Having to detour to solve a them
problem that should have been handled then
Which would cause suffering for him
So I thought it had to be done now
But due to policy, its was always going to be done later
Which means I should have been a lazy a** and gotten to my post sooner
I'm here. Came straight because I'm assuming they are going to tell me up front. Plus I'm not hungry so not stopping for breakfast was fine. Not touching anything until 8:30 though since they were always such sticklers for when I clocked in.
It's over. I'm free. There's relief, but a new form of stress in that I'm unemployed. Hopefully that changes soon. Driving home I got a call from a place I applied to yesterday. And tomorrow or the next day I should hear back from the interview I went to last Friday. Fingers crossed!
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
You'll find a lot of programming or programming-adjacent roles with Engineer in the title (or Architect). It's all programming, no licenses. Theoretically it should be a little different than a straight code monkey (a little more high level design, a little less actual code) but in reality it's really not.
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Goose!That's me, honeyShow me the way home, honeyRegistered Userregular
Also because I got paid this week my health care runs through the end of the year so that's extremely good
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
You'll find a lot of programming or programming-adjacent roles with Engineer in the title (or Architect). It's all programming, no licenses. Theoretically it should be a little different than a straight code monkey (a little more high level design, a little less actual code) but in reality it's really not.
hell the most common title is "software development engineer", so they can cover all the bases
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
If you are in the USA there is no regulations around the term engineer, so apply away.
This is only probably true in software fyi. The title “engineer” is definitely regulated for mechanical, chemical, electrical, civil, etc.
"Professional Engineer" is regulated, I don't think having a job title of engineer is.
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
If you are in the USA there is no regulations around the term engineer, so apply away.
This is only probably true in software fyi. The title “engineer” is definitely regulated for mechanical, chemical, electrical, civil, etc.
"Professional Engineer" is regulated, I don't think having a job title of engineer is.
This depends on the jurisdiction.
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I may get a job offer soon, but it will involve working directly for someone that I hate. I truly loathe this guy. He is a little barking chihuahua of a man. He is a thick-headed, over-confident boob.
This company also expects me to pay for my own cell phone, and they do not offer many of the benefits I get at my current job.
I'm just gonna throw a ridiculous salary number at the HR people and see if they bite.
I'm very torn on this. I don't want to do the work that they want me to do, but if they pay me enough it just might be worth it. My wife and I are expecting twins so our expenses are going to be quite a bit higher next year.
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minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
Also because I got paid this week my health care runs through the end of the year so that's extremely good
You did good work setting yourself up for the best chance of success possible in the situation. We’re proud of you, and confident you’re gonna have a much better job locked down before you have time to digest Thanksgiving dinner. Be sure to take at least a couple of days away from the job hunt to just relax and enjoy yourself so you don’t burn out.
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
If you are in the USA there is no regulations around the term engineer, so apply away.
This is only probably true in software fyi. The title “engineer” is definitely regulated for mechanical, chemical, electrical, civil, etc.
"Professional Engineer" is regulated, I don't think having a job title of engineer is.
In the state of Texas you are violating board rules if your job title is engineer and you don’t have a PE (with a few exceptions).
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
If you are in the USA there is no regulations around the term engineer, so apply away.
Oh nonono
I mean, yes, software engineering and computer engineers and the like, maybe. Depends on where you are. They are not professionally regulated, and are pretty much just words to throw around in many places. But not all places.
The term "engineer" unrelated to programming and computers is highly regulated, I think, everywhere in the US. I dunno, I'm not an an engineer. But I'm engineer-adjacent, and yeah. There are regulations for most types of engineering that can be rather strict.
But if you are applying to jobs with the term "engineer" in the description, they will likely put in the job description if licensure is actually needed. And if you apply and it's needed and you don't have it? They'll just either ghost you or say thanks-no-thanks and move on.
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
If you are in the USA there is no regulations around the term engineer, so apply away.
This is only probably true in software fyi. The title “engineer” is definitely regulated for mechanical, chemical, electrical, civil, etc.
"Professional Engineer" is regulated, I don't think having a job title of engineer is.
My husband had to put "Engineer in Training" on his paperwork and resume before he got his Professional Engineering license. He had an engineering degree, worked in the engineering field but could not use the term "Engineer" to describe his job. (He's in the Environmental Engineering field)
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
So the department recently-ish switched over to a Knowledge-Centered Service (KCS) methodology. What's this mean for us tier 1 school-based techs? It means any tickets we work have to have the appropriate knowledge article(s) linked to them.
Except, I work in a weird edge case school that's pushing a lot of boundaries and doing weird shit almost nobody else in the district is doing. So I see a lot of stuff that doesn't have an article for it. "No problem!" people with knowledge of KCS might say. "You can just attain the role that allows you to author articles to cover these cases. That's the entire POINT of KCS."
Well, except during the implementation it was decided there was no reason for my team to have that access. Because reasons. I don't know, it's really stupid and arbitrary, because the tier 1 field techs, who do exactly the same job with the exactly the same access and rights as my team, all can author new articles. The only difference between the two teams is the field techs are responsible for whole regions of multiple schools that haven't opted-in to my teams program and there's only 6 of field techs. My team each has 1-3 schools each and there's significantly more of us.
So all of this setup is to grouse about the fact that I just pinged my supervisor to create the 8th or 9th article I've needed created in the past week. And he will copy and paste what I've written into the article and tell me when it's done so I can link it to the ticket and close it out since the work is already done.
Well, I'm now approaching 20 or 25 articles authored by proxy. They have started talking about allowing my team to finally start earning the right to author articles ourselves, about a year after implementation.
To further illustrate how absurd this has been:
The red square is my team. About 35 people serving 60-70 schools in the district. That's the team that hasn't been trustworthy or whatever enough to author articles so has been blanket banned for a year from doing so.
The green square is the traveling techs. This team has been authoring articles since Day 1 of KCS implementation. About 10 people covering the 80-90 schools not served by my team. This team was actually in existence first and used to cover all the schools. The job descriptions and duties are basically identical except that each of my team embeds and spends all their time in 1-3 schools as in-house techs and the other team travels around all day every day based on their queue.
So at the beginning of December I have a meeting scheduled with my supervisor to discuss the process that I will begin going through to demonstrate competency to the KCS Council to finally earn the right to author and edit articles myself instead of constantly having to find somebody else to do it. Even though the metrics made available to me so far say I should be a KCS Coach myself.
edit: Everybody else on that org chart has been able to go through the process to author and etc since Day 1 as well. It was ONLY my team specifically excluded.
My battle against Health&Safety continues.
I got cited for not having a spill response plan and spill response training in my lab.
And not having a current copy of the Chemical hygiene plan (because they do not post it anywhere I have access to)
I just got an email copy of the Chemical hygiene plan and it says that Health&Safety is in charge of creating Spill response plans and training. So I thanked them for the email, and asked if they were going to provide the training.
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
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JedocIn the scupperswith the staggers and jagsRegistered Userregular
My Battle Against Health and Safety is my favorite Hunter S. Thompson book.
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
If you are in the USA there is no regulations around the term engineer, so apply away.
This is only probably true in software fyi. The title “engineer” is definitely regulated for mechanical, chemical, electrical, civil, etc.
"Professional Engineer" is regulated, I don't think having a job title of engineer is.
In the state of Texas you are violating board rules if your job title is engineer and you don’t have a PE (with a few exceptions).
My title was “process specialist” for years.
Those exceptions are massive, given I am an engineer in the state of Texas in a field where getting a PE is extremely uncommon and everybody is job titled as an engineer. It's basically only protected for people/companies that offer to put a PE's stamp on design work IIRC
I'm trying to decide between Mayo from scratch tonight, black being hummus from scratch tonight, or some sort of cake from scratch and because fuck this day, its already fucked me
15 days PTO* is not enough I feel like I'm drowning
"do not become addicted to water" except with time off
*3 weeks vacation would maybe be doable but it's 15 days to cover everything including sick time and seriously who the fuck thought that was a good idea they should be taken out back and left to die of thirst with a loaded gun just out of reach
This post made me realise that I've only taken 5 days of holiday this year, plus like 3 days sick when I had covid
And I have unlimited vacation days.
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
In software it's a made up term that means nothing, go ahead and apply. Usually the differential between "developer" and "engineer" (in this specific context) is engineers are expected to fix code to production standard, and may or may not get to develop their own projects, while developers are more on the prototyping end, so might not have to spend as much time doing unit testing and deployment or maintenance. But it very much depends on the company and how they divide or title people.
15 days PTO* is not enough I feel like I'm drowning
"do not become addicted to water" except with time off
*3 weeks vacation would maybe be doable but it's 15 days to cover everything including sick time and seriously who the fuck thought that was a good idea they should be taken out back and left to die of thirst with a loaded gun just out of reach
This post made me realise that I've only taken 5 days of holiday this year, plus like 3 days sick when I had covid
And I have unlimited vacation days.
... I'm doing this wrong.
My understanding is that this is really common when people get given unlimited days.
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
You'll find a lot of programming or programming-adjacent roles with Engineer in the title (or Architect). It's all programming, no licenses. Theoretically it should be a little different than a straight code monkey (a little more high level design, a little less actual code) but in reality it's really not.
See now this is actually confusing to me. Train engineers are operators of the machinery, so at least using that definition of engineer you'd think that a software engineer maintains existing code while a developer writes new code.
All the news about the Twitter layoffs we're about "software engineers" whose job it was to make sure everything didn't blow up.
Applying around to programming jobs and generally I've been applying to the ones with the word "developer' in them but should I consider "engineer" jobs? I know people here have mentioned in the past that "engineer" jobs are usually tightly regulated and one cannot be an "engineer" without proper licensing, is that true for programming type jobs?
You'll find a lot of programming or programming-adjacent roles with Engineer in the title (or Architect). It's all programming, no licenses. Theoretically it should be a little different than a straight code monkey (a little more high level design, a little less actual code) but in reality it's really not.
See now this is actually confusing to me. Train engineers are operators of the machinery, so at least using that definition of engineer you'd think that a software engineer maintains existing code while a developer writes new code.
All the news about the Twitter layoffs we're about "software engineers" whose job it was to make sure everything didn't blow up.
This is not too far off how a lot of tech companies will approach these titles, but I think the important thing to remember here is there are no rules about it. The terms will mean different things at different companies. Pay more attention to the job requirements than the title, when you're looking at applying.
15 days PTO* is not enough I feel like I'm drowning
"do not become addicted to water" except with time off
*3 weeks vacation would maybe be doable but it's 15 days to cover everything including sick time and seriously who the fuck thought that was a good idea they should be taken out back and left to die of thirst with a loaded gun just out of reach
This post made me realise that I've only taken 5 days of holiday this year, plus like 3 days sick when I had covid
And I have unlimited vacation days.
... I'm doing this wrong.
My understanding is that this is really common when people get given unlimited days.
Oh yeah it's definitely working as intended as far as the company is concerned.
(Though they give us a 6 week sabbatical every four years where the culture is that we go live in a yurt in siberia or something and not even look at our email, ie it's strongly encouraged to vanish off the face of the earth professionally speaking for those periods).
MrMonroepassed outon the floor nowRegistered Userregular
I won't pretend to know where the line is for how much notice you should give that you are canceling a meeting, but surely it is before I text you to find out where you are five minutes after the meeting has started.
I'd rather inspire my coworkers to have a f****** brain cell
If you figure that trick out, let me know. I want to watch the entire motivational consultant industry die off.
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minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
edited November 2022
We’re doing the end of the year shuffle where everyone on the team needs to use up their vacation days and no one wants to be the first to snag the really desirable days, so we all kind of put some days on the calendar and wait for everyone else to do start putting theirs down until we’ve all exhausted our days.
I thought I had used mine up, but it turns out I still had 6 left. Everyone else was all done, and I noticed the whole last week of the year was still wide open. So it looks like I’m clocking out on December 21st and not working again until January 3rd.
The one nice thing about our “use it or lose it” policy with vacation time is that our department head is extremely serious about everyone on the team using 100% of their vacation days every year.
minor incident on
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
Fucked up a 27 gallon batch of mead. Plugged the SG into the calculator to get my amount of honey needed to backsweeten and accidentally typed 1.0010 instead of 1.010 so I ended up adding an extra 7 pounds and now it's basically too sweet to use for its intended purpose.
Fucked up a 27 gallon batch of mead. Plugged the SG into the calculator to get my amount of honey needed to backsweeten and accidentally typed 1.0010 instead of 1.010 so I ended up adding an extra 7 pounds and now it's basically too sweet to use for its intended purpose.
Fucked up a 27 gallon batch of mead. Plugged the SG into the calculator to get my amount of honey needed to backsweeten and accidentally typed 1.0010 instead of 1.010 so I ended up adding an extra 7 pounds and now it's basically too sweet to use for its intended purpose.
Dessert mead?
I bet you could make some kind of honey spirit from that batch. A melliferous rum, if you will.
Fucked up a 27 gallon batch of mead. Plugged the SG into the calculator to get my amount of honey needed to backsweeten and accidentally typed 1.0010 instead of 1.010 so I ended up adding an extra 7 pounds and now it's basically too sweet to use for its intended purpose.
Dessert mead?
I bet you could make some kind of honey spirit from that batch. A melliferous rum, if you will.
It sounds like hes only a few quick cuts away from rum cannon candy
It'll probably just turn into a blend or session. I'm still mad about it, though. Should've double checked.
Also they won't let me ice distill our cider because of "laws".
Speaking of dessert meads I have a 10 gallon batch I gotta do something with. Gonna bentonite it now and check the SG and see where it's at. Gotta find some figs.
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problem that should have been handled then
Which would cause suffering for him
So I thought it had to be done now
But due to policy, its was always going to be done later
Which means I should have been a lazy a** and gotten to my post sooner
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
It's over. I'm free. There's relief, but a new form of stress in that I'm unemployed. Hopefully that changes soon. Driving home I got a call from a place I applied to yesterday. And tomorrow or the next day I should hear back from the interview I went to last Friday. Fingers crossed!
You'll find a lot of programming or programming-adjacent roles with Engineer in the title (or Architect). It's all programming, no licenses. Theoretically it should be a little different than a straight code monkey (a little more high level design, a little less actual code) but in reality it's really not.
hell the most common title is "software development engineer", so they can cover all the bases
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
"Professional Engineer" is regulated, I don't think having a job title of engineer is.
This depends on the jurisdiction.
This company also expects me to pay for my own cell phone, and they do not offer many of the benefits I get at my current job.
I'm just gonna throw a ridiculous salary number at the HR people and see if they bite.
I'm very torn on this. I don't want to do the work that they want me to do, but if they pay me enough it just might be worth it. My wife and I are expecting twins so our expenses are going to be quite a bit higher next year.
You did good work setting yourself up for the best chance of success possible in the situation. We’re proud of you, and confident you’re gonna have a much better job locked down before you have time to digest Thanksgiving dinner. Be sure to take at least a couple of days away from the job hunt to just relax and enjoy yourself so you don’t burn out.
That's great! You'll find employment again soon enough, and hopefully they will treat you well and respect you
In the state of Texas you are violating board rules if your job title is engineer and you don’t have a PE (with a few exceptions).
My title was “process specialist” for years.
Oh nonono
I mean, yes, software engineering and computer engineers and the like, maybe. Depends on where you are. They are not professionally regulated, and are pretty much just words to throw around in many places. But not all places.
The term "engineer" unrelated to programming and computers is highly regulated, I think, everywhere in the US. I dunno, I'm not an an engineer. But I'm engineer-adjacent, and yeah. There are regulations for most types of engineering that can be rather strict.
But if you are applying to jobs with the term "engineer" in the description, they will likely put in the job description if licensure is actually needed. And if you apply and it's needed and you don't have it? They'll just either ghost you or say thanks-no-thanks and move on.
My husband had to put "Engineer in Training" on his paperwork and resume before he got his Professional Engineering license. He had an engineering degree, worked in the engineering field but could not use the term "Engineer" to describe his job. (He's in the Environmental Engineering field)
Well, I'm now approaching 20 or 25 articles authored by proxy. They have started talking about allowing my team to finally start earning the right to author articles ourselves, about a year after implementation.
To further illustrate how absurd this has been:
The red square is my team. About 35 people serving 60-70 schools in the district. That's the team that hasn't been trustworthy or whatever enough to author articles so has been blanket banned for a year from doing so.
The green square is the traveling techs. This team has been authoring articles since Day 1 of KCS implementation. About 10 people covering the 80-90 schools not served by my team. This team was actually in existence first and used to cover all the schools. The job descriptions and duties are basically identical except that each of my team embeds and spends all their time in 1-3 schools as in-house techs and the other team travels around all day every day based on their queue.
So at the beginning of December I have a meeting scheduled with my supervisor to discuss the process that I will begin going through to demonstrate competency to the KCS Council to finally earn the right to author and edit articles myself instead of constantly having to find somebody else to do it. Even though the metrics made available to me so far say I should be a KCS Coach myself.
edit: Everybody else on that org chart has been able to go through the process to author and etc since Day 1 as well. It was ONLY my team specifically excluded.
:rotate:
I got cited for not having a spill response plan and spill response training in my lab.
And not having a current copy of the Chemical hygiene plan (because they do not post it anywhere I have access to)
I just got an email copy of the Chemical hygiene plan and it says that Health&Safety is in charge of creating Spill response plans and training. So I thanked them for the email, and asked if they were going to provide the training.
Those exceptions are massive, given I am an engineer in the state of Texas in a field where getting a PE is extremely uncommon and everybody is job titled as an engineer. It's basically only protected for people/companies that offer to put a PE's stamp on design work IIRC
* Not this one
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
(an awesome and inspirational one, btw)
Steam, Warframe: Megajoule
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
This post made me realise that I've only taken 5 days of holiday this year, plus like 3 days sick when I had covid
And I have unlimited vacation days.
... I'm doing this wrong.
In software it's a made up term that means nothing, go ahead and apply. Usually the differential between "developer" and "engineer" (in this specific context) is engineers are expected to fix code to production standard, and may or may not get to develop their own projects, while developers are more on the prototyping end, so might not have to spend as much time doing unit testing and deployment or maintenance. But it very much depends on the company and how they divide or title people.
My understanding is that this is really common when people get given unlimited days.
See now this is actually confusing to me. Train engineers are operators of the machinery, so at least using that definition of engineer you'd think that a software engineer maintains existing code while a developer writes new code.
All the news about the Twitter layoffs we're about "software engineers" whose job it was to make sure everything didn't blow up.
Earnestly considering this.
Ah, The Feast of Maximum Occupancy vacation
This is not too far off how a lot of tech companies will approach these titles, but I think the important thing to remember here is there are no rules about it. The terms will mean different things at different companies. Pay more attention to the job requirements than the title, when you're looking at applying.
Oh yeah it's definitely working as intended as far as the company is concerned.
(Though they give us a 6 week sabbatical every four years where the culture is that we go live in a yurt in siberia or something and not even look at our email, ie it's strongly encouraged to vanish off the face of the earth professionally speaking for those periods).
If you figure that trick out, let me know. I want to watch the entire motivational consultant industry die off.
I thought I had used mine up, but it turns out I still had 6 left. Everyone else was all done, and I noticed the whole last week of the year was still wide open. So it looks like I’m clocking out on December 21st and not working again until January 3rd.
The one nice thing about our “use it or lose it” policy with vacation time is that our department head is extremely serious about everyone on the team using 100% of their vacation days every year.
Dessert mead?
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The media isn't crazy about road rage and bad driving
Additionally it's been 4 hours since minion got on duty and keeps making bad choices, Resulting in him being on the wrong side of an if statement
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
I bet you could make some kind of honey spirit from that batch. A melliferous rum, if you will.
It sounds like hes only a few quick cuts away from rum cannon candy
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Also they won't let me ice distill our cider because of "laws".
Speaking of dessert meads I have a 10 gallon batch I gotta do something with. Gonna bentonite it now and check the SG and see where it's at. Gotta find some figs.