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[The Lord of The Rings: The Rings of Power] Featuring Stupid Sexy Shelob
Anyway, Lord of the Rings! The Ur-Fantasy novel! The book is great! The Movies are great! How will the show be? Good? Bad? I don't know, but I'll have fun finding out! Also, freaking Glorfindel! He finally made the cut!
Personally, while I love the original books as unique and always available, I'm fine with new people coming along and dabbling in the margins. The Shadow of War games were trashy fun. And it's not like the films are perfect in that regard either (I hated wishy-washy, doubting Aragon moments for example in the PJ version).
I do appreciate that trailer shot of that big ol' pile of First Age Elf helmets piled like a mass grave because that lets you know anyone who survived the First Age has seen some things.
Bloods EndBlade of TyshallePunch dimensionRegistered Userregular
I think placing it in the second age was the best way to handle this
Tolkien wrote extensively about the first age, and it'd still unfilmable unless your budget is 2 billion dollars, the third age is well explored, but the second is basically untouched. We got a few big events, the fall of numenor, but so much is left unturned.
I'm all in
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daveNYCWhy universe hate Waspinator?Registered Userregular
I know Amazon is throwing a pile of money at this, but I'm still worried it might end up looking on the cheap side just because it's the sort of project that can burn as much money as you shovel at it.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Glorfindel is also a Platinum games character stuck in the settings' appendices, like Earendil, Turin, or Fingolfin and therefore the entire show will be a success or failure based on how cool he is.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
Probably outliers, though. I hear Galadriel is “woke” and Tolkien would be rolling in his grave over the “diversity.” It’s probably gonna suck. Let me inanely lecture you over the course of 35 screeching weblogs how much I can’t stand these adulterations to the source material, please don’t call me racist, that’s more offensive than racism warblgarbl blah blah look at me I matter let’s go Brandon
If Shelob is half sexy dame is Ungoliant the same, but bigger? Like, some real thic "step on me" energy.
I always took it as Ungoliant was just an evil spirit that thought spiders were a cool way to manifest. Ungoliant was the size of a stadium, so yeah that sounds terrifying.
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daveNYCWhy universe hate Waspinator?Registered Userregular
Probably outliers, though. I hear Galadriel is “woke” and Tolkien would be rolling in his grave over the “diversity.” It’s probably gonna suck. Let me inanely lecture you over the course of 35 screeching weblogs how much I can’t stand these adulterations to the source material, please don’t call me racist, that’s more offensive than racism warblgarbl blah blah look at me I matter let’s go Brandon
Can I at least complain about the clean-shaven dwarves?
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
Probably outliers, though. I hear Galadriel is “woke” and Tolkien would be rolling in his grave over the “diversity.” It’s probably gonna suck. Let me inanely lecture you over the course of 35 screeching weblogs how much I can’t stand these adulterations to the source material, please don’t call me racist, that’s more offensive than racism warblgarbl blah blah look at me I matter let’s go Brandon
Can I at least complain about the clean-shaven dwarves?
Probably outliers, though. I hear Galadriel is “woke” and Tolkien would be rolling in his grave over the “diversity.” It’s probably gonna suck. Let me inanely lecture you over the course of 35 screeching weblogs how much I can’t stand these adulterations to the source material, please don’t call me racist, that’s more offensive than racism warblgarbl blah blah look at me I matter let’s go Brandon
Can I at least complain about the clean-shaven dwarves?
No
For a very dubious definition of 'clean-shaven'.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
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CaptainBeyondI've been out walkingRegistered Userregular
I was reflecting on being aboard the Tolkien hype train again, ten years after the build up to The Hobbit, twenty years after the build up to Lord of the Rings. Ten years until the Silmarillion then?
Rings of Power is out on September 1st, in case anyone was visiting this thread and wondering. I think we'll cancel Disney + for a bit, since the only thing we're interested in is She Hulk there, and jump over to Prime for this and A League of Their Own.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
I wish A League of Their Own had better writing, it’s great in literally every other department
I've been kind of ignoring this show but since it's nearly out I finally watched the big new trailer from a couple days ago and I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked the look of it. Also I was completely unaware that younger Galadriel was a main character, but then I'm only vaguely familiar with the history of Middle Earth.
Everything in the first age is awesome, except for the apocalypse war that broke the continents.
The second age, is very ok. Except whoops we forgot about that one third rate lieutenant from the bad guys named, what was it, Sauron?
Third age is garbage trash. No one cares about that third age... Except the cast of Lord of the Rings!
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Hot shelob is canon.
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Lord_AsmodeusgoeticSobriquet:Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered Userregular
I don't know if this will be a good show or not, but I don't think I'll like it as a lord of the rings show
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
Hey hey, according to Peter Jackson the things that are most important to Tolkien are in the appendixes. Like the love story between Aragorn and Arwen.
I remember arguing with people online about the Jackson movies when they came out. Elves at Helm's Deep, funny Gimli, no Glorfindel. These got some people pretty steamed at the time!
I remember arguing with people online about the Jackson movies when they came out. Elves at Helm's Deep, funny Gimli, no Glorfindel. These got some people pretty steamed at the time!
I thought we agreed not to speak of that or my Tom Bombadil slashfic.
I remember arguing with people online about the Jackson movies when they came out. Elves at Helm's Deep, funny Gimli, no Glorfindel. These got some people pretty steamed at the time!
I thought we agreed not to speak of that or my Tom Bombadil slashfic.
So the first two episodes are out tomorrow in the US and the same time everywhere else (I think it's about 2am here). Dunno when the review embargo is up but it looks like 'not yet'.
I don't have Amazon Prime because I think Jeff Bezos is the Devil, but if reviews are good I might time a free trial near the end of the run to watch everything at once. And if reviews are bad I'll be a little sad but also chuckling to myself over Bezos taking an L. It's win-win. I either get some good Middle-Earth TV or Amazon takes a kicking.
Anyway I'm betting it'll be a solid B: better than the Hobbit movies but not approaching the LotR movies.
The show does not need to be amazing writing for me to enjoy it. It needs to be on par with the original story which has its own issues. From what I have seen on the negative reviews and being clickbait-ey it looks like I will enjoy this just fine. Guess we will know in a few days.
I'm... Tentatively sort of optimistic? I dunno. I think I'm on my standard view that I'd rather someone just make new IP rather than using old ones. Tolkien does hold a special, formative place in my heart and I'm going to judge it more harshly as a result.
Simultaneously, I would be 100% on board if they just made all the characters queer POC just to explode nerd heads.
What is this I don't even.
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Bloods EndBlade of TyshallePunch dimensionRegistered Userregular
2 things to keep in mind.
It's not gonna sound too Tolkien, because again he wrote very little about this era. We have some big events but very few little stories and actual narrative to go with it.
Everyone is gonna be EXTREME. Maybe not as much as the first age with feanor soloing Balrogs, but they are so much beyond the lions in winter of the elves and dwarves of the third age.
For me its the prequels all over again. Star Wars wasnt once in a lifetime great writing. It was a technical marvel but at its core it was just, as Lucas has said, a simple hero's journey. The prequels were fine. This will most likely be fine unless it just does a 180 from what is in the trailers.
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Bloods EndBlade of TyshallePunch dimensionRegistered Userregular
I've listened to the soundtrack so much I can tell the various races by themes now, so it is both good, simillar, and distinct to what music came before with out being just plagiarizing looking at you hot d opening.
I guess Bezos said at the screening "thank you for ignoring my notes" or something of that degree in reference to the showrunners. If true that is a positive note for the day heh.
I guess Bezos said at the screening "thank you for ignoring my notes" or something of that degree in reference to the showrunners. If true that is a positive note for the day heh.
It literally doesn't surprise me he had notes. Like I've said before it feels like this show exists with its budget because Bezos wanted it to.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I guess Bezos said at the screening "thank you for ignoring my notes" or something of that degree in reference to the showrunners. If true that is a positive note for the day heh.
"Why are the dragons hoarding an obscene wealth to the detriment of all races portrayed as bad?"
I guess Bezos said at the screening "thank you for ignoring my notes" or something of that degree in reference to the showrunners. If true that is a positive note for the day heh.
"Why are the dragons hoarding an obscene wealth to the detriment of all races portrayed as bad?"
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Tolkien wrote extensively about the first age, and it'd still unfilmable unless your budget is 2 billion dollars, the third age is well explored, but the second is basically untouched. We got a few big events, the fall of numenor, but so much is left unturned.
I'm all in
Well Neil Gaiman liked it
But who else? What does the genre press have to say?
Probably outliers, though. I hear Galadriel is “woke” and Tolkien would be rolling in his grave over the “diversity.” It’s probably gonna suck. Let me inanely lecture you over the course of 35 screeching weblogs how much I can’t stand these adulterations to the source material, please don’t call me racist, that’s more offensive than racism warblgarbl blah blah look at me I matter let’s go Brandon
Anyway Rings of Power yes
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I always took it as Ungoliant was just an evil spirit that thought spiders were a cool way to manifest. Ungoliant was the size of a stadium, so yeah that sounds terrifying.
Can I at least complain about the clean-shaven dwarves?
No
They got mutton-chops and the one lady dwarf we see in The Hobbit movies during the Dale market scene definitely has facial hair
For a very dubious definition of 'clean-shaven'.
Rings of Power is out on September 1st, in case anyone was visiting this thread and wondering. I think we'll cancel Disney + for a bit, since the only thing we're interested in is She Hulk there, and jump over to Prime for this and A League of Their Own.
The second age, is very ok. Except whoops we forgot about that one third rate lieutenant from the bad guys named, what was it, Sauron?
Third age is garbage trash. No one cares about that third age... Except the cast of Lord of the Rings!
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I thought we agreed not to speak of that or my Tom Bombadil slashfic.
Bombadilbo was too good a pairing name to pass up
See also: Glorfindelron, Balrogimli
I don't have Amazon Prime because I think Jeff Bezos is the Devil, but if reviews are good I might time a free trial near the end of the run to watch everything at once. And if reviews are bad I'll be a little sad but also chuckling to myself over Bezos taking an L. It's win-win. I either get some good Middle-Earth TV or Amazon takes a kicking.
Anyway I'm betting it'll be a solid B: better than the Hobbit movies but not approaching the LotR movies.
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I dunno, I like them.
The reviews are mostly positive, with caveats, and a handful of negative ones.
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Simultaneously, I would be 100% on board if they just made all the characters queer POC just to explode nerd heads.
It's not gonna sound too Tolkien, because again he wrote very little about this era. We have some big events but very few little stories and actual narrative to go with it.
Everyone is gonna be EXTREME. Maybe not as much as the first age with feanor soloing Balrogs, but they are so much beyond the lions in winter of the elves and dwarves of the third age.
It literally doesn't surprise me he had notes. Like I've said before it feels like this show exists with its budget because Bezos wanted it to.
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"Why are the dragons hoarding an obscene wealth to the detriment of all races portrayed as bad?"
Depends where you are. It’s out at the same time everywhere, which is different days in different parts of the world.
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