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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
I don't see why furry and incel would be mutually exclusive things.
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Kane Red RobeMaster of MagicArcanusRegistered Userregular
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
I don't see why furry and incel would be mutually exclusive things.
Other than the furry community being largely successful about self-policing right wing dip shits out of their orbit I suppose
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
Incels imagine their problems to be the result of looks when it is actually some combination of their taste preferences, their attitudes, and their actions. So anyone from any group could have that toxic mindset and "become" an incel.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
I don't see why furry and incel would be mutually exclusive things.
I can think of a few of reasons why
1) if you're into the kind of kink that involves full body suits and gigantic masks that completely alter the shape of your body and face, you're probably less hyper focused on "a few millimeters of bone." Not only are your preferences well beyond such minuteae, you probably have some level of awareness at how silly your fetish appears from the outside, and just finding a member of your preferred gender who is willing to wear a fursuit for sexual encounters is a godsend. Even if you can't find such a partner, you know for a certainty that "my jaw isn't chiseled enough" is not the reason for that.
2) if your furriness is not about fursuits, but rather a sexual preference for Judy Hops from Zootopia, then your fantasies about her are probably not that she would reject you because you aren't tall enough. Well, unless you had a humiliation fetish too, but I also doubt that humiliation fetishists are incels unless they're in violent denial about their kink?
3) because incel communities are about "min maxing" attractiveness and also incredibly hateful to anything too outside the norm, they would immediately turn vile towards anyone who either admitted to wearing a fursuit or admitted to finding an animated animal character attractive. It feels like an incel community would naturally drive out someone with any kind of kink that wasn't of the "torture women as revenge" variety.
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
Incels imagine their problems to be the result of looks when it is actually some combination of their taste preferences, their attitudes, and their actions. So anyone from any group could have that toxic mindset and "become" an incel.
I thought incels thought the problem was everyone and everything but them.
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
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Yeah, no. Furry incels are absolutely a thing and it is the dumbest shit.
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
I don't see why furry and incel would be mutually exclusive things.
Other than the furry community being largely successful about self-policing right wing dip shits out of their orbit I suppose
EDIT: I mean yes sorta but they are still absolutely a thing. You don't have to look TOO hard to find people's characters in full Nazi uniforms, swastika and all.
I don't have any data either way but considering that 100% of incel culture is delusion I don't think you can't assume furry incels wouldn't exist because the logic doesn't make sense.
The person who shot up a protest a few days ago turned out to be a nazi fur.
They're not welcome in the mainstream furry community but they are lurking out in the margins nonetheless.
The person who shot up a protest a few days ago turned out to be a nazi fur.
They're not welcome in the mainstream furry community but they are lurking out in the margins nonetheless.
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
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Yeah, no. Furry incels are absolutely a thing and it is the dumbest shit.
Morbid curiosity, can you explain the mindset? Is it that furry girls have "too high standards" or something? The more frequent toxic complaint I'm used to seeing in nerd spaces is that if a girl likes a certain fandom, she is only pretending to like it for attention - ex: "fake gamer girls." - which logically seems like a toxicity that is incompatible with inceldom, but I know toxic nerds are not exactly internally consistent. So is the complaint "there's no such thing as a furry girl, they are only pretending in order to get my attention and also why won't furry girls pay any attention to nice guys like me"?
I just wanted to make a joke about how Loup is a wolf inside a human body. What have I done
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I just wanted to make a joke about how Loup is a wolf inside a human body. What have I done
It's like a greek tragedy
The tragedy of Furrydice
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Some incels are quite good looking and successful people is the weirdest thing
It's never actually about their looks or status, it's how they think they deserve a form of reward from the world for whatever reason. Maybe they think they're a nice guy, maybe they think they've been slighted, maybe they think they're superior to others. When they do not receive that reward or are denied it (such as in your example if the good looking person is rejected), they are angry for not being given what "they deserve." For incels the problem can never originate from themselves, it has to be something else from without that is to blame. Otherwise they might have to acknowledge they are the ones who need to change.
"Furry" is just an additional characterstic, like "anime fan", and doesn't limit any variety of other characteristics. The larger communities have some leanings, but there are exceptions to all of them.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Some incels are quite good looking and successful people is the weirdest thing
It's never actually about their looks or status, it's how they think they deserve a form of reward from the world for whatever reason. Maybe they think they're a nice guy, maybe they think they've been slighted, maybe they think they're superior to others. When they do not receive that reward or are denied it (such as in your example if the good looking person is rejected), they are angry for not being given what "they deserve." For incels the problem can never originate from themselves, it has to be something else from without that is to blame. Otherwise they might have to acknowledge they are the ones who need to change.
It's important to note that incel is a specific substrata of the male psyche. You can have a lot of romantic partners and be incel, you can have none and be not.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Some incels are quite good looking and successful people is the weirdest thing
It's never actually about their looks or status, it's how they think they deserve a form of reward from the world for whatever reason. Maybe they think they're a nice guy, maybe they think they've been slighted, maybe they think they're superior to others. When they do not receive that reward or are denied it (such as in your example if the good looking person is rejected), they are angry for not being given what "they deserve." For incels the problem can never originate from themselves, it has to be something else from without that is to blame. Otherwise they might have to acknowledge they are the ones who need to change.
This was maybe once true but isn't so much anymore. Or at least its not the whole truth. Many subgroups of Incel are extremely self and group-abusive. They have built an insane worldview based on the idea that women only truly want to have sex with "chads" who they define by all these distressingly impossible metrics. These men don't view themselves as chads of course. They spend their time deconstructing for each other why none of them will ever seen as attractive. These perfectly normal looking men tear themselves down until they truly believe they are subhuman monsters nobody could stand to look at.
A lot of it is cult behavior and an obsessions with categorization. A lot of it is redirected sexism. Both lead to worse with incel communities getting heavy in racism, dehumanization and worldbuilding. Its a terrible mess.
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JedocIn the scupperswith the staggers and jagsRegistered Userregular
Incels are toxic narcissists who don't meet their own standards, it's like some kind of horrible codependency divide-by-zero error.
"Furry" is just an additional characterstic, like "anime fan", and doesn't limit any variety of other characteristics. The larger communities have some leanings, but there are exceptions to all of them.
While this is true, certain descriptors lend themselves to a certain other descriptors.
For example, learning that someone who is staunchly vegan loves to hunt and kill animals on the weekends would be a surprise, and the general conclusion one would draw about vegans is that at least on some level they care about animals and don't like seeing them hurt. While there certainly may be vegans who hate animals and like killing them, I would expect those folks to be an edge case.
Or for another example, if you met someone who considered rap to be the height of American artistic achievement and placed Kendrick Lamar as equal to Beethoven in musical accomplishment and impact and then later learned that they were a white supremacist, that would also come as a surprise, to put it mildly.
With Furries, I guess it feels like there's a fork in the road for social outcasts, and on one side of the fork is Furries, Gothic Lolitas, Ham radio operators, etc. and on the other side of the fork is Incels.
"Furry" is just an additional characterstic, like "anime fan", and doesn't limit any variety of other characteristics. The larger communities have some leanings, but there are exceptions to all of them.
While this is true, certain descriptors lend themselves to a certain other descriptors.
For example, learning that someone who is staunchly vegan loves to hunt and kill animals on the weekends would be a surprise, and the general conclusion one would draw about vegans is that at least on some level they care about animals and don't like seeing them hurt. While there certainly may be vegans who hate animals and like killing them, I would expect those folks to be an edge case.
Or for another example, if you met someone who considered rap to be the height of American artistic achievement and placed Kendrick Lamar as equal to Beethoven in musical accomplishment and impact and then later learned that they were a white supremacist, that would also come as a surprise, to put it mildly.
With Furries, I guess it feels like there's a fork in the road for social outcasts, and on one side of the fork is Furries, Gothic Lolitas, Ham radio operators, etc. and on the other side of the fork is Incels.
Nothing about being a furry suggests moral character (or lack thereof). It is just a hobby/interest like any other.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
"Furry" is just an additional characterstic, like "anime fan", and doesn't limit any variety of other characteristics. The larger communities have some leanings, but there are exceptions to all of them.
While this is true, certain descriptors lend themselves to a certain other descriptors.
For example, learning that someone who is staunchly vegan loves to hunt and kill animals on the weekends would be a surprise, and the general conclusion one would draw about vegans is that at least on some level they care about animals and don't like seeing them hurt. While there certainly may be vegans who hate animals and like killing them, I would expect those folks to be an edge case.
Or for another example, if you met someone who considered rap to be the height of American artistic achievement and placed Kendrick Lamar as equal to Beethoven in musical accomplishment and impact and then later learned that they were a white supremacist, that would also come as a surprise, to put it mildly.
With Furries, I guess it feels like there's a fork in the road for social outcasts, and on one side of the fork is Furries, Gothic Lolitas, Ham radio operators, etc. and on the other side of the fork is Incels.
Nothing about being a furry suggests moral character (or lack thereof). It is just a hobby/interest like any other.
It's weird you bring up moral character when I think I pretty clearly made a case for morals not being part of it.
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Oh, Loup is an incel. That makes sense.
Loup is a wolf inside of an anthropomorphic body so he's also a furry incel
I know furries get a lot of shit, but I'm not sure that "furry incel" is a combination that actually happens in the real world? Because don't you just have to put on your fursuit and the "looks" department is taken care of, no surgery needed? Or if you're not the type of furry who goes for full fursuits, you're still not going to be going online to complain that Twilight Sparkle or Lola Bunny "only date jerks"? Or am I overestimating human sensibility again?
I don't see why furry and incel would be mutually exclusive things.
Other than the furry community being largely successful about self-policing right wing dip shits out of their orbit I suppose
Incels imagine their problems to be the result of looks when it is actually some combination of their taste preferences, their attitudes, and their actions. So anyone from any group could have that toxic mindset and "become" an incel.
I can think of a few of reasons why
1) if you're into the kind of kink that involves full body suits and gigantic masks that completely alter the shape of your body and face, you're probably less hyper focused on "a few millimeters of bone." Not only are your preferences well beyond such minuteae, you probably have some level of awareness at how silly your fetish appears from the outside, and just finding a member of your preferred gender who is willing to wear a fursuit for sexual encounters is a godsend. Even if you can't find such a partner, you know for a certainty that "my jaw isn't chiseled enough" is not the reason for that.
2) if your furriness is not about fursuits, but rather a sexual preference for Judy Hops from Zootopia, then your fantasies about her are probably not that she would reject you because you aren't tall enough. Well, unless you had a humiliation fetish too, but I also doubt that humiliation fetishists are incels unless they're in violent denial about their kink?
3) because incel communities are about "min maxing" attractiveness and also incredibly hateful to anything too outside the norm, they would immediately turn vile towards anyone who either admitted to wearing a fursuit or admitted to finding an animated animal character attractive. It feels like an incel community would naturally drive out someone with any kind of kink that wasn't of the "torture women as revenge" variety.
I thought incels thought the problem was everyone and everything but them.
Thus the reason I added points 2) and 3)
(Brennan is a DM playing a character there by the way)
Ah sorry missed the "not" keyword
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Yeah, no. Furry incels are absolutely a thing and it is the dumbest shit.
EDIT: I mean yes sorta but they are still absolutely a thing. You don't have to look TOO hard to find people's characters in full Nazi uniforms, swastika and all.
They're not welcome in the mainstream furry community but they are lurking out in the margins nonetheless.
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Morbid curiosity, can you explain the mindset? Is it that furry girls have "too high standards" or something? The more frequent toxic complaint I'm used to seeing in nerd spaces is that if a girl likes a certain fandom, she is only pretending to like it for attention - ex: "fake gamer girls." - which logically seems like a toxicity that is incompatible with inceldom, but I know toxic nerds are not exactly internally consistent. So is the complaint "there's no such thing as a furry girl, they are only pretending in order to get my attention and also why won't furry girls pay any attention to nice guys like me"?
It's like a greek tragedy
The tragedy of Furrydice
It means therefore.
Wouldn't that make him a ... humie or something? What's the term for a reverse furry?
xkcd
No no no
A Humie would be a human inside of an animal body
Where's that one Whomp comic of the boy cat making the girl cat wear fake human ears?
It's never actually about their looks or status, it's how they think they deserve a form of reward from the world for whatever reason. Maybe they think they're a nice guy, maybe they think they've been slighted, maybe they think they're superior to others. When they do not receive that reward or are denied it (such as in your example if the good looking person is rejected), they are angry for not being given what "they deserve." For incels the problem can never originate from themselves, it has to be something else from without that is to blame. Otherwise they might have to acknowledge they are the ones who need to change.
It's important to note that incel is a specific substrata of the male psyche. You can have a lot of romantic partners and be incel, you can have none and be not.
This was maybe once true but isn't so much anymore. Or at least its not the whole truth. Many subgroups of Incel are extremely self and group-abusive. They have built an insane worldview based on the idea that women only truly want to have sex with "chads" who they define by all these distressingly impossible metrics. These men don't view themselves as chads of course. They spend their time deconstructing for each other why none of them will ever seen as attractive. These perfectly normal looking men tear themselves down until they truly believe they are subhuman monsters nobody could stand to look at.
A lot of it is cult behavior and an obsessions with categorization. A lot of it is redirected sexism. Both lead to worse with incel communities getting heavy in racism, dehumanization and worldbuilding. Its a terrible mess.
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While this is true, certain descriptors lend themselves to a certain other descriptors.
For example, learning that someone who is staunchly vegan loves to hunt and kill animals on the weekends would be a surprise, and the general conclusion one would draw about vegans is that at least on some level they care about animals and don't like seeing them hurt. While there certainly may be vegans who hate animals and like killing them, I would expect those folks to be an edge case.
Or for another example, if you met someone who considered rap to be the height of American artistic achievement and placed Kendrick Lamar as equal to Beethoven in musical accomplishment and impact and then later learned that they were a white supremacist, that would also come as a surprise, to put it mildly.
With Furries, I guess it feels like there's a fork in the road for social outcasts, and on one side of the fork is Furries, Gothic Lolitas, Ham radio operators, etc. and on the other side of the fork is Incels.
Nothing about being a furry suggests moral character (or lack thereof). It is just a hobby/interest like any other.
It's weird you bring up moral character when I think I pretty clearly made a case for morals not being part of it.