It was requested we corner off the MCU and Marvel talk from places like the movie thread, so, here ya go! A place for folks to talk, speculate, argue, and be generally the worst regarding all things Marvel (up to and including the MCU).
What is our stance on spoilers based off of trailers, commercials, advertising, and all other elements of marketing?
Official spoiler policy from me is that you don't have to spoiler tag things from trailers. I'm sorry if you're avoiding them, but it's not a reasonable ask for people not to discuss advertisements.
I'm fine changing this thread's spoiler policy to reflect the following:
-- Films currently in theaters or not yet released on DVD or a streaming platform are spoilered
-- Films on DVD or streaming platforms are completely open
-- Episodes of new MCU TV properties are spoiled for the first week after their release
-- Speculation from marketing of MCU properties is completely open
And speaking of trailers, we just had a few new ones drop:
DR. STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqgMOON KNIGHThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM3Yx-5Ymiw
There is more coming as well!!
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"The Loki TV show is obviously going to heavily tie into Multiverse of Madness. The What If show is just a fun little side thing."
*Multiverse trailer comes out and seemingly ties into What If rather heavily*
Also the major threat is going to be Galactus. They keep ramping up the literal size of their final bosses this decade so I think that's where we're gonna land.
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I think speculation can be posted openly & freely
With the serial numbers filed off, because apparently the name was from a Conan book way back when.
Doesn't make sense to me, I can't imagine the Conan IP is bringing in enough that Disney couldn't back up a truck full of money to the estate and get the name.
But then, I'm not a multi-billion dollar player in the entertainment industry. Maybe it makes more sense from that point of view.
I think it'd be easy enough to "effectively" have Shuma-Gortah, just change the name.
I doubt the Conan estate owns the concept of comic tentacle monster.
EDIT: Name is taken from Kull the Conqueror story, but it sounds like the character itself is unique to Marvel, so unless that name is trademarked, there shouldn't be any trouble with Marvel using it I guess.
It says that the Howard estate owns the name and created it in 1967 for The Curse of the Golden Skull .
And Marvel Premier #10 was in 73.
TBH, the only things I know about it are from the Marvel Vs Capcom game, where I played him because he was a weird little tentacle monster (I was terrible though).
That seems to be what they're doing. Just wish they'd found a better sounding name than "Gargantos".
Sounds like something out of Venture Bros.
does anyone recognize the voice here at 1:19
"we should tell him the truth"
Nobody has a trademark on Shuma-Gorath, as far as I can tell, so all Marvel should need to demonstrate is that the character is unique from the one from Krull, and I'm not sure if the Krull one existed beyond the name.
Sounds like Ian Mckellen a.k.a. Mag Freaking Nito
Like, it's cosmic horror, that's the whole of existence for so many of those beings
I think the only reference in the old conan stories is the phrase "Iron bound books of Shuma-Gorath."
Marvel's Shuma-Gorath has a specific visual design and character history.
Like, we're literally recognizing them in this film because of that design.
clearly it's James McAvoy reprising his role as professor Javier
Right but that doesn't mean that the figure doesn't exist
Like, that's the most reference that half of Lovecraft's shit gets, and there is a whole cottage industry of trying to turn those into more than that now
Marvel did a bunch of that for Howard's work through their history of making licensed work, but that doesn't make the original work any less Howard's
Looks like they are going to use the Illuminati in place of the council which makes sense.
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because while I would adore a build up to galactus or some such other big nonsense I haven't been following on who owns what anymore
They were owned by Fox which is now owned by Disney.
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which actor could even play him, conceivably
who walks the line between completely hammy and genuine dread that they haven't already used elsewhere
he voiced him in the 90s cartoon and he was perfect
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Who’s to say that giant cloud they have a shot of them preparing to fight isn’t Galactus?
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I have to imagine the film will open up in a friendly enough manner.
The latest Spider-Man basically included the end of Far From Home, as to help ease audiences into its newly central conflict.
But the Wanda stuff? Eeeeeh... They'll probably offer a few lines if dialogue to clue folks in but... I'm not hopeful on how they summarize that whole affair.
The movie will include the basic context, but if you want the full explanation of what happened and why, you'll need to watch those, yes. Spider-Man was an extremely fun watch and I thought Wandavision was interesting and well done also, so it shouldn't be a bear to get through.
Speaking of catching up, after about a year + of basically not watching any TV at all, I've been watching an episode of something per day and with this method have finished all the MCU stuff save What If, which I started yesterday. My fave so far was Hawkeye, and my least favorite (I didn't hate it) was Loki.
I think they're playing fast and loose with the TV show narratives as i'm sure they know most people aren't that invested. As for Spidy, I mean it's a great movie you should consider watching but mainly Strange cast a wish spell and Spidy fucked it up and now there's a bunch of holes in our dimension, so not a ton you need to know.
I know that's very generalized stuff but I just want to be clear with all that
It all feels like homework.
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