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BaidolBaidol I will hold him offEscape while you canRegistered User regular
edited February 2023 in Social Entropy++
I don't know how it first came across my radar, but at some point over the last few years I started reading DrowTales. The weird part about it is that it fantasy schtick should have put it right up my alley when it started in 2001, but its existence eluded me. I don't know what it would be like to follow a webcomic over two decades and I don't know if any webcomic starting these days can have that kind of stamina. Anyway, the comic is wrapping up the epilogue right now and I am surprisingly invested in these characters that I've only known for maybe 15% of their total existence. I'm not linking to it because there's what I expect is porn locked behind some paywalls and that might be edging close to some forums rules.

Post some web stories, talk about some web stories, and eat your breakfast before it gets cold.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Im withholding my feelings until we actually see how this scene ends in K6BD. Hard to say if the pay-off is worth it when it hasn't happened yet.

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    EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    So remember my melancholic "remember the good ol' days of webcomics" post from late last thread? Well, that's set me on the generally stupid course of well, rereading all of Sluggy Freelance. This was probably a mistake, but I'm like eight years in already, so probably too late to stop now. Plus, I'm genuinely curious how far I got when I stopped the first time around and if I can figure out what motivated me to stop (besides Homestuck starting about the same time.)

    Out of curiosity, are there podcasts dedicated to going over long-running webcomics (besides Homestuck, since you can't throw a rock without hitting a podcast about that,) or the history of webcomics in general?

    You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    I feel bad that Abbadon seems to have hit critical popularity level where the shithead fans more or less equal or slightly outnumber the non shithead fans.

    Like his big bad cosmic god fight brought in a lot of new fans that are now like "what is this bullshit where's the punchy punchy", nevermind some of the hottakes about what he's revealed about the universe/multiverse in K6BD.

    There has been some Rick and Morty levels of "you're probably not smart enough to understand what you're writing about" absolutely dogshit takes and I'm sure more than few of those shitheads made sure they sent them to Abbadon.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
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    Dumbing of Age

    You can do anything if it's For Science.

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    In today's Thistle Mistle Kistle, a proposal that will soon need to be confronted in a new fashion context.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2022
    Breaker of Infinities is 151 pages so far

    The Jadis section starts on page 121

    It just seems very silly to me to act like this has been some kind of interminable limbo when it's only about 25% as long as the Jagganoth fight before it, which was the most pedal-to-the-metal high-octane anime bullshit battle the comic has done so far, second only to the battle royale/solomon-white chain fight that immediately preceded it.

    Remember this sick fuckin page?

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    An archival reader could very easily get from this to the current page in only a sitting or two. I know that when you're following a webcomic as it's releasing it can make the time feel extremely decompressed and everything feels like it takes like 5 times longer, but this jadis stuff just hasn't been going on that long at all. People are belly-aching over like a grand total of two whole conversations, which incidentally have provided a bunch of long-withheld exposition about a character that's been a weird mystery since nearly the beginning of the story. The flip-side of the time compression thing is that it's been literal years since there's been any downtime for characters to just sit and talk; it last happened just after the above page back in 2020. So it just seems doofy to act like slowing things down for the first time in two years for a whopping couple dozen pages is some egregious failure of pacing

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    God that panel fucking rules, tho

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    I feel bad that Abbadon seems to have hit critical popularity level where the shithead fans more or less equal or slightly outnumber the non shithead fans.

    Like his big bad cosmic god fight brought in a lot of new fans that are now like "what is this bullshit where's the punchy punchy", nevermind some of the hottakes about what he's revealed about the universe/multiverse in K6BD.

    There has been some Rick and Morty levels of "you're probably not smart enough to understand what you're writing about" absolutely dogshit takes and I'm sure more than few of those shitheads made sure they sent them to Abbadon.

    I honestly doubt this, it's more likely just higher signal to noise because twitter exists and amplifies everything to elevenses

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Grrlpower unveiled the face beneath the mask

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
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    KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    edited September 2022
    Breaker of Infinities is 151 pages so far

    The Jadis section starts on page 121

    It just seems very silly to me to act like this has been some kind of interminable limbo when it's only about 25% as long as the Jagganoth fight before it, which was the most pedal-to-the-metal high-octane anime bullshit battle the comic has done so far, second only to the battle royale/solomon-white chain fight that immediately preceded it.

    Remember this sick fuckin page?

    ldtoklcpfx6j.jpg

    An archival reader could very easily get from this to the current page in only a sitting or two. I know that when you're following a webcomic as it's releasing it can make the time feel extremely decompressed and everything feels like it takes like 5 times longer, but this jadis stuff just hasn't been going on that long at all. People are belly-aching over like a grand total of two whole conversations, which incidentally have provided a bunch of long-withheld exposition about a character that's been a weird mystery since nearly the beginning of the story. The flip-side of the time compression thing is that it's been literal years since there's been any downtime for characters to just sit and talk; it last happened just after the above page back in 2020. So it just seems doofy to act like slowing things down for the first time in two years for a whopping couple dozen pages is some egregious failure of pacing

    And then Solomon turned out to be a jobber for Jagganoth.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    I love tourist unknown

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    The lack of like punching is not what's gotten on my nerves about this past several updates of K6BD, it's that there is not much interesting about having a person beg a character to believe that the world is entirely deterministic.

    I'm interested in the conceptual stuff, what it means for the universe the story takes place in and how it relates to the thesis of the story but the actual dialog doesn't grab me at all. It spends a lot of time saying something I think you can squeeze into like two sentences.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Breaker of Infinities is 151 pages so far

    The Jadis section starts on page 121

    It just seems very silly to me to act like this has been some kind of interminable limbo when it's only about 25% as long as the Jagganoth fight before it, which was the most pedal-to-the-metal high-octane anime bullshit battle the comic has done so far, second only to the battle royale/solomon-white chain fight that immediately preceded it.

    Remember this sick fuckin page?

    ldtoklcpfx6j.jpg

    An archival reader could very easily get from this to the current page in only a sitting or two. I know that when you're following a webcomic as it's releasing it can make the time feel extremely decompressed and everything feels like it takes like 5 times longer, but this jadis stuff just hasn't been going on that long at all. People are belly-aching over like a grand total of two whole conversations, which incidentally have provided a bunch of long-withheld exposition about a character that's been a weird mystery since nearly the beginning of the story. The flip-side of the time compression thing is that it's been literal years since there's been any downtime for characters to just sit and talk; it last happened just after the above page back in 2020. So it just seems doofy to act like slowing things down for the first time in two years for a whopping couple dozen pages is some egregious failure of pacing

    And then Solomon turned out to be a jobber for Jagganoth.

    I dunno if I'd call it jobbing for a character to lose to the dude that everybody is saying would definitely win in a fight easy.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I am seeing the current arc with Jadis as a battle, both against Jadis, and against depression and shock.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Breaker of Infinities is 151 pages so far

    The Jadis section starts on page 121

    It just seems very silly to me to act like this has been some kind of interminable limbo when it's only about 25% as long as the Jagganoth fight before it, which was the most pedal-to-the-metal high-octane anime bullshit battle the comic has done so far, second only to the battle royale/solomon-white chain fight that immediately preceded it.

    Remember this sick fuckin page?

    ldtoklcpfx6j.jpg

    An archival reader could very easily get from this to the current page in only a sitting or two. I know that when you're following a webcomic as it's releasing it can make the time feel extremely decompressed and everything feels like it takes like 5 times longer, but this jadis stuff just hasn't been going on that long at all. People are belly-aching over like a grand total of two whole conversations, which incidentally have provided a bunch of long-withheld exposition about a character that's been a weird mystery since nearly the beginning of the story. The flip-side of the time compression thing is that it's been literal years since there's been any downtime for characters to just sit and talk; it last happened just after the above page back in 2020. So it just seems doofy to act like slowing things down for the first time in two years for a whopping couple dozen pages is some egregious failure of pacing

    And then Solomon turned out to be a jobber for Jagganoth.

    I dunno if I'd call it jobbing for a character to lose to the dude that everybody is saying would definitely win in a fight easy.

    It's kinda funny that the "twist" of that fight is that it goes exactly how we are told it would go. There are no last minute power-up, surprising alliances, characters pushing past their limits....

    Or rather there are and they do NOTHING.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    I am seeing the current arc with Jadis as a battle, both against Jadis, and against depression and shock.

    As someone that's battled with depression all their life, I can say that it'd probably be easier to twist Jagganoth's dick than it is to win against depression.

    https://youtu.be/1E1VY4KOghI

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    KarozKaroz Registered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    I don't know how it first came across my radar, but at some point over the last few years I started reading DrowTales. The weird part about it is that it fantasy schtick should have put it right up my alley when it started in 2001, but its existence eluded me. I don't know what it would be like to follow a webcomic over two decades and I don't know if any webcomic starting these days can have that kind of stamina. Anyway, the comic is wrapping up the epilogue right now and I am surprisingly invested in these characters that I've only known for maybe 15% of their total existence. I'm not linking to it because there's what I expect is porn locked behind some paywalls and that might be edging close to some forums rules.

    Post some web stories, talk about some web stories, and eat your breakfast before it gets cold.

    The revamp Kern did helped a lot with more problematic parts of Drowtales and improved the art substantially that if you're looking for a big fantasy database to binge it's a pretty good one.

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    The lack of like punching is not what's gotten on my nerves about this past several updates of K6BD, it's that there is not much interesting about having a person beg a character to believe that the world is entirely deterministic.

    I'm interested in the conceptual stuff, what it means for the universe the story takes place in and how it relates to the thesis of the story but the actual dialog doesn't grab me at all. It spends a lot of time saying something I think you can squeeze into like two sentences.

    It is fairly common for the villain to express their viewpoint and try to convince the hero of it. Even if they're definitely supposed to be wrong, good villains will be at least somewhat convincing, otherwise they wouldn't believe it themselves.
    https://youtu.be/FrlymHW0qU8
    In book form, the conversation won't be long at all and it's not like they've repeated the same information over and over. They've simply had a discussion with back and forth.

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    OdinOdin Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Breaker of Infinities is 151 pages so far

    The Jadis section starts on page 121

    It just seems very silly to me to act like this has been some kind of interminable limbo when it's only about 25% as long as the Jagganoth fight before it, which was the most pedal-to-the-metal high-octane anime bullshit battle the comic has done so far, second only to the battle royale/solomon-white chain fight that immediately preceded it.

    Remember this sick fuckin page?

    ldtoklcpfx6j.jpg

    An archival reader could very easily get from this to the current page in only a sitting or two. I know that when you're following a webcomic as it's releasing it can make the time feel extremely decompressed and everything feels like it takes like 5 times longer, but this jadis stuff just hasn't been going on that long at all. People are belly-aching over like a grand total of two whole conversations, which incidentally have provided a bunch of long-withheld exposition about a character that's been a weird mystery since nearly the beginning of the story. The flip-side of the time compression thing is that it's been literal years since there's been any downtime for characters to just sit and talk; it last happened just after the above page back in 2020. So it just seems doofy to act like slowing things down for the first time in two years for a whopping couple dozen pages is some egregious failure of pacing

    And then Solomon turned out to be a jobber for Jagganoth.

    Speaking of, I did find it interesting that Jadis didn't say whether Salami Dave is dead or alive, just that he's missing.

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    NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    So remember my melancholic "remember the good ol' days of webcomics" post from late last thread? Well, that's set me on the generally stupid course of well, rereading all of Sluggy Freelance. This was probably a mistake, but I'm like eight years in already, so probably too late to stop now. Plus, I'm genuinely curious how far I got when I stopped the first time around and if I can figure out what motivated me to stop (besides Homestuck starting about the same time.)

    Out of curiosity, are there podcasts dedicated to going over long-running webcomics (besides Homestuck, since you can't throw a rock without hitting a podcast about that,) or the history of webcomics in general?

    I had a similar problem, Sluggy has a lot of non-canon side stories, filler arcs, and sporadic update schedule so if you hit a couple of those in a row it’s easy to lose interest. Going into it by reading the archives allows you to skip those easily though.

    The main arcs though tend to be okay.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Odin wrote: »
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Breaker of Infinities is 151 pages so far

    The Jadis section starts on page 121

    It just seems very silly to me to act like this has been some kind of interminable limbo when it's only about 25% as long as the Jagganoth fight before it, which was the most pedal-to-the-metal high-octane anime bullshit battle the comic has done so far, second only to the battle royale/solomon-white chain fight that immediately preceded it.

    Remember this sick fuckin page?

    ldtoklcpfx6j.jpg

    An archival reader could very easily get from this to the current page in only a sitting or two. I know that when you're following a webcomic as it's releasing it can make the time feel extremely decompressed and everything feels like it takes like 5 times longer, but this jadis stuff just hasn't been going on that long at all. People are belly-aching over like a grand total of two whole conversations, which incidentally have provided a bunch of long-withheld exposition about a character that's been a weird mystery since nearly the beginning of the story. The flip-side of the time compression thing is that it's been literal years since there's been any downtime for characters to just sit and talk; it last happened just after the above page back in 2020. So it just seems doofy to act like slowing things down for the first time in two years for a whopping couple dozen pages is some egregious failure of pacing

    And then Solomon turned out to be a jobber for Jagganoth.

    Speaking of, I did find it interesting that Jadis didn't say whether Salami Dave is dead or alive, just that he's missing.
    Solomon is busy.

    Nursing that L.

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Breaker of Infinities is 151 pages so far

    The Jadis section starts on page 121

    It just seems very silly to me to act like this has been some kind of interminable limbo when it's only about 25% as long as the Jagganoth fight before it, which was the most pedal-to-the-metal high-octane anime bullshit battle the comic has done so far, second only to the battle royale/solomon-white chain fight that immediately preceded it.

    Remember this sick fuckin page?

    ldtoklcpfx6j.jpg

    An archival reader could very easily get from this to the current page in only a sitting or two. I know that when you're following a webcomic as it's releasing it can make the time feel extremely decompressed and everything feels like it takes like 5 times longer, but this jadis stuff just hasn't been going on that long at all. People are belly-aching over like a grand total of two whole conversations, which incidentally have provided a bunch of long-withheld exposition about a character that's been a weird mystery since nearly the beginning of the story. The flip-side of the time compression thing is that it's been literal years since there's been any downtime for characters to just sit and talk; it last happened just after the above page back in 2020. So it just seems doofy to act like slowing things down for the first time in two years for a whopping couple dozen pages is some egregious failure of pacing

    And then Solomon turned out to be a jobber for Jagganoth.

    Frankly of all the Demiurges fighting ol' Jag he had the best showing.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    OdinOdin Registered User regular
    Odin wrote: »
    Krieghund wrote: »
    And then Solomon turned out to be a jobber for Jagganoth.

    Speaking of, I did find it interesting that Jadis didn't say whether Salami Dave is dead or alive, just that he's missing.

    Solomon is busy.

    Nursing that L.

    Turns out he's in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber

    Punching himself in the nuts to fortify the spirit

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Breaker of Infinities is 151 pages so far

    The Jadis section starts on page 121

    It just seems very silly to me to act like this has been some kind of interminable limbo when it's only about 25% as long as the Jagganoth fight before it, which was the most pedal-to-the-metal high-octane anime bullshit battle the comic has done so far, second only to the battle royale/solomon-white chain fight that immediately preceded it.

    Remember this sick fuckin page?

    ldtoklcpfx6j.jpg

    An archival reader could very easily get from this to the current page in only a sitting or two. I know that when you're following a webcomic as it's releasing it can make the time feel extremely decompressed and everything feels like it takes like 5 times longer, but this jadis stuff just hasn't been going on that long at all. People are belly-aching over like a grand total of two whole conversations, which incidentally have provided a bunch of long-withheld exposition about a character that's been a weird mystery since nearly the beginning of the story. The flip-side of the time compression thing is that it's been literal years since there's been any downtime for characters to just sit and talk; it last happened just after the above page back in 2020. So it just seems doofy to act like slowing things down for the first time in two years for a whopping couple dozen pages is some egregious failure of pacing

    And then Solomon turned out to be a jobber for Jagganoth.

    I dunno if I'd call it jobbing for a character to lose to the dude that everybody is saying would definitely win in a fight easy.

    It's kinda funny that the "twist" of that fight is that it goes exactly how we are told it would go. There are no last minute power-up, surprising alliances, characters pushing past their limits....

    Or rather there are and they do NOTHING.

    This is how every fight has gone in the comic. Every last minute power up, surprising alliance, pushing past limits has been cool in the moment and then ultimately led to absolutely zero success whatsoever. I can absolutely understand people tired of the "hey isn't this AWESOME!?" *ten pages later* "lol you thought that was awesome turns out it wasn't shit" loop.

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Abbadon has said this current arc is a direct response to his wife and kid nearly dying so

    id say give it the time it needs

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    HeadCreepsHeadCreeps NOW IS THE TIME FOR DRINKING! Registered User regular
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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    I would share unsounded if it were not for the titties and violence

    God bless that woman and her writing/artistic abilities

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    I have a theory, it is the Bigger Jadis theory.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    They were also right on the verge of actually killing or at least significantly hurting jag, until Gog undermined the effort because they're a shit

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Jadis is going to annoy Allison into being Royalty.

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