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  • GilgaronGilgaron Registered User regular
    That paint would come off quicker with a card scraper but yeah otherwise a razor or putty knife is probably your best bet, with some touch up to the wood likely needed afterward.

    OneAngryPossum, yeah you don't really want to have the table saw pointed where a kickback will punch a hole in anything important. Did you make a jointing jig? They work ok, then use cauls when you clamp your glue up and you shouldn't hopefully have to sand too much. You can save lots of sanding with a jack plane:
    https://blog.lostartpress.com/2019/10/19/the-jack-plane-you-really-need-part-1/

  • OneAngryPossumOneAngryPossum Registered User regular
    Gilgaron wrote: »
    That paint would come off quicker with a card scraper but yeah otherwise a razor or putty knife is probably your best bet, with some touch up to the wood likely needed afterward.

    OneAngryPossum, yeah you don't really want to have the table saw pointed where a kickback will punch a hole in anything important. Did you make a jointing jig? They work ok, then use cauls when you clamp your glue up and you shouldn't hopefully have to sand too much. You can save lots of sanding with a jack plane:
    https://blog.lostartpress.com/2019/10/19/the-jack-plane-you-really-need-part-1/

    That’s a great article, thanks - I’m still just barely getting familiar with hand tools, and haven’t touched a hand planer yet. All I’ve really done has been using chisels and rasps for cleaning up - I haven’t properly even sharpened the chisels yet, though I’ve seen their value in cleaning out some shoddy rabbets.

    I’m planning on picking up a bench top planer this weekend (a slightly used dewalt), and was set on building a sled for using that as a jointer, but I realize now that I’ll probably need a sled for faces and some kind of jig for the edges. Would you suggest a table saw jointing jig over working something up for the planer, or is it just going to be a matter of personal preference?

  • GilgaronGilgaron Registered User regular
    Gilgaron wrote: »
    That paint would come off quicker with a card scraper but yeah otherwise a razor or putty knife is probably your best bet, with some touch up to the wood likely needed afterward.

    OneAngryPossum, yeah you don't really want to have the table saw pointed where a kickback will punch a hole in anything important. Did you make a jointing jig? They work ok, then use cauls when you clamp your glue up and you shouldn't hopefully have to sand too much. You can save lots of sanding with a jack plane:
    https://blog.lostartpress.com/2019/10/19/the-jack-plane-you-really-need-part-1/

    That’s a great article, thanks - I’m still just barely getting familiar with hand tools, and haven’t touched a hand planer yet. All I’ve really done has been using chisels and rasps for cleaning up - I haven’t properly even sharpened the chisels yet, though I’ve seen their value in cleaning out some shoddy rabbets.

    I’m planning on picking up a bench top planer this weekend (a slightly used dewalt), and was set on building a sled for using that as a jointer, but I realize now that I’ll probably need a sled for faces and some kind of jig for the edges. Would you suggest a table saw jointing jig over working something up for the planer, or is it just going to be a matter of personal preference?

    Yeah it is all personal preference, I only recently got a power planer and have up until now either jointed with a table saw or with a Stanley #8. A jointing jig on the table saw is convenient since once it is straight you use the same tool to make the other edge parallel. (If you're doing it by hand you joint one edge with the plane, and then take a panel gauge to mark a parallel line on the far side and then plane to the line.)

    https://lostartpress.com/collections/all-books-1/products/the-anarchists-tool-chest
    This is Chris Schwarz's book about putting together a minimalist tool set you could consider reading, but it is going to come down to what sort of materials (solid vs ply) you want to use and how you like to work (quickly e.g. lots of power tools or quietly/minimal fine dust e.g. hand tools). You'll of course end up using both power and tool but which way you prefer to work will influence which tools should be higher priority.

    I'm making a commission for a friend on no timeline, so the only power tool I've used is my bandsaw to resaw the boards into 3/8, and the joinery is rabbets and grooves cut with chisels and joinery planes.

    When my wife wants something done in a weekend then it is plywood and kreg screws, with some pine trim made on the router table and attached with a nail gun. But the next thing she wants is going to be a nice sofa table out of oak so I'll do rough processing with the machines and then do the joinery by hand mostly just because that's the way I like to work. You can do traditional joints with a power router, too, but I don't find working with them relaxing.

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    I still haven’t got a planer, so I’ve been running some 2x4s through the table saw to do a half-assed jointing operation for a bar-height table. Not my favorite thing since with my current setup it involves more awkward leaning than I’d like (though not over the table saw).

    Results are surprisingly decent (after a great deal of sanding), but one of the little off-cuts got spit back by the table saw and left a small but visible dent in the water heater.

    So I think it’s officially past time I rethink this workshop layout.

    I've rebuilt my woodshop three times and finally just got to the point of it's good enough

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    Oh shit, I did it, I actually made an offer - right place, got to actually look it over before the bidageddon began (three days up, best bid by noon tomorrow wins)... We'll see where it goes. I didn't do anything stupid with my offer, so we'll see if someone with more money than fiduciary sense weighs in and beats me.

  • aiouaaioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    hooray, replacement lamp shade came in, new semi-matching light fixture came in

    entry way is now free of grandma style lighting and I am quite pleased

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    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    I still miss the half boob.

  • aiouaaioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I still miss the half boob.

    you wanna pay for shipping I'll send you two

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Today in The Market Must Be Crazy - realtor shows house that isn't for sale:
    When a house is listed for sale, real estate agents often bring prospective buyers in it to show them the home. The listing agent typically gives instructions on how the showing agents can get in - sometimes there is a lockbox hanging on the doorknob, sometimes there is a hidden key, and sometimes a side door might even be left open. It's all perfectly normal. What isn't normal is when an agent enters a home that is not for sale to show it to clients, but that's exactly what happened recently, and it was all caught on the homeowner's doorbell camera and then shared on TikTok.

    The footage shows the agent walk up to the door, ring the doorbell and await the arrival of his clients. The homeowners were at work but were alerted to the visitor by the Ring app on their phone. The woman who posted the video said in her voiceover, "I'm thinking they're maybe some religious group or salesman. I'm not sure at this point."

    Then the clients arrive and walk around the house with the agent. At this point, the homeowner sets off her house alarm, which brings almost everyone back to the front of the house. The agent is missing, but shows up again when he opens the front door. He had gone into the home through the back door and unlocked the front door to let everyone inside.

    This is wild, and the realtor here needs to not have a job anymore.

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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    Today in The Market Must Be Crazy - realtor shows house that isn't for sale:
    When a house is listed for sale, real estate agents often bring prospective buyers in it to show them the home. The listing agent typically gives instructions on how the showing agents can get in - sometimes there is a lockbox hanging on the doorknob, sometimes there is a hidden key, and sometimes a side door might even be left open. It's all perfectly normal. What isn't normal is when an agent enters a home that is not for sale to show it to clients, but that's exactly what happened recently, and it was all caught on the homeowner's doorbell camera and then shared on TikTok.

    The footage shows the agent walk up to the door, ring the doorbell and await the arrival of his clients. The homeowners were at work but were alerted to the visitor by the Ring app on their phone. The woman who posted the video said in her voiceover, "I'm thinking they're maybe some religious group or salesman. I'm not sure at this point."

    Then the clients arrive and walk around the house with the agent. At this point, the homeowner sets off her house alarm, which brings almost everyone back to the front of the house. The agent is missing, but shows up again when he opens the front door. He had gone into the home through the back door and unlocked the front door to let everyone inside.

    This is wild, and the realtor here needs to not have a job anymore.

    Yeah. This is obviously a "the realtor had the address wrong" situation but just finding an unlocked door without any confirmation that's how you're meant to get in is pretty ethically lacking. Back when house hunting our realtor took us to a place after talking to the listing agent but wasn't given the any "how to get in" instructions. We found one of the little key lock box deals but he couldn't get ahold of the listing agent again to get the code for it. We walked around the house but he was pretty clear we couldn't just go in even if a door was unlocked - despite us having an appointment - since he couldn't get entry details. We wound up leaving, seeing another house, then going back after he got ahold of the other agent.


    Unrealted query: anyone know of a calculator site I can use to figure out how much a change in my mortgage interest rate will impact my monthly payments? All the calculators I can find online are basically, "Give us all the details and then we will sell your information to everyone we can possibly find while also not actually giving you a number". I have a pretty shitty interest rate thanks to my ex-wife foreclosing on a house but I'm now past the 7 year mark out from said foreclosure and want to refinance but would like to know what I need to get in terms of new interest rate and closing costs to make it worth my while.

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    I don't know if this works on mobile, but Google searching for "mortgage payment calculator" pops up a Google tool that lets you put in loan amount, loan term, and interest rate to get the estimated monthly payment

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Opty wrote: »
    I don't know if this works on mobile, but Google searching for "mortgage payment calculator" pops up a Google tool that lets you put in loan amount, loan term, and interest rate to get the estimated monthly payment

    It's the fourth result if you Google "mortgage payment calculator"

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    Oh shit, I did it, I actually made an offer - right place, got to actually look it over before the bidageddon began (three days up, best bid by noon tomorrow wins)... We'll see where it goes. I didn't do anything stupid with my offer, so we'll see if someone with more money than fiduciary sense weighs in and beats me.

    Jeebus, well, doing all the relevant maths, what I could afford, and the current market for the area, I went 10% over the offer price. And came in second. This market is just pants on head.

  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    Oh shit, I did it, I actually made an offer - right place, got to actually look it over before the bidageddon began (three days up, best bid by noon tomorrow wins)... We'll see where it goes. I didn't do anything stupid with my offer, so we'll see if someone with more money than fiduciary sense weighs in and beats me.

    Jeebus, well, doing all the relevant maths, what I could afford, and the current market for the area, I went 10% over the offer price. And came in second. This market is just pants on head.

    Hey, second isn't bad! We went 10% over and didn't make the top 5 at one point last year.

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  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    Flooring question. I'm 99% sure our LVP flooring is floated. We're debating about how to install the Ikea Pax system. My wife wants to remove the floor trim and put the system right up against the wall. The advantage would that the backing would be right up against the wall, saving space and providing stability for the backboard. Any one see any issues with this? I'm assuming if we lay something heavy on the edges of the floor to keep it from bowing/moving, once the Pax units are in place, they'd act the same as the trim right?

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  • WrizzikWrizzik DelawareRegistered User regular
    I thought Ikea shelves had those sections cut out at the back of the bottom of the shelf, to go over the baseboard? If not, you can make them in about 5 mins with a jigsaw.

  • WrizzikWrizzik DelawareRegistered User regular
    Partial-DIY kitchen reno, crazy weekend #2:

    * I spent entirely too much at HD this weekend because I needed <all the things> to try to fix some minor items before the cabinets go in.
    * Apparently I'm the only one in the family that doesn't really like paddle switches.
    * Don't get ahead of yourself because of a leaking plumbing fitting that you installed, and forget to depressurize the water before you break into the line. Hey, at least I got a partial shower and I didn't sweat.
    * I find it a good thing that I've essentially seen every hidden area of the house now, and I know what it holds
    * This includes finally realizing why some things looked weird in the kitchen: when the previous owners renovated around 1998, they bumped one wall of the kitchen into the garage by about 24". This added another row of cabinets next to the fridge and likely allowed them to put in the pocket door to the sunroom that was previously installed. It also means they had a galley kitchen when the house was first built.
    * I am SO SO SO SO glad I moved away from the 20 year old Milwaukee set I had and went with Dewalt. I've used nearly all the tools I bought for the new set the past two weeks (except the palm sander). This includes needing to cut a hole in the floor for a re-run of HVAC and not having a blade for my jigsaw. So I broke out the reciprocating saw! The MVPs so far have been the work lights. I got a second, better, light at Christmas and it's been an all star.

    Cabinets are in the garage. They go in on Tuesday; new floor goes down next week. The HVAC re-run is to move a vent from right against the wall to the toe kick on one of the new cabinets.

  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Were you at my Home Depot?

    There was some dude carrying a bunch of Dewalt, looking super happy.

    Also heard a lady LOL IRL over the musical jingle one of the fridges made. Apparently all happy over at The Depot

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  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    I thought Ikea shelves had those sections cut out at the back of the bottom of the shelf, to go over the baseboard? If not, you can make them in about 5 mins with a jigsaw.

    Pax doesn't have cutouts, but there's enough room under the actual floor of the pax to make cut outs yourself. It's what we did in that situation in our last flat. Used a Dremel.

  • WrizzikWrizzik DelawareRegistered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    Were you at my Home Depot?

    There was some dude carrying a bunch of Dewalt, looking super happy.

    Also heard a lady LOL IRL over the musical jingle one of the fridges made. Apparently all happy over at The Depot

    Glad someone else is happy with new tools! I bought the initial combo pack about 18 mos ago

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
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  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Trajan45 wrote: »
    Flooring question. I'm 99% sure our LVP flooring is floated. We're debating about how to install the Ikea Pax system. My wife wants to remove the floor trim and put the system right up against the wall. The advantage would that the backing would be right up against the wall, saving space and providing stability for the backboard. Any one see any issues with this? I'm assuming if we lay something heavy on the edges of the floor to keep it from bowing/moving, once the Pax units are in place, they'd act the same as the trim right?
    Depending on how the floor was installed, it probably has spacers or shims under the trim piece. Generally floating floors have a bit of a gap between the wall that is concealed by the trim. I don't see an issue with it, if you are looking to get the Pax system flush against the wall.

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  • evilmrhenryevilmrhenry Registered User regular

    That house is genuinely awesome, though. Like, sure, shag carpet, the raised areas around the edges of various rooms keeps you from using that area for storage or the like, and a few rooms cross the line into being "themed", but there's some interesting design choices here that I appreciate.

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  • OricalmOricalm MDRegistered User regular
    Trajan45 wrote: »
    Flooring question. I'm 99% sure our LVP flooring is floated. We're debating about how to install the Ikea Pax system. My wife wants to remove the floor trim and put the system right up against the wall. The advantage would that the backing would be right up against the wall, saving space and providing stability for the backboard. Any one see any issues with this? I'm assuming if we lay something heavy on the edges of the floor to keep it from bowing/moving, once the Pax units are in place, they'd act the same as the trim right?

    For all non-carpet options, the trim doesn't hold the floor down (floating or not). It hides the expansion space between the base of the wall and the flooring. Depending on if you mean full baseboard, baseboard and quarter-round, or just quarter-round, you may find the wall behind the trim is junky and/or unpainted. And you'll likely need to scrape caulk off the wall.

    Alternatively, you could shim bracing against the wall and then put trim around the outside of the shelving unit to hide the spacing.

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular

    I love it, this is amazing.

    :so_raven:
  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    I would absolutely go to parties hosted at that shag pad house but I would never want to live in it.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular

    Oh shit, this is not far away from me. Maybe I'll see if they have an open house..

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2022

    Oh shit, this is not far away from me. Maybe I'll see if they have an open house..

    Do not stay for dinner or eat any baked goods offered to you.

    I find the dining room furniture in the basement? disturbing.

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  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »

    Oh shit, this is not far away from me. Maybe I'll see if they have an open house..

    Do not stay for dinner or eat any baked goods offered to you.

    I find the dining room furniture in the basement? disturbing.

    Looks like patio furniture. Probably just in the basement for the winter instead of out on the deck.
    Also, the room you'd normally put a dining room table in appears to be the home of the Very Large Indoor Fountain Sitting Atop Carpeting, so, y'know, gotta eat somewhere.

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  • evilmrhenryevilmrhenry Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »

    Oh shit, this is not far away from me. Maybe I'll see if they have an open house..

    Do not stay for dinner or eat any baked goods offered to you.

    I find the dining room furniture in the basement? disturbing.

    Looks like patio furniture. Probably just in the basement for the winter instead of out on the deck.
    Also, the room you'd normally put a dining room table in appears to be the home of the Very Large Indoor Fountain Sitting Atop Carpeting, so, y'know, gotta eat somewhere.

    Yes, you need to eat somewhere. Like the round table next to the Very Large Indoor Fountain Sitting Atop Carpeting, or the rectangle table in the living room, or the two seats in the kitchen, or the table in the basement.

  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »

    Oh shit, this is not far away from me. Maybe I'll see if they have an open house..

    Do not stay for dinner or eat any baked goods offered to you.

    I find the dining room furniture in the basement? disturbing.

    Looks like patio furniture. Probably just in the basement for the winter instead of out on the deck.
    Also, the room you'd normally put a dining room table in appears to be the home of the Very Large Indoor Fountain Sitting Atop Carpeting, so, y'know, gotta eat somewhere.

    Yes, you need to eat somewhere. Like the round table next to the Very Large Indoor Fountain Sitting Atop Carpeting, or the rectangle table in the living room, or the two seats in the kitchen, or the table in the basement.

    I was so distracted by the fountain I missed the circular table next to it. And so distracted by the warp core I missed the table in there.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »

    Oh shit, this is not far away from me. Maybe I'll see if they have an open house..

    Do not stay for dinner or eat any baked goods offered to you.

    I find the dining room furniture in the basement? disturbing.

    Looks like patio furniture. Probably just in the basement for the winter instead of out on the deck.
    Also, the room you'd normally put a dining room table in appears to be the home of the Very Large Indoor Fountain Sitting Atop Carpeting, so, y'know, gotta eat somewhere.

    Maybe, but there's a low hanging light directly above it. Also the giant sofas.

    But yes could just be stored down there. I guess if you got the room and deny the progress of time, you might as well have all that down there.

  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular

    That house is genuinely awesome, though. Like, sure, shag carpet, the raised areas around the edges of various rooms keeps you from using that area for storage or the like, and a few rooms cross the line into being "themed", but there's some interesting design choices here that I appreciate.

    That house fucks.

  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    MichaelLC wrote: »

    Oh shit, this is not far away from me. Maybe I'll see if they have an open house..

    Do not stay for dinner or eat any baked goods offered to you.

    I find the dining room furniture in the basement? disturbing.

    Looks like patio furniture. Probably just in the basement for the winter instead of out on the deck.
    Also, the room you'd normally put a dining room table in appears to be the home of the Very Large Indoor Fountain Sitting Atop Carpeting, so, y'know, gotta eat somewhere.

    Maybe, but there's a low hanging light directly above it. Also the giant sofas.

    But yes could just be stored down there. I guess if you got the room and deny the progress of time, you might as well have all that down there.

    The giant half-finished basement is just generally weird. The rest of the house has a lot of flair and intentional finish, even if said finish is incredibly dated. But then you've got this massive walk-out basement that I guess the original builders did nothing with and a subsequent owner decided to carpet but not do anything about the ceiling (at least they didn't put in a drop ceiling?). Then they've got a pool table, which, sure, that's just what you do, I guess, plus a weird mix of indoor and patio furniture and a pretty shitty little bar. There's already a bunch of other seating and eating areas in the house. You'd think you'd want to do something different if you're going to the effort of setting up the basement as a living space.

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  • OneAngryPossumOneAngryPossum Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Picked up a used planer over the weekend - not the best maintenance, but barely used. Only took an hour or two to clean up the blades and bed, then once I got everything setup I gave it a trial run. Not as bad as I feared, though I probably want to apply some mineral oil at some point since the cleaning stripped that off.

    I still need to build a sled since I don’t have a jointer, but based on running my flattest scrap through it - my god this is going to make things so much easier moving forward. Old scrap lumber left behind by previous owners that has been in the basement for years and years looks better than some of the S4S I’ve brought home (albeit a little wobbly, but the sled should help me address that).

    I’m not used to having this level of control over thickness, so I’ll have to start thinking about that more. I guess the easiest approach is going to be like with a miter saw - setup a stop and make sure everything is consistent.

    Not even sure what to build now - I threw together a narrow bar table over the past week using the material I had on hand, and the twist in the legs is terrible, so I might try re-making it with properly jointed and planed wood just to see how much of that was lack of materials and how much was execution and design.

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  • notyanotya Registered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »

    That house is genuinely awesome, though. Like, sure, shag carpet, the raised areas around the edges of various rooms keeps you from using that area for storage or the like, and a few rooms cross the line into being "themed", but there's some interesting design choices here that I appreciate.

    That house fucks.

    If I lived there and wasn't having sex parties or at least just sex sex, I'd feel very down about myself.

  • That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    That_Guy wrote: »
    OH GOD THE SHOWER IS CARPETED. WHY???

    Look it was a different time, different preferences.

  • CptHamiltonCptHamilton Registered User regular
    That_Guy wrote: »
    OH GOD THE SHOWER IS CARPETED. WHY???

    I wonder if carpet-cleaning services are even set up to handle things like that.
    "Yeah, I need 2000 square feet of floors cleaned...and another 300 square feet of walls and trim."

    I'm also really curious as to how nightmare-inducing the results must be of sleeping (much less doing anything else) in that bed with the curved mirror over it.

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