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[PC Build Thread] Don't wanna buy our $600 GPU? Well fine, we're not making any!
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It's not a bad bad card, it's just tone-deaf.
It doesn't move the needle much in a market that has been stagnated by stupid prices driven by coin miners and corporate greed. It also ignores most of the recent backlash at the future-proofing of 8GB of VRAM.
The trouble is that at that price point, it's competing against the 10GB 6700, and not much cheaper than the 12GB 6700XT, and does not fare well in comparison unless AV1 decoding is a Must Have for you.
Yep. Outside of the drivers, my biggest issue is that they're kinda long cards, and I'm running in an old case with a drive cage that limits card length.
From what I've read the drivers are... okay now?
But yeah, either you got 11.5" or you don't for the card.
I got real lucky with my 4070. It was like 1/4" too long, but I was able to completely remove the 5.25" HDD cage that was in the way. Really glad I went with a highly modular Fractal Design case 8 years ago.
What's your budget?
I haven't set one yet. I'm still in the options phase and intend to build out around the end of the year.
I'd say it's much too early to be looking, honestly. A lot can change in the next 6 months.
1440p is kind of broad and it depends on if you're looking for absolute maximum everything all the time, which can bring you up to 7950XTX/4080 levels, especially if you're looking for raytracing performance (RTX4080 is kind of in its own class here) and having future 1440p/60fps absolutely cranked in big name AAA titles.
The 7900 is a bit cheaper at $900, and the 4070ti is also about this area as well though with slightly worrying amounts of VRAM.
If you don't play AAA cranked titles and don't mind ticking down some visual settings, you can probably get by just fine with something like a 3070/3070ti or 3080, but with 8-10GB of VRAM you might be looking at a real bottleneck in the future.
Another thing to consider is your monitor, if you aren't replacing that. I essentially locked myself into Nvidia solely because I bought a G Sync monitor before there was any interoperability in the platforms. Newer Freesync monitors can support both AMD and Nvidia cards.
Best I can tell, my case has 279 mm available. Newegg says the A750 is 280 mm.
Whomp whomp.
The card itself is 268.6 mm, with the I/O bracket is 279.9
So that last few MM is actually the top of your bracket
What case do you have?
They robbed us blind, folks.
It's mostly that it's doing great in their multiple income streams.
Just global revenue figure, which (thankfully) is down YOY. No specifics on sales figures or anything for the cards that might shine further light.
Antec Three Hundred Illusion.
Ahem
This is why it is important to read the whole story instead of headlines.
Gaming revenue was down 38% year over year. That's the important bits for us in this thread.
But Nvidia is doing very well in demand for datacenter GPU compute products. Demand and profits in those segments soared.
Shit my 3060ti can do things that would have been witchcraft even five years ago.
[Edit] And someone tell me I'm stupid and/or crazy for considering a 7900xt or 4070 level card when I already have a 6700xt that performs wonderfully.
Very crudely Path tracing is a form of ray tracing.
If your revenue is down but your profit margin is up, then that's better. If your cost of goods sold is down but your profit-per-card is up, then that's good.
I'm guessing them enacting crypto-level gouging is making the people up there happy. Edit: Going through their Q1 2024 release, actual profits are up everywhere but they don't break down them by department past gross revenue.
So I mean, lower volume higher margin it is?
Path tracing is ray tracing, but a bit more accurate/true.
Modern ray traced games tend to pick and choose what surfaces will interact with light, and do all sorts of tricks to keep performance in line.
Path tracing, at least as implemented in cyberpunk, says "fuck that" and not only lets the raytraced lighting interact with everything, but they increase the "bounce" of light out many times over, meaning light bouncing off of a shiny red surface to the sidewalk, or under-cabinet lights hitting a white marble backsplash which in turn helps illuminate a room - will much more closely mimic the reality of how light does these things. All of this comes with a massive performance hit. On a 4090, this is more or less impossible to do without DLSS and frame generation.
And while you ABSOLUTELY can see the difference and the fact we can even do this is stunning, it does not make the game itself any better - regular balls-out raytracing on cyberpunk, what was formerly called psycho, is now attainable at whatever resolution you want to play at on the modern high end (7900 xtx / 4080 for 1440p) and halo cards (4090 for 4k really).
Meanwhile, the 7900xtx gets ~10fps at 1440p with path tracing.
I think, long term, this tech will see wide adoption, because it dramatically reduces dev time around lighting models. You can focus on lighting the same way a cinematographer or DP does, with less engineering and more artistry.
As it stands, it only exists to showcase how nice your rig is.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
I believe the mdi-music of most titles from ca. 1993 - 1997 is composed on a Roland synth HW. Doesn't surprise me, that it sounds the best on sound canvas. I use the Roland software synth, which is pretty close, without buying actual midi hardware. But not everybody wants to spend 70-100 (your-currency) on midi sound.
Back in the day, I had my Yamaha PSR keyboard connected via MIDI I/O cables to my sound blaster, and had a mixer on my desk to take the midi output and the sound blaster output and feed them to the speakers.
Doom, Sierra games, etc never sounded better.
I actually kind of miss the engineering / jank of that era.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
It doesn't seem like a heat issue from my temp tracking. Any ideas?
Jesus
Does the PC crash or can you still hear things?
That sounds like driver issues to me.
It also can be something not right with the GPU connection to the PCIe socket.
I would remove and reseat your GPU. And if you have a riser cable remove it and try the GPU directly.
When I experienced this before, a bad riser cable was the cause. Did exactly what you are describing.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
I went from an old Intel 4600k, 16 GB RAM, a 20" Vizio tv, w/GeForce 750TI to...
Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz: $197
MSI MAG B660 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard: $170
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB RAM: $65
Intel Arc A750 8 GB GPU: $189
Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor: $280(need to go back and talk to them about it. supposed to be $250 after the $30 instant savings)
DeepCool Zero Dark AK500 cpu cooler: $50
I was going to wait on the GPU but Microcenter gave me a deal since I was buying a CPU and once I replaced the GPU I had to replace the monitor cause new inputs, etc. PCPartPicker's prices were fairly close. Most things were a few dollars cheaper at MC except for the GPU/Monitor which were $40/$80 cheaper.
Using a Fractal R5 case with a 750w PSU. Need to get it up and running and then I can install the SSD I've been sitting on.
Is that with Gollum's Hair turned on or off, lol
The RT must be fairly minimal if the 7900 XTX is that close
Or the publisher is just shoveling this garbage out before the dev team can properly make the game.