of Legend DOES include the Insight quest CDR and lordy it's amazing.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    It gives half the normal CDR, yes.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Wait... HALF the cdr?

    Omg that's so petty...

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    It literally says 50% in the talent...

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    The kill count when QM serves you up an all assassin game.

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  • InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    Ok so I had to check.

    Confirmed that Kara's lv 20 Fist of Legend DOES include the Insight quest CDR and lordy it's amazing.

    I am honestly gonna have to start playing Khara again. I always assumed it didn't include the quest reward.

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    I guess it plays out difference in practice, but I was never impressed with that talent on paper.

    50% iron fist damage bonus to your auto attacks at lvl 20? 12% move speed boost?...eh?
    50% CDR from insight is a bit nice, but nothing I would think is worth a lvl 20.
    Transcendence should always be taken for the level 1. I am more correct than all the pros.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    You kinda always take iron fist at 1 with kara. It's kind of his thing.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    I guess it plays out difference in practice, but I was never impressed with that talent on paper.

    50% iron fist damage bonus to your auto attacks at lvl 20? 12% move speed boost?...eh?
    50% CDR from insight is a bit nice, but nothing I would think is worth a lvl 20.
    Transcendence should always be taken for the level 1. I am more correct than all the pros.

    It's very good for sustain, or if you expect the game to go long. Otherwise, I showed a while back in a post that you are better off just taking other talents to get additional damage if all you're trying to do is burst someone down.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited July 29
    MMMig wrote: »
    You kinda always take iron fist at 1 with kara. It's kind of his thing.

    His thing is...healing?

    The one and only time I would go for Iron Fists is on Immortal and Shrines, and even then I'd think twice.

    If you're just diving to burst enemies, there are way better heroes to pick from.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    MMMig wrote: »
    You kinda always take iron fist at 1 with kara. It's kind of his thing.

    His thing is...healing?

    You'd think so, but sadly he's just not great at it. I tried making a Kara heal machine using lots of CD reduction, but it just doesn't work. The biggest problem stems from having to go in to activate your CDs. Sure, when you're punching, your W/E are just up, but that doesn't happen consistently. People dash away or you get CC'd down.

    Kara is best suited to a double heal comp. His weak AoE heals have a better chance to gap fill the other healer's downtime.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Premades everywhere.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Agreed he is certainly not the best pure healer.

    But he's even less of a dive assassin. If you're doing that, just abandon healing entirely and go with a real assassin.

    I play him just to be a somewhat flexible sustain who helps himself and other stay in lane, push minions okay, can take little risks to not get caught out of position and win trades, and do some camps in a pinch if the rest of your team isn't on top of that.

    Transcendence helps with all that way more. For Insight, I'm not a fan of quests in general because it's better to have a bonus now to snowball off of than a delayed bonus that may or may not pay off fast enough.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Does anyone ever take Firestomp build as Diablo? If so, when?

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    I think firestomp is the standard build now with spell shield at 1.

    That's what I see most often at high levels. That spell shield cdr just makes him so damn tanky.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    edited July 29
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    MrBody wrote: »
    MMMig wrote: »
    You kinda always take iron fist at 1 with kara. It's kind of his thing.

    His thing is...healing?

    You'd think so, but sadly he's just not great at it. I tried making a Kara heal machine using lots of CD reduction, but it just doesn't work. The biggest problem stems from having to go in to activate your CDs. Sure, when you're punching, your W/E are just up, but that doesn't happen consistently. People dash away or you get CC'd down.

    Kara is best suited to a double heal comp. His weak AoE heals have a better chance to gap fill the other healer's downtime.

    And yeah Kara is pretty rare in general because he's a weak healer. There are far far better healers for that role. So instead he's a little niche when you want a 2nd support with OK finishing potential, or if you need his sweet multiple cleanses plus the extra bit of healing.

    Which is why, in those cases, he usually wants iron fist. Oh and also 7SS. That's his big boi burst and very decent.

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  • WhelkWhelk Registered User regular
    It's also that his healing from autos can't really be used to sustain between fights unless you're mindless in lane or on a camp. His damage isn't terrible, and he can secure kills. That's his niche: a healer that can secure kills if necessary. He's not great at either, but at higher MMR that's the function he's got. You're less likely to meat-grinder at that point where he can just auto the enemy team for heals. Being able to bop a Valla who is causing trouble is worth more than the small amount from the healing level 1s.

    MMMig
  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius Steam - Talon ValdezRegistered User regular
    Khara is my fast punchyheal aram boy.

    I don't even attempt him in real games anymore.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    My only big complaint about khara is the aa range on his 16 volleys are so small that the hard part is moving with your target.

    Half the time those punches miss bc the enemy stepped to the side.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    This thread has inspired me to do a Kharazim one-trick SL run.

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  • InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    This thread has inspired me to do a Kharazim one-trick SL run.

    with a new account, or...? keep us updated! khara is pretty versatile

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Problem is you can't show khara in draft. You have to put some other melee assassin so someone else takes a real healer.

    Lol show valeera and they'll thank you for switching to khara.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Good luck if you're first pick.

    Officially the unluckiest CCG player ever.
  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited July 29
    MMMig wrote: »
    I think firestomp is the standard build now with spell shield at 1.

    That's what I see most often at high levels. That spell shield cdr just makes him so damn tanky.

    I'm trying this. So far it's only been useful if the other team entirely focuses on me and never thinks to simply walk past me.

    You're tanky, but your CC options suffer greatly. Only one charge of Q and W with no cdr. Once both are blown, your only presence is the weakening effect from flame. You're sort of a less useful E build Leo at that point.

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  • milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    The whole "Khara isn't a great Healer" thing is predicated upon the fact that they literally fucking increased his Breath of Heaven cooldown by like 50% because Iron Fists was so prevalent, and it didn't feel right for someone with so much offensive power to be such a good Healer (who the fuck is Rehgar, am I right?). He used to be an incredible Healer. He used to have amazing throughout potential.

    But it's hard to be a good Healer when your only heal has a 10 second fucking cooldown.

    All they ever had to do was have Iron Fists increase the cooldown of Breath of Heaven to 10 seconds. That's it. Leave the other options alone, and then you have options. Then you have multiple viable playstyles.

    But Blizzard can't balance their way out of a fucking paper bag, so this is what we're left with.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Khara is in the unfortunate position of "very strong at top levels, very weak otherwise"

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  • WhelkWhelk Registered User regular
    He's the only character I actively ping my own abilities on. Ping that heal so people actually bunch the fuck up for it.

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