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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Nova_C wrote: »
    there are so many resident evil movies oh my god. None of them were good but fuck, I guess people went to go see them.

    I genuinely like the first one, but I haven't watched any of the sequels.

    I thought Welcome to Raccoon City (the most recent one, the reboot) was really fun but critics seemed to hate it. It was dumb, yeah, but it was entertainingly dumb and well shot! It was a classic schlocky zombie movie exactly of the type resident evil was originally cribbed from.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    emnmnme wrote: »
    The new Jurassic Park movie people here say is meh has made $400 million worldwide.

    :s

    Quality and popularity are not strongly linked.

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  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Atomika wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Video game adaptations just seem to be cursed on some fundamental, possibly metaphysical level. It only took 28 years from the invention of the superhero to the first good superhero movie (Batman (1968), ofc), and arguably much fewer if you count the quasi-superhero movies of pulp characters like Zorro and Tarzan.

    Video games have been around for nearly 50 years now and the best anyone can say about a movie made from a game is that it's entertainingly bad, or has wild set design, or haha Dennis Hopper as Bowser lolwtf. I don't know if it's that filmmakers still just have a kind of fundamental contempt for/misunderstanding of the medium and what appeals to people about a specific game, or gamemakers aren't judicious about who they license their IP to, or what, but gosh you'd think even random chance would have spat up something passable by now.

    I think a lot of filmmakers or at least the studios hiring them assume audiences are primarily concerned about fidelity to material and a barrage of nods and Easter eggs, eschewing almost completely the fundamentals of competent storytelling.

    When you start from a point of pandering to a crowd you don’t understand with material you don’t really care about, it’s probably going to make for a bad product


    The one that baffles me is the Assassins Creed movie, as that had a perfect recipe for quality and still missed the mark completely.

    I think it's because people keeping trying to cram a 20+ hour narrative into a 2ish hour movie.

    Like imagine if the Lord of the Rings had been a single film. Would it be possible? In the sense that you could make something that vaguely resembles LOTR sure but you'd have to absolutely gut the story telling to get there.

    I keep hearing people say they should do a Mass Effect movie and it's like... no? The best thing about those games are the little moments and those aren't going to survive a screenplay treatment.

    I think prestige TV is probably a better route to try and go if someone is insistent on doing it but tbh I think telling new stories within a Mass Effect or Assassins Creed setting is the smarter play with the caveat that they'd have to actually respect the setting for it to work and so far it very much seems like they don't.

    Like comic book films were largely pretty terrible for a very long time and then it turned out when the people making them gave at least a few fucks about the source material they suddenly started getting much better.

    I think I agree with most of this except the idea that games are too big to make compelling narratives

    Even using your analogy, the LOTR movies pare out a ton from the books and still stick the landing in a huge way (though given, it’s 11 hours of content, which is more like five regular movies).

    I think you could make a trilogy of big-budget Mass Effect films telling the story from the games and still come away very happy, in the right hands.

    A key part of the LOTR analogy is that they shot all 3 from the start. They didn't film fellowship, then if that did well they'd film two towers and then RoTK 5 years after the first released.


    And in that vein, I think it would be hard to really get the first Mass Effect movie to work. Just giving even a barebones sketch of the Quarians/Turians/Asari/Krogan/Geth/Salarians etc would just be too big of a pill to get into the first movie. HBO/etc 8-10 episode lets you sorta work that stuff in little nuggets across the episodes.

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    Atomika wrote: »
    Honestly one of the hardest parts of making a Mass Effect movie would be trying to make characters like Kaiden, Ashley, Kasumi, Liara, and some of the others seem in any way vital and engaging

    For a series with about twenty party members, maybe a half dozen are enjoyable and necessary

    - Garrus
    - Mordin
    - Miranda
    - Wrex
    - Javik
    - Morinth
    - Jack
    - ED

    Femshep BFFs with Kasumi would make me put up with a LOT.

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  • navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Made some buggers to go with the streamers from yesterday:

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    The new Jurassic Park movie people here say is meh has made $400 million worldwide.

    :s

    Quality and popularity are not strongly linked.

    For instance, they are bringing the first Michael Bay Transformers movie back to theaters to celebrate its 15th anniversary.

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    To be fair, the first Transformers had some genuinely AWESOME scenes in it.

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  • GazingGazing In My Restless Dreams Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    The new Jurassic Park movie people here say is meh has made $400 million worldwide.

    :s

    Quality and popularity are not strongly linked.

    Exactly!

    Which is why my opinions are so unpopular!

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Honestly one of the hardest parts of making a Mass Effect movie would be trying to make characters like Kaiden, Ashley, Kasumi, Liara, and some of the others seem in any way vital and engaging

    For a series with about twenty party members, maybe a half dozen are enjoyable and necessary

    - Garrus
    - Mordin
    - Miranda
    - Wrex
    - Javik
    - Morinth
    - Jack
    - ED

    Femshep BFFs with Kasumi would make me put up with a LOT.
    it'll be john shepard, soldier and he'll romance ashley

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  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Athenor wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    The new Jurassic Park movie people here say is meh has made $400 million worldwide.

    :s

    Quality and popularity are not strongly linked.

    For instance, they are bringing the first Michael Bay Transformers movie back to theaters to celebrate its 15th anniversary.

    Ohhh Morbius Such A Funny Joke we all played on Sony Ha Ha Ha.


    SEE WHAT YOUVE ALL DONE, THE PRICE OF YOUR HUBRIS!

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  • GazingGazing In My Restless Dreams Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    The Detective Pikachu movie is probably the best video game movie in recent memory for me. It was solidly okay … not high art, but the story beats were fine, and it did the thing (what if Pokémon were REAL?) which is what everyone wanted.

    Only kinda sorta related, but watching a Star Wars thing again has me consistently telling myself “yeah it’s not high art or anything, but I mean it’s Star Wars so how could it be?”

    Anyway, I would greatly appreciate more high art in film.

    I blame society corporations! Caused by society!

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  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    edited April 10
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    Fun night, rode out to a cool local dive bar on the water, met a dude on the way and we pulled over to bullshit about bikes

    Got there and sidled up and there was a young Indian guy riding a Harley soft-tail with a nose ring hanging out with his girlfriend, spent the night drinking and storytelling with them

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited April 10
    Also I honestly have no idea how you adapt an AssCreed movie and not have it disappear up it’s own butthole and I say this as a fan of the series

    I don't think it needs to be that complicated. Just like, okay, our framing story hero is kidnapped by bad people and hooked to a machine, where the bad guys force him/her to relive the life of an ancestor in hopes of learning the location of a buried treasure. 85% of the movie follows the ancestor in a completely straightforward Batman/Zorro/Three Musketeers adventure as they swashbuckle their way through a photogenic locale, kiss a pretty lady, and swordfight an evil baron or duke or colonial governor or something - bonus points if this person is played by the same actor as the lead badguy scientist in the present! Connections! Then, with the badguys having learned the location of the lost Da Vinci painting or the Fountain of Youth or whateverthefuck, our framing story hero, their usefulness at an end, is about to be shot - but it turns out they've learned their ancestor's sick ninja moves and escape. They pull up the hood on their sweatshirt and disappear anonymously into a crowd as their voiceover intones "now I am the Assassin's Creed." The end, three stars.

    It's not genius but it would be 100% true to the vibe of the games and 100% more cromulent than almost any other game adaptation to date.

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  • GazingGazing In My Restless Dreams Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Admit it you can’t take anything I say seriously because you think I’m STUPIE, is that it chat???? You don’t even have to answer, it’s written all over your face. By admitting I’m right would be to admit you’re wrong but what if I told you there is another way? You see, by failing to admit to being wrong, you agree that I am right because that is what I said, but if you admit to being wrong then that means I was right along as you said, and at the beginning of the conversation, you will recall a deeply forgotten memory as you flashback to a scene of me being right all along and you being wrong all along and I’m right I’m right IM RIGHT

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  • GazingGazing In My Restless Dreams Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    My favorite mass effect character is joker because he bought an ape and then his ape got stolen

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited April 10
    neco is morbing

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Video game adaptations just seem to be cursed on some fundamental, possibly metaphysical level. It only took 28 years from the invention of the superhero to the first good superhero movie (Batman (1966), ofc), and arguably much fewer if you count the quasi-superhero movies of pulp characters like Zorro and Tarzan.

    Video games have been around for nearly 50 years now and the best anyone can say about a movie made from a game is that it's entertainingly bad, or has wild set design, or haha Dennis Hopper as Bowser lolwtf. I don't know if it's that filmmakers still just have a kind of fundamental contempt for/misunderstanding of the medium and what appeals to people about a specific game, or gamemakers aren't judicious about who they license their IP to, or what, but gosh you'd think even random chance would have spat up something passable by now.

    Well there was Edge of Tomorrow

    Which like, isn't a video game movie, but is also 100% the most video game movie

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Neco wrote: »
    Admit it you can’t take anything I say seriously because you think I’m STUPIE, is that it chat???? You don’t even have to answer, it’s written all over your face. By admitting I’m right would be to admit you’re wrong but what if I told you there is another way? You see, by failing to admit to being wrong, you agree that I am right because that is what I said, but if you admit to being wrong then that means I was right along as you said, and at the beginning of the conversation, you will recall a deeply forgotten memory as you flashback to a scene of me being right all along and you being wrong all along and I’m right I’m right IM RIGHT

    *swaddles Neco tightly in a blanket*

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  • GazingGazing In My Restless Dreams Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Sounds like Sonic was probably the best adaptation but I don’t care to watch it

    And I like Sonic games

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  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I am home and that's a good reason to have another glass of bourbon

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Kana wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Video game adaptations just seem to be cursed on some fundamental, possibly metaphysical level. It only took 28 years from the invention of the superhero to the first good superhero movie (Batman (1966), ofc), and arguably much fewer if you count the quasi-superhero movies of pulp characters like Zorro and Tarzan.

    Video games have been around for nearly 50 years now and the best anyone can say about a movie made from a game is that it's entertainingly bad, or has wild set design, or haha Dennis Hopper as Bowser lolwtf. I don't know if it's that filmmakers still just have a kind of fundamental contempt for/misunderstanding of the medium and what appeals to people about a specific game, or gamemakers aren't judicious about who they license their IP to, or what, but gosh you'd think even random chance would have spat up something passable by now.

    Well there was Edge of Tomorrow

    Which like, isn't a video game movie, but is also 100% the most video game movie

    I heard they're planning on making a Duke Nukem movie but why bother when Last Action Hero already exists?

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  • GazingGazing In My Restless Dreams Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Surely there must be an alternative to working

    Because I have to work tomorrow and I don’t wanna

    My life knows nothing but endless suffering

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    The Monster Hunter movie sounds like the result of a studio being more concerned about making it palatable to audiences that have never heard of the game than anything else. It's very common for adaptations to have some regular cop/soldier/hapless normal as a supposed audience surrogate and a vehicle for exposition. Often this character is boring as shit.

    General audiences are media literate and don't mind getting dropped in the middle of weird genre soup. Dune was successful!

    I haven't seen Monster Hunter, but it should have been a series of increasingly bonkers setpiece monster fights with absurd weapons from the game, interspersed with some simple political conflict at the hunter camp, a cute cat buddy CG palico for comic relief, and a final scene where the corrupt leader either gets eaten for his hubris or joins forces with the hero for a cool tag team fight against, I dunno, Fatalis the dragon covered in corpses?

    Let's be honest it should be a big dumb anime

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  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    navgoose wrote: »
    Made some buggers to go with the streamers from yesterday:

    jqx11576bai0.jpg

    dd31ein7wrd1.jpg

    🌈 Pride Fly!

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  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Orca wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Honestly one of the hardest parts of making a Mass Effect movie would be trying to make characters like Kaiden, Ashley, Kasumi, Liara, and some of the others seem in any way vital and engaging

    For a series with about twenty party members, maybe a half dozen are enjoyable and necessary

    - Garrus
    - Mordin
    - Miranda
    - Wrex
    - Javik
    - Morinth
    - Jack
    - ED

    It's also relationships built up over 120 hours of gameplay. You're going to have to work hard to make that not seem stupid in a 2 hour movie. I'm not sure if it's possible. Might be able to get away with it as a trilogy following the feel of the series (first establishes the setting and some of the characters, second focuses on the characters, third brings them both together in a great big bang). Still seems like a hard needle to thread. And the fans are rabid.

    If you remember, the first game is pretty thin on lore itself. It’s almost solely from Shepherd’s and the Alliance’s perspective.

    You can accomplish a lot in 2.5 hours if your script is good.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    elden ring patch dropping in a couple hours les gooooo

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    Man I wish I could post this One Piece page but its just NSFW enough

    but tl;dr One Piece this week has a bathhouse scene and....
    Yamato is a trans man bathing with the guys, while Kiku is a trans woman with the girls.

    Oda says Trans Rights motherfuckers

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  • GazingGazing In My Restless Dreams Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Atomika wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Honestly one of the hardest parts of making a Mass Effect movie would be trying to make characters like Kaiden, Ashley, Kasumi, Liara, and some of the others seem in any way vital and engaging

    For a series with about twenty party members, maybe a half dozen are enjoyable and necessary

    - Garrus
    - Mordin
    - Miranda
    - Wrex
    - Javik
    - Morinth
    - Jack
    - ED

    It's also relationships built up over 120 hours of gameplay. You're going to have to work hard to make that not seem stupid in a 2 hour movie. I'm not sure if it's possible. Might be able to get away with it as a trilogy following the feel of the series (first establishes the setting and some of the characters, second focuses on the characters, third brings them both together in a great big bang). Still seems like a hard needle to thread. And the fans are rabid.

    If you remember, the first game is pretty thin on lore itself. It’s almost solely from Shepherd’s and the Alliance’s perspective.

    You can accomplish a lot in 2.5 hours if your script is good.

    You heard the lady, get me Neil Breen stat!

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    edited April 10
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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    Atomika wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Honestly one of the hardest parts of making a Mass Effect movie would be trying to make characters like Kaiden, Ashley, Kasumi, Liara, and some of the others seem in any way vital and engaging

    For a series with about twenty party members, maybe a half dozen are enjoyable and necessary

    - Garrus
    - Mordin
    - Miranda
    - Wrex
    - Javik
    - Morinth
    - Jack
    - ED

    It's also relationships built up over 120 hours of gameplay. You're going to have to work hard to make that not seem stupid in a 2 hour movie. I'm not sure if it's possible. Might be able to get away with it as a trilogy following the feel of the series (first establishes the setting and some of the characters, second focuses on the characters, third brings them both together in a great big bang). Still seems like a hard needle to thread. And the fans are rabid.

    If you remember, the first game is pretty thin on lore itself. It’s almost solely from Shepherd’s and the Alliance’s perspective.

    You can accomplish a lot in 2.5 hours if your script is good.

    The first game is thin on lore? The second one is almost entirely about your crewmates, and 90% of the lore introduced is basically made irrelevant in the third one.

    I think the first one is the only one that can actually stand on its lore.

    EDIT: I just realized you were talking about the worldbuilding that IS done by the crew writing. So, yeah, the first one does all the heavy lifting establishing the history of the central conflict, but the second one does all the heavy lifting establishing the wider context of the story being told.

    So, you're right and I'm right, haha.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I finally watched the Starfield thing

    My life is no different. I felt entirely whelmed
    i was shocked at how little i cared

    if you're not into the space sim elements, i don't know what's there for you. usually bethesda is pretty good at making a sizzle reel, but this had nothing going on

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited April 10
    I didnt think I would be the one who would be like FUCK YEAH Starfield looked rad

    but here I am.



    also I messed myself at the Persona announcements, god bless cloud streaming

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    the character stat sheet and traits were actually the most interesting part of starfield's stuff, but i don't have any trust in bethesda to do anything well on the RPG side to make that a draw by itself

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    the kicker was when they hovered over their perk tree and picked out the one that was do 10/20/30/40% more damage with X and i was just like

    they have learned nothing in 10 years

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    Elendil wrote: »
    I finally watched the Starfield thing

    My life is no different. I felt entirely whelmed
    i was shocked at how little i cared

    if you're not into the space sim elements, i don't know what's there for you. usually bethesda is pretty good at making a sizzle reel, but this had nothing going on

    I sorta skimmed the video with the sound off for 30 seconds. The aesthetic seemed kinda neat. The combat looked terribly boring.

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