There's zero chance of it. There's absolutely no fucking way the courts are going to let them retroactively revoke the existing licenses Paizo et al. rely on.
That said, this should probably be taken to the tabletop thread.
face commanders for phyrexia commander decks leaked on foreign amazon, as always for these things please remember that translations may have imperfections and to exercise a certain amount of patience for the official cards
Ixhel, Descendent of Atraxa - 1WBG
Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Angel
Flying, vigilance, toxic 2
Corrupted — At the beginning of your end step, each opponent who has three or more poison counters exiles the top card of his or her library face down. You may look at and play those cards as long as they remain exiled, and you may spend mana as if you were any color to cast those spells. 2/5
Neyali, Sun's Vanguard 2RW
Legendary Creature - Human Rebel
Attacking tokens you control have double strike.
Every time one or more tokens you control attack a player, exile the top card from your library. During any turn you have attacked with a token you can play that card.
face commanders for phyrexia commander decks leaked on foreign amazon, as always for these things please remember that translations may have imperfections and to exercise a certain amount of patience for the official cards
Ixhel, Descendent of Atraxa - 1WBG
Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Angel
Flying, vigilance, toxic 2
Corrupted — At the beginning of your end step, each opponent who has three or more poison counters exiles the top card of his or her library face down. You may look at and play those cards as long as they remain exiled, and you may spend mana as if you were any color to cast those spells. 2/5
Neyali, Sun's Vanguard 2RW
Legendary Creature - Human Rebel
Attacking tokens you control have double strike.
Every time one or more tokens you control attack a player, exile the top card from your library. During any turn you have attacked with a token you can play that card.
3/3
Second one interests me, I've got a lot of fun white token cards just looking for home...
face commanders for phyrexia commander decks leaked on foreign amazon, as always for these things please remember that translations may have imperfections and to exercise a certain amount of patience for the official cards
Ixhel, Descendent of Atraxa - 1WBG
Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Angel
Flying, vigilance, toxic 2
Corrupted — At the beginning of your end step, each opponent who has three or more poison counters exiles the top card of his or her library face down. You may look at and play those cards as long as they remain exiled, and you may spend mana as if you were any color to cast those spells. 2/5
Neyali, Sun's Vanguard 2RW
Legendary Creature - Human Rebel
Attacking tokens you control have double strike.
Every time one or more tokens you control attack a player, exile the top card from your library. During any turn you have attacked with a token you can play that card.
3/3
Second one interests me, I've got a lot of fun white token cards just looking for home...
Okay, but does this include the draft token? Can you use that to attack a player?
In theory, I have no problem with the RC getting access to cards in order to make suggestions. Many cards in all products are targeted at Commander, so having the Commander people discuss those cards is pretty reasonable. And, practically speaking, this also meant we saw way, way fewer stupid takes about Lutri being a design mistake. We still saw some, but the fact the RC precommunicated it was going to get banned killed most of it.
That said, Sheldon is a terrible spokesperson and it continues here. In addition to his bizarre thoughts on what is and isn't acceptable, he also consistently fails to understand that as head of the RC, he can't publicly talk about his personal opinions as if they are separate from official RC directives. It's mind boggling that he posts articles saying "here are my thoughts on trends and potential bans in Commander. I haven't told the other RC members about this", and it's even more absurd that he'd try to get a card unprinted in Standard and then publicly throw his weight around when he didn't get his way. He manages to simultaneously think he's an important figure to WotC when he isn't while thinking he can be Just A Guy to the community he actually contrs.
That contradiction has been the commander rules committee's modus operandi for years. They want to act like it's just a casual format, that Sheldon and the RC are just making suggestions, and that any given playgroup can take or leave those suggestions as they see fit ("rule zero").
When rule zero works, it wasn't needed; when it's needed, it doesn't work. In other words, if I sit down at a kitchen table game with friends, we're naturally going to discuss what we think is fun and what isn't - I've been doing that since long before EDH existed.
For a long time, the best way to get the RC to ban a card was to sit down at the same table in person with an RC member and make sure that RC member personally witnessed that card being abused. Perhaps that's not the case anymore since pandemic but I'm not optimistic. That'd be fine if Commander were still just a silly casual format played by judges and friends of Armada Games. But it's not anymore, and hasn't been in over a decade.
The rules committee needs to set a baseline standard that can be adopted by pick-up groups, strangers, events, etc. with minimal argument. That's a serious responsibility with a format as popular and as lucrative (for WotC and for aftermarket singles merchants) as Commander.
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Following the earlier amazon leak, looks like about 34 rares have been leaked. Not going to transcribe them all here, it's right there on the reddit, you can seek it out if you want.
Wanderer safe
reprints of the scars of mirrodin fastlands
phyrexian arena
equipment mechanic keyword: For Mirrodin! (when it comes into play make a 2/2 red rebel and attach the equipment to it)
a 4 mana green crucible of worlds-like
kemba, melira, and thrun live
legendary juggernaut that turns all your creatures into juggernauts
The biggest changes I want to see in Commander are pretty simple.
Let me play Toxrill in decks that use black but not blue. And, obviously, ever other card with restrictions like that. Put in a rule that disables activated abilities of shit like that, I don't care, that's fine.
Let hybrid cards exist in decks that are only one of the two colors, with the same above caveat(s) if that feels necessary. Hybrid cards were designed to fit into either color, so the philosophy there to be able to play a Nobilis of War in my Mogis deck is still within design intent.
Count DFCs as the front half for deck building purposes. Elbrus shouldn't only be allowed in black decks, and Archangel Avacyn should be considered a mono white card.
All of these are rule zero issues, but I shouldn't have to have 8 extra cards on me to swap in and out based on people's answers when they're new to the playgroup or I'm new to a playgroup, and I've never encountered a person that thought any of these were unreasonable.
The biggest changes I want to see in Commander are pretty simple.
Let me play Toxrill in decks that use black but not blue. And, obviously, ever other card with restrictions like that. Put in a rule that disables activated abilities of shit like that, I don't care, that's fine.
Let hybrid cards exist in decks that are only one of the two colors, with the same above caveat(s) if that feels necessary. Hybrid cards were designed to fit into either color, so the philosophy there to be able to play a Nobilis of War in my Mogis deck is still within design intent.
Count DFCs as the front half for deck building purposes. Elbrus shouldn't only be allowed in black decks, and Archangel Avacyn should be considered a mono white card.
All of these are rule zero issues, but I shouldn't have to have 8 extra cards on me to swap in and out based on people's answers when they're new to the playgroup or I'm new to a playgroup, and I've never encountered a person that thought any of these were unreasonable.
I don't have a strong opinion either way, but a lot of players seem to agree with you. "You can only generate mana of a color that is in your commander's casting cost" is one of the more common house rules, and that handles all of the situations you're talking about. (And it reduces the viability of theft decks, which is arguably a good thing for newbies and casual players.)
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
The biggest changes I want to see in Commander are pretty simple.
Let me play Toxrill in decks that use black but not blue. And, obviously, ever other card with restrictions like that. Put in a rule that disables activated abilities of shit like that, I don't care, that's fine.
Let hybrid cards exist in decks that are only one of the two colors, with the same above caveat(s) if that feels necessary. Hybrid cards were designed to fit into either color, so the philosophy there to be able to play a Nobilis of War in my Mogis deck is still within design intent.
Count DFCs as the front half for deck building purposes. Elbrus shouldn't only be allowed in black decks, and Archangel Avacyn should be considered a mono white card.
All of these are rule zero issues, but I shouldn't have to have 8 extra cards on me to swap in and out based on people's answers when they're new to the playgroup or I'm new to a playgroup, and I've never encountered a person that thought any of these were unreasonable.
I don't have a strong opinion either way, but a lot of players seem to agree with you. "You can only generate mana of a color that is in your commander's casting cost" is one of the more common house rules, and that handles all of the situations you're talking about. (And it reduces the viability of theft decks, which is arguably a good thing for newbies and casual players.)
That used to be the actual rule. Also, it doesn't do anything to theft decks since theft effects usually say "you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color". When I had a Sen Triplets deck though I ran Celestial Dawn and Mycosynth Lattice to get around that old rule.
The biggest changes I want to see in Commander are pretty simple.
Let me play Toxrill in decks that use black but not blue. And, obviously, ever other card with restrictions like that. Put in a rule that disables activated abilities of shit like that, I don't care, that's fine.
Let hybrid cards exist in decks that are only one of the two colors, with the same above caveat(s) if that feels necessary. Hybrid cards were designed to fit into either color, so the philosophy there to be able to play a Nobilis of War in my Mogis deck is still within design intent.
Count DFCs as the front half for deck building purposes. Elbrus shouldn't only be allowed in black decks, and Archangel Avacyn should be considered a mono white card.
All of these are rule zero issues, but I shouldn't have to have 8 extra cards on me to swap in and out based on people's answers when they're new to the playgroup or I'm new to a playgroup, and I've never encountered a person that thought any of these were unreasonable.
I don't have a strong opinion either way, but a lot of players seem to agree with you. "You can only generate mana of a color that is in your commander's casting cost" is one of the more common house rules, and that handles all of the situations you're talking about. (And it reduces the viability of theft decks, which is arguably a good thing for newbies and casual players.)
That used to be the actual rule. Also, it doesn't do anything to theft decks since theft effects usually say "you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color". When I had a Sen Triplets deck though I ran Celestial Dawn and Mycosynth Lattice to get around that old rule.
There would be a lot more situations where the theft player wouldn't be able to activate abilities on the stolen card. I figured that was implied in my post, sorry. It's less important of a point, anyway, since we're talking about a subset of cases in a subset of decks.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
TIL that DFC cards can and do take their Commander color identity from the actual background color of the card. I was thinking that it only looked at the mana symbols in the casting cost and the rules text.
That's kinda... annoying.
I'd have said that Elbrus has no color identity because it has no colored mana symbols anywhere on either face and that Archangel Avacyn would be white because it only has white mana symbols on it. -.-
TIL that DFC cards can and do take their Commander color identity from the actual background color of the card. I was thinking that it only looked at the mana symbols in the casting cost and the rules text.
That's kinda... annoying.
I'd have said that Elbrus has no color identity because it has no colored mana symbols anywhere on either face and that Archangel Avacyn would be white because it only has white mana symbols on it. -.-
They have a color indicator. You don't have to look at the background color. It's the little dot next to the card type. See the red and green circle before "Planeswalker" here on Arlinn's back side.
This only appears on cards where at least one side lacks mana symbols in the casting cost.
That way you don't have to try to discern what the background frame is supposed to be.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
TIL that DFC cards can and do take their Commander color identity from the actual background color of the card. I was thinking that it only looked at the mana symbols in the casting cost and the rules text.
That's kinda... annoying.
I'd have said that Elbrus has no color identity because it has no colored mana symbols anywhere on either face and that Archangel Avacyn would be white because it only has white mana symbols on it. -.-
This is a big part of why I would like to see the changes I listed above. They are all much more intuitive than the current rules.
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The biggest changes I want to see in Commander are pretty simple.
Let me play Toxrill in decks that use black but not blue. And, obviously, ever other card with restrictions like that. Put in a rule that disables activated abilities of shit like that, I don't care, that's fine.
Let hybrid cards exist in decks that are only one of the two colors, with the same above caveat(s) if that feels necessary. Hybrid cards were designed to fit into either color, so the philosophy there to be able to play a Nobilis of War in my Mogis deck is still within design intent.
Count DFCs as the front half for deck building purposes. Elbrus shouldn't only be allowed in black decks, and Archangel Avacyn should be considered a mono white card.
All of these are rule zero issues, but I shouldn't have to have 8 extra cards on me to swap in and out based on people's answers when they're new to the playgroup or I'm new to a playgroup, and I've never encountered a person that thought any of these were unreasonable.
I don't have a strong opinion either way, but a lot of players seem to agree with you. "You can only generate mana of a color that is in your commander's casting cost" is one of the more common house rules, and that handles all of the situations you're talking about. (And it reduces the viability of theft decks, which is arguably a good thing for newbies and casual players.)
would this make Alesha, Who Smiles at Death a mono-red commander? If so, I do not care for that at all.
The biggest changes I want to see in Commander are pretty simple.
Let me play Toxrill in decks that use black but not blue. And, obviously, ever other card with restrictions like that. Put in a rule that disables activated abilities of shit like that, I don't care, that's fine.
Let hybrid cards exist in decks that are only one of the two colors, with the same above caveat(s) if that feels necessary. Hybrid cards were designed to fit into either color, so the philosophy there to be able to play a Nobilis of War in my Mogis deck is still within design intent.
Count DFCs as the front half for deck building purposes. Elbrus shouldn't only be allowed in black decks, and Archangel Avacyn should be considered a mono white card.
All of these are rule zero issues, but I shouldn't have to have 8 extra cards on me to swap in and out based on people's answers when they're new to the playgroup or I'm new to a playgroup, and I've never encountered a person that thought any of these were unreasonable.
I don't have a strong opinion either way, but a lot of players seem to agree with you. "You can only generate mana of a color that is in your commander's casting cost" is one of the more common house rules, and that handles all of the situations you're talking about. (And it reduces the viability of theft decks, which is arguably a good thing for newbies and casual players.)
would this make Alesha, Who Smiles at Death a mono-red commander? If so, I do not care for that at all.
Yes. Though we're admittedly conflating a lot of different things:
Whether hybrid mana counts as AND or OR. In other words, whether Blade Historian could appear in a mono-red deck
Whether a commander's text box is relevant to color identity. Eg, whether Alesha is a mono-R commander or a WBR commander
Whether a non-commander's card is relevant to color identity. Eg, whether Alesha could appear in a mono-red deck (not as a commander)
Whether the back face of a double-faced card is relevant to color identity. Eg, whether Valentin Dean of the Vein could appear in an Alesha deck.
We kinda throw these all together in a single topic based on our intuitions about how color identity should work, but they aren't necessarily a package deal.
It's all just spitballing anyway.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
The biggest changes I want to see in Commander are pretty simple.
Let me play Toxrill in decks that use black but not blue. And, obviously, ever other card with restrictions like that. Put in a rule that disables activated abilities of shit like that, I don't care, that's fine.
Let hybrid cards exist in decks that are only one of the two colors, with the same above caveat(s) if that feels necessary. Hybrid cards were designed to fit into either color, so the philosophy there to be able to play a Nobilis of War in my Mogis deck is still within design intent.
Count DFCs as the front half for deck building purposes. Elbrus shouldn't only be allowed in black decks, and Archangel Avacyn should be considered a mono white card.
All of these are rule zero issues, but I shouldn't have to have 8 extra cards on me to swap in and out based on people's answers when they're new to the playgroup or I'm new to a playgroup, and I've never encountered a person that thought any of these were unreasonable.
I don't have a strong opinion either way, but a lot of players seem to agree with you. "You can only generate mana of a color that is in your commander's casting cost" is one of the more common house rules, and that handles all of the situations you're talking about. (And it reduces the viability of theft decks, which is arguably a good thing for newbies and casual players.)
would this make Alesha, Who Smiles at Death a mono-red commander? If so, I do not care for that at all.
The color identity of your commander should stay as it is now. Like a Tawnos commander could be played monoblue, nobody is stopping anyone from doing that, but it does allow for W and B cards to be in it. As part of the 99, I think you should be able to play Tawnos in your deck even if your commander is, say, Temur. Not because it'd be good, but because it is intuitive. My Toxrill example above would be the specific bugbear I have with the rule. I don't give a fuck about his bad activated ability. I want to play the giant slug in my Shanid deck. I'll cross off the activated ability and eschew its existence entirely! There are a fucking lot of cards that would fall under this umbrella, and letting people play them would only be a positive for the format as a whole, I think.
TBH, I don't really want to see Toxrill more often.
And that's separate from the color identity discussion.
To be fair, it's not entirely his fault. 7 mana cost should balance him out, but there's such a proliferation of treasure tokens and cast-for-free/put-on-the-battlefield effects that mana cost doesn't provide much of a restriction anymore.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Well, the remaining "clean" PW got leaked, and I was wrong on one:
Tyvar, Wanderer and Kaya made it.
So, that's Jace, Vraska, Nissa, Nahiri and Lukka compleated and Tyvar, Kaya, Wanderer, Kaito and Koth safe. Was expecting Tyvar to not make it, but don't know much about him anyways.
I disagree that off-colored activated abilities should be allowed in the 99, with the exception that I think WotC should creatively template some stuff to avoid making random nonlegendary cards 5C.
I agree that hybrid should be AND for your commander's identity but an OR in the 99.
So Toxrill is a UB commander and UB in the 99. Manamorphose can be in any deck that contains E: green or red. Alesha is a RWB commander that can be in either RW or RB decks (the hybrid mana still means you need one of them). That'd be my preference.
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I ate an engineer
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Well, that’s two Decathlon tokens earned, went 7-0 on Jumpstart, and then 7-2 in the emblem standard with a Jund deck using Teething Wurmlet and Oni-Cult anvil to benefit from the free artifact tokens
I disagree that off-colored activated abilities should be allowed in the 99, with the exception that I think WotC should creatively template some stuff to avoid making random nonlegendary cards 5C.
I agree that hybrid should be AND for your commander's identity but an OR in the 99.
So Toxrill is a UB commander and UB in the 99. Manamorphose can be in any deck that contains blue or red. Alesha is a RWB commander that can be in either RW or RB decks (the hybrid mana still means you need one of them). That'd be my preference.
This isn't a take I've seen very often but I do very much like the cut of its jib.
I disagree that off-colored activated abilities should be allowed in the 99, with the exception that I think WotC should creatively template some stuff to avoid making random nonlegendary cards 5C.
I agree that hybrid should be AND for your commander's identity but an OR in the 99.
So Toxrill is a UB commander and UB in the 99. Manamorphose can be in any deck that contains blue or red. Alesha is a RWB commander that can be in either RW or RB decks (the hybrid mana still means you need one of them). That'd be my preference.
This isn't a take I've seen very often but I do very much like the cut of its jib.
I'm trying to square the circle on design intent vs. color identity, yeah. The design intent is that hybrid mana is permissive, but color identity makes it very restrictive instead, which I don't like, especially when high-pip cost cards like Blade Historian can't be played in monocolor decks where it'd be most useful.
While these sound like intuitive suggestions on paper (as in paper Magic), they'd probably be difficult to implement for digital. And I don't see them switching over to that model unless the majority of players do so themselves.
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Re: Leaks
While I am happy for P.Arena being added to Explorer/Pioneer, I would LOVE if somehow the Pyrexian's trying to connect the multiverse end up grabbing some random guys from other planes and into standard (again)
While I am happy for P.Arena being added to Explorer/Pioneer, I would LOVE if somehow the Pyrexian's trying to connect the multiverse end up grabbing some random guys from other planes and into standard (again)
While I am happy for P.Arena being added to Explorer/Pioneer, I would LOVE if somehow the Pyrexian's trying to connect the multiverse end up grabbing some random guys from other planes and into standard (again)
Say some merchants from Theros...
is today's monoblack lists not enough for you
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While I am happy for P.Arena being added to Explorer/Pioneer, I would LOVE if somehow the Pyrexian's trying to connect the multiverse end up grabbing some random guys from other planes and into standard (again)
Ohhh.. How would being compleated effect the ETB.. Mana from Phryrixian permanents? Say Arena and Obliterator.. Sheoldred ... Gix, and new Geth.. I can see it.
mirroring living weapon but for the rebels. It being able to leave a token behind that can actually survive on its own is flavorful in comparison to its counterpart
and I’m just generally interested in the possibility of making equipment that is playable but not like jitte pushed, so having it effectively enter equipped to something is a big power boost without having to make the equipment itself busted. It might not work out but it feels like they realized/remembered they had another knob they could turn besides equip cost
For those playing at home, the Compleat Compleation Roster
Red is Confirmed Compleated, Green is Confirmed Safe, and Yellow is Compleated by Process of Elimination (no leaked card yet)
No, I cannot draw the Mirrodin symbol, and yes that is what that is supposed to be.
I love the implication here that
Lukka's animal companion stays uncompleated independent of Lukka.
Sadly, I don't think Lukka brought the Ikoria tiger with him when he jumped planes.
But I think it would be awesome and a great character hook if Lukka died and, while dying, somehow transferred his spark to a nonhumanoid animal. That quadruped becomes a character in their own right.
If JoJo's Bizarre Adventure can have a Boston terrier with a Stand, MtG can stand to have a fox with a spark.
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That said, this should probably be taken to the tabletop thread.
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It can't, that's the point.
Legendary Creature - Phyrexian Angel
Flying, vigilance, toxic 2
Corrupted — At the beginning of your end step, each opponent who has three or more poison counters exiles the top card of his or her library face down. You may look at and play those cards as long as they remain exiled, and you may spend mana as if you were any color to cast those spells. 2/5
Neyali, Sun's Vanguard 2RW
Legendary Creature - Human Rebel
Attacking tokens you control have double strike.
Every time one or more tokens you control attack a player, exile the top card from your library. During any turn you have attacked with a token you can play that card.
3/3
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Second one interests me, I've got a lot of fun white token cards just looking for home...
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Okay, but does this include the draft token? Can you use that to attack a player?
That contradiction has been the commander rules committee's modus operandi for years. They want to act like it's just a casual format, that Sheldon and the RC are just making suggestions, and that any given playgroup can take or leave those suggestions as they see fit ("rule zero").
When rule zero works, it wasn't needed; when it's needed, it doesn't work. In other words, if I sit down at a kitchen table game with friends, we're naturally going to discuss what we think is fun and what isn't - I've been doing that since long before EDH existed.
For a long time, the best way to get the RC to ban a card was to sit down at the same table in person with an RC member and make sure that RC member personally witnessed that card being abused. Perhaps that's not the case anymore since pandemic but I'm not optimistic. That'd be fine if Commander were still just a silly casual format played by judges and friends of Armada Games. But it's not anymore, and hasn't been in over a decade.
The rules committee needs to set a baseline standard that can be adopted by pick-up groups, strangers, events, etc. with minimal argument. That's a serious responsibility with a format as popular and as lucrative (for WotC and for aftermarket singles merchants) as Commander.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
reprints of the scars of mirrodin fastlands
phyrexian arena
equipment mechanic keyword: For Mirrodin! (when it comes into play make a 2/2 red rebel and attach the equipment to it)
a 4 mana green crucible of worlds-like
kemba, melira, and thrun live
legendary juggernaut that turns all your creatures into juggernauts
Let me play Toxrill in decks that use black but not blue. And, obviously, ever other card with restrictions like that. Put in a rule that disables activated abilities of shit like that, I don't care, that's fine.
Let hybrid cards exist in decks that are only one of the two colors, with the same above caveat(s) if that feels necessary. Hybrid cards were designed to fit into either color, so the philosophy there to be able to play a Nobilis of War in my Mogis deck is still within design intent.
Count DFCs as the front half for deck building purposes. Elbrus shouldn't only be allowed in black decks, and Archangel Avacyn should be considered a mono white card.
All of these are rule zero issues, but I shouldn't have to have 8 extra cards on me to swap in and out based on people's answers when they're new to the playgroup or I'm new to a playgroup, and I've never encountered a person that thought any of these were unreasonable.
I don't have a strong opinion either way, but a lot of players seem to agree with you. "You can only generate mana of a color that is in your commander's casting cost" is one of the more common house rules, and that handles all of the situations you're talking about. (And it reduces the viability of theft decks, which is arguably a good thing for newbies and casual players.)
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
That used to be the actual rule. Also, it doesn't do anything to theft decks since theft effects usually say "you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color". When I had a Sen Triplets deck though I ran Celestial Dawn and Mycosynth Lattice to get around that old rule.
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There would be a lot more situations where the theft player wouldn't be able to activate abilities on the stolen card. I figured that was implied in my post, sorry. It's less important of a point, anyway, since we're talking about a subset of cases in a subset of decks.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
That's kinda... annoying.
I'd have said that Elbrus has no color identity because it has no colored mana symbols anywhere on either face and that Archangel Avacyn would be white because it only has white mana symbols on it. -.-
They have a color indicator. You don't have to look at the background color. It's the little dot next to the card type. See the red and green circle before "Planeswalker" here on Arlinn's back side.
This only appears on cards where at least one side lacks mana symbols in the casting cost.
That way you don't have to try to discern what the background frame is supposed to be.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
actually that's not even back in my day. I just think it's funny.
This is a big part of why I would like to see the changes I listed above. They are all much more intuitive than the current rules.
would this make Alesha, Who Smiles at Death a mono-red commander? If so, I do not care for that at all.
Yes. Though we're admittedly conflating a lot of different things:
Whether hybrid mana counts as AND or OR. In other words, whether Blade Historian could appear in a mono-red deck
Whether a commander's text box is relevant to color identity. Eg, whether Alesha is a mono-R commander or a WBR commander
Whether a non-commander's card is relevant to color identity. Eg, whether Alesha could appear in a mono-red deck (not as a commander)
Whether the back face of a double-faced card is relevant to color identity. Eg, whether Valentin Dean of the Vein could appear in an Alesha deck.
We kinda throw these all together in a single topic based on our intuitions about how color identity should work, but they aren't necessarily a package deal.
It's all just spitballing anyway.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
The color identity of your commander should stay as it is now. Like a Tawnos commander could be played monoblue, nobody is stopping anyone from doing that, but it does allow for W and B cards to be in it. As part of the 99, I think you should be able to play Tawnos in your deck even if your commander is, say, Temur. Not because it'd be good, but because it is intuitive. My Toxrill example above would be the specific bugbear I have with the rule. I don't give a fuck about his bad activated ability. I want to play the giant slug in my Shanid deck. I'll cross off the activated ability and eschew its existence entirely! There are a fucking lot of cards that would fall under this umbrella, and letting people play them would only be a positive for the format as a whole, I think.
And that's separate from the color identity discussion.
To be fair, it's not entirely his fault. 7 mana cost should balance him out, but there's such a proliferation of treasure tokens and cast-for-free/put-on-the-battlefield effects that mana cost doesn't provide much of a restriction anymore.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
So, that's Jace, Vraska, Nissa, Nahiri and Lukka compleated and Tyvar, Kaya, Wanderer, Kaito and Koth safe. Was expecting Tyvar to not make it, but don't know much about him anyways.
I agree that hybrid should be AND for your commander's identity but an OR in the 99.
So Toxrill is a UB commander and UB in the 99. Manamorphose can be in any deck that contains E: green or red. Alesha is a RWB commander that can be in either RW or RB decks (the hybrid mana still means you need one of them). That'd be my preference.
This isn't a take I've seen very often but I do very much like the cut of its jib.
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I'm trying to square the circle on design intent vs. color identity, yeah. The design intent is that hybrid mana is permissive, but color identity makes it very restrictive instead, which I don't like, especially when high-pip cost cards like Blade Historian can't be played in monocolor decks where it'd be most useful.
Say some merchants from Theros...
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Theros Beyond Death was only 3 years ago.
is today's monoblack lists not enough for you
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No.
Ohhh.. How would being compleated effect the ETB.. Mana from Phryrixian permanents? Say Arena and Obliterator.. Sheoldred ... Gix, and new Geth.. I can see it.
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No, I cannot draw the Mirrodin symbol, and yes that is what that is supposed to be.
and I’m just generally interested in the possibility of making equipment that is playable but not like jitte pushed, so having it effectively enter equipped to something is a big power boost without having to make the equipment itself busted. It might not work out but it feels like they realized/remembered they had another knob they could turn besides equip cost
I love the implication here that
Sadly, I don't think Lukka brought the Ikoria tiger with him when he jumped planes.
But I think it would be awesome and a great character hook if Lukka died and, while dying, somehow transferred his spark to a nonhumanoid animal. That quadruped becomes a character in their own right.
If JoJo's Bizarre Adventure can have a Boston terrier with a Stand, MtG can stand to have a fox with a spark.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.