The [Anime] Adaptation Thread

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    The lack of resource management isn't what makes YGO a bad game considering MTG does have it and it's still a bad game.

    MTG is a good game.

    Any game where you can draw a card and it does nothing interesting is a bad game. Hearthstone got one thing right by making mana increase automatically so all drawn cards have unique effects.

    Buddy, I dunno what to tell you if you think Hearthstone is well designed.

    Yeah because the explicit words of "got one thing right" clearly indicates I hold the remainder in high esteem.

    Lol fair enough.

    But resource draws are an important part of the balance, even if it isn’t ‘fun’ for you. It’s also not fun to draw a card that doesn’t effect the game at all!

    That's what Land is though in MTG. A nothing card that adds to a pool, one per turn if you've got em. It doesn't do anything else outside of special rare types. Hearthstone just automated that +1 it so when a card is drawn you at least know it'll do something for active play rather than passive.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Buddy if my hand is full of gas and I need one more mana to start popping nothing is more hype than drawing a land.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Which means without that Land you would not be able to do anything with the gas . And if there's one thing that irritates me in a card game it's not being able to do anything. It's only hype because a poor mechanic finally let you actually play the game.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Which means without that Land you would not be able to do anything with the gas . And if there's one thing that irritates me in a card game it's not being able to do anything. It's only hype because a poor mechanic finally let you actually play the game.

    I think card games just aren't for you, then! That doesn't make em bad.

    Back to the anime, I find it funny that there are a lot of instances of censorship in the Yu-Gi-Oh anime, but what tends to be funnier are the obvious spinning of Konami execs trying to figure out how to rationalize the stupid bullshit in the manga (i.e. ATTACK THE MOON) with an actual, workable cardgame.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    There's other options of course besides dedicated resource cards and no resources or free resources. Letting any card be played as a resource is something I know some games have done.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    YGO in the anime makes a lot more sense if you just pretend every Duelist is actually just an improv actor and Duelist Kingdom is one big freeform theater camp. Emphasis on the camp, especially for MAXIMILION PEGASUS.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2022
    Madican wrote: »
    YGO in the anime makes a lot more sense if you just pretend every Duelist is actually just an improv actor and Duelist Kingdom is one big freeform theater camp. Emphasis on the camp, especially for MAXIMILION PEGASUS.

    There are a couple things I don't think the anime (or at least the dub) don't really touch on that gives context it. Like that the island introduced new rules in the game, particularly adding locations to it. Which is how you get the maze and ATTACK THE MOON.

    Also how fucking rare the cards are. There are exactly 4 er 3 Blue Eyes White Dragon Cards. There are probably less than 10 Red Eyes black dragon cards. Same with Dark Magician.

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  • IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost This is also my fault Registered User regular
    So far my main takeaways from how Yu-Gi-Oh! (the game within the anime) are:
    • There are no rules. (As I have been told repeatedly in Animenagerie screenings, this is in large part due to the first season of the anime being produced prior to them actually creating rules for the physical card game.)
    • Everyone cheats.
    • Everyone cheats because the consequences for losing are being sent to VHS Hell.
    • You can and probably should summon your monsters in defense mode, but know that doing so is somehow playing exactly into your opponent's plan.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Oh the Shadow Realm is just a 4Kids thing. Everyone trying to send Yugi there is just trying to literally murder him in the actual canon.

    Those magic saws Pandora had that would send whoever they touched to the Shadow Realm? They weren't magic before 4Kids, they were just saws and the loser would have their legs carved off to die of blood loss.

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    https://youtu.be/zR5DoUUovc0

    One Piece Film Red trailer. Potential actual One Piece spoilers?
    Shanks has a daughter?

    Man, the red hair pirates are just the deadbeat dad pirates, mirite?

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Code Geass so far reminds me a lot of more of Game Of Thrones: but anime more than LotGH did. It's wild.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Code Geass so far reminds me a lot of more of Game Of Thrones: but anime more than LotGH did. It's wild.

    I'd say that its ending is substantially better than GoTs.

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  • AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Code Geass so far reminds me a lot of more of Game Of Thrones: but anime more than LotGH did. It's wild.

    I'd say that its ending is substantially better than GoTs.

    not that this is a high bar :P

  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Code Geass so far reminds me a lot of more of Game Of Thrones: but anime more than LotGH did. It's wild.

    I'd say that its ending is substantially better than GoTs.

    not that this is a high bar :P

    Yeah, but Code Geass is like a person tumbling down a mountain, falling off a cliff, going through a skylight, and turning into a quintuple backflip axle perfect dive into a well with no splash.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Code Geass so far reminds me a lot of more of Game Of Thrones: but anime more than LotGH did. It's wild.

    I'd say that its ending is substantially better than GoTs.

    I wasn't a big fan of LotGH's ending either, so I'm hoping it beats that too.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Anzekay wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Code Geass so far reminds me a lot of more of Game Of Thrones: but anime more than LotGH did. It's wild.

    I'd say that its ending is substantially better than GoTs.

    not that this is a high bar :P

    Yeah, but Code Geass is like a person tumbling down a mountain, falling off a cliff, going through a skylight, and turning into a quintuple backflip axle perfect dive into a well with no splash.

    Yeah the ending of Code Geass had absolutely no right to hit as goddamn PERFECTLY as it did. I've forgotten a lot about the show but I will never forget that ending.

    ...and that's also why I REFUSE to watch any of the new stuff because it's George-fucking-Lucas tier in terms of "...But Why."

  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    I somewhat take offense to comparing Lotgh to got cos lotgh is actually good.

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    lotgh's ending is fine. its a "not an ending" ending, because history doesn't end, it keeps going, that's the point of the show to some extent. if you told me the author had like 20 more books past where the OVA ended, I'd believe you

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    It absolutely closes the book though. Its just a history book, instead of a story.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    lotgh's ending is fine. its a "not an ending" ending, because history doesn't end, it keeps going, that's the point of the show to some extent. if you told me the author had like 20 more books past where the OVA ended, I'd believe you

    I just dislike the direction they took with the story. I get where it's going, I just feel like it could've taken a more satisfying arc.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    So I just finished reading all of One Piece. I guess now I have to wait for new chapters, which is bullshit. But at least I can participate in spoiler posting when chapters do drop.

    When I got to Wano and looked at how many more chapters there were, I kind of assumed that the arc would have finished recently. I didn't count on it being bigger than ever.

  • LarsLars Registered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    So I just finished reading all of One Piece. I guess now I have to wait for new chapters, which is bullshit. But at least I can participate in spoiler posting when chapters do drop.

    Can I borrow your hyperbolic time chamber so I can catch up on my Steam backlog?

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    I been rewatching some Dragonball dubbed in Spanish since that's how I grew up watching it.

    Completely had forgotten that they changed Chi Chi's name in the dub because that's slang for Spanish slang for breasts.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I been rewatching some Dragonball dubbed in Spanish since that's how I grew up watching it.

    Completely had forgotten that they changed Chi Chi's name in the dub because that's slang for Spanish slang for breasts.

    Basically means the same thing in Japanese, incidentally

  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2022
    Lars wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    So I just finished reading all of One Piece. I guess now I have to wait for new chapters, which is bullshit. But at least I can participate in spoiler posting when chapters do drop.
    Can I borrow your hyperbolic time chamber so I can catch up on my Steam backlog?
    It took me 2 days to blitz through The Immortal Hulk and that "only" has 50 volumes. One Piece is... woof.

    Glal on
  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Glal wrote: »
    Lars wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    So I just finished reading all of One Piece. I guess now I have to wait for new chapters, which is bullshit. But at least I can participate in spoiler posting when chapters do drop.
    Can I borrow your hyperbolic time chamber so I can catch up on my Steam backlog?
    It took me 2 days to blitz through The Immortal Hulk and that "only" has 50 volumes. One Piece is... woof.

    11 volumes, 50 issues. The distinction is a big difference in US comics. I think Ultimate Spider-Man might be the only US comic that proceeded in the same direction with some (but not all) of the same creatives for nearly that length.

  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    There's other options of course besides dedicated resource cards and no resources or free resources. Letting any card be played as a resource is something I know some games have done.

    Incidentally, the original WoW TCG did this including having some cards have special utility when used as resources and I thought that made for interesting decisions at times as well as opening up fun design space.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Glal wrote: »
    Lars wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    So I just finished reading all of One Piece. I guess now I have to wait for new chapters, which is bullshit. But at least I can participate in spoiler posting when chapters do drop.
    Can I borrow your hyperbolic time chamber so I can catch up on my Steam backlog?
    It took me 2 days to blitz through The Immortal Hulk and that "only" has 50 volumes. One Piece is... woof.

    11 volumes, 50 issues. The distinction is a big difference in US comics. I think Ultimate Spider-Man might be the only US comic that proceeded in the same direction with some (but not all) of the same creatives for nearly that length.

    Gold Digger is celebrating its 30th anniversary this year, every monthly issue written and drawn by the same person (Fred Perry) for the entire run.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Lars wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    So I just finished reading all of One Piece. I guess now I have to wait for new chapters, which is bullshit. But at least I can participate in spoiler posting when chapters do drop.

    Can I borrow your hyperbolic time chamber so I can catch up on my Steam backlog?

    Well, it did take a few weeks. And included weekends spent mostly in bed reading. I kinda binged it the same way I did Elden Ring.

    I'm relieved that it's available (legally) without buying 100 volumes.

  • djmitchelladjmitchella Registered User regular
    edited April 2022
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Glal wrote: »
    Lars wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    So I just finished reading all of One Piece. I guess now I have to wait for new chapters, which is bullshit. But at least I can participate in spoiler posting when chapters do drop.
    Can I borrow your hyperbolic time chamber so I can catch up on my Steam backlog?
    It took me 2 days to blitz through The Immortal Hulk and that "only" has 50 volumes. One Piece is... woof.

    11 volumes, 50 issues. The distinction is a big difference in US comics. I think Ultimate Spider-Man might be the only US comic that proceeded in the same direction with some (but not all) of the same creatives for nearly that length.

    Gold Digger is celebrating its 30th anniversary this year, every monthly issue written and drawn by the same person (Fred Perry) for the entire run.

    Huh, that even beats Cerebus (1977-2004) by a few years, which I'd previously thought was the longest-running thing on a monthly schedule with the same team (Dave Sim and Gerhard).

    I think the record for overall time period with the same team might be Groo, which has the same writer and artist and somehow they've kept the letterer and colorist all these years as well. (Mark Evanier/Sergio Aragones/Stan Sakai (yes, that Stan Sakai)/Tom Luth) That's 1982-2021, though it's not monthly these days, they do mini-series every year or so.

    (there's a lot of other indies out there that have had a long run between first and last issue with the same team/person -- looking on the shelf here, couple of obvious ones would be Flaming Carrot (1984-2006, Bob Burden) and Bone (1991-2004, Jeff Smith), though again not monthly through those times, and there have got to be a bunch more out there that I don't know about. )

    (edit: duh, Usagi Yojimbo's been going since '84 (okay, '87 when he got his own comic -vs- guest appearances) and has been Sakai the whole time. Also there's an animated series of that coming out on Netflix -- the preview video makes me go "hmmmmmmm" but that's because I'm very used to the original art so anything different is going to look weird)

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Fred Perry is a crazy person. He hand animated an entire OVA. And also frequency did guest issues of other books or cranked out extra specials for his own. Not sure if he can still pull that off, but I wouldn't be surprised.

    Unfortunately everything else Antarctic Press publishes is basically trash.

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Normally I'd post Ucheoma in the web comics thread but this one is more appropriate for here.

  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    The answer is, Goku can do anything... apart from being there for his kids.

  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    The answer is, Goku can do anything... apart from being there for his kids.

    An argument could be made that Usagi and Mamoru aren't exactly the best parents either considering some of the events of Sailor Moon R. Not to mention dropping Chibi-Usa on their past selves' laps again in S for I believe 'training' (and probably to close off another time loop). Complete with a barely-intelligible note.

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    Wouldn't be the last note sent to the past either. The co-ruler of future Japan (if not the world?), everyone.

  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    One Piece, regarding the ultimate goal of the strawhat crew
    The Oden flashback showed there being a road ponegliff on Fishman Island and it's not entirely clear to me if that one has been moved or if the strawhats simply missed it.

    Similarly, I think the ponegliff prints Brook got at Big Mom's place included a road ponegliff, but I don't think it was 100% clear.

    It's definitely gonna come up in the manga eventually, but it'll probably take a while.

  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Fred Perry is a crazy person. He hand animated an entire OVA. And also frequency did guest issues of other books or cranked out extra specials for his own. Not sure if he can still pull that off, but I wouldn't be surprised.

    Unfortunately everything else Antarctic Press publishes is basically trash.

    and he draws smut

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    So I just finished reading all of One Piece. I guess now I have to wait for new chapters, which is bullshit. But at least I can participate in spoiler posting when chapters do drop.

    When I got to Wano and looked at how many more chapters there were, I kind of assumed that the arc would have finished recently. I didn't count on it being bigger than ever.

    Hell of a series, ain't it?

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    They have been on Wano for a while.

    Fortunately, it's paying off a lot of shit and being very rewarding as a result.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    one piece, where every arc is longer than the last

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Hell, we're just getting through Ennies Lobby (I've read up to Fishman's Saga, I think)

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