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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    I wanted to add RDR2 but I'm afraid of being thought of as basic

    Do it

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    There are in fact many different versions of tetris, they even completely change the way spinning works at some point, I'm defaulting to the Game Boy version based on your post

    We don't need no T-flips or Z-flips or whatever they are

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    sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Booger CoveRegistered User regular
    -- Remove Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures
    -- Add Super Monkey Ball

    Current list (50):
    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Aldo 1: Aldo's Adventure
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Fun School 2
    -- Gitaroo Man
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- The Logical Journey of the Zoombinis
    -- Marble Drop
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- MidAir
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Rock Band
    -- Rune Factory 4
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles)
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    The list as it stands:


    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Aldo 1: Aldo's Adventure
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Fun School 2
    -- Gitaroo Man
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- The Logical Journey of the Zoombinis
    -- Marble Drop
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Metroid: Zero Mission
    -- MidAir
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    --Remove Gitaroo Man
    --Add Cities: Skylines

    The list as it stands(50):

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Aldo 1: Aldo's Adventure
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Fun School 2
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- The Logical Journey of the Zoombinis
    -- Marble Drop
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Metroid: Zero Mission
    -- MidAir
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    MidniteMidnite Registered User regular
    --Remove The Logical Journey of the Zoombinis
    --Add Resident Evil 2 (2019)

    The list as it stands(50):

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Aldo 1: Aldo's Adventure
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Fun School 2
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Drop
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Metroid: Zero Mission
    -- MidAir
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Is Skyline the one with the Cock Disasters dlc

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Is Skyline the one with the Cock Disasters dlc

    wat

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Is Skyline the one with the Cock Disasters dlc

    wat

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    I wouldn't call it a disaster, per se

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    Remove: Fun School 2
    Add: Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction

    The list as it stands(50):

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Aldo 1: Aldo's Adventure
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Drop
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Metroid: Zero Mission
    -- MidAir
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Is Skyline the one with the Cock Disasters dlc

    wat

    2018 EPYC

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    One hundred percent good changes so far. I wasn't sure how many of those choices were joke posts.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    One hundred percent good changes so far. I wasn't sure how many of those choices were joke posts.

    I mean, it's SE++, if Barbie Horse Adventures doesn't end up on the list I'll be surprised.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Remove: Marble Drop
    Add: Marble Madness

    The list as it stands(50):

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Aldo 1: Aldo's Adventure
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Metroid: Zero Mission
    -- MidAir
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Remove: Aldo 1: Aldo's Adventure
    Add: Picross 3D: Round 2

    The list as it stands(50):

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Metroid: Zero Mission
    -- MidAir
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Is Skyline the one with the Cock Disasters dlc

    wat

    2018 EPYC

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Remove: MidAir
    Add: Final Fantasy XIV

    Really, how was that not on the list yet? :rotate:

    The list as it stands(50):

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Final Fantasy XIV
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Metroid: Zero Mission
    -- MidAir
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Remove: Metroid Zero Mission
    Add: Super Metroid.

    ZM was great but really it's just another adventure in the template and genre that Super created. And while ZM has better controls, Super is overall a better experience IMO, at least in terms of exploration and atmosphere.

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- MidAir
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Metroid
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner



    edit- apologies for initially messing up the formatting there

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    The list as it stands:

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Metroid
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

    As MMOs and live service games can make drastic changes between expansion packs, unless a season or expansion is specified, the base product at release will be considered as the default entry (Exceptions may be made on a case by case basis, but I'm going to judge Lich King and Pandaria very differently, as an example)

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    The list as it stands:

    -SNIP-

    As MMOs and live service games can make drastic changes between expansion packs, unless a season or expansion is specified, the base product at release will be considered as the default entry (Exceptions may be made on a case by case basis, but I'm going to judge Lich King and Pandaria very differently, as an example)

    Then I'll go ahead and make the needed correction to Endwalker.

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Metroid
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Team Fortress 2
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    HeadCreepsHeadCreeps NOW IS THE TIME FOR DRINKING! Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Remove: Team Fortress 2
    Add: Shadow of the Colossus

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Liero
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Shadow of the Colossus
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Metroid
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    If we're going to have a single numbered final fantasy on the list XIV is not the one I'd choose but I recognize that other people like it so I won't mess with it.

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Look, we don't need both Liero and Soldat, it's redundant. Especially with other defining multiplayer PvP shooters like Quake and TF2 on the list.

    Instead, I propose adding what is the pinncle of single player action game experiences in the current market, with one of the most refined controller-user gamefeels, where every hack, slash, and dodge roll builds to a beautiful ballet of murder, gore, and frying pan violence.

    Remove: Liero
    Add: Dead Cells

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Dead Cells
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Shadow of the Colossus
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Metroid
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

    EDIT: apparently TF2 is no longer on the list.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Remove: Dark Souls
    Add: Dark Souls 2

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls 2
    -- Dead Cells
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Shadow of the Colossus
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Metroid
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Fishman wrote: »
    Look, we don't need both Liero and Soldat, it's redundant. Especially with other defining multiplayer PvP shooters like Quake and TF2 on the list.

    Instead, I propose adding what is the pinncle of single player action game experiences in the current market, with one of the most refined controller-user gamefeels, where every hack, slash, and dodge roll builds to a beautiful ballet of murder, gore, and frying pan violence.

    Remove: Liero
    Add: Dead Cells

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls
    -- Dead Cells
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Shadow of the Colossus
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Soldat
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles
    -- Super Metroid
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

    EDIT: apparently TF2 is no longer on the list.

    What do you think about Hades over Dead Cells?

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    discrider wrote: »
    Well, we're at 50 games on here, so, ya knew this was coming...

    -- Remove Puyo Puyo Tetris 2
    -- Add Tetris (there's more than one? Gameboy SNES or whatever)

    Alright, welp, time to make my case

    I think it is entirely reasonable to fight for the original GameBoy Tetris to be on this list. It's not the first Tetris, but it's an early one, and is sort of the posterboy for "classic" Tetris. If you think of Tetris, your mind probably snaps to the GameBoy or the NES version. Basically everyone's played them, and I mean everyone; your grandma might suddenly reveal that she's just low-key one of the best Tetris players in the world, and that rules. It's fuckin' Tetris, it doesn't need me arguing for it.

    Some folks tend to balk at modern Tetris, which enshrines former exploits like T-spins into its ruleset and which gives you the option to hold onto a block, or if you're really nitpicky you might be upset about the grab-bag RNG that ensures an equal distribution of pieces. Tetris is a very beloved, very simple, very pure game, so I understand the negative reaction to changing even one hair on its head. That said, if you really spend a lot of time deep into Tetris, these changes all make a lot of sense. They open the game up to a greater degree of strategic decisions, which are particularly valuable in the competitive variation of the game, but which also allow for tactical thought and expressivity even in solo play, without intruding on the core identity of the game; do you go for straightforward Tetrises or higher-scoring T-spins that are more complicated to set up? Do you use your Hold to save a valuable piece or to send an inconvenient piece away? These are absolutely changes for the better. Watching a pro play Old Tetris is still pretty dazzling, because it's like watching someone wrestle a freight train, and it's super impressive to see someone bend such a stubborn, unforgiving game any which way they want to. High-level play of modern Tetris is still beautiful in its own right though. There's an elegance to it, and it moves so fast that you can barely even parse individual moves, even though you can follow the overarching flow of the game. If this appeal fails I'm definitely still gonna be fighting tooth and nail to get some version of modern Tetris on the list alongside the old variety. I think Tetris is a Big Enough Deal that it can justify two slots on the list.

    Puyo Puyo is much less popular, especially in the west, but it's a fascinating game. It's extremely simple on its face, with a ruleset that doesn't look that different from say, Candy Crush. But a few key differences in its rulest make it a game with nigh-on infinite depth. Combine that with its focus on two-player versus and it is in my opinion sincerely one of the greatest competitive games ever made, with a skill ceiling that rivals or exceeds most fighting games but controls and rules that are so simple that I understood how it worked when I was 5. Just like with Tetris, if this appeal doesn't do it for anybody I'm prepared to get real annoying and burn a lotta posts to get some version or another of Puyo Puyo on the list.

    Puyo Puyo Tetris is the Reese's Cup of competitive puzzlers. Mashing up two of the greatest puzzle games ever made is a brilliant idea, and the PPT games have as much fun with the concept as they can. You can play Tetris vs. someone playing Puyo. You can play party game modes that drop Tetris blocks and Puyos into the same well. You can play my favorite mode, Swap, where you play Tetris against an opponent for 25 seconds before switching over to a Puyo board, which then switches back after another 25 seconds, forcing both players to keep both games in their head simultaneously and allowing for combo chains that extend across both boards. You can just play Tetris vs. Tetris or Puyo vs. Puyo, or play both games in single player. There's a tutorial mode with "lessons" designed by pro-level players of both games to help you get your hands on the lower rungs of the ladder to high-level play. There's an entire story mode that's basically a light-hearted, cartoonish visual novel about the cast of Puyo Puyo meeting aliens from a Tetris dimension; visual novels are generally not really my speed so I'll admit that this mode sort of fails to hold my interest, but my point in bringing it up is that it's really a package that has something for everyone. As for why PPT2 specifically, It's mostly a toss-up between it and PPT1. 2 has more playable characters (which ultimately matter very little, but still) and just a little extra visual flair, but they are functionally the exact same game. I'd be perfectly happy with either of them being here.

    But honestly, actual virtues of the game aside, I'd say that someone should put Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 onto the list just to stop me from trying to eat up two slots with different versions of Puyo Puyo and modern Tetris. This is the most efficient way to get both games on the list. This block is droppin' no matter what, and I think we'd all be happier if we just T-spun it into an open cranny instead of letting it pile up on top.

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    Do we really need Marble Madness and Super Monkey Ball?

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    There are many reasons why I wish I wasn't colorblind, but Puyo Puyo is surprisingly high up that list

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    There are many reasons why I wish I wasn't colorblind, but Puyo Puyo is surprisingly high up that list

    yeah that's definitely a knock against it

    the beans are all different shapes but those differences start to become a lot less distinct when they start sticking together

    I think modern Puyo games like PPT and Puyo Puyo Champions have colorblind options but it's been a while since I've poked around in their options menus so i don't wanna say that for certain

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    MidniteMidnite Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    I have a bit of good news for you then!

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    edit: whoops, huge pic

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    There are many reasons why I wish I wasn't colorblind, but Puyo Puyo is surprisingly high up that list

    yeah that's definitely a knock against it

    the beans are all different shapes but those differences start to become a lot less distinct when they start sticking together

    I think modern Puyo games like PPT and Puyo Puyo Champions have colorblind options but it's been a while since I've poked around in their options menus so i don't wanna say that for certain

    The problem is partially tied to the competitive nature of the game, honestly

    I can evaluate by shapes and whatnot, but I can't take in the board at a glance. It takes me a microsecond to examine the piece and check where it needs to go on the board. Each piece is just another fraction of a moment that I fall behind on, and I get creamed just on processing speed

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    edited January 2022
    important clarification that we should probably get out in front of @WeedLordVegeta

    to what degree are ports of games considered distinct

    like, is Destiny (PS4) a different game from Destiny (Xbox One)? My gut says no. But then, what about say, Destiny (PS3)? Basically the same game again but you could make a case that the lower graphical quality and inferior network backend make it a distinct experience.

    What about ports with version-exclusive features? Do the Zelda items in Skyrim (Switch) make it a separate game from Skyrim (Xbox 360)? Again, my gut kinda says no, but I can see the argument. But on the other hand, the modability of Skyrim (PC) makes it possible to make Skyrim so radically different that I'd have a hard time arguing that it isn't a unique experience from the console versions. Or heck, forget about mods, just being able to pull up the console at will is a massive game changer

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    What do you think about Hades over Dead Cells?

    This is something I was thinking about the other night when the other thread inspired me to bang out a list, although I didn't end up posting it.

    I love the story telling in Hades, but I can't play it endlessly back to back to back like I can Dead Cells.

    The story in Hades beats Dead Cells hands down, and the gameplay is excellent. The sheer volume of character speech is pretty amazing, I'll still play it occasionally and hear new things.

    As a game, I think that Dead Cells has more decision points than Hades both in terms of builds and also that it has a branching system for zones you can pass through. That works for me in a roguelike. Also it. just. feels. so. good.


    Dark Souls 2 I have a real soft spot for, and the DLC is some of the best Dark Souls there is. Personally I fall somewhere around 1>2>3. But they are all great for different reasons.

    Liero and Soldat are relatively interchangeable, so I think losing one now is fine.


    Edit: For as much time as I put into Tetris on Gameboy, Tetris DS is where I land on it.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    important clarification that we should probably get out in front of WeedLordVegeta

    to what degree are ports of games considered distinct

    like, is Destiny (PS4) a different game from Destiny (Xbox One)? My gut says no. But then, what about say, Destiny (PS3)? Basically the same game but you could make a case that the lower graphical quality and inferior network backend make it a distinct experience.

    What about ports with version-exclusive features? Do the Zelda items in Skyrim (Switch) make it a separate game from Skyrim (Xbox 360)? Again, my gut kinda says no, but I can see the argument. But on the other hand, the modability of Skyrim (PC) makes it possible to make Skyrim so radically different that I'd have a hard time arguing that it isn't a unique experience from the console versions.

    I think generally speaking that if a version of a game is distinct enough where the platform's strengths or weaknesses are core to the argument (we WILL see an argument for metroid prime trilogy at some point, I bet), that version should be submitted as its own entry

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Kelor wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    What do you think about Hades over Dead Cells?

    This is something I was thinking about the other night when the other thread inspired me to bang out a list, although I didn't end up posting it.

    I love the story telling in Hades, but I can't play it endlessly back to back to back like I can Dead Cells.

    The story in Hades beats Dead Cells hands down, and the gameplay is excellent. The sheer volume of character speech is pretty amazing, I'll still play it occasionally and hear new things.

    As a game, I think that Dead Cells has more decision points than Hades both in terms of builds and also that it has a branching system for zones you can pass through. That works for me in a roguelike. Also it. just. feels. so. good.


    Dark Souls 2 I have a real soft spot for, and the DLC is some of the best Dark Souls there is. Personally I fall somewhere around 1>2>3. But they are all great for different reasons.

    Liero and Soldat are relatively interchangeable, so I think losing one now is fine.

    I feel like there's a place for both, but I'm not going to start elbowing three games that are in my personal top five that need to be in there just yet.

    My main knock against Dead Cells, while recognizing how important it is, is that it's just so hard. I never can get anywhere while Hades has just enough handholding so I have been able to complete it so many times.

    One of Supergiants games need to be up there for sure.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    If we're going to have a single numbered final fantasy on the list XIV is not the one I'd choose but I recognize that other people like it so I won't mess with it.

    What? Nobody said we can only have a single numbered final fantasy. If you've got a favorite FF you want on there, go right ahead. I put on XIV because it's an outstanding game in its own right. (Though the amount of love it shows to the entire rest of the franchise doesn't hurt)

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Remove: Soldat
    Add: Spelunky

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls 2
    -- Dead Cells
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Lode runner
    -- Marble Madness
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Shadow of the Colossus
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles)
    -- Spelunky
    -- Super Metroid
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

    I think I managed to grab the correct previous version of the list.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Remove: Marble Madness
    Add: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door

    (Note: Added Spelunky)

    -- Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
    -- Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    -- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    -- Cities: Skylines
    -- City of Heroes
    -- Dark Souls 2
    -- Dead Cells
    -- Deus Ex
    -- Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction
    -- Disco Elysium
    -- Dr. Mario & Puzzle League
    -- Driver: San Francisco
    -- Etrian Odyssey V
    -- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
    -- Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker
    -- Guild Wars: Factions
    -- Hollow Knight
    -- Homeworld
    -- Ico
    -- Katamari Damacy
    -- Kentucky Route Zero
    -- Legend of Mana
    -- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
    -- Lode runner
    -- Mario Kart: Double Dash
    -- Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    -- Pathologic 2
    -- Picross 3D: Round 2
    -- Outer Wilds
    -- Quake
    -- Resident Evil 2 (2019)
    -- Rock Band
    -- Saints Row 2
    -- Shadow of the Colossus
    -- Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
    -- Sid Meier’s Pirates! (2004)
    -- Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (& Knuckles)
    -- Spelunky
    -- Super Metroid
    -- Super Monkey Ball
    -- Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (2010)
    -- Terraria
    -- Tetris (Game Boy)
    -- Threes!
    -- Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    -- Warpath (97)
    -- Wasteland (1998)
    -- XCOM: UFO Defense (1994)
    -- Xenoblade Chronicles X
    -- Zone of the Enders 2: The Second Runner

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    How are we treating compilations?

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    How are we treating compilations?

    Are you talking like a final fantasy origins or a warioware

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