A PA Tube website - wanted/possible?

Klyka

So, I'm currently in the position to open up a "youtube-esque" site (complete with player and everything) and thought about making it a Penny Arcade site for all PAers to post their (quite often hilarious) videos and then share them.

My question is: Would something like that be welcome in the first place?

And would I have to get in touch with Gabe and Tycho?

and the most important question: Will there be a Goatse movie?

Rook

Why not just use youtube?

edit: as for using the Penny-Arcade name, I really don't think they like that. It's protecting their brand etc.

Endomatic

The person you'd probably want to talk to would be Robert Khoo I'm thinking.

SanderJK

At the very least, it should use PA forum guidelines, if you even want to associate it. But i doubt it'll fly. What exactly is the idea here, except having your bandwith raped?

Oh and if SE++ gets a hold on it, it'll just host 1242352436 versions of rickrolls.

ben0207

I don't think enouigh people would use it. Even broad stuff thgat we move external to the forums usually falls into disarray or decay within weeks, and this is quite specific, and doesn't cover anything YouTube doesn't already have.

Klyka

Rook wrote: »

Why not just use youtube?

edit: as for using the Penny-Arcade name, I really don't think they like that. It's protecting their brand etc.

why not youtube:

I would not limit the video length to something like 10 minutes.
The videos would be loaded/streamed much faster
the video resolution would be higher
and the thing most PAers love: it would be a club for elitist pricks (i kid)

and the whole "penny arcade tube" was just a project title. it would probably be called "arcadians tube" or something.

Klyka

SanderJK wrote: »

At the very least, it should use PA forum guidelines, if you even want to associate it. But i doubt it'll fly. What exactly is the idea here, except having your bandwith raped?

Oh and if SE++ gets a hold on it, it'll just host 1242352436 versions of rickrolls.

there's no idea. i'm wealthy and i like the forums. i came up with the idea some 30 minutes ago and just wanted to hear a "YAY" or "MEH" or "NAY".

Endomatic

You could create a PA channel or something on Youtube couldn't you?

I'm not sure of the specifics of youtube. I just go there and watch things.

Rook

Klyka wrote: »

Rook wrote: »

Why not just use youtube?

edit: as for using the Penny-Arcade name, I really don't think they like that. It's protecting their brand etc.

why not youtube:

I would not limit the video length to something like 10 minutes.
The videos would be loaded/streamed much faster
the video resolution would be higher
and the thing most PAers love: it would be a club for elitist pricks (i kid)

and the whole "penny arcade tube" was just a project title. it would probably be called "arcadians tube" or something.

Doesn't google videos do higher quality and longer streams? What about the gametrailers/gamevideos sites? . I'm not trying to knock it per-say. I just think you're looking at a market where a) it's already been done before and b) none of us really use it anyways.

ben0207

What if instead of limiting it to PA you got in touch with the moderators of other games forums (but only the cool ones) and found a way to limit it so the only people who can upload are invited forumers from these forums, ensuring that uploaded videos are high quality. That way the site could become the go-to place for both official trailers and community stuff.

Edit: Rook, it's Per se, not persay.

Klyka

ben0207 wrote: »

What if instead of limiting it to PA you got in touch with the moderators of other games forums (but only the cool ones) and found a way to limit it so the only people who can upload are invited forumers from these forums, ensuring that uploaded videos are high quality. That way the site could become the go-to place for both official trailers and community stuff.

Edit: Rook, it's Per se, not persay.

That's a great idea. Keep em coming.

Edit: keep in mind that I didn't say anything about limiting the videos to game videos. I said "Forumers can upload their movies". So it could be whatever. I could even do an "adult section" with whatever we define as adult material (gore,NSFW,whatever). And the site would just start as a PA forum site. But just look at the 360 Arcadians. There are lots of people who go there who never heard of PA, as far as I know.

Tube

It's lovely thought, but I don't think it's really needed.

GrimReaper

You know what i'd prefer?

A penny arcade games review site.

I am so sick of ign/gamespot sites which think they're being really clever but are in fact awful.

What i'd like to see is something akin to a social game review site, for example.. people could sign up and games to be reviewed would be sent to a person(s) to be reviewed. For example, people could assign their preferred genres and then games in that genre would be sent for review.

Points (diggs'ish) could be assigned to reviews, for example the more people who "digg" a review the more likelier they are to get review copies in the future. People could digg for stuff like the comprehensiveness of the review and general grammar/spelling.


Sure there would be issues like people keeping the games and possible payment for popular reviews but those kind of things could be ironed out.

LewieP

GrimReaper wrote: »

Sure there would be issues like people keeping the games and possible payment for popular reviews but those kind of things could be ironed out.

I honestly don't think this would work.

A concept of wiki-reviews is kinda flawed. It works for wikipedia, because it tends to deal with facts, or opinions of others (which will be properly referenced in theory) but when the entire article is opinion of the writer, you get gamefaqs reviews syndrome (for every game, tonnes of 9/10 out of tens and tonnes of 1/2 out of tens) because the only reason someone would decide to write a review of a game is either because it's their job and they are getting paid, or they feel strongly (either way) about it.

GrimReaper

LewieP wrote: »

GrimReaper wrote: »

Sure there would be issues like people keeping the games and possible payment for popular reviews but those kind of things could be ironed out.

I honestly don't think this would work.

A concept of wiki-reviews is kinda flawed. It works for wikipedia, because it tends to deal with facts, or opinions of others (which will be properly referenced in theory) but when the entire article is opinion of the writer, you get gamefaqs reviews syndrome (for every game, tonnes of 9/10 out of tens and tonnes of 1/2 out of tens) because the only reason someone would decide to write a review of a game is either because it's their job and they are getting paid, or they feel strongly (either way) about it.

No, not like a wiki. More like digg, somebody writes a review and people rate/digg the review itself. The more popular a review then the likelier they are to be a headlined reviewer in the future. The review itself of the game would be scored by the reviewer.

The fanboy reviews like you mentioned would be weeded out, like how often on digg the crap stories don't make it to the front page.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but frankly I think it would be better than the turdsville that is stuff like ign.

ben0207

We also have the small problem that very few of us are professional writers.

I mean, I love writing, but I know I'm not very good at it.

GrimReaper

ben0207 wrote: »

We also have the small problem that very few of us are professional writers.

I mean, I love writing, but I know I'm not very good at it.

Hence the better reviews go to the top, lets face it how many fanboys are literate? (Hmm, that sounds a bit insinuating like i'm saying you're a fanboy.. i'm not, sorry if it does)

Anyway, practice makes perfect.

ben0207

My point is that we'd be unlikely to ever see anythog worth reading, whether it was highly "dugg"or not. Everyone that can write reviews around here already does for eToy.

Rook

I think it's more of a problem of lack of commitment, there was a thread about it a while back and when it came down to the crunch, lots of people thought it was a great idea, but just didn't actually want to do anything.

and cheers for the spelling tips

Caswynben

Everytime someone brings up making a content site, I remember teamhomp and I get so terribly giddy. If only you knew just how little everyone actually wants it and how little effort everyone is really willing to put into it.

Caswynben

ben0207 wrote: »

My point is that we'd be unlikely to ever see anythog worth reading, whether it was highly "dugg"or not. Everyone that can write reviews around here already does for eToy.

You mean Snowcone right? eToychest doesn't have his own website anymore.

ben0207

Caswynben wrote: »

ben0207 wrote: »

My point is that we'd be unlikely to ever see anythog worth reading, whether it was highly "dugg"or not. Everyone that can write reviews around here already does for eToy.

You mean Snowcone right? eToychest doesn't have his own website anymore.

Yeah, same difference.

And you're right. We all say we want a reviews site, or a Youtube style video site, or some sort of cake that tastes like beer and doesn't make you fat, but none of us are actually willing to write them / read them / post them / sign the dark unholy pacts for them.

Look at every single offshoot we've ever had here, and despair:
Team Homp
Steam Steam Lol
That wiki thing
and about a million others that I can't even remember.

I don't see why we'd bother making the effort again only for the people whho make the effort to just be left disappointed and dejected.

Agentflit

Cardboard Tube wrote: »

It's lovely thought, but I don't think it's really needed.

When I saw the title, I though it was referencing you somehow.

The_Lightbringer

I can't help but imagine that half of the videos would be hardcore gay pornography and rickrolling

Rook

I think platformers and 360arcadians did ok. You just have to have some people actually dedicated to doing things.

Peewi

The_Lightbringer wrote: »

I can't help but imagine that half of the videos would be hardcore gay pornography and rickrolling

You mean one half for each?

The_Lightbringer

yeah sure