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Munkus Beaver

minor incident wrote: »

I don't think it's hard to argue that DS9 definitely has more consistently good writing than TNG. I feel like maybe TNG has some higher highs, but DS9 rarely had a bad episode.

DS9 had bad episodes in the first three seasons. I was watching mostly from inertia and how good that one S1 episode was.

Season 4 hasn’t had a bad episode yet.

Munkus Beaver

Also I find it hilarious how, in TNG, Worf was always used as ‘the guy to get beat up to show how serious the threat is’

While so far I’m DS9 all he does is beat the shit out of whoever challenges him

minor incident

Munkus Beaver wrote: »

minor incident wrote: »

I don't think it's hard to argue that DS9 definitely has more consistently good writing than TNG. I feel like maybe TNG has some higher highs, but DS9 rarely had a bad episode.

DS9 had bad episodes in the first three seasons. I was watching mostly from inertia and how good that one S1 episode was.

Season 4 hasn’t had a bad episode yet.

Yeah, season 1 had a few clunkers, but even as the worst season, it was still (I think) dramatically better than TNG season 1. Beyond that, I thought seasons 2 and 3 were pretty good, with some so-so episodes at worst. But yeah, from season 4 onward, there's almost never anything I wouldn't rewatch. Season 7 has been phenomenally good the entire way through so far (I'm about to watch the series finale in a minute!)

Munkus Beaver

Season 4 is when the show became bingeable for me.

Edit: There are a smattering of episodes I would recommend from the first three seasons, but for the most part I’d recommend watching those and then skipping to the last episode of S3 and going from there.

Zonugal

Munkus Beaver wrote: »

Also I find it hilarious how, in TNG, Worf was always used as ‘the guy to get beat up to show how serious the threat is’

While so far I’m DS9 all he does is beat the shit out of whoever challenges him

There is an interaction between Worf and an enemy in the seventh season that was so good that I basically vomited up laughter.

Zonugal

minor incident wrote: »

Munkus Beaver wrote: »

minor incident wrote: »

I don't think it's hard to argue that DS9 definitely has more consistently good writing than TNG. I feel like maybe TNG has some higher highs, but DS9 rarely had a bad episode.

DS9 had bad episodes in the first three seasons. I was watching mostly from inertia and how good that one S1 episode was.

Season 4 hasn’t had a bad episode yet.

Yeah, season 1 had a few clunkers, but even as the worst season, it was still (I think) dramatically better than TNG season 1. Beyond that, I thought seasons 2 and 3 were pretty good, with some so-so episodes at worst. But yeah, from season 4 onward, there's almost never anything I wouldn't rewatch. Season 7 has been phenomenally good the entire way through so far (I'm about to watch the series finale in a minute!)

I'd say the worst episode, post season 4, is the one with Quark having to pretend to be a woman.

Poorochondriac

Is it in one of the movies where Worf rips a dude's arm off and beats him with it?

That was a fun one

Andy Joe

Watched the first episode of Our Flag Means Death.

I don't have the strongest ear for these things, but it doesn't sound like Rhys Darby is trying to hide his New Zealand accent much?

Sleep

Ah the only episode of ds9 I just straight up skipped when I realized what the gimmick was gonna be

Zonugal

Poorochondriac wrote: »

Is it in one of the movies where Worf rips a dude's arm off and beats him with it?

That was a fun one

Nah, its:

DS9 Late Season 7 Spoilers

Ezri Dax and Worf are captured by some Cardassians and Weyoun (Jeffrey Combs) starts insulting Dax. He gets really close to them and at one point Worf immediately snaps his neck.

I can't stress enough how quickly it happens within the scene.

Depressperado

Zonugal wrote: »

Poorochondriac wrote: »

Is it in one of the movies where Worf rips a dude's arm off and beats him with it?

That was a fun one

Nah, its:

DS9 Late Season 7 Spoilers

Ezri Dax and Worf are captured by some Cardassians and Weyoun (Jeffrey Combs) starts insulting Dax. He gets really close to them and at one point Worf immediately snaps his neck.

I can't stress enough how quickly it happens within the scene.

I also enjoy

DS9 Late Season 7 Spoilers again

when Garak kills Weyoun.

"I wish you hadn't done that. That was Weyoun's last clone."
"I was hoping you'd say that."

Reynolds

My favorite two Worf fights are him killing his way through like a dozen Jem'Hadar over a few days in By Inferno's Light (where their leader just gives up after realizing none of them had a chance to beat him in a fair fight, much less any shot at breaking his spirit) and when he just clowns on a few in One Little Ship.

Zonugal

Reynolds wrote: »

My favorite two Worf fights are him killing his way through like a dozen Jem'Hadar over a few days in By Inferno's Light (where their leader just gives up after realizing none of them had a chance to beat him in a fair fight, much less any shot at breaking his spirit) and when he just clowns on a few in One Little Ship.

"I yield! I cannot defeat this Klingon. All I can do is kill him, and that no longer holds my interest."

Pinfeldorf

One thing I wish we had gotten at some point, probably in DS9 because it's the only logical place for it to happen, would be the Borg showing up and absolutely bodying the Dominion. Can you imagine what the Borg could have done with just one Founder?!

Snicketysnick

I love this synergy (More DS9 Spoilers)

a+ signature punchline, would chuckle again

Commander Zoom

also the first glimmers of Damar's greatness.

"... maybe you should talk to Worf again!" *gigglesnort*

Sleep

This warrior nun show on Netflix is going way better than I expected when I turned it on to be my background trash for the day. Like it’s not life changing or profound or anything, just much better than my expectation.

Centipede Damascus

Sleep wrote: »

This warrior nun show on Netflix is going way better than I expected when I turned it on to be my background trash for the day. Like it’s not life changing or profound or anything, just much better than my expectation.

and if you look up the "source material", it's kind of amazing it's any good at all

Munkus Beaver

Let me just say, I appreciate the spoilers. I've been spoiled on a couple of things just because it's old media and whatnot, but I am still fairly blind going in.

Like, I was not expecting the

Klingons to break their alliance with the Federation.

But holy shit I love it.

Post sons of mogh analysis:

Love the episode. Love it. But not a big fan of the ending. It kinda falls into the category of "wait, you can do that?" Where the implications of what they can do with that procedure makes you question a few things. But it's a minor quibble for such an amazing episode full of pathos and ethos

The Zombie Penguin

Re: Worf being suddenly competent - this is because one of the conditions the actor put on his coming over was that the writers cut that shit out of Worfing Worf

Munkus Beaver

aw I wanted a worf beetle

minor incident

Gotta hand it to Worf, it's neat that he went from the dude with the bad ponytail who got clowned on by random aliens on a weekly basis to the dude who (DS9 end spoilers)

murdered the shit out of the Chancellor and took control of the Klingon Empire without breaking too much of a sweat.

minor incident

Moon Knight just spent an entire episode in Egypt and didn’t use a yellow/sepia filter over any of it, and it’s wild how surprised I am about that.

Dex Dynamo

I finished Our Flag Means Death (spoilers)

I think the early reviews of the show did it no favors, because I went in expecting something closer to WWDitS based on people's descriptions of what the show would be and was a little underwhelmed (this also made me assume people shipping the main characters, even though I knew their characters did fall in love onscreen, was Fandom being Fandom and that it would be closer to Guillermo and Nandor)

But once it became apparent that "oh this is literally a Romcom structure," I enjoyed it immensely more

I still think some of the praise for it has been overblown but I did enjoy it a lot.

Dirtyboy

https://twitter.com/ScottThompson_/status/1514366650497351681

Jedoc

The heart-clenching dread of a bunch of old white dudes you used to admire stepping back into the public eye and trying to do comedy. Boy, I hope they're not complete bastards now.

Hacksaw

Whenever I see Kids in the Hall, I read it with the same cadence as Judas Priest's "Breakin the Law"

Kids in the hall, kids in the hall
Kids in the hall, kids in the hall
KIDS IN THE HALL, KIDS IN THE HALL
KIDS IN THE HALL, KIDS IN THE HAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!

I do not know to what or whom I owe this little bit of perplexing conditioning, but I must say it drives me a bit nutty when I'm left alone in a silent room with my hole-ridden, ADHD-addled brain, lacking for alternative stimuli or any other sort of attention-grabber. Thanks Mom and Dad for the defective neurochemistry!

Commander Zoom

"kids"

No Great Name

If yall haven't watched Severance you should watch Severance.

Take LOST and Control and mix in some Office Space.

Just got it's second season announced as well.

Centipede Damascus

minor incident wrote: »

Moon Knight just spent an entire episode in Egypt and didn’t use a yellow/sepia filter over any of it, and it’s wild how surprised I am about that.

The lead director for the show is actually Egyptian, and I saw that he said one of the reasons he wanted to do the show was to show a more authentic version of his country

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/moon-knight-mohamed-diab-authenticity-egypt-1235124803/

Now based in L.A. but best known in Egypt for writing major hits, such as El Gezeira, and directing acclaimed hard-hitting dramas, including Cairo 678 and the Cannes-bowing Clash, Diab — who helmed four of Moon Knight’s six episodes — says that a major part of the 200-page pitch to Marvel he put together with his writer-producer wife, Sarah Goher, was all about ensuring that his country and its citizens were correctly depicted onscreen, ducking the stereotypes and cliches so often seen.

“A big part of our pitch was avoiding the orientalist look, which always dehumanizes us,” he says. “It shows us as exotic, where women are submissive and men are evil. And it wasn’t only about representation of the people, but of the place itself.”

Zonugal

Ally McBeal update:

On today's episode Ally is depressed over losing Jesse L Martin and blares Boz Scaggs in the office as a result. To get her to stop this Ling proposes that Ally rent one of the hunks in her male escort service to make her ex-boyfriend jealous. The male escort? Antonio Sabato Jr. What follows is the entire office concocting a scheme in which they throw a fake birthday party for John Cage to get Jesse L Martin to show up & see Ally with a new guy.

This plan is more-or-less a success even though the fake birthday party turns into Ally & her ex-boyfriend doing dueling dual-musical-acts with their dates. Its so god damn petty and Elaine continues to be AJ & I's POV character as she fucking adores it all.

Oh yeah, Calista Flockart gives an amazing monologue regarding the needs & desires of women:

You want a little logic? Here's some: We put in 1 2-hour days at our professions. A personal life is more important, but we don't work on it. I am going to apply myself, apply a work ethic to my private life. No options excluded, and no apologies for it. It's not about wanting a man. It's about a partner, okay? A partner for life. I am heterosexual and that limits me to men, if I want sex. And I do! I like sex! If that makes me weak, I wanna be weak. I want a partner, I want sex. I want a house with furniture. I want a baby. I want it all. I want to get fat. I want maternity dresses, I want my legs in stirrups, spit the little thing out and have him suck on my breast. Daddy right there the whole time with a camcorder. That's what I want. Instead of waiting for it, I'll make it happen. Can you deal with that?

Meanwhile Georgia is test-piloting around the office some dresses that Ling has been producing, which causes Billy to freak out and start policing what his wife can wear at work. He does this several times and then later in the episode, during John Cage's fake birthday party, Georgia wants to go up on stage to sing (which she can't do at all), which he shoots down and then doesn't support her while the rest of the crowd try to fake their way through Courtney Thorne-Smith butchering Son Of A Preacher Man.

*sucks in air*

Munkus Beaver

After the union episode, I can see why ya’ll like Rom.

Mysst

Munkus Beaver wrote: »

After the union episode, I can see why ya’ll like Rom.

He's more than a hero

minor incident

Munkus Beaver wrote: »

After the union episode, I can see why ya’ll like Rom.

Rom is a strong contender for my favorite character of DS9. Honestly it’s an absurdly close race between him, Bashir/O’Brien, Garak, and Vic Fontaine.

Depressperado

Depressperado

also the Ferengi eat bugs, why would they have jaggedy-ass fang teeth? they'd have big flat chompers for crackin' shells and stuff.

godmode

No Great Name wrote: »

If yall haven't watched Severance you should watch Severance.

Take LOST and Control and mix in some Office Space.

Just got it's second season announced as well.

Just finished season 1 last night - very good start. Hoping they don't beef it in the follow-up.

Munkus Beaver

As someone trained in the law, this episode “rules of engagement” is cringe as fuck

minor incident

Munkus Beaver wrote: »

As someone trained in the law, this episode “rules of engagement” is cringe as fuck

Yeah, but I bet you don't know SPACE LAW, do ya?

Munkus Beaver

I love the story. And i love the direction and presentation here.

But good God, the legal shit is kangaroo court