As far as I'm aware the large rises in cases and hospitalizations in the US have been caused by new variants and not be restrictions being loosened. Maybe there's a public safety argument to continue mask wearing when it's not needed so it's available for the next variant, but it makes a lot more sense to me to reduce restrictions when cases are low and then re-implement them if needed if cases rise again, presumably due to another variant. This is the model that at least the Bay Area has followed and appears to have reasonably worked.
Narrator: "They didn't reimplement them."
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RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
Everyone's wearing the masks correctly in the first panel
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And, again, it's not like wearing a mask when you are unwell is some bizarre new thing to places not in the Western world.
You go virtually anywhere that has a larger modern Chinese/Asian diaspora and you're going to find people in masks.
They may have a cold, they may have allergies, they may just have a sick child at home. They will wear a mask.
It's a polite courtesy to those around you.
The rest of the world picking up on this courtesy of not flagrantly potentially infecting others with gross germs *is not a bad thing*.
You get a sniffles, you put on a mask. Literally the easiest thing you can do.
Fuck. Why, after two fucking years of this, why is it so hard to still comprehend. Why.
"But is it forever?!?!"
Yes! It should be. Grow the fuck up and behave as is you live in a society with other people, some more vulnerable than you, who also have lived and also fucking matter.
Sorry. Govt announced today that they're easing restrictions starting this weekend and we're still not past the Omicron peak in most places and I'm Very Anxious for those around me that are not protected.
I'm 100% always going to be wearing masks when I'm unwell and out of my family bubble. I'll put my mask on when I'm healthy when my local numbers start going back up.
Fortunately I barely go anywhere anyway so it doesn't really effect myself lol.
Groceries are delivered now. Online shopping. Curbside pickups. The future for my hermit personality is here.
The dumb thing for me is at work, before COVID, people didn't have a problem wearing some kind of mask. There's a lot of dust and dirt in the air (warehouse work) and a mask/face covering helped filter some of that out. Then a certain someone made mask-wearing a political stance, and people stopped wearing them, and refused to put them on; the same people that were already wearing them before that for non-COVID reasons!
Getting COVID (or just black lung) to own the libs.
You can tell the that's Montréal's metro map, but everything around it does not fit. The lightning, the seat arrangement, calling it a subway, all of it.
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Moderna is going to seek FDA approval for it's under 6 vaccine.
Longer:
Though, the efficacy was 43.7% in children 6 months to 2 years old, and 37.5% in children from 2 to under 6. No severe cases of COVID-19 were reported.
[...] Moderna said, "The majority of adverse events were mild or moderate and were more frequently reported after dose two."
17% of children from 6 months to under 2 years old had fevers of 100.4 degrees, while 14.6% of children from 2 to under 6 had the same side effect. These results are "consistent with other commonly used and recommended pediatric vaccines," the release said.
No deaths were reported, and there were no signs of myocarditis, or heart inflammation, as a side effect.
Edit: Also those efficacy numbers etc are from Omicron wave of which we know 2 shot for adults is not great.
Myoung Cha is is CSO for Carbon Health, and was previously at Apple, working for their health strategic initiatives. He recently posted a well sourced thread on Twitter about the BA.2 situation. The whole thing is worth a look, but one of the more salient points he makes is that with the shift to Rapid Antigen Tests (which historically have a much higher false negative rate than PCR), the unwinding of masking and distancing measures, and the Return to Work/Normal mentality, we're unlikely to fully grasp or even see the BA.2 wave when it hits. These factors, combined with the reduction in testing and funding, are liable to make circumstances where BA.2 will be free to flourish.
I know of several people in the last few weeks who have very obvious COVID symptoms, but have tested negative on a Rapid Antigen Test and dismissed it as a cold. And then come to work, unmasked.
Myoung Cha is is CSO for Carbon Health, and was previously at Apple, working for their health strategic initiatives. He recently posted a well sourced thread on Twitter about the BA.2 situation. The whole thing is worth a look, but one of the more salient points he makes is that with the shift to Rapid Antigen Tests (which historically have a much higher false negative rate than PCR), the unwinding of masking and distancing measures, and the Return to Work/Normal mentality, we're unlikely to fully grasp or even see the BA.2 wave when it hits. These factors, combined with the reduction in testing and funding, are liable to make circumstances where BA.2 will be free to flourish.
I know of several people in the last few weeks who have very obvious COVID symptoms, but have tested negative on a Rapid Antigen Test and dismissed it as a cold. And then come to work, unmasked.
(also once again people please please start buying the good rapid tests. Some of which report to health authorities automatically even!)
The volume of tests is different from what Myoung Cha is saying, which is basically that the PCR tests are being replaced by antigen tests, which is (could be?) a problem regardless of if the number of tests is the same.
Myoung Cha is is CSO for Carbon Health, and was previously at Apple, working for their health strategic initiatives. He recently posted a well sourced thread on Twitter about the BA.2 situation. The whole thing is worth a look, but one of the more salient points he makes is that with the shift to Rapid Antigen Tests (which historically have a much higher false negative rate than PCR), the unwinding of masking and distancing measures, and the Return to Work/Normal mentality, we're unlikely to fully grasp or even see the BA.2 wave when it hits. These factors, combined with the reduction in testing and funding, are liable to make circumstances where BA.2 will be free to flourish.
I know of several people in the last few weeks who have very obvious COVID symptoms, but have tested negative on a Rapid Antigen Test and dismissed it as a cold. And then come to work, unmasked.
(also once again people please please start buying the good rapid tests. Some of which report to health authorities automatically even!)
The volume of tests is different from what Myoung Cha is saying, which is basically that the PCR tests are being replaced by antigen tests, which is (could be?) a problem regardless of if the number of tests is the same.
So there's no replacing going on on a scale that will matter for seeing the wave. People showing in public because of a false negative is the bigger issue
Aren't the issues with the rapid tests inherent to the fact they're rapid tests? (And that they're used by regular people without training)
No. The 2-pack rapid tests have an accuracy usually around 70% compared to PCR. There are other tests that pass 90, sometimes much higher. When used by the same people.
And a lot of PCR tests are self-collected, too.
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Over the 4 days of infection before the typical time of symptom onset (day 5), the probability of a false-negative result in an infected person decreases from 100% (95% CI, 100% to 100%) on day 1 to 67% (CI, 27% to 94%) on day 4. On the day of symptom onset, the median false-negative rate was 38% (CI, 18% to 65%). This decreased to 20% (CI, 12% to 30%) on day 8 (3 days after symptom onset) then began to increase again, from 21% (CI, 13% to 31%) on day 9 to 66% (CI, 54% to 77%) on day 21.
This is less a "all rapid tests are bad" problem and more of a "we're still in a pandemic for god's sake just assume any sniffle is COVID until you're better" problem.
Over the 4 days of infection before the typical time of symptom onset (day 5), the probability of a false-negative result in an infected person decreases from 100% (95% CI, 100% to 100%) on day 1 to 67% (CI, 27% to 94%) on day 4. On the day of symptom onset, the median false-negative rate was 38% (CI, 18% to 65%). This decreased to 20% (CI, 12% to 30%) on day 8 (3 days after symptom onset) then began to increase again, from 21% (CI, 13% to 31%) on day 9 to 66% (CI, 54% to 77%) on day 21.
This is less a "all rapid tests are bad" problem and more of a "we're still in a pandemic for god's sake just assume any sniffle is COVID until you're better" problem.
Also I would really like "Don't come in if you have symptoms of COVID" to remain a thing. People coming to work/appointments with colds are a public nuisance.
Over the 4 days of infection before the typical time of symptom onset (day 5), the probability of a false-negative result in an infected person decreases from 100% (95% CI, 100% to 100%) on day 1 to 67% (CI, 27% to 94%) on day 4. On the day of symptom onset, the median false-negative rate was 38% (CI, 18% to 65%). This decreased to 20% (CI, 12% to 30%) on day 8 (3 days after symptom onset) then began to increase again, from 21% (CI, 13% to 31%) on day 9 to 66% (CI, 54% to 77%) on day 21.
This is less a "all rapid tests are bad" problem and more of a "we're still in a pandemic for god's sake just assume any sniffle is COVID until you're better" problem.
Also I would really like "Don't come in if you have symptoms of COVID" to remain a thing. People coming to work/appointments with colds are a public nuisance.
So this is interesting. 12 students & their families sued a Virginia school district and the state over the mask optional policy. They argued that because they are at high risk for COVID allowing their classmates to not mask effectively excluded them from school. And that this was a violation of the ADA.
The judge agreed they had enough of a case to put an injunction in place requiring masks in those classes.
Whelp, got all the way until today without needing to do a COVID test.
Stepson just tested positive while at his Dads Thursday night, he was last with us Wednesday morning.
His Dad didn’t feel the need to notify us at all, instead we found out through the school’s attendance notification app.
Your avatar is a perfect encapsulation of how I'd be feeling.
The abject laziness/selfishness of people is why I'm getting fed up with people, period.
I get them not thinking it's a big deal. But the fact that it's one of the most problematic contagious diseases we've had in forever, and at least in my country/state, testing positive is a 7-day self-isolation. So, thanks for springing potentially a forced week off work for me.
I mean, at this point, if I get it, I get it. But if it's due to someone I know proactively being a dipshit, I don't know if I'd ever speak to them again. Obviously, because there's a child involved, you can't do that. But anyone else, to hell with that person.
Chances are that the Stepson caught it on public transit. His Dad moved out of the neighborhood after the divorce and forces the kid to take public transit for almost 2 hours each way to get to school, when he is with us his mom drops him off and his grandparents pick him up.
We offered to reduce/waive child support so that he could live with us full time during the school year, and visit on evenings/weekends, but the Dad refused because he felt it would look bad on him not having shared custody.
Then there are numerous other living/hygiene issues that keep coming up whenever he spends time with his Dad 🤬
Whelp, got all the way until today without needing to do a COVID test.
Stepson just tested positive while at his Dads Thursday night, he was last with us Wednesday morning.
His Dad didn’t feel the need to notify us at all, instead we found out through the school’s attendance notification app.
Your avatar is a perfect encapsulation of how I'd be feeling.
The abject laziness/selfishness of people is why I'm getting fed up with people, period.
I get them not thinking it's a big deal. But the fact that it's one of the most problematic contagious diseases we've had in forever, and at least in my country/state, testing positive is a 7-day self-isolation. So, thanks for springing potentially a forced week off work for me.
I mean, at this point, if I get it, I get it. But if it's due to someone I know proactively being a dipshit, I don't know if I'd ever speak to them again. Obviously, because there's a child involved, you can't do that. But anyone else, to hell with that person.
Chances are that the Stepson caught it on public transit. His Dad moved out of the neighborhood after the divorce and forces the kid to take public transit for almost 2 hours each way to get to school, when he is with us his mom drops him off and his grandparents pick him up.
We offered to reduce/waive child support so that he could live with us full time during the school year, and visit on evenings/weekends, but the Dad refused because he felt it would look bad on him not having shared custody.
Then there are numerous other living/hygiene issues that keep coming up whenever he spends time with his Dad 🤬
Selfishness in that he didn't feel the need to notify you, not selfish in how the contagion happened. Maybe selfishness isn't the right term?
I mean, it sounds like Stepson was in a position to catch it also because of Dad's selfishness...
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Over the 4 days of infection before the typical time of symptom onset (day 5), the probability of a false-negative result in an infected person decreases from 100% (95% CI, 100% to 100%) on day 1 to 67% (CI, 27% to 94%) on day 4. On the day of symptom onset, the median false-negative rate was 38% (CI, 18% to 65%). This decreased to 20% (CI, 12% to 30%) on day 8 (3 days after symptom onset) then began to increase again, from 21% (CI, 13% to 31%) on day 9 to 66% (CI, 54% to 77%) on day 21.
This is less a "all rapid tests are bad" problem and more of a "we're still in a pandemic for god's sake just assume any sniffle is COVID until you're better" problem.
The problem with that, given our current society, is that for most people it's untenable. They don't get the amount of sick time they'd need, and even if you can afford to take a bunch of unpaid days off, if you do that can lead to trouble and possibly losing your job one way or the other. While things like people not wanting to wear masks is often an individual selfishness issue, many of these problems are due to collective action societal issues that those with the power to seem unwilling to address adequately.
And then in a minority of cases you have situations where for example people with sinus issues often have stuffy noses and low level coughing somewhat frequently, and I don't know about other people, but if I stayed home every time I had a cough I'd be home far more often than I'd be at work, because I cough both as a result of normal congestion issues, and as a nervous tick.
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Over the 4 days of infection before the typical time of symptom onset (day 5), the probability of a false-negative result in an infected person decreases from 100% (95% CI, 100% to 100%) on day 1 to 67% (CI, 27% to 94%) on day 4. On the day of symptom onset, the median false-negative rate was 38% (CI, 18% to 65%). This decreased to 20% (CI, 12% to 30%) on day 8 (3 days after symptom onset) then began to increase again, from 21% (CI, 13% to 31%) on day 9 to 66% (CI, 54% to 77%) on day 21.
This is less a "all rapid tests are bad" problem and more of a "we're still in a pandemic for god's sake just assume any sniffle is COVID until you're better" problem.
The problem with that, given our current society, is that for most people it's untenable. They don't get the amount of sick time they'd need, and even if you can afford to take a bunch of unpaid days off, if you do that can lead to trouble and possibly losing your job one way or the other. While things like people not wanting to wear masks is often an individual selfishness issue, many of these problems are due to collective action societal issues that those with the power to seem unwilling to address adequately.
And then in a minority of cases you have situations where for example people with sinus issues often have stuffy noses and low level coughing somewhat frequently, and I don't know about other people, but if I stayed home every time I had a cough I'd be home far more often than I'd be at work, because I cough both as a result of normal congestion issues, and as a nervous tick.
For sure yeah. If I didn't go to work every time I had a runny nose I'd basically not be able to work during the spring.
Over the 4 days of infection before the typical time of symptom onset (day 5), the probability of a false-negative result in an infected person decreases from 100% (95% CI, 100% to 100%) on day 1 to 67% (CI, 27% to 94%) on day 4. On the day of symptom onset, the median false-negative rate was 38% (CI, 18% to 65%). This decreased to 20% (CI, 12% to 30%) on day 8 (3 days after symptom onset) then began to increase again, from 21% (CI, 13% to 31%) on day 9 to 66% (CI, 54% to 77%) on day 21.
This is less a "all rapid tests are bad" problem and more of a "we're still in a pandemic for god's sake just assume any sniffle is COVID until you're better" problem.
The problem with that, given our current society, is that for most people it's untenable. They don't get the amount of sick time they'd need, and even if you can afford to take a bunch of unpaid days off, if you do that can lead to trouble and possibly losing your job one way or the other. While things like people not wanting to wear masks is often an individual selfishness issue, many of these problems are due to collective action societal issues that those with the power to seem unwilling to address adequately.
And then in a minority of cases you have situations where for example people with sinus issues often have stuffy noses and low level coughing somewhat frequently, and I don't know about other people, but if I stayed home every time I had a cough I'd be home far more often than I'd be at work, because I cough both as a result of normal congestion issues, and as a nervous tick.
For sure yeah. If I didn't go to work every time I had a runny nose I'd basically not be able to work during the spring.
This
I have severe allergies. Most of the symptoms of colds/Covid are my daily life.
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Schools here stopped masking this week because our numbers were in good shape.
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Everyone's wearing the masks correctly in the first panel
You go virtually anywhere that has a larger modern Chinese/Asian diaspora and you're going to find people in masks.
They may have a cold, they may have allergies, they may just have a sick child at home. They will wear a mask.
It's a polite courtesy to those around you.
The rest of the world picking up on this courtesy of not flagrantly potentially infecting others with gross germs *is not a bad thing*.
You get a sniffles, you put on a mask. Literally the easiest thing you can do.
Fuck. Why, after two fucking years of this, why is it so hard to still comprehend. Why.
"But is it forever?!?!"
Yes! It should be. Grow the fuck up and behave as is you live in a society with other people, some more vulnerable than you, who also have lived and also fucking matter.
Sorry. Govt announced today that they're easing restrictions starting this weekend and we're still not past the Omicron peak in most places and I'm Very Anxious for those around me that are not protected.
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Fortunately I barely go anywhere anyway so it doesn't really effect myself lol.
Groceries are delivered now. Online shopping. Curbside pickups. The future for my hermit personality is here.
Getting COVID (or just black lung) to own the libs.
You can tell the that's Montréal's metro map, but everything around it does not fit. The lightning, the seat arrangement, calling it a subway, all of it.
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/23/1088167753/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-children-fda
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/23/1088167753/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-children-fda
TLDR: Yes.
Longer:
Though, the efficacy was 43.7% in children 6 months to 2 years old, and 37.5% in children from 2 to under 6. No severe cases of COVID-19 were reported.
[...] Moderna said, "The majority of adverse events were mild or moderate and were more frequently reported after dose two."
17% of children from 6 months to under 2 years old had fevers of 100.4 degrees, while 14.6% of children from 2 to under 6 had the same side effect. These results are "consistent with other commonly used and recommended pediatric vaccines," the release said.
No deaths were reported, and there were no signs of myocarditis, or heart inflammation, as a side effect.
Edit: Also those efficacy numbers etc are from Omicron wave of which we know 2 shot for adults is not great.
US recorded test volume has declined, but not that much. Though the budget problems may cause issues there. In a major wave a lot of people will be very sick, and those people will definitely be getting PCR tests.
(also once again people please please start buying the good rapid tests. Some of which report to health authorities automatically even!)
The volume of tests is different from what Myoung Cha is saying, which is basically that the PCR tests are being replaced by antigen tests, which is (could be?) a problem regardless of if the number of tests is the same.
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In reality its been about 4 months. With Covid continuing to change Its harder to keep up with new tests.
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The volume of tests is mostly recording PCR tests. CA as an example NY: "Test results data comes from the Electronic Clinical Laboratory Reporting System (ECLRS), a NYSDOH database that contains reported results from all the labs testing samples from New York State residents." etc. Some rapid tests do report, people can manually report but- few people are going to manually report a negative anyway, and as far as I can tell those aren't included in the stats anyway.
So there's no replacing going on on a scale that will matter for seeing the wave. People showing in public because of a false negative is the bigger issue
Tested negative today. We'll see what Friday brings.
No. The 2-pack rapid tests have an accuracy usually around 70% compared to PCR. There are other tests that pass 90, sometimes much higher. When used by the same people.
And a lot of PCR tests are self-collected, too.
This is less a "all rapid tests are bad" problem and more of a "we're still in a pandemic for god's sake just assume any sniffle is COVID until you're better" problem.
Also I would really like "Don't come in if you have symptoms of COVID" to remain a thing. People coming to work/appointments with colds are a public nuisance.
yes, but the Beast Capitalism must be fed.
Stepson just tested positive while at his Dads Thursday night, he was last with us Wednesday morning.
His Dad didn’t feel the need to notify us at all, instead we found out through the school’s attendance notification app.
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The judge agreed they had enough of a case to put an injunction in place requiring masks in those classes.
https://apnews.com/article/covid-health-education-virginia-9c1841d5fdaf4f2f24bd3f027265cfa1
Chances are that the Stepson caught it on public transit. His Dad moved out of the neighborhood after the divorce and forces the kid to take public transit for almost 2 hours each way to get to school, when he is with us his mom drops him off and his grandparents pick him up.
We offered to reduce/waive child support so that he could live with us full time during the school year, and visit on evenings/weekends, but the Dad refused because he felt it would look bad on him not having shared custody.
Then there are numerous other living/hygiene issues that keep coming up whenever he spends time with his Dad 🤬
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I mean, it sounds like Stepson was in a position to catch it also because of Dad's selfishness...
The problem with that, given our current society, is that for most people it's untenable. They don't get the amount of sick time they'd need, and even if you can afford to take a bunch of unpaid days off, if you do that can lead to trouble and possibly losing your job one way or the other. While things like people not wanting to wear masks is often an individual selfishness issue, many of these problems are due to collective action societal issues that those with the power to seem unwilling to address adequately.
And then in a minority of cases you have situations where for example people with sinus issues often have stuffy noses and low level coughing somewhat frequently, and I don't know about other people, but if I stayed home every time I had a cough I'd be home far more often than I'd be at work, because I cough both as a result of normal congestion issues, and as a nervous tick.
At least the daily numbers are trending down; we're back to where we were in August.
The question is how bad is the reporting from our reddest states? Its got to be worse than it was last year.
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For sure yeah. If I didn't go to work every time I had a runny nose I'd basically not be able to work during the spring.
This
I have severe allergies. Most of the symptoms of colds/Covid are my daily life.
Going back to it next week!
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