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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    oh, that's what Jackson's tweet was about

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
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    Gorbachev was alive?

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    Oh my god I remember that commercial

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    That commercial sure is something.

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
    I wonder if that’s the only American tv commercial ever made explicitly for an English speaking audience that’s in another language?

    It’s certainly rare if there are others

    I guess por que no los dos?

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I think I thought he was dead already

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    can reagan die a second time please, just once was too good for him

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    LabelLabel Registered User regular
    This must be posted, surely.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNl7u_ckbHU
    (slightly nsfw due to sexual themes, nothing actually explicit.)

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited August 2022
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    truly Gorby's greatest role...

    edit: damn it can't find that Jhon Oliver interview where Gorbachev threatened to nail him to a wall.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    The implications of this not just being in the semi-official Dead Bastard Watch thread are... interesting.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Fuck megathreads

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    That spot on Gorbachev’s head?

    HERPES

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    You put every dead guy in the Kissinger thread guess what, when Kissinger dies, that thread's ALREADY CLOSED

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    I have no awareness of if gorbachev deserves to be in the dead assholes thread or not

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    If it's a person you've heard of, chances are pretty good they are and/or were an asshole.

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    I wonder how many of these guys last thoughts are "I can't believe I didn't outlast Henry Kissinger that fuck"

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I literally only know two things about Gorbachev

    The thing where Reagan told him to tear down this wall and the above Simpsons episode

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    edited August 2022
    I have no awareness of if gorbachev deserves to be in the dead assholes thread or not

    I mean he's complicated, ultimately

    He was a reform minded socialist who wanted to try and turn around the slump of 80s USSR and increase political and economic freedoms in the country and try to bring an end to the cold war

    But also he was maligned from all sides for his positions, and he indirectly led to the dissolution of the Soviet Union, which has a whole host of other problems associated with it

    And, y'know, he's a major political figure, of course there's blood on his hands somewhere

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Damnit! Kissinger was RIGHT THERE!

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    TV writer/producer Javier Grillo-Marxuach has a story


    sometime in the late 90s, i went to a friend's bachelor party in las vegas...
    the party dinner was held at a restaurant called "red square" at the mandalay bay hotel.

    if you have not been there, red square is a restaurant-shaped parody of the collapse of the soviet union.

    in front of the restaurant stands a decapitated statue of lenin brought here from the dying remains of the evil empire.

    the inside is garishly decorated in golds and red, old issues of pravda for wallpaper, propaganda posters... they even have a drink called the "chernobyl" that is served with a sugar swizzle stick in the shape of a three eyed mutant fish.

    as the dinner came to an end i noticed a retinue of thick-necked, earpiece wearing bodyguards surrounding someone i could not see through the throng, so i got closer to find out who deserved that much security at a las vegas theme restaurant.

    it was mikhail gorbachev.

    i would have been interested in meeting the man, but that wasn't going to happen. after watching him go, the host told me he was in vegas to give a keynote address and that he liked the food at red square.

    the idea that the venerated-but-problematic leader of an empire that collapsed on his watch - partially because of his own awareness of its corruption, but also from being outspent by reagan in the arms race and becoming mired in a cruel and disastrous campaign in afghanistan -

    would, in his dotage, enjoy meals in a living mockery of his own failures as a leader is a tragic, comical, satirical notion i would expect from a terry southern screenplay or a preston sturges film... or maybe a rod serling production.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    I guess he’s stuffing Earth’s crust now.

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    TonkkaTonkka Some one in the club tonight Has stolen my ideas.Registered User regular
    I do like Pizza Hut.

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    Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2022
    Either the protections surrounding Kissinger's life force are being removed one by one by Death or there's some Highlander shit going on and he's actually gaining life force from this.

    Really hoping it's the former.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Gorbachev seems like one of the least problematic leaders from my lifetime

    I don’t think the USSR dissolved so much because of him, but because his reforms allowed folks in all the republics to finally follow through with what Lenin and Trotsky initially offered them at the very beginning of the revolution- a vote on independence. The final breakup was the inevitable and obvious outcome that the Bolsheviks saw would happen back then and thus used the Red Army to make sure those votes went their way, got super paranoid about it, and then spent the subsequent years leading up to WW2 purging millions of citizens over it (as well as all the purging over personal beefs and “sabotage” I.e. reporting truthful production numbers instead of straight up lying to meet quotas).

    And then spent the post-Stalin years swinging between de-Stalinization reform and then pulling back on it when people started highlighting the truth about the country’s “health”

    Gorbachev was a supremely gifted “diplomat” who was able to navigate through these 60s/70s swings between factions and push through the civil rights reforms that allowed people to see how corrupt and out of money they really were. Afghanistan and relative economic/military size vs the not-devastated by WW2 US also, of course.

    Then came the economic reforms in response, which actually caused the communists to revolt against him, with a failed coup that gave us the disaster that was Yeltsin

    Anyway all of this post will annoy some of you and all of you will be annoyed by some of this post but I’ll eat the shit cause it’s interesting and I want to chat about it and learn more

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Death of Stalin is a good movie.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i would probably land on gorbachev as a guy for whom, a lot of what is put at his feet, was sort of inevitable based on the road traveled prior to him, and he himself as a "coulda been worse, coulda been better" leader through it

    which you know is kind of an uninteresting way to describe someone but that's just kinda where i land on him

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I had no idea he was still alive

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    TefTef Registered User regular
    There’s gonna be a lot of real dogshit communism takes (more than usual). If you’re interested in actually understanding the forces behind the collapse of the USSR, I highly recommend Keeran & Kenny “Socialism Betrayed - Behind the Collapse of the Soviet Union” https://ia804603.us.archive.org/20/items/SocialismBetrayed/Socialism Betrayed.pdf

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Death of Stalin is a good movie.

    I happened to watch it not too long after Jan 6

    I found it very funny but also horrifying

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    kissinger that mummy fuck

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    kissinger that mummy fuck

    a bit more of a ghoul or possibly a lich, I'd say

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    A fuck yeah a second thread for celebrating when a piece of shit dies

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    The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    Yetslin has some legendary benders

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