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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I could theoretically volunteer for the first responder team at work and probably get all those certs but I don't want to shave to wear a fire mask respirator lol.

    But I do work in manufacturing and it's not unheard of for people to get traumatic injuries.

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    do you guys count keeping melee weapons around as prepping?

    'cause I've got two baseball bats and also a piece of rebar just like, around. I found them while cleaning and was like, weeeeell, what if I need to hit someone with a baseball bat or a piece of rebar?

    we've also got so much canned food because my mom has a problem with coupons, and a bunch of water jugs. oh and toilet paper lol

    really though, if society were to collapse tomorrow, I'd probably stay at my house. I got 3 cats and all of them are neurotic I can't be dragging them around, fuck that.
    Not a great idea, you're just as legally liable with a bat as with a gun but you're less able to protect yourself than with a gun. If you're going to protect yourself with a weapon, don't handicap yourself. (Obviously there's more things to take into consideration duh, eg a toddler can't kill someone with a bat thats left around the house)

    That said, learning to protect yourself without any weapon at all is very useful. Guns, bats and other weapons (even improvised ones) escalate the seriousness of an encounter and the potential legal consequences for you.

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    My personal prepping:

    Long lasting food
    I don't have water supplies but I ought to
    Medical supplies
    Never ever buy made in china products. It's never worth buying cheap. It's a total scam. See: Vimes talking about rich vs poor shoes. Luckily, you don't have to actually be rich, just don't buy literal bottom tier items.
    Don't buy Australian products, they're all made in china.
    Avoid ordering things online or by mail. The breakdown of postal services is already happening. Mail gets lost or stolen regularly. Far better to buy locally where you can get better customer service.
    Buying locally in general.
    I'd like to get a generator. Power failure is not so much a problem in NZ though. But if you live in the US it's a must have, especially if you have food in freezers.
    The knowledge that, as a type 1 diabetic, I literally will die if insulin can't be delivered to New Zealand.

    (The last ones's killed any ambition I have for Robinson Crusoe style living 😢)

    Main focus is on longevity of food and items. Foods obviously important but items are to. If you can't buy new things because supply chains have broken down, what you do have needs to last. Oh, and repair things yourself.

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  • TayaTaya Registered User regular
    Oh hey I didn't know this thread was here. Back in January 2020 we had a huge blizzard. Luckily I didn't lose power, but all non-emergency vehicles had to stay off the road until the roads were cleared and grocery stores and convenient stores were required to close. When they opened like four or five days later, everyone in the city was lined up to buy stuff.

    Then when COVID was first being discussed I thought "I should have food and stuff in my house in case I get sick" and THEN the pandemic was declared and we all remember how scary it was just to go to the store, plus supply issues and hoarders made some items hard to find.

    Anyway long story short, I've kept a stockpile of non-perishable food and batteries and stuff just in case. I've also kept my freezer stocked with premade food (which is useless if the power goes out but useful if I get sick and don't have the energy to cook).

    I'd like to figure out how to can stuff myself.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Taya wrote: »
    Oh hey I didn't know this thread was here. Back in January 2020 we had a huge blizzard. Luckily I didn't lose power, but all non-emergency vehicles had to stay off the road until the roads were cleared and grocery stores and convenient stores were required to close. When they opened like four or five days later, everyone in the city was lined up to buy stuff.

    Then when COVID was first being discussed I thought "I should have food and stuff in my house in case I get sick" and THEN the pandemic was declared and we all remember how scary it was just to go to the store, plus supply issues and hoarders made some items hard to find.

    Anyway long story short, I've kept a stockpile of non-perishable food and batteries and stuff just in case. I've also kept my freezer stocked with premade food (which is useless if the power goes out but useful if I get sick and don't have the energy to cook).

    I'd like to figure out how to can stuff myself.

    Canning is pretty easy on a stove top these days, and i think you can do it in an instapot too.

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    We're gonna can some apple butter this year. I will let you know how it goes.

  • TefTef Registered User regular
    With the first aid stuff, does your local ambulance provider provide certified training? They would be my first place to check

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Slowly building up the stockpile. The goal for the long term storage is a month for 8 people (My parents, and two other couples who my place is the emergency evac space). Slowly getting there. Besides the #10 cans I have regular long shelf life grocery stuff that I'm shooting for 2 weeks worth, that I rotate out every 18 months. Things like pasta, vegetarian shepherd's pie, vegetarian hamburger helper, etc.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Near the end of the year I started revaluating what my bug-out bag would look like, in terms of a worst-case scenario.

    Like, I used to think about adding books on how to survive in nature & such.

    But then I watched The Omega Man with Charlton Heston, and, yeah, his character had the right idea.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4sPM8ugSWc

    Why would I ever choose to live in the mountains when I could fight for this?!?

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Near the end of the year I started revaluating what my bug-out bag would look like, in terms of a worst-case scenario.

    Like, I used to think about adding books on how to survive in nature & such.

    But then I watched The Omega Man with Charlton Heston, and, yeah, his character had the right idea.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4sPM8ugSWc

    Why would I ever choose to live in the mountains when I could fight for this?!?

    Makes complete sense.

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  • evilmrhenryevilmrhenry Registered User regular
    For apartment dwellers who don't want to screw around with this, I have a bug-out bag near the front door, in a gallon bag. Contents:
    Sleep mask
    Earplugs
    Micro-USB cable (for cell phone)
    Car adapter for USB
    Outlet adapter for USB
    Trash bag
    Hand towel
    Money ($1s and a $20)
    Piece of paper with family phone numbers, name, and driver's license number
    Toothbrush
    Floss
    Bandaids
    Mylar blankets
    Toilet paper (a partial roll, folded up)
    A "shopping list" of items I should grab from elsewhere in the house.

    What's important here is I don't have anything in there that really expires or goes bad, (I would not be able to manage rotating out supplies) and this doesn't take up enough space to matter.

  • TefTef Registered User regular
    That’s a good bag. I would throw some antiseptic and painkillers in there, as well as the means of starting a fire. I really like those little flint and steel kits you can get from any camping store

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I write my poems in the dirt with an oily rag
    Have to wear a gas mask just so I don't gag
    Got a SOCOM Scout and twenty extra mags
    And a couple severed heads in my bug out bag

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  • YellowhammerYellowhammer Registered User regular
    I think Pop-culture has really fed us the wrong messages about prepping. It's not really about having a firearm or Plate Carriers in preparation for TEOTWAWK, it's more about disruption of power-grids due to Climate Change and other severe weather.

    We've got a Camping Stove, enough propane for a week, Case of water, pack of cards, and this tub liner. We keep the pantry stocked with some dried beans and rice, and a few cans of Spam (Don't knock it, it has it's own key). I also got a solar charger to charge phones and a few power banks. I've toyed with the idea of a generator, but truth be told, I don't have the space to secure it for the majority of the year and I don't want to have to worry about getting diesel or gas.

  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I'm honestly thinking about getting a little propane heater as well after the rolling blackouts last cold snap since our only fucking power company hasn't upgraded the power grid in like, 150 years.

    They aren't a thing we really deal with here but it's definitely a thing that can happen.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Jokerman wrote: »
    I think Pop-culture has really fed us the wrong messages about prepping. It's not really about having a firearm or Plate Carriers in preparation for TEOTWAWK, it's more about disruption of power-grids due to Climate Change and other severe weather.

    We've got a Camping Stove, enough propane for a week, Case of water, pack of cards, and this tub liner. We keep the pantry stocked with some dried beans and rice, and a few cans of Spam (Don't knock it, it has it's own key). I also got a solar charger to charge phones and a few power banks. I've toyed with the idea of a generator, but truth be told, I don't have the space to secure it for the majority of the year and I don't want to have to worry about getting diesel or gas.

    Dead on. For like 95% off prepping it should be “what natural and men made disasters do i face and am likely to face in the near future” And work from most likely to least.

    For example I'm way out in the country, and regularly lose power for days at a time in the winter due to snow/ice storms, so i make sure we can stay warm and cook food. Next up is being able to evacuate quickly in case of a wildfire, followed by power grid disruption in a general sense and earthquakes.

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  • YellowhammerYellowhammer Registered User regular
    Remember you rule of 3's,

    You can survive:
    3 hours without shelter in bad weather
    3 days without water
    3 weeks without food.


    A good tip if you're in a freezing situation is to pitch a tent inside your house. This adds a second level of insulation and makes it easier to trap in body warmth.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    I write my poems in the dirt with an oily rag
    Have to wear a gas mask just so I don't gag
    Got a SOCOM Scout and twenty extra mags
    And a couple severed heads in my bug out bag

    that's a terrible bug out bag what you gonna use a bunch of heads for

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    A good example of real life prepping. During the recent cold weather, people froze to death in their cars. They got stuck in traffic, their car heater shut down, and they froze. Having something warm in the car in case of such a situation could have saved their lives. You can't be prepared for everything, and preparing for unlikely events is potentially a waste of time, but if you are making the choice to go out in freezing weather you should never assume that everything will be fine. You can't assume your car will protect you.

  • TefTef Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Hobnail wrote: »
    I write my poems in the dirt with an oily rag
    Have to wear a gas mask just so I don't gag
    Got a SOCOM Scout and twenty extra mags
    And a couple severed heads in my bug out bag

    that's a terrible bug out bag what you gonna use a bunch of heads for

    Trading with Brugnor The Head Collector for more guzzoline, of course. What did you think they were for?

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Read this thread title as "[pooping] farting a turbulent wind" just now

    A title that would give me far less anxiety

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    That’s interesting re: rattlers. In Australia, the priority is first and foremost the safe relocation of snakes. In a previous life I got certified in snake capture and handling. It’s surprisingly easy to do. Get your big crook and a dark coloured or black bag. 9/10 times, when the bag is down the snake will just dart in there because it looks a lot calmer than dealing with the big excited ape, waving a stick around at you

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    I've been trying to find one for a while in this area, and the local DSA here is doing a Stop the Bleed course in a couple weeks. Finally going to get to go.

    Not sure how my brain's inability to deal with blood would do in a real disaster, but I should at least teach myself something.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited January 2023
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    I've been trying to find one for a while in this area, and the local DSA here is doing a Stop the Bleed course in a couple weeks. Finally going to get to go.

    Not sure how my brain's inability to deal with blood would do in a real disaster, but I should at least teach myself something.

    Awesome. One of my goals this year is to take some first aid classes. You'll have to report back how it went after you go.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    It’s been a year! I got to apply my preparedness this week after going through a pretty bad ice storm here in the pnw.

    Overall not too bad. Still probably out of power until next week. Most everything we prepped has went smoothly. Definitely going to store more water for next time. You use water for freaking everything.

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  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    How did the first aid pan out?

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    How did the first aid pan out?

    Wasn’t able to make it happen. Had one class get canceled due to the instructor getting covid and then just couldn’t make schedules line up.

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  • Rear Admiral ChocoRear Admiral Choco I wanna be an owl, Jerry! Owl York CityRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could theoretically volunteer for the first responder team at work and probably get all those certs but I don't want to shave to wear a fire mask respirator lol.

    But I do work in manufacturing and it's not unheard of for people to get traumatic injuries.

    you might consider this

    Under-mask beard cover (Singh Thattha technique) for donning respirator masks in COVID-19 patient care
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    Tight-fitting filtering facepiece (FFP3) face masks are essential respiratory protective equipment during aerosol-generating procedures in the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) environment, and require a fit test to assess mask–face seal competency. Facial hair is considered to be an impediment for achieving a competent seal. We describe an under-mask beard cover called the Singh Thattha technique, which obtained a pass rate of 25/27 (92.6%) by qualitative and 5/5 (100%) by quantitative fit test in full-bearded individuals. Sturdier versions of FFP3 were more effective. For individuals for whom shaving is not possible, the Singh Thattha technique could offer an effective solution to safely don respirator masks.

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  • HydropoloHydropolo Registered User regular
    Assuming reasonable water access during said emergency, the three core components to a prep kit food wise will always imho be beans, rice and chicken/beef boullion. You can get by without the third. If properly taken care of, they will outlast anything but the end of the world and only require the ability to boil water.

  • DouglasDouglas PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    A recent storm left us without electricity for two days

    Thankfully we live close enough to my in-laws that we just went there

    But we definitely need to buy a gasoline powered generator as soon as we can afford one

  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    i figure in a survival situation i'd just steal my neighbors stuff and then go join a low-level bandit gang

  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    you'd loot my corpse and i'd be named "Raider Freaker" and i'd have 3 ammo and a fried rat

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited January 2024
    Think I might pick up one of these Anker Battery backup so I can run my CPAP when he power goes out.

    https://www.anker.com/products/a1761?variant=42755705208982&collections_portable-power-stations=undefined&Sort_by=Recommended

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I think if we move soon to a place more prone to power outages (I believe this apartment complex has a generator or generators that has covered us through a few bad storms but that wouldn't be an option if we move to a trailer again) I would need something similar eventually as I can't sleep without my CPAP at all

  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Ego makes a power station that uses the same batteries as their excellent electric mower and other tools. If you're already in their ecosystem at all, you can buy as many batteries as you need for your use case. As a bonus, since you're using the batteries to mow your lawn, as long as you rotate through them you don't have to worry about power cycling your station during seasons where you don't use it.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Ego makes a power station that uses the same batteries as their excellent electric mower and other tools. If you're already in their ecosystem at all, you can buy as many batteries as you need for your use case. As a bonus, since you're using the batteries to mow your lawn, as long as you rotate through them you don't have to worry about power cycling your station during seasons where you don't use it.

    I'll have to look into this

    If we get a new trailer we'll need a mower and I was thinking an electric one for the weight since I'm not in good shape still

  • YellowhammerYellowhammer Registered User regular
    Harbor freight also has some pretty good prices on these powerbanks. I kind of want to get one with the Solar panel for hurricane season, but i don't know where I would put it.

  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    Jokerman wrote: »
    Harbor freight also has some pretty good prices on these powerbanks. I kind of want to get one with the Solar panel for hurricane season, but i don't know where I would put it.

    somewhere the sun can see it, presumably.

  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    I bought an Eco Flow Delta 2, since that has the LiFePo chemistry that allows for way more charge cycles, but at the last minute I backed down from the 2kw to the 1kw bank. I still want to get a separate solar panel(my roof solar won't do shit during a power outage sadly) or two, and if I like the setup and it's not a huge pain taking the panels outside and back in, I may go in on another battery. So much of what I'd want to use just takes so much energy that the 1kw doesn't last long.

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