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Americans are programmed to dismiss all social problems the moment they hear it primarily affects black people. I'm pretty sure Covid hit black people harder initially because they tend to live in densely populated cities. This did not mean that it was some sort of "black people mainly disease" like sickle cell. Subsequent waves hit the countryside, suburbs and white people hard.
Population density was not correlated with COVID, crowdedness was.
There are walls between me and the 37 other neighbors in my building. Because my wife and I can afford to live on our own together. Lower income neighborhoods generally have more roommates, including multigenerational roommates, within the same walls to afford rent and that spreads COVID. Especially when your lower wage job is "essential" and in-person interacting with the kind of public that goes for a Starbucks run in a plague.
I think a lot of it is a societal issue of not admitting you were wrong. So these people spent the first several months claiming "it's not worse than the flu!" and then Delta came along and fucked everyone up. Instead of saying "I was wrong" people fucking doubled down on their bullshit. I'm trying to teach my kids that it's okay to change your mind after new evidence. I know it's just 3 kids but that's 3 more than we had previously. Hopefully it'll make a difference one day.
A large study of deworming drug ivermectin found that it didn’t help keep patients out of the hospital, nor did it improve speed of recovery or reduce the risk of death
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According to a new publication in The Lancet, post-COVID patients have an increased risk of developing diabetes.
In the post-acute phase of the disease, compared with the contemporary control group, people with COVID-19 exhibited an increased risk (HR 1·40, 95% CI 1·36–1·44) and excess burden (13·46, 95% CI 12·11–14·84, per 1000 people at 12 months) of incident diabetes
Eric Topol (Professor of Molecular Medicine, Scripps Research) weighs in on this topic as well:
The ~40% increased risk of diabetes, in people with Covid, not present at 1 month, but manifest at 1-year follow-up among 180,000 infectees vs 4.3 million controls
According to a new publication in The Lancet, post-COVID patients have an increased risk of developing diabetes.
In the post-acute phase of the disease, compared with the contemporary control group, people with COVID-19 exhibited an increased risk (HR 1·40, 95% CI 1·36–1·44) and excess burden (13·46, 95% CI 12·11–14·84, per 1000 people at 12 months) of incident diabetes
Eric Topol (Professor of Molecular Medicine, Scripps Research) weighs in on this topic as well:
The ~40% increased risk of diabetes, in people with Covid, not present at 1 month, but manifest at 1-year follow-up among 180,000 infectees vs 4.3 million controls
They split up the data by care needed; if you get COVID but don't end up in the hospital, there is a small increase, but if you end up in the hospital, the increase is much more substantial, and intensive care increases the chances more.
I read that paper today. It is quite interesting but it was a very specific cohort of middle aged men they studied. It doesn't seem to hold true for all ages at all and they may have been prediabetic already. Another hypothesis is that they were already diabetic but had been avoiding hospitals since medical care kind of broke down the past few years.
Additionally, despite earlier claims, multiple labs have shown that COVID does not kill pancreas cells (one way to cause diabetes in people).
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Additionally, despite earlier claims, multiple labs have shown that COVID does not kill pancreas cells (one way to cause diabetes in people).
This is very good news - Do you mind my asking for the source on this? Given how COVID seems to run rampant through so many different tissues, its not killing pancreas cells is heartening.
According to a new publication in The Lancet, post-COVID patients have an increased risk of developing diabetes.
In the post-acute phase of the disease, compared with the contemporary control group, people with COVID-19 exhibited an increased risk (HR 1·40, 95% CI 1·36–1·44) and excess burden (13·46, 95% CI 12·11–14·84, per 1000 people at 12 months) of incident diabetes
Eric Topol (Professor of Molecular Medicine, Scripps Research) weighs in on this topic as well:
The ~40% increased risk of diabetes, in people with Covid, not present at 1 month, but manifest at 1-year follow-up among 180,000 infectees vs 4.3 million controls
I'm probably one of these people, although in my case it's type-1. I recently (well, in the last year) developed an autoimmune condition that wrecked my pancreas and killed off most of the beta cells, putting me on insulin. My Endo and I discussed the timing of the symptoms and when I had COVID and they're thinking it may have been linked.
May not have been, either, but literally nobody in my entire known family history has had diabetes of any variety.
Additionally, despite earlier claims, multiple labs have shown that COVID does not kill pancreas cells (one way to cause diabetes in people).
This is very good news - Do you mind my asking for the source on this? Given how COVID seems to run rampant through so many different tissues, its not killing pancreas cells is heartening.
According to a new publication in The Lancet, post-COVID patients have an increased risk of developing diabetes.
In the post-acute phase of the disease, compared with the contemporary control group, people with COVID-19 exhibited an increased risk (HR 1·40, 95% CI 1·36–1·44) and excess burden (13·46, 95% CI 12·11–14·84, per 1000 people at 12 months) of incident diabetes
Eric Topol (Professor of Molecular Medicine, Scripps Research) weighs in on this topic as well:
The ~40% increased risk of diabetes, in people with Covid, not present at 1 month, but manifest at 1-year follow-up among 180,000 infectees vs 4.3 million controls
I'm probably one of these people, although in my case it's type-1. I recently (well, in the last year) developed an autoimmune condition that wrecked my pancreas and killed off most of the beta cells, putting me on insulin. My Endo and I discussed the timing of the symptoms and when I had COVID and they're thinking it may have been linked.
May not have been, either, but literally nobody in my entire known family history has had diabetes of any variety.
I don't know the case for type 1 so it could still be the case. I got a full body rosea rash during pandemic year one. Lots of weird shit happened to all of us. Could be chronic stress also.
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According to a new publication in The Lancet, post-COVID patients have an increased risk of developing diabetes.
In the post-acute phase of the disease, compared with the contemporary control group, people with COVID-19 exhibited an increased risk (HR 1·40, 95% CI 1·36–1·44) and excess burden (13·46, 95% CI 12·11–14·84, per 1000 people at 12 months) of incident diabetes
Eric Topol (Professor of Molecular Medicine, Scripps Research) weighs in on this topic as well:
The ~40% increased risk of diabetes, in people with Covid, not present at 1 month, but manifest at 1-year follow-up among 180,000 infectees vs 4.3 million controls
I'm probably one of these people, although in my case it's type-1. I recently (well, in the last year) developed an autoimmune condition that wrecked my pancreas and killed off most of the beta cells, putting me on insulin. My Endo and I discussed the timing of the symptoms and when I had COVID and they're thinking it may have been linked.
May not have been, either, but literally nobody in my entire known family history has had diabetes of any variety.
I don't know the case for type 1 so it could still be the case. I got a full body rosea rash during pandemic year one. Lots of weird shit happened to all of us. Could be chronic stress also.
Yeah, I've had a couple bouts of nasty stomach flu since COVID hit the stage, but other than shitting my brains out for about 48 hours, the stress has been the biggest anchor pulling my health down. With the world seemingly going to hell in a handbasket, I've had my antidepressant dosages tweaked more in the last 18 months than in the entirety of my teenage years.
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Newest tweet by Eric Topol has a preprint study with some decent and surprising news.
Study reinforces support that Omicron infection protects against BA.2 and most likely BA.3 as well. Also estimates about 40% (holy) of the population in US got BA.1 which will most likely temper the BA.2 wave some.
The waste water numbers on the omicron surge were daunting, like all former surges were nothing compared to omicron pretty much anywhere they were doing waste water tracking. It was wild.
...what about us shut-ins who have somehow still managed to avoid COVID (most likely) and only have vaccination?
BA.2 also is reasonably not dangerous to people who have been vaccinated, particularly if they have been boosted with the last several months.
Yes I can try to find a study for that later there are a couple i remember seeing. Also even with waning "protection" the protection from severe outcomes was shown to last and stay high even as "protection" waned.
We are very lucky Omicron wasn't the first variant to break out. It's "mild" but that's compared to say Delta. Compared to the original strain it's just about as bad
That spread in a completely immune naive population with no treatments or vaccines..
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BA.2 is still not fun, can knock you out for weeks if you are young and fit and have three shots
There's also sufficient evidence that damage done after the acute phase, and after "Recovery", can be equally not fun. POTS, digestive problems, heart issues - all possible even after getting over a 'mild' case. (Link to Johns Hopkins Medicine discussion of Long COVID)
It's always always always important that mild is a relative term. Even when people were talking about "mild" cases of OG covid it was a situation where you had one of the worst flu experiences of your life - you just didn't have to go to hospital and weren't at any risk of dying. One of the frustrations of the differences between how something is spoken about medically versus how something is spoken about colloquially
Someone I know got Covid with no symptoms at all and so did her boyfriend. The only reason she knows that she got it is she tested positive on a routine test for her work. Can't get milder than that.
Someone I know got Covid with no symptoms at all and so did her boyfriend. The only reason she knows that she got it is she tested positive on a routine test for her work. Can't get milder than that.
And the range for mild goes from that to "I should go to the hospital buut...do I really need to.."
Someone I know got Covid with no symptoms at all and so did her boyfriend. The only reason she knows that she got it is she tested positive on a routine test for her work. Can't get milder than that.
And the range for mild goes from that to "I should go to the hospital buut...do I really need to.. can I afford to?"
My father, who is over 70 and diabetic, had no symptoms other than a loss of smell (which still hasn't returned). Of course they put him on every non-anti-parasitic drug they were currently tinkering with at the time (this was December 2020).
At this point I would not be surprised about any covid symptoms ranging from death to "gives minor super strength or partial invulnerability to sporks."
Someone I know got Covid with no symptoms at all and so did her boyfriend. The only reason she knows that she got it is she tested positive on a routine test for her work. Can't get milder than that.
And the range for mild goes from that to "I should go to the hospital buut...do I really need to.. can I afford to?"
Mild Covid probably includes a lot of people permanently disabled due to long covid.
It looks like the test-to-treat website is up, including a test-to-treat site locator. I still haven't heard very good things about general accessibility (in the website "if treatment is appropriate for them" is doing a lot of heavy lifting), but I think a lot of that may be that the general processes haven't yet been developed, not that there is no courses available.
One of my "memories" on social media was just 2 years ago a post from our emergency management saying that they have been getting too many drop offs from people sewing masks for hospitals and had a ton to give away. Man it wasnt that long after that the politization began.
A large study of deworming drug ivermectin found that it didn’t help keep patients out of the hospital, nor did it improve speed of recovery or reduce the risk of death
Truly, who could have foreseen these results?
Studies were being done on it. What’s bad here is trying to declare something a cure before there’s a concrete body of work. Even if Ivermectin was proven to do something months later, that doesn’t vindicate them for jumping to something as miracle cure so they can declare covid over. This was why Trump beating the HCQ treatment drum sucked: he was groping for a shortcut around this pandemic because taking the correct steps would have damaged his darling economy, and he didn’t consider that the drug was used for other treatments. So suddenly the demand for HCQ shot up and created a shortage for people who actually needed it.
It’s been especially aggravating during this pandemic, as some random jackhole claims X with nothing to back it up, X turns out to be right, and…that still doesn’t make them a medical authority.
Attempts in mainland China to be Covid free appear to be floundering despite being much harsher than elsewhere and the problems appear to be for similar reasons as Hong Kong.
Shanghai, which has been forced to follow Beijing’s tough “dynamic zero” Covid strategy, implemented two four-day lockdowns of each side of Huangpu river. But as the caseload of the infectious Omicron variant rose rapidly, authorities extended restrictions on parts of the eastern Pudong area, which includes the city’s financial district.
Cries for help littered social media this weekend before being deleted by censors, as the city’s case count overtook that of Hong Kong, which recorded the world’s highest fatality rate in March.
Residents on social media said online grocery stores had run out of food while others complained that they could not buy their regular medication. “Who can tell me how to get medicine? I am so hopeless. I want to leave Shanghai,” said one resident.
Some Shanghainese, who have been unable to leave their homes for more than two weeks owing to restrictions that predated the lockdown because of positive cases in their buildings, have relied on government grocery deliveries.
Parents also pleaded for help after being separated from their young children if they or their child tested positive. Zeng Qun, deputy head of the Shanghai Civil Affairs Bureau, said temporary guardians would be found for children who were not infected but were forced to stay at home alone after their parents were sent to quarantine centres, state media reported.
While the number of cases are far below those recorded in the rest of the world, the outbreak threatens Beijing’s efforts to eliminate the virus inside China and prevent disruption to the economy. Low vaccination rates among the very elderly, coupled with no previous exposure to the virus, mean that the country risks a much higher death rate if the outbreak is not contained.
Is there any reason the vaccinations rates among the elderly are low?
Attempts in mainland China to be Covid free appear to be floundering despite being much harsher than elsewhere and the problems appear to be for similar reasons as Hong Kong.
Shanghai, which has been forced to follow Beijing’s tough “dynamic zero” Covid strategy, implemented two four-day lockdowns of each side of Huangpu river. But as the caseload of the infectious Omicron variant rose rapidly, authorities extended restrictions on parts of the eastern Pudong area, which includes the city’s financial district.
Cries for help littered social media this weekend before being deleted by censors, as the city’s case count overtook that of Hong Kong, which recorded the world’s highest fatality rate in March.
Residents on social media said online grocery stores had run out of food while others complained that they could not buy their regular medication. “Who can tell me how to get medicine? I am so hopeless. I want to leave Shanghai,” said one resident.
Some Shanghainese, who have been unable to leave their homes for more than two weeks owing to restrictions that predated the lockdown because of positive cases in their buildings, have relied on government grocery deliveries.
Parents also pleaded for help after being separated from their young children if they or their child tested positive. Zeng Qun, deputy head of the Shanghai Civil Affairs Bureau, said temporary guardians would be found for children who were not infected but were forced to stay at home alone after their parents were sent to quarantine centres, state media reported.
While the number of cases are far below those recorded in the rest of the world, the outbreak threatens Beijing’s efforts to eliminate the virus inside China and prevent disruption to the economy. Low vaccination rates among the very elderly, coupled with no previous exposure to the virus, mean that the country risks a much higher death rate if the outbreak is not contained.
Is there any reason the vaccinations rates among the elderly are low?
Sounds like the usual reasons. Misinformation and being bad at risk assessment.
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Attempts in mainland China to be Covid free appear to be floundering despite being much harsher than elsewhere and the problems appear to be for similar reasons as Hong Kong.
Shanghai, which has been forced to follow Beijing’s tough “dynamic zero” Covid strategy, implemented two four-day lockdowns of each side of Huangpu river. But as the caseload of the infectious Omicron variant rose rapidly, authorities extended restrictions on parts of the eastern Pudong area, which includes the city’s financial district.
Cries for help littered social media this weekend before being deleted by censors, as the city’s case count overtook that of Hong Kong, which recorded the world’s highest fatality rate in March.
Residents on social media said online grocery stores had run out of food while others complained that they could not buy their regular medication. “Who can tell me how to get medicine? I am so hopeless. I want to leave Shanghai,” said one resident.
Some Shanghainese, who have been unable to leave their homes for more than two weeks owing to restrictions that predated the lockdown because of positive cases in their buildings, have relied on government grocery deliveries.
Parents also pleaded for help after being separated from their young children if they or their child tested positive. Zeng Qun, deputy head of the Shanghai Civil Affairs Bureau, said temporary guardians would be found for children who were not infected but were forced to stay at home alone after their parents were sent to quarantine centres, state media reported.
While the number of cases are far below those recorded in the rest of the world, the outbreak threatens Beijing’s efforts to eliminate the virus inside China and prevent disruption to the economy. Low vaccination rates among the very elderly, coupled with no previous exposure to the virus, mean that the country risks a much higher death rate if the outbreak is not contained.
Is there any reason the vaccinations rates among the elderly are low?
China seams to have a lot of pressure they exert on their citizens body autonomy. And censors are keeping people from complaining about access. Does China not have enough vaccines, are they withholding vaccines for undesirables, is there a logistics problem we aren’t aware of?
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Population density was not correlated with COVID, crowdedness was.
There are walls between me and the 37 other neighbors in my building. Because my wife and I can afford to live on our own together. Lower income neighborhoods generally have more roommates, including multigenerational roommates, within the same walls to afford rent and that spreads COVID. Especially when your lower wage job is "essential" and in-person interacting with the kind of public that goes for a Starbucks run in a plague.
Truly, who could have foreseen these results?
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Eric Topol (Professor of Molecular Medicine, Scripps Research) weighs in on this topic as well:
They split up the data by care needed; if you get COVID but don't end up in the hospital, there is a small increase, but if you end up in the hospital, the increase is much more substantial, and intensive care increases the chances more.
Additionally, despite earlier claims, multiple labs have shown that COVID does not kill pancreas cells (one way to cause diabetes in people).
This is very good news - Do you mind my asking for the source on this? Given how COVID seems to run rampant through so many different tissues, its not killing pancreas cells is heartening.
I'm probably one of these people, although in my case it's type-1. I recently (well, in the last year) developed an autoimmune condition that wrecked my pancreas and killed off most of the beta cells, putting me on insulin. My Endo and I discussed the timing of the symptoms and when I had COVID and they're thinking it may have been linked.
May not have been, either, but literally nobody in my entire known family history has had diabetes of any variety.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35247306/?dopt=Abstract
Yeah, I've had a couple bouts of nasty stomach flu since COVID hit the stage, but other than shitting my brains out for about 48 hours, the stress has been the biggest anchor pulling my health down. With the world seemingly going to hell in a handbasket, I've had my antidepressant dosages tweaked more in the last 18 months than in the entirety of my teenage years.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
Newest tweet by Eric Topol has a preprint study with some decent and surprising news.
Study reinforces support that Omicron infection protects against BA.2 and most likely BA.3 as well. Also estimates about 40% (holy) of the population in US got BA.1 which will most likely temper the BA.2 wave some.
I don't doubt that at all. My state went from around 200 cases a day to 17,000 a day in the span of a few weeks
You'll be lucky because if so many people caught Omicron and that helps protect against BA2 then there's less spread out there.
BA.2 also is reasonably not dangerous to people who have been vaccinated, particularly if they have been boosted with the last several months.
Yes I can try to find a study for that later there are a couple i remember seeing. Also even with waning "protection" the protection from severe outcomes was shown to last and stay high even as "protection" waned.
That spread in a completely immune naive population with no treatments or vaccines..
There's also sufficient evidence that damage done after the acute phase, and after "Recovery", can be equally not fun. POTS, digestive problems, heart issues - all possible even after getting over a 'mild' case. (Link to Johns Hopkins Medicine discussion of Long COVID)
And the range for mild goes from that to "I should go to the hospital buut...do I really need to.."
At this point I would not be surprised about any covid symptoms ranging from death to "gives minor super strength or partial invulnerability to sporks."
Mild Covid probably includes a lot of people permanently disabled due to long covid.
https://aspr.hhs.gov/TestToTreat/Pages/
It’s been especially aggravating during this pandemic, as some random jackhole claims X with nothing to back it up, X turns out to be right, and…that still doesn’t make them a medical authority.
https://www.ft.com/content/3e439a10-860b-4ae6-9070-ad8546da8850 Is there any reason the vaccinations rates among the elderly are low?
Sounds like the usual reasons. Misinformation and being bad at risk assessment.
Anyone have any info on what’s going on?
This lists some reasons:
* China started vaccination with essential workers instead of the elderly.
* The elderly were advised to skip the vaccine if they had conditions that put them at risk of harsh side effects.
* The elderly assumed China's zero-COVID policy would protect them. (It mostly did until Omicron.)
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