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    ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Flarne wrote: »
    My brother had a kidney stone that they needed to break up with ultrasound. Apparently the pain is crazy but it’s very hard to find painkillers that work for it, so instead they have him something with the side effect of short term memory loss so he wouldn’t be traumatized by the pain.

    He remembers going in for the procedure and then sitting on the bus back home.

    ???

    Are you sure he wasn't simply put under? Like, I don't remember the procedure for getting my wisdom teeth removed, I just remember waking up at home with a ton of gauze in my mouth - but in that case I was transported by my mother, who would gladly tell you about all the delirious stuff I was trying to write down during the missing time.

    Either way, seems irresponsible for the practitioner to utilize such a drug without someone to accompany your brother while he was under the influence.

    For real, same for me when I had my wisdom teeth, they put me under and they wouldn't even schedule the surgery itself without confirmation that we had someone with me to take me home out of the waiting room after the surgery. Letting someone try to get home on their own faculties after full-anesthesia is ludicrous

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    I don't think they use generals in dentistry very much anymore. Turns out, it's extremely dangerous! When I got my wisdom teeth yanked in 2018 they just used a local, and I walked home the quarter mile.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Locals are very difficult to work on me. In the last three dental visits it took 5+ shots and nearly half an hour before my face even started to tingle. Towards the end of the work I was already regaining feeling.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Locals are very difficult to work on me. In the last three dental visits it took 5+ shots and nearly half an hour before my face even started to tingle. Towards the end of the work I was already regaining feeling.

    Red hair?

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Last time I had surgery scheduled I spent a lot of time around 2 AM trying to figure out if there was any way to tell the difference between an actual anesthetic and a really effective paralytic+amnestic.

    Well that's a seed I didn't need planted in my brain should I have surgery in the future.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Locals are very difficult to work on me. In the last three dental visits it took 5+ shots and nearly half an hour before my face even started to tingle. Towards the end of the work I was already regaining feeling.

    Red hair?

    Bingo

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    I also need a ton of locals to numb my face for dental work

    When I got a bunch of teeth taken out from the top they put a full 7 vials of septicain up in me.

    My wisdom teeth were easy though. One vial each side and they scooped them right out like no time at all. I still have the bottom right one but it's in ok and doesn't have any neighbors so...

    Uriel on
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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    My wife has a blood disorder that caused her white blood cells to start attacking her red blood cells when she was like 6 and her spleen had to be removed because it was so inflamed. Apparently it was the size of a football and she was not a large 6 year old. Hereditary blood disorders kinda suck and we might not have kids because of it. No guarantee she passes it on but it's likely.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Locals are very difficult to work on me. In the last three dental visits it took 5+ shots and nearly half an hour before my face even started to tingle. Towards the end of the work I was already regaining feeling.

    Red hair?

    Bingo

    Huh, is that a thing? I'm relatively resistant to painkillers too and also have a touch of red hair. Had no idea those were correlated.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Locals are very difficult to work on me. In the last three dental visits it took 5+ shots and nearly half an hour before my face even started to tingle. Towards the end of the work I was already regaining feeling.

    Red hair?

    Bingo

    Huh, is that a thing? I'm relatively resistant to painkillers too and also have a touch of red hair. Had no idea those were correlated.

    Yup, red hair correlates to higher pain tolerance as well as anaesthetic resistance

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    FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Flarne wrote: »
    My brother had a kidney stone that they needed to break up with ultrasound. Apparently the pain is crazy but it’s very hard to find painkillers that work for it, so instead they have him something with the side effect of short term memory loss so he wouldn’t be traumatized by the pain.

    He remembers going in for the procedure and then sitting on the bus back home.

    ???

    Are you sure he wasn't simply put under? Like, I don't remember the procedure for getting my wisdom teeth removed, I just remember waking up at home with a ton of gauze in my mouth - but in that case I was transported by my mother, who would gladly tell you about all the delirious stuff I was trying to write down during the missing time.

    Either way, seems irresponsible for the practitioner to utilize such a drug without someone to accompany your brother while he was under the influence.

    For real, same for me when I had my wisdom teeth, they put me under and they wouldn't even schedule the surgery itself without confirmation that we had someone with me to take me home out of the waiting room after the surgery. Letting someone try to get home on their own faculties after full-anesthesia is ludicrous

    He wasn’t alone. You’re allowed to ride buses with friends.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    i would like to never have kidney stones, please and thank you

    I've had two or three, can't super remember. They are in the top ten most painful experiences I've had (if you lump in most of the epididymitis together) but not quite in the top five.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    General anaesthetic is one of the wildest experiences I've had. I always assumed it would be like falling asleep but it was more like someone just flipped a switch and turned my brain off.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    General anaesthetic is one of the wildest experiences I've had. I always assumed it would be like falling asleep but it was more like someone just flipped a switch and turned my brain off.

    It absolutely terrifies me. I first experienced it getting my wisdom teeth taken out, and I was so fucking freaked out by it before and after (well, after all the drugs wore off). The only other two times were getting circumcised and for heart surgery, and I had other things to worry about then

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Locals are very difficult to work on me. In the last three dental visits it took 5+ shots and nearly half an hour before my face even started to tingle. Towards the end of the work I was already regaining feeling.

    Red hair?

    Bingo

    I haven't encountered as much issue with local wearing off early, I don't think... or maybe I just have a higher tolerance for discomfort? I don't recall needing any top-offs for my root canal, but come to think maybe they had given me two doses to begin with.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Locals are very difficult to work on me. In the last three dental visits it took 5+ shots and nearly half an hour before my face even started to tingle. Towards the end of the work I was already regaining feeling.

    Red hair?

    Bingo

    I haven't encountered as much issue with local wearing off early, I don't think... or maybe I just have a higher tolerance for discomfort? I don't recall needing any top-offs for my root canal, but come to think maybe they had given me two doses to begin with.

    When I had a root canal a year ago the dental surgeon used a special in-house local anesthetic that was just, fuckin', incredible. It was a paste on the end of a cotton swab and I just held it against my gum for a few minutes and then my whole mandible on the right side was just totally insensate.

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    TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    Fun fact: cocaine is used as an anesthetic for certain nasal surgeries

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Tynnan wrote: »
    Fun fact: cocaine is used as an anesthetic for certain nasal surgeries

    really cool surgeries only though

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    A lot of drugs have legitimate medical usage. Like how ADHD medication is basically meth.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Tynnan wrote: »
    Fun fact: cocaine is used as an anesthetic for certain nasal surgeries

    That's what I told the police too

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Tynnan wrote: »
    Fun fact: cocaine is used as an anesthetic for certain nasal surgeries

    I'm allergic to lidocaine and various synthetic opiates, so among the uncommon medical treatments I've had includes a cocaine paste used topically as a local in place of lidocaine, and when I had a couple of 3mm stones I was prescribed an opium and belladonna suppository since i have anaphilactic reactions to both hydrocodone and oxycodone.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    It's a miracle we aren't all non-functional from having constant existential crises at all moments, so I think one before a surgery is probably fine.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Brain detects existential crisis and lets it run until it's out of steam then quietly Thanos snaps the memory into the subconscious

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    Yeah, absolutely. You could certainly have your anesthesia provider walk you step by step beforehand to let you know how things will go. Also, request some kind of anti anxiety medication preoperatively will really smooth the experience out.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    Yeah, absolutely. You could certainly have your anesthesia provider walk you step by step beforehand to let you know how things will go. Also, request some kind of anti anxiety medication preoperatively will really smooth the experience out.

    just ask em to hotbox you first, they'll do it if they're cool

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    ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    The time I had general anesthesia, I think I was a little punchy or arm-flaily when I came out of it? At least, that was the first thing I remembered being told, from an arms length away.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    Yeah, absolutely. You could certainly have your anesthesia provider walk you step by step beforehand to let you know how things will go. Also, request some kind of anti anxiety medication preoperatively will really smooth the experience out.

    I wonder if there's anything they can do about the dread that sets in the moment I learn I need a procedure. Got a possible jaw surgery in a couple years (only if the surgeon can make a case to my insurance that it's needed and they ought to pay for it. Hooray US "healthcare"), and I've been worried about it ever since.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    just remember, anesthesia and its effects on your consciousness is just as understood as you going to sleep each night is : )

    so just worry every night

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    The time I had general anesthesia, I think I was a little punchy or arm-flaily when I came out of it? At least, that was the first thing I remembered being told, from an arms length away.

    Some people, particularly younger patients (more likely with men, especially those with a history of physical trauma or contact sports) emerge a little aggressively from general anesthesia.

    And that's okay! We easily work around that.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    Yeah, absolutely. You could certainly have your anesthesia provider walk you step by step beforehand to let you know how things will go. Also, request some kind of anti anxiety medication preoperatively will really smooth the experience out.

    I wonder if there's anything they can do about the dread that sets in the moment I learn I need a procedure. Got a possible jaw surgery in a couple years (only if the surgeon can make a case to my insurance that it's needed and they ought to pay for it. Hooray US "healthcare"), and I've been worried about it ever since.

    That feels like a more long term treatment outside of anesthesia care. Maybe baseline anti anxiety medication could help?

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    Yeah, absolutely. You could certainly have your anesthesia provider walk you step by step beforehand to let you know how things will go. Also, request some kind of anti anxiety medication preoperatively will really smooth the experience out.

    just ask em to hotbox you first, they'll do it if they're cool

    Don't do this!

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    Yeah, absolutely. You could certainly have your anesthesia provider walk you step by step beforehand to let you know how things will go. Also, request some kind of anti anxiety medication preoperatively will really smooth the experience out.

    just ask em to hotbox you first, they'll do it if they're cool

    Don't do this!

    Yeah, doesn't pot interfere strongly with anesthesia?

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    Yeah, absolutely. You could certainly have your anesthesia provider walk you step by step beforehand to let you know how things will go. Also, request some kind of anti anxiety medication preoperatively will really smooth the experience out.

    just ask em to hotbox you first, they'll do it if they're cool

    Don't do this!

    whatever narc

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    Yeah, absolutely. You could certainly have your anesthesia provider walk you step by step beforehand to let you know how things will go. Also, request some kind of anti anxiety medication preoperatively will really smooth the experience out.

    just ask em to hotbox you first, they'll do it if they're cool

    Don't do this!

    Yeah, doesn't pot interfere strongly with anesthesia?

    Oh, like not at all really. If you're acutely high we just adjust how much medication you receive. But if you're clearly intoxicated you can't sign any of the paperwork to get your surgery and it'll just be a waste of weed.

    Unless it's an emergency.

    Acute cocaine use, chronic alcohol abuse, and methamphetamines are the real problems.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Guess I'll have to cancel my pre-surgery party plans then

    Darmak on
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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    When I came out of general anaesthesia after wisdom teeth removal I was groggy and needed assistance to get to the car for my mother to drive me home. I soon regained my faculties and ultimately my bottle of Vicodin was left mostly untouched.

    When my brother came out of general anaesthesia after wisdom teeth removal he was giddy and started punching himself...in the mouth. Because he was giggling and saying he couldn't feel it. He got to the car on his own, again driven by our mother, and proceeded to barf out the window on the way back and emptied his bottle of Vicodin entirely.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Hey lots of questions about Anesthesia here! I'll answer them when I get home.

    It's very safe you have nothing to worry about.

    Is there a way I can go under without having a complete existential crisis beforehand? Shit do be freaky

    Yeah, absolutely. You could certainly have your anesthesia provider walk you step by step beforehand to let you know how things will go. Also, request some kind of anti anxiety medication preoperatively will really smooth the experience out.

    A little note on this, this is very common at Mayo but less common at random hospitals out in the sticks. I could get anti-anxiety for my claustrophobia before an MRI or whatnot at Mayo but not anywhere else I've been. Likewise with pre-op anti-anxiety meds.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    They put me under to take out my wisdom teeth. Family lore has it that after they lugged me back to the hotel the only thing I said in a two-hour stretch was the correct answer to the million-dollar question on Who Wants To Be a Millionaire, and then I immediately nodded off again.

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