I think at the current point set up Vanguard is probably not wrong.
The Nid dex is deep but internal balance makes it skewed badly. I expect the Maleceptor, Tyrant, and Carnifexes to take some more nerfs. Probably point increases. And warriors will be rebalanced because they are the best troop in the book point for point. But once that happens you have probably right priced warriors still verse over priced gaunts. And gargoyles will be good still in the corner.
I think the list format won't change too much at the same time I do think it will probably stick as an A class book for the rest of the edition unless it gets Ad Meched where everything gets overtuned the other way and the book falls apart to a 21% win rate.
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I think at the current point set up Vanguard is probably not wrong.
The Nid dex is deep but internal balance makes it skewed badly. I expect the Maleceptor, Tyrant, and Carnifexes to take some more nerfs. Probably point increases. And warriors will be rebalanced because they are the best troop in the book point for point. But once that happens you have probably right priced warriors still verse over priced gaunts. And gargoyles will be good still in the corner.
I think the list format won't change too much at the same time I do think it will probably stick as an A class book for the rest of the edition unless it gets Ad Meched where everything gets overtuned the other way and the book falls apart to a 21% win rate.
The changes to termagants make the least amount of sense IMO. Mostly I’m just annoyed that I have 60, 30 with devourers which are just trash tier stuff this point.
I’m going to fuck with a list that runs a brick of them, with the tervigon and 20 stealers and report back.
Another point of annoyance is how much support you need to take and why the things that skew stick out so badly. The auto-include Zoanthropes that will do so little the rest of the game, Venomthropes, etc
I know about devourers on termagants is crap since the fleshborer is basically better than a bolter but 7 points a model is silly
I liked how they made Venomthropes finally worth taking but I am arguing with myself about either making the box I have of them into them or Zoanthropes
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I know about devourers on termagants is crap since the fleshborer is basically better than a bolter but 7 points a model is silly
I liked how they made Venomthropes finally worth taking but I am arguing with myself about either making the box I have of them into them or Zoanthropes
A thought to consider is that Jorgamundr basically does the venomthrope thing bu army wide
4++/5++ on your small bugs is very tasty and not really able to be replicated
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The changes to termagants make the least amount of sense IMO. Mostly I’m just annoyed that I have 60, 30 with devourers which are just trash tier stuff this point.
I mean, there's no hurt in proxying. Having played 'nids since 3rd, there's been a lot of 'every gaunt on the table is fleshborer/spine fist/ whatever' over the... decades.... *turns to dust and blows away.*
I know about the arguments about gluing the model equipped with X and how over time it may not be legal. As you may of liked the look then and still maybe now? I know playing forces people to paint the sea of grey every game is not that appealing
I have x termagants armed with devourers. I am tempted to arm some of the warriors I have with them but I found I have a ton of magnets. I can maybe set them up to be swappable I know I was probably going to do that to the primes. I saw a video where they set up the Tervigon/Tyrannofex to be able to change but I wanted to see it painted
Tomorrow should be the Sons of Horus preview so capping off my debate of who to do
Some of the rumors of the prices are starting to come out as I was curious how much the Mark IV boxes would cost and oddly Cataphractii and Tartaros will now be sold in boxes of 10
Heresy will be up for preorder or to come out on the 4th of June so I will be getting the large box then the legion tomes
I might pick up some tartaros/cataphractii for my Deathwatch. Relic termis are surprisingly good with combi-bolters/claws with armor of contempt. Its a good amount of attacks on a tough body.
It turns out I've only got about 1500 points of actual Heresy Era Raven Guard painted, the other 1500 or so was 40k. Once I get Corax done thats 2k, which coincidentally is the number of points in the new box. I've got a bunch of stuff half painted too which should give me another few hundred and let me play 2500-3k.
I've started reading the Horus Heresy and it's better than I expected. Hours Rising down, False Gods next.
I put models on Instagram now: asher_paints
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Put on a rubber cap for Legion because your mind gonna get fucked.
I had stopped reading the heresy books around 19 or 20 from what I can remember so there is that much more to read
I am tempted to just get the solar war books since they have said the previous books are in it from what you need to know story wise but since I have argued with myself about it they have added 3 more books to it
The first few Heresy books are fun. Then the quality drops (fulgrim). Then the series gets lost in the woods. Way too many books. Still some of them might be good.
I am currently reading Scars, off the back of reading Chris Wraight’s Leman Russ primarchs novel and after not liking the Space Wolves for the longest time my feelings are shifting somewhat
On the general recommendation of what seems like the entire Warhammer fanbase, I'm reading Dan Abnett's Eisenhorn trilogy (currently about 1/3 of the way through Hereticus). It's very good, but I think I prefer Spears of the Emperor overall. I think I might read ADB's Soul Hunter before going back to Ravenor.
I did have a laugh though at a scene in Hereticus: Eisenhorn is flying a "sporty" speeder at the breakneck speed of 45 knots... or 51 mph (at sea level anyway). I think I was driving faster at the time. I don't know if Abnett uses a lot of primary sources in his writing, but ADB does and I think that's one of the reasons I liked Spears so much. I actually sent a message to ADB on his site to contact me if he ever needed a primary source on combat flying (as of yet I haven't gotten any response though )
The HH series starts strong but then meanders off into six or seven different stories focused on separate casts that don't really interlock. Somewhere around book 35 the writing teams realized what they'd done and dragged it all back into something coherent.
They learned their lesson when prepping for Siege of Terra, which so far is much more dense and coherent given it's still written by separate authors.
Somewhere online, and I'll post it if I can find it, there's a truncated horse heresy reading order that knocks the series down to the essential books for what's actually going on with a broad stroke of the heresy
The HH series starts strong but then meanders off into six or seven different stories focused on separate casts that don't really interlock. Somewhere around book 35 the writing teams realized what they'd done and dragged it all back into something coherent.
They learned their lesson when prepping for Siege of Terra, which so far is much more dense and coherent given it's still written by separate authors.
Somewhere online, and I'll post it if I can find it, there's a truncated horse heresy reading order that knocks the series down to the essential books for what's actually going on with a broad stroke of the heresy
I'd like to see this list if you can find it
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Yes, that equine adventure series you mentioned sounds fantastic.
I am still curious if McFarlane will make craftworlds of which what they would make? The drukhari is for them since what they used to do for figures
As I am curious about if they make them will they make the artist ones as well
Tyranids is another I am curious about since a warrior is a large figure
Put on a rubber cap for Legion because your mind gonna get fucked.
Legion and Mechanicum are probably my favourite HH books. Master of Mankind is also great. Basically anything by Abnett, ADB or Graham McNeil will be pretty solid. I'm reading Know No Fear at the moment, which has an incredible first act. There's a scene where a capital-class starship falls out of orbit onto a world, and then the same thing happens again.
"I told you," said Ford. "Eddies in the space-time continuum."
"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
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On the general recommendation of what seems like the entire Warhammer fanbase, I'm reading Dan Abnett's Eisenhorn trilogy (currently about 1/3 of the way through Hereticus). It's very good, but I think I prefer Spears of the Emperor overall. I think I might read ADB's Soul Hunter before going back to Ravenor.
I did have a laugh though at a scene in Hereticus: Eisenhorn is flying a "sporty" speeder at the breakneck speed of 45 knots... or 51 mph (at sea level anyway). I think I was driving faster at the time. I don't know if Abnett uses a lot of primary sources in his writing, but ADB does and I think that's one of the reasons I liked Spears so much. I actually sent a message to ADB on his site to contact me if he ever needed a primary source on combat flying (as of yet I haven't gotten any response though )
Ravenor is better than Eisenhorn, of that helps you any.
I am still curious if McFarlane will make craftworlds of which what they would make? The drukhari is for them since what they used to do for figures
As I am curious about if they make them will they make the artist ones as well
Tyranids is another I am curious about since a warrior is a large figure
are we allowed to talk about the super cool Joytoy space marines here
is that allowed
Yes but it will make me jealous that Eldar literally aren't allowed cool toys
You just gotta convince them to do something crazy, like make a plastic Revenant Titan action figure that is the exact same size as the $400 Forge World resin one.
I am still curious if McFarlane will make craftworlds of which what they would make? The drukhari is for them since what they used to do for figures
As I am curious about if they make them will they make the artist ones as well
Tyranids is another I am curious about since a warrior is a large figure
I know they have as I posted earlier the chaos marines and dark angels coming out
When they showed off the orks and genestealers I said I am curious if they would do an Aeldari of one of the various flavors in basically what I said in the above
Sidenote, I wish Xenia factions would get even ten percent of the transfer sheet love, the Imperium is getting all the time.
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Those are just the transfers/dice that have been available from Forge World for a long time. Unless you were just lamenting the general state of things, in which case as you were.
The most interesting bit of that announcement is the primarchs being available to order from the GW webstore. They had done this previously with Tyranid FW kits labeled as 'expert' kits on the GW webstore but only in the UK.
Could we finally be seeing the merging of the two webstores?
I am sitting here doing my best not to order Chaos Knights.
I want them so badly.
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Yeah that Horus heresy set is going to wreck my wallet
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Yup, that set plus some transfers, primarch, and dice for whatever traitor legion I finally decide on, both books because I already have a loyalist army, and at least one each pack of heavy and special weapons.
Oh well, if my daughter is anything like me then college wasn't in her future anyway.
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The Nid dex is deep but internal balance makes it skewed badly. I expect the Maleceptor, Tyrant, and Carnifexes to take some more nerfs. Probably point increases. And warriors will be rebalanced because they are the best troop in the book point for point. But once that happens you have probably right priced warriors still verse over priced gaunts. And gargoyles will be good still in the corner.
I think the list format won't change too much at the same time I do think it will probably stick as an A class book for the rest of the edition unless it gets Ad Meched where everything gets overtuned the other way and the book falls apart to a 21% win rate.
The changes to termagants make the least amount of sense IMO. Mostly I’m just annoyed that I have 60, 30 with devourers which are just trash tier stuff this point.
I’m going to fuck with a list that runs a brick of them, with the tervigon and 20 stealers and report back.
Another point of annoyance is how much support you need to take and why the things that skew stick out so badly. The auto-include Zoanthropes that will do so little the rest of the game, Venomthropes, etc
I liked how they made Venomthropes finally worth taking but I am arguing with myself about either making the box I have of them into them or Zoanthropes
A thought to consider is that Jorgamundr basically does the venomthrope thing bu army wide
4++/5++ on your small bugs is very tasty and not really able to be replicated
That is an amazingly muted and just plain amazing color scheme. I would love to see more like that on the tabletop, that is for sure.
I mean, there's no hurt in proxying. Having played 'nids since 3rd, there's been a lot of 'every gaunt on the table is fleshborer/spine fist/ whatever' over the... decades.... *turns to dust and blows away.*
I have x termagants armed with devourers. I am tempted to arm some of the warriors I have with them but I found I have a ton of magnets. I can maybe set them up to be swappable I know I was probably going to do that to the primes. I saw a video where they set up the Tervigon/Tyrannofex to be able to change but I wanted to see it painted
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/26/headshot-enemy-operatives-in-their-own-turn-with-kill-team-morochs-incursor-marksman/
Still not fond of the bare heads and the huge metal one has
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/26/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-thousand-sons-know-more-than-you/
Tomorrow should be the Sons of Horus preview so capping off my debate of who to do
Some of the rumors of the prices are starting to come out as I was curious how much the Mark IV boxes would cost and oddly Cataphractii and Tartaros will now be sold in boxes of 10
Heresy will be up for preorder or to come out on the 4th of June so I will be getting the large box then the legion tomes
It turns out I've only got about 1500 points of actual Heresy Era Raven Guard painted, the other 1500 or so was 40k. Once I get Corax done thats 2k, which coincidentally is the number of points in the new box. I've got a bunch of stuff half painted too which should give me another few hundred and let me play 2500-3k.
I've started reading the Horus Heresy and it's better than I expected. Hours Rising down, False Gods next.
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I am tempted to just get the solar war books since they have said the previous books are in it from what you need to know story wise but since I have argued with myself about it they have added 3 more books to it
I like to read
I did have a laugh though at a scene in Hereticus: Eisenhorn is flying a "sporty" speeder at the breakneck speed of 45 knots... or 51 mph (at sea level anyway). I think I was driving faster at the time. I don't know if Abnett uses a lot of primary sources in his writing, but ADB does and I think that's one of the reasons I liked Spears so much. I actually sent a message to ADB on his site to contact me if he ever needed a primary source on combat flying (as of yet I haven't gotten any response though
is that allowed
They learned their lesson when prepping for Siege of Terra, which so far is much more dense and coherent given it's still written by separate authors.
Somewhere online, and I'll post it if I can find it, there's a truncated horse heresy reading order that knocks the series down to the essential books for what's actually going on with a broad stroke of the heresy
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I'd like to see this list if you can find it
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Yes but it will make me jealous that Eldar literally aren't allowed cool toys
Listen the Eldar have had more than enough experience with joy toys and last time it ended really badly.
As I am curious about if they make them will they make the artist ones as well
Tyranids is another I am curious about since a warrior is a large figure
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/27/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-sons-of-horus-are-the-real-first-legion/
Legion and Mechanicum are probably my favourite HH books. Master of Mankind is also great. Basically anything by Abnett, ADB or Graham McNeil will be pretty solid. I'm reading Know No Fear at the moment, which has an incredible first act. There's a scene where a capital-class starship falls out of orbit onto a world, and then the same thing happens again.
"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
Ravenor is better than Eisenhorn, of that helps you any.
https://blog.basementofdeath.com/2018/05/01/horus-heresy-reading-guidance/
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They did Genestealer one already
Astartes(several flavours), Sisters, Necron Warrior, Genestealer.
MWO: Adamski
You just gotta convince them to do something crazy, like make a plastic Revenant Titan action figure that is the exact same size as the $400 Forge World resin one.
I know they have as I posted earlier the chaos marines and dark angels coming out
When they showed off the orks and genestealers I said I am curious if they would do an Aeldari of one of the various flavors in basically what I said in the above
Considering some of those action figures are CSM/SM dreadnoughts, it is not merely allowed, it is our duty.
Sidenote, I wish Xenia factions would get even ten percent of the transfer sheet love, the Imperium is getting all the time.
The most interesting bit of that announcement is the primarchs being available to order from the GW webstore. They had done this previously with Tyranid FW kits labeled as 'expert' kits on the GW webstore but only in the UK.
Could we finally be seeing the merging of the two webstores?
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
I want them so badly.
Oh well, if my daughter is anything like me then college wasn't in her future anyway.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705