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Hot off the heels of the 20th anniversary of the original Xbox console, it's the last Xbox on console, PC and cloud streaming thread of 2021! That's right, I said it! It's where we talk about backwards compatibility, absurd demand for limited-run controllers, the inescapable subscription-dominated future, Xbox Game Streaming still not being on the Switch, and the mental gymnastics necessary to explain how "exclusive" doesn't really mean "exclusive" when Bethesda Studios says it. It surely doesn't!

Games with Gold

The original unified network for consoles is still alive (and still required for most online multiplayer)! Since the beginning of time, users with an "Xbox Live Gold" paid membership will have four free titles made available for download for a limited time--two on Xbox One (which require continued membership) and two on Xbox 360 or original Xbox (which are yours in perpetuity). As with the previous generation, all four are playable Xbox Series consoles. Yes, you do need to actually obtain them within the overlapping four-week opportunity window. Yes, you can get Xbox Live Gold through a normal subscription fee, buying discounted months of membership through vendors, or abusing Xbox's overly-generous reward program. While original Xbox titles are not playable on original hardware (for obvious reasons), all Xbox 360 titles are (more on that below).

Xbox and PC Game Pass or "The Best Value in Gaming!"



Xbox Game Pass (for consoles) is Microsoft's own subscription gaming catalog service ("Netflix for video games") with hundreds of periodically rotating first and third-party titles across four generations of console hardware, making it attractive for digital-only libraries and people who want to try first party new exclusives (which will make the rounds on the service at the time of their launch). Likewise, the renamed PC Game Pass (for Windows 10 and 11) features an overlapping but different library with a number of PC-only titles that can be installed through the Windows Store App or Xbox App, or in the case of EA titles, the separate installation service EA Play. However, both services come with their own separate fees--If you want them both, you may wish to consider the Cadillac of Netflix for Games, Xbox Game Pass Ultimate: for less than the combined cost of both services, you can have your Game Pass and Xbox Live Gold subscriptions in a single plan! Because nothing bad ever came from bundling services! For the time being, it remains possible to extend your Game Pass subscription based on unrelated services "credit" (for example, one year of EA Access translates to four months of Game Pass Ultimate), so make sure you do your research when you're stocking up. Oh yeah, it's complicated.

In either service, there is no limit on how many games you can download and install from it, and access is for as long as the subscription holds--permanent purchases made from the catalog are discounted 20%, and DLC by 10%. It still does not require Xbox Live Gold (though that is part of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate). Since 2020, Game Pass Ultimate comes with an additional perk you may be familiar with...

Xbox Game Streaming



Like Google's Stadia that everyone's been talking used to talk about about and the Playstation Now service that Sony never talks about, Xbox Game Streaming (formerly "Project Xcloud") replaces your grandparents' Xbox game from the ancient era of streaming a console over your home network to the sexy future of piping your game in from The Cloud onto not just your mobile devices (so long as they're not made by Nintendo), but also Xbox One and Xbox Series consoles! No longer in free beta, it is now available as a benefit from the Game Pass Ultimate. Play console-quality games on mobile! Take advantage of all the normal Xbox Live services! Drain your phone battery before you know it! Still probably not coming to your favorite non-Xbox console no matter how hard you ask!

Streaming available in the following regions, courtesy of XDA-Developers:
  • Austria
  • Belgium
  • Canada
  • Czech Republic
  • Denmark
  • Finland
  • France
  • Germany
  • Hungary
  • Ireland
  • Italy
  • Netherlands
  • Norway
  • Poland
  • Portugal
  • Slovakia
  • South Korea
  • Spain
  • Sweden
  • Switzerland
  • United Kingdom
  • United States

A full list of current Xbox Game Streaming titles is available courtesy of the excellent Windows Central website, alongside a full list of touch-compatible titles which are playable without the prerequisite compatible controller.

Xbox Backwards Compatibility Library



Say hello to the most extensive backwards compatibility library since Sony left the Playstation 3 unconscious in a bathtub full of ice! Since early in the Project Scarlett reveal, Xbox has committed to bringing the whole of the Xbox One library forward to the Xbox Series consoles, alongside the existing Xbox One-era software backwards compatibilty libraries on all previous Xbox consoles since 2001 excluding Kinect-based titles on Xbox 360 and Xbox One. Yes, we are as shocked as you. After capping the 20th Anniversary Showcase with more than seventy additions from the original Xbox and Xbox 360, the powers that be have sorrowfully turned the page on further additions from 2012 and earlier (at least for now), though all new Xbox One releases are playable. In the meantime, pour one out for those games who couldn't be here with us.

Curious if your favorite Xbox 360 or original Xbox game is playable? Check it out!

Xbox Series S and Series X joining Xbox One

Yes, both of the new consoles are still frequently sold out. For the luckier among us, here's some of what we're looking forward to in 2022. Watch out for spoilers!





















Xbox 20th Anniversary Showcase

Oh, god, we're all so old!















2021 Xbox Summer Games Showcase (ft. Bethesda and a bunch of other companies)!



(Captioned Audio and ASL versions available on Xbox's Youtube Channel.)



































































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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    That's a lotta dimp!

    Andy JoeSynthesisBlackDragon480
  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    That's a lotta dimp!

    All the context for this. Ever.

    ShadowfireZilla360
  • M-VickersM-Vickers Registered User regular
    Starfield is now less than 11 months away.

    I’m looking forward to seeing some actual gameplay next year, maybe at E3 ?

    I want this to be good. I loved The Outer Worlds, so a bigger, less whacky space sci-fi RPG sounds amazing.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    I smell a delay but guess we'll see

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  • SirialisSirialis of the Halite Throne. Registered User regular
    I just wish it wouldnt be running on that Creation/Gamebryo engine.

    Just let the thing die already.

  • M-VickersM-Vickers Registered User regular
    Sirialis wrote: »
    I just wish it wouldnt be running on that Creation/Gamebryo engine.

    Just let the thing die already.

    No, its OK.

    Its and *updated* version !

    I'm looking forward to warping into a new solar system, and seeing all the planets jump up a fraction.

    Then a moon falls off the map.

    NitsuaJazzrahkeesh2000Zilla360Frem
  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    Aww, no gift guides in the OP? ;)
    Andy Joe wrote: »
    Picked up Skyrim Anniversary, Gears Tactics, and both Halo Wars in the sale.

    I got Yakuza 0, with an eye towards Epic Mickey 2, Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair, maybe some Renegade and Double Dragon later.

    I also grabbed Freedom Planet on the Switch the same day as Yakuza 0. I only mention this because I really, really wish it was on Xbox.
    Series X in the wild at Target.

    Not just the fridge, I hope.

    ...or do I? Hmm...

    I seriously want one, though, if for no other reason than so I can do a "Never talk to me or my son or my son's son ever again" meme picture.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    There were some Series S there, also.

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    I grabbed Assassin's Creeds Odyssey (Gold Edition with the season pass) and Valhalla (Deluxe Edition with the smaller stuff but it was literally 40 pence more than the base game).

    Those might keep me going for a long time.

  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    I left my GotG disc in my XSX so I can test out remote play while on Christmas vacation. It will be interesting to see how/if that works.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    M-Vickers wrote: »
    Sirialis wrote: »
    I just wish it wouldnt be running on that Creation/Gamebryo engine.

    Just let the thing die already.

    No, its OK.

    Its and *updated* version !

    I'm looking forward to warping into a new solar system, and seeing all the planets jump up a fraction.

    Then a moon falls off the map.

    "Planetary orbits are known to malfunction at over 60 FPS. This is a known issue. We're expecting a mod correcting this that will keep planets from orbiting backwards at 120 FPS, but it will require SFSE (Starfield Script Extender), which has not yet been updated from 1.x9 on Xbox Series consoles."

    On a completely unrelated note, I just discovered that Psychonauts 2 has a 120 hz mode. The picture is decidedly softer (though I was playing it on an exercise bicycle barely two meters from my 65" screen), and I'm still terrible at platforming, but it's pretty darn neat.

    Jazz
  • Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular

    that's a pretty good price for a really good piece of kit.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
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    Game journo's: too many sequels!!!!

    Also game journo's: can you spare a crumb of sequel please 🥺

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  • CarpyCarpy Registered User regular
    That's tempting. Currently using a pair of turtle beach stealth 600 and they work fine mostly, but lately I've noticed a lot of distortion in the music of Witcher & Wheel of Time. The orchestral score doesn't seem to play nice with the headphones.

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Enough predictable sequels, I want some unpredictable sequels!

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    I love the Xbox headset, honestly I might scoop one just as a backup incase the ones I use break (I'm rough on this stuff apparently)

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    The Xbox headset really is remarkably good.

    Wraith260
  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    edited January 2
    posted this in the holiday forums, reposting here:
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    Getting my clown makeup ready just in case this turns out to be nothing, but here we go: (posted here because no Xbox thread)
    TrueAchievements is a site that tracks Xbox achievements using Microsoft's APIs and such, and allows users to track the achievements they have, what achievements they want, overall leaderboards, etc.
    A new list of achievements for an unannounced game just popped up in the system about an hour ago and was added to TA (and also fellow achievement site ExoPhase):
    Goldeneye 007 https://www.trueachievements.com/game/GoldenEye-007/achievements

    So some interesting things here
    1. These achievements have new art, featuring widescreen screenshots of the original N64 game. (Here's a bigger shot from one of them) These were not present in the leaked version of the canceled Xbox 360 remake.
    2. Several of these achievements have been earned by 1 or 2 players. One of them, BIGsheep, is a programmer and designer at Rare.
    3. The achievements were reportedly earned in October according to the data. Also back in October, Goldeneye was taken off the restricted materials list of the German game rating board and rerated, seemingly out of the blue.
    4. There are 1000 Gamerscore worth of achievements in this, which is far more than the usual 200 Gamerscore of Xbox Live Arcade games that would have been the norm when the 360 version was to be released.
    So is this the formerly canned remake, now finally getting finished and released after the nearly complete game was leaked earlier this year? Or is this a new remake?

    Crippl3 on
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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    I turned Christmas cash into MS Funbucks, which then turned into Lost in Random, and...

    It is certainly charming in an 'I watched Corpse Bride and Nightmare Before Christmas on repeat for eight days a week while in development' way, and the card/dice based combat is interesting. Your deck is limited to 15 cards, and even then you might not roll high enough to play some of them, so you need to sprinkle in 0 cost cards for help, but...

    The collision detection is rough and the facial animation is very amateurish. Characters have one mouth/face move that just repeats while they are talking. It's distracting.

    Not bad for the sale price of $20.

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    That's awesome. :+1:

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    So the holidays put my new Xbox 360 ambitions on hold, but now I'm back on track.



    That said, I was watching this video before bed (only up to the 360 part right now), and I was reminded of something:

    Do the 360 S and 360 E each come with one of those giant power bricks like the original?

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    So the holidays put my new Xbox 360 ambitions on hold, but now I'm back on track.



    That said, I was watching this video before bed (only up to the 360 part right now), and I was reminded of something:

    Do the 360 S and 360 E each come with one of those giant power bricks like the original?

    S does, although it's significantly less giant than the original; closer to the size of the one that came with the original Xbox One, but more rounded in shape. E appears to have one of a similar size to the S, although it has a different plug on it.

    I think Xbox One S and X were the first ones since the OG Xbox to not have external power bricks.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    I had stopped in at my Target mid last week and there was a single XsX on the shelf. Perhaps that means it will become easier to get one this coming year.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    So the holidays put my new Xbox 360 ambitions on hold, but now I'm back on track.



    That said, I was watching this video before bed (only up to the 360 part right now), and I was reminded of something:

    Do the 360 S and 360 E each come with one of those giant power bricks like the original?

    Love this video/channel. I even went and bought the crystal Xbox after watching it lmao
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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited January 3
    So the holidays put my new Xbox 360 ambitions on hold, but now I'm back on track.



    That said, I was watching this video before bed (only up to the 360 part right now), and I was reminded of something:

    Do the 360 S and 360 E each come with one of those giant power bricks like the original?

    Love this video/channel. I even went and bought the crystal Xbox after watching it lmao

    What's all this video game crap in the way of the Sakura Wars first OVA on VHS?
    Seriously though, Shin Cutey Honey and New Dominion Tank Police and the first Tenchi Universe movie? Damn, I can't recall the time I saw such excellent taste in an VHS library.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen I thought I knew what I was talking about, but I don'tRegistered User regular
    Was able to get an X yesterday afternoon at Gamestop. It was a bundle thing but I write it off, I can give the games to friends or just throw them at people and if I hit them, they can keep them. It's really pathetic that I don't even care to play COD or FarCry6 and the NBA 2K22 is apparently the series X version only going by the box art on the front but whatever.

    The load times are very noticeable, and it is very quiet right now but I haven't played a disc game yet so maybe Tales of Arise will make it take off like my One X was. I've got it horizontal to fit in the entertainment shelf but it has air all the way around. Probably gonna wrap the system like my One X because it looks more like a subwoofer.

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  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    edited January 3
    Heads up Final Fantasy fans and Game Pass users, FF12 is being added to PS Now tomorrow: https://blog.playstation.com/2022/01/03/playstation-now-games-for-january-2022-mortal-kombat-11-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age-fury-unleashed/
    Every time they add a Final Fantasy game to PS Now, they take it off of Game Pass; so if you're like me and just started FF12, you should probably hurry up lol

    Crippl3 on
  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    How badly do you want to kill enthusiasm for a game? Delete all saves by accident after ~15 hours of gameplay and think about how you will need to start all over for being a bonehead.

    Cyberpunk is going great! Why do you ask?

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  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    :bro:

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    So the holidays put my new Xbox 360 ambitions on hold, but now I'm back on track.



    That said, I was watching this video before bed (only up to the 360 part right now), and I was reminded of something:

    Do the 360 S and 360 E each come with one of those giant power bricks like the original?

    Love this video/channel. I even went and bought the crystal Xbox after watching it lmao

    What's all this video game crap in the way of the Sakura Wars first OVA on VHS?
    Seriously though, Shin Cutey Honey and New Dominion Tank Police and the first Tenchi Universe movie? Damn, I can't recall the time I saw such excellent taste in an VHS library.

    This pic is a few weeks old so I've accumulated even more niche anime VHS lmao

    Also picked up Evil Dead: A Fistful of Broomstick, Max Payne 1 and Enter the Matrix to add to my OG Xbox collection.

    The only thing that bothers me about my crystal Xbox is it didn't come with the matching controller (and finding one on its own is proving difficult haha)

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Fist Full of Boomstick

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Fucken autocorrect

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  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    Fucking autocorrect

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Fixing airtight

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Fraternal aristocrats

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    Fundamental astronauts

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    I like typing fucken that way it's funnier to me

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    A lake trip in fun can bat away at bunny ears. Sue me.

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