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One [Elden] Ring to Rule Them All

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Damage type thoughts
    I'm pretty sure Strike is the best damage type this time around. A lot of tough enemies (anything in armour, anything made of rock or crystal) are weak to it, and the only enemies I've found that resist it are slimes that you can just walk past or poke with a torch.

    I feel like this is usually true of most Souls games

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Hey so the reason I specified where I was in the game's story in my post was so people wouldn't throw a fucking spoiler at me from stuff learned later if they replied so thank you very much for completely disregarding that caution cursedking

    ??? That revelation is from way before mountaintops?

    No it certainly isn't. I have been everywhere in the world except end of Mountaintops and the places after. I've read every item description I've come across. Killed every available demigod before Mountaintops. Not once have I seen anything like what you replied to me with.

    I just listed all the stuff in the post. It definitely is, it’s just not overtly stated. It’s certainly not stated any clearer after the section you’re in.
    In the beginning, everything was in opposition to the Erdtree. But through countless victories in war, it became the embodiment of Order.

    protection of the erdtree spell, from atlus plateau.

    The “star beasts” that are in atlus and gelmir and elsewhere.

    Like, the evidence is all there before you fight morgott

    Re: Erdtree
    I have not seen anything to imply that the Erdtree itself is an alien lifeform sucking energy out of the planet like JENOVA. The star beasts, even Ansel, are indeed from the deep cosmos but there's also nothing to link the Erdtree itself to them beyond the Greater Will and the Fingers, which remain enigmatic "god"like beings as far as I know. Maybe they're also from the cosmos. Maybe a higher plane like old gods. Maybe something else.

    The only connecting factor I had for the Fingers and the Erdtree is that the Fingers support a new Elden Lord, but at the moment I was ALSO under the impression the Erdtree was its own separate entity considering the entire reason I'm on the Mountaintops is because the Erdtree refused to let me inside to mend the Elden Ring and the Fingers went silent. What happens after I burn it to get inside, and whenever Farum Azula comes into the picture after that brief visit via the Belfry portal, that I don't know and would like to not know until I reach it.
    one of the things pointing towards the tree being alien is that its base, and the capital with it, looks a lot like an impact crater.

    There is also the Elden Ring itself, called The Root of the Erdtree in one of the trailers. It broke in 6 major fragments and a lotnof splinters, one of which reached the player. I haven't seen any indication where it came from, apart that it came into Marikas possession.

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Spoiler about the Beast Clergyman
    I went to go give him a deathroot but he's hostile and terrifying and I don't need absolution, so is this because
    - related quests spoilers -
    Fia killed D?
    - double D spoiler -
    somebody named D the etc. shows up on my map in Nekron, and right before the gargoyle boss is a person who doesn't really talk, is that D?

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  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Spoiler about the Beast Clergyman
    I went to go give him a deathroot but he's hostile and terrifying and I don't need absolution, so is this because
    - related quests spoilers -
    Fia killed D?
    - double D spoiler -
    somebody named D the etc. shows up on my map in Nekron, and right before the gargoyle boss is a person who doesn't really talk, is that D?
    This is a normal part of the quest you just need to spank him

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    whew

    okay newly upgraded summons, it's your time to shine

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Spoiler about the Beast Clergyman
    I went to go give him a deathroot but he's hostile and terrifying and I don't need absolution, so is this because
    - related quests spoilers -
    Fia killed D?
    - double D spoiler -
    somebody named D the etc. shows up on my map in Nekron, and right before the gargoyle boss is a person who doesn't really talk, is that D?
    It's not D, but there's a relation.
    Do you have D's armor?

  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    whew

    okay newly upgraded summons, it's your time to shine
    I will say to be clear that you shouldn’t kill him. If it’s getting further than 3/4 of his health bar there is something wrong.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Damage type thoughts
    I'm pretty sure Strike is the best damage type this time around. A lot of tough enemies (anything in armour, anything made of rock or crystal) are weak to it, and the only enemies I've found that resist it are slimes that you can just walk past or poke with a torch.
    Not quite, by my estimation. There are a number of enemies that take the most damage from slash and stab. A lot of fleshy bosses do.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Keep in mind that standard damage is separate from slash/thrust/strike

    Lots of enemies seem vulnerable to each type, even bosses

    But swords don't usually do slash or thrust, just standard. Slash is for katanas and other fancy shmancy weapons

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    ....is there slash? huh, there is.

  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    If a weapon is like "standard/strike"... how much is coming from each? Is strike a variant of standard?

  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Usually it means that different attacks do a different damage type, for example thrust animations do pierce damage

    ...since when has it been pierce

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  • Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    If a weapon is like "standard/strike"... how much is coming from each? Is strike a variant of standard?

    It depends on the moveset, e.g. a common thing is for swords to usually do standard damage but do pierce on their thrust attacks.

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Apparently in Elden Ring straight blades tend to do standard damage and daggers and curved blades do slash

  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Spoiler about the Beast Clergyman
    I went to go give him a deathroot but he's hostile and terrifying and I don't need absolution, so is this because
    - related quests spoilers -
    Fia killed D?
    - double D spoiler -
    somebody named D the etc. shows up on my map in Nekron, and right before the gargoyle boss is a person who doesn't really talk, is that D?
    It's not D, but there's a relation.
    Do you have D's armor?

    I do!
    should I bring it to them? I'm gonna bring it to them.

  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    You should do that, yeah

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Keep in mind that standard damage is separate from slash/thrust/strike

    Lots of enemies seem vulnerable to each type, even bosses

    But swords don't usually do slash or thrust, just standard. Slash is for katanas and other fancy shmancy weapons

    I honestly find Elden Ring's fancy damage types to be so much nonsense, because outside of guess work on "Seems like it's made of hard stuff" or "very fleshy" there's little to no feedback or way to determine what's good vs what. It very much feels like a system that's there with little consideration of practical/useful gameplay benefits.

    And you know, upgrades frustrating, i don't think the game's equipment system/build system encourages you switching weapons like that. Elemental stuff also kinda suffers from this, but at least there's a bit more feedback like "Plant/Covered in oil things no like fire!" Or "It flipped out when i set it on fire", or electricty in water = good.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    it at least encourages swapping way more than the older games since you can hot swap infusions at bonfires instead of having to permanently invest a weapon down one elemental upgrade path

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    So apparently fire makes hand enemies really easy to deal with. And crystal darts confuse imps into attacking their buddies.

    I think I need to make some pots next time I play.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Madican wrote: »
    So apparently fire makes hand enemies really easy to deal with. And crystal darts confuse imps into attacking their buddies.

    I think I need to make some pots next time I play.

    Hands and giant plant enemies (the Miranda flowers) will flip out when set alight. Landsquirts (The werid barnacle fruit things) will explode if you poison them or cause them to Rot. Theres' a few enemies like that that have freak out animations, though i hadnt heard about the crystal dart one

    Edit: Googling indicates Crystal Darts apply a frenzy effect to all enemies, it just takes a little why to build up.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    it at least encourages swapping way more than the older games since you can hot swap infusions at bonfires instead of having to permanently invest a weapon down one elemental upgrade path

    There is that - but i still think you could get 99% of that if you simplified down to one, maybe two physical damage types and the elemental types. And, you know, clearer feedback on what works vs what doesnt.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    If a weapon is like "standard/strike"... how much is coming from each? Is strike a variant of standard?

    Usually when it is something like that, a mix of two different PHY weapon damage, it means that certain animations do X and certain do Y. i.e. a Katana can do stab damage with the 1H R2 button, but most everything else is slash.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Last night I was fighting the Rune Bear in that tiny cave in dragonbarrow and after hugging me, when it reared up for follow-up attack, it fell through the floor.

    Took what felt like a long time for it to die too. I thought it'd fallen to a lower level and was just lurking in the boss room or something as as bonus rune bear in a place I really didn't want to encounter one.
    But I guess it just takes a while to reach the center of the earth.

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  • NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    Last night I was fighting the Rune Bear in that tiny cave in dragonbarrow and after hugging me, when it reared up for follow-up attack, it fell through the floor.

    Took what felt like a long time for it to die too. I thought it'd fallen to a lower level and was just lurking in the boss room or something as as bonus rune bear in a place I really didn't want to encounter one.
    But I guess it just takes a while to reach the center of the earth.

    Was the wait hard to bear?

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Narbus wrote: »
    Last night I was fighting the Rune Bear in that tiny cave in dragonbarrow and after hugging me, when it reared up for follow-up attack, it fell through the floor.

    Took what felt like a long time for it to die too. I thought it'd fallen to a lower level and was just lurking in the boss room or something as as bonus rune bear in a place I really didn't want to encounter one.
    But I guess it just takes a while to reach the center of the earth.

    Was the wait hard to bear?

    Ursach a joker.

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  • MidniteMidnite Registered User regular
    Last night I wrecked Malenia by spamming the Blasphemous Blade's weapon art. 2200 a hit. She melted like butter in phase one, then spent all of phase 2 trying to kill my mimic while I unloaded frost pots at her and then finished her off with more Taker's Flames. It was hilarious, every second or third hit would knock her down, and between me and the mimic she spent like a third of the fight tanking the floor.

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Commander Niall is a real motherfucker

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Commander Niall is a real motherfucker

    Got him like two tries after this, magic is real

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Dying to Deathblight for the first time got a solid laugh out of me.

    Huh, what's this new status effect? Okay, whatever, doesn't seem to be doing damage.

    Impaled!
    .

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    Last night I was fighting the Rune Bear in that tiny cave in dragonbarrow and after hugging me, when it reared up for follow-up attack, it fell through the floor.

    Took what felt like a long time for it to die too. I thought it'd fallen to a lower level and was just lurking in the boss room or something as as bonus rune bear in a place I really didn't want to encounter one.
    But I guess it just takes a while to reach the center of the earth.

    I read somewhere that if you are endlessly falling the game will automatically kill you after 12 seconds. Maybe it applies to enemies as well?

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I'm not sure the timer applies to enemies as well, but I bet there's a safety net kill plane deep under the map

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  • HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Who is that in the pictures?

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Kate Bush

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  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Oh fuck that is amazing

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I have to confess a bit of pride in fighting a Mimic Tear and getting murdered the exact same way that I always murder people.

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    I have to imagine at least one magic user has eaten a Comet Azur to the face from the Mimic Tear as soon as the fight began

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