Yeah I know… but as much as that’s a great sentiment folks kinda got a lot on their plate right now, big war going on. Could just be a bunch of +10 to Not Dying keys. Bit of fire resistance maybe. No fall damage mod.
I think such a thing might play more of a part than people think. Quote the True King in his last ever appearance.
"Do you understand, Alice? In the end, even I could not fight alone, at the pinnacle of my mastery. Your struggle must be a terrible fire, which only grows as you pass it to others. Let it be fed beyond the boundaries of the feeble souls of so-called princes, Emperors, and "Heroes". Strength beyond Strength. Remember this. And Awaken your fate."
This may just be my interpretation but it sure sounds like the suggestion is that Allison must share her strength.
Yeah I know… but as much as that’s a great sentiment folks kinda got a lot on their plate right now, big war going on. Could just be a bunch of +10 to Not Dying keys. Bit of fire resistance maybe. No fall damage mod.
I think such a thing might play more of a part than people think. Quote the True King in his last ever appearance.
"Do you understand, Alice? In the end, even I could not fight alone, at the pinnacle of my mastery. Your struggle must be a terrible fire, which only grows as you pass it to others. Let it be fed beyond the boundaries of the feeble souls of so-called princes, Emperors, and "Heroes". Strength beyond Strength. Remember this. And Awaken your fate."
This may just be my interpretation but it sure sounds like the suggestion is that Allison must share her strength.
I just had a thought pop up that's Hank Hill as Allison going, "Well damnit, Zaid, if you need my help so bad, here" and then Hank shoves a piece of the key into Zaid's forehead
Bowser never killed anyone. Scar murdered a boy's father in front of him and framed him for it.
Well, he does live in a monarchy where kingship is determined by who can beat up people the best so the killing thing was perfectly fair.
If anything, we should see Scar as a merciful figure for not doing the traditional "murder the previous kings son" thing lions are known for.
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ShadowenSnores in the morningLoserdomRegistered Userregular
He wasn't merciful, he delegated, and his subordinates failed.
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Indie Winterdie KräheRudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered Userregular
violence in k6bd is literally divine
the first lie is the first act of violence, the self-suicide of YISUN
hell, this is very much exemplified in white chain's character development, stated plainly
from praying the gods to "forgive her for the violence she is about to employ" to "witnessing the violence she is about to employ"
it's also not about violence for violence's sake - that's incubus' deal. slaking a primal desire for the thrill of it without consideration of higher purpose
not too sure about the inclusion of the cotton gin in the list of labor saving technologies because that's got some context that should've been considered before putting it in the comic
not too sure about the inclusion of the cotton gin in the list of labor saving technologies because that's got some context that should've been considered before putting it in the comic
That's actually the point in including it
That card accelerated slavery while the other 4 cards play their part in accelerating war.
Desmond tutu said religion is like a knife, good if cutting bread, bad if cutting off your neighbor's arm.
Any tech has its place in atrocities and its all in the spirit of people who use it
the first lie is the first act of violence, the self-suicide of YISUN
hell, this is very much exemplified in white chain's character development, stated plainly
from praying the gods to "forgive her for the violence she is about to employ" to "witnessing the violence she is about to employ"
it's also not about violence for violence's sake - that's incubus' deal. slaking a primal desire for the thrill of it without consideration of higher purpose
Divinity is not really a good thing in K6BD. It's pretty clear that it's not just Jadis that thinks clinging to violence, victory, and control of your own fate is not a good way to live- Zoss says as much pretty much every time he shows up. Jagganoth has his own take on it, but he very clearly thinks that violence is fundamentally bad (though fun) and should only be used to end itself permanently. "Reach Heaven through Violence" is how you fuck up the entire world so badly that its stuck in a prison time loop hell - Zoss started the loop, and Jagganoth is just going to perpetuate that loop by doing what he does, hoping that somehow this time destroying everything will actually wipe the slate clean.
I think one of the main arguments K6BD presents is that it's a better idea to just be a good person to the people around you and get brunch with your hot demon girlfriend than to try to be some god conquering hero. It's largely an argument against focusing on individual solutions to systemic problems. You can't personally wear a mask so hard that it ends a pandemic, it takes a world working together to do that. That sort of thing. I don't think Jadis really makes this argument, or does it well - her solution appears to be to just only have breakfast and chill in a block of ice - but I think her perspective is a building block for the overall thesis.
the first lie is the first act of violence, the self-suicide of YISUN
hell, this is very much exemplified in white chain's character development, stated plainly
from praying the gods to "forgive her for the violence she is about to employ" to "witnessing the violence she is about to employ"
it's also not about violence for violence's sake - that's incubus' deal. slaking a primal desire for the thrill of it without consideration of higher purpose
Divinity is not really a good thing in K6BD. It's pretty clear that it's not just Jadis that thinks clinging to violence, victory, and control of your own fate is not a good way to live- Zoss says as much pretty much every time he shows up. Jagganoth has his own take on it, but he very clearly thinks that violence is fundamentally bad (though fun) and should only be used to end itself permanently. "Reach Heaven through Violence" is how you fuck up the entire world so badly that its stuck in a prison time loop hell - Zoss started the loop, and Jagganoth is just going to perpetuate that loop by doing what he does, hoping that somehow this time destroying everything will actually wipe the slate clean.
I think one of the main arguments K6BD presents is that it's a better idea to just be a good person to the people around you and get brunch with your hot demon girlfriend than to try to be some god conquering hero. It's largely an argument against focusing on individual solutions to systemic problems. You can't personally wear a mask so hard that it ends a pandemic, it takes a world working together to do that. That sort of thing. I don't think Jadis really makes this argument, or does it well - her solution appears to be to just only have breakfast and chill in a block of ice - but I think her perspective is a building block for the overall thesis.
I don't know if you're right, but I hope you are because I like your take on this the most.
I figure reach heaven through violence still works as a phrase if you are passing through violence, like a barefoot Buddha walking through a battlefield. Also while Ysun committed a kind of violence by splitting themselves into 77777 gods or whatever it was, it’s not the same as killing other people.
That said, um, big war. Big war big help needed please send weapons and food and not koans.
God, Moy is really going to kill him, isn't she? She really loves to troll the audience.
My "probably easy money" bet is that she's gonna cripple/coma Zak, and make Iris's arc be feeling bad for not immediately marrying him when he asked/ deciding to marry him after he breaks both his legs
My "why not, go for broke" bet is Moy killing off Zak completely and making a long game of Iris aggressively settling for Wilbur, setting up an eventual cat fight between her and Estelle for his sweaty, unearned affection
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
yes yes yes
Wilbur will feast on your desperation, depression and damnation
the harvest begins
the first lie is the first act of violence, the self-suicide of YISUN
hell, this is very much exemplified in white chain's character development, stated plainly
from praying the gods to "forgive her for the violence she is about to employ" to "witnessing the violence she is about to employ"
it's also not about violence for violence's sake - that's incubus' deal. slaking a primal desire for the thrill of it without consideration of higher purpose
Divinity is not really a good thing in K6BD. It's pretty clear that it's not just Jadis that thinks clinging to violence, victory, and control of your own fate is not a good way to live- Zoss says as much pretty much every time he shows up. Jagganoth has his own take on it, but he very clearly thinks that violence is fundamentally bad (though fun) and should only be used to end itself permanently. "Reach Heaven through Violence" is how you fuck up the entire world so badly that its stuck in a prison time loop hell - Zoss started the loop, and Jagganoth is just going to perpetuate that loop by doing what he does, hoping that somehow this time destroying everything will actually wipe the slate clean.
I think one of the main arguments K6BD presents is that it's a better idea to just be a good person to the people around you and get brunch with your hot demon girlfriend than to try to be some god conquering hero. It's largely an argument against focusing on individual solutions to systemic problems. You can't personally wear a mask so hard that it ends a pandemic, it takes a world working together to do that. That sort of thing. I don't think Jadis really makes this argument, or does it well - her solution appears to be to just only have breakfast and chill in a block of ice - but I think her perspective is a building block for the overall thesis.
This but with a caveat.
Occasionally, some people need to be punched in the face. Violence itself isn't bad, but unthinking violence is.
There's a Nelson Mandela quote about violence that I quite like that and I'm gonna paraphrase and butcher:
'I do not have a moral opposition to violence as a tool for justice. Violence should be a means of last resort, but the oppressed have a moral obligation to use all means available to end their oppression. With that being said, violence is seldom a useful tool for the oppressed against the oppressor. Oppressors are oppressors because they have the ability to inflict far more violence on those they would oppress than can be inflicted on them. If this is not the case you cannot have oppression to begin with.'
There's a Nelson Mandela quote about violence that I quite like that and I'm gonna paraphrase and butcher:
'I do not have a moral opposition to violence as a tool for justice. Violence should be a means of last resort, but the oppressed have a moral obligation to use all means available to end their oppression. With that being said, violence is seldom a useful tool for the oppressed against the oppressor. Oppressors are oppressors because they have the ability to inflict far more violence on those they would oppress than can be inflicted on them. If this is not the case you cannot have oppression to begin with.'
Ghandi said that violence is preferable to cowardice.
I have been repeating over and over again that he who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honour by non-violently facing death may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.
JedocIn the scupperswith the staggers and jagsRegistered Userregular
I don't think Jaggs means to be violent, it's just very hard to fill every available space in the universe with swords without some collateral cutting occurring.
that's actually a mistranslation from the japanese, it's really an analogy, "reach heaven like violence"
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
Reach Heaven through violence is "the ends justify the means" except all poetical about it
it's like that guy in Serenity. "I believe in something greater than myself. A better world, a world without sin... ...I’m not going to live there. There’s no place for me there. Any more than there is a place for you, Malcolm. I’m a monster. What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done."
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It might have! But that might also mean that it was impossible. That no alliance between all the demiurges could possibly hold up.
I don't think K6BD necessarily supports that phrase just because it was said at one point and is rad as hell.
I think such a thing might play more of a part than people think. Quote the True King in his last ever appearance.
"Do you understand, Alice? In the end, even I could not fight alone, at the pinnacle of my mastery. Your struggle must be a terrible fire, which only grows as you pass it to others. Let it be fed beyond the boundaries of the feeble souls of so-called princes, Emperors, and "Heroes". Strength beyond Strength. Remember this. And Awaken your fate."
This may just be my interpretation but it sure sounds like the suggestion is that Allison must share her strength.
I just had a thought pop up that's Hank Hill as Allison going, "Well damnit, Zaid, if you need my help so bad, here" and then Hank shoves a piece of the key into Zaid's forehead
Paranatural
If anything, we should see Scar as a merciful figure for not doing the traditional "murder the previous kings son" thing lions are known for.
the first lie is the first act of violence, the self-suicide of YISUN
hell, this is very much exemplified in white chain's character development, stated plainly
from praying the gods to "forgive her for the violence she is about to employ" to "witnessing the violence she is about to employ"
it's also not about violence for violence's sake - that's incubus' deal. slaking a primal desire for the thrill of it without consideration of higher purpose
Dumbing of Age
Latchkey Kingdom update
That's actually the point in including it
Desmond tutu said religion is like a knife, good if cutting bread, bad if cutting off your neighbor's arm.
Any tech has its place in atrocities and its all in the spirit of people who use it
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Sleepless Domain
Speaking of crutches, "this character is here to read sections of my character notes directly to the readers," is a terrible one. Stop it!
Oh No
Ah-choo!
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Divinity is not really a good thing in K6BD. It's pretty clear that it's not just Jadis that thinks clinging to violence, victory, and control of your own fate is not a good way to live- Zoss says as much pretty much every time he shows up. Jagganoth has his own take on it, but he very clearly thinks that violence is fundamentally bad (though fun) and should only be used to end itself permanently. "Reach Heaven through Violence" is how you fuck up the entire world so badly that its stuck in a prison time loop hell - Zoss started the loop, and Jagganoth is just going to perpetuate that loop by doing what he does, hoping that somehow this time destroying everything will actually wipe the slate clean.
I think one of the main arguments K6BD presents is that it's a better idea to just be a good person to the people around you and get brunch with your hot demon girlfriend than to try to be some god conquering hero. It's largely an argument against focusing on individual solutions to systemic problems. You can't personally wear a mask so hard that it ends a pandemic, it takes a world working together to do that. That sort of thing. I don't think Jadis really makes this argument, or does it well - her solution appears to be to just only have breakfast and chill in a block of ice - but I think her perspective is a building block for the overall thesis.
I don't know if you're right, but I hope you are because I like your take on this the most.
That said, um, big war. Big war big help needed please send weapons and food and not koans.
Steam, Warframe: Megajoule
SMBC
I should read a spy story
I should read a spy story that isn't time traveling lesbians
Any good spy story webcomics?
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
God, Moy is really going to kill him, isn't she? She really loves to troll the audience.
Steam, Warframe: Megajoule
Don't worry, there's a private resort downstream
My "probably easy money" bet is that she's gonna cripple/coma Zak, and make Iris's arc be feeling bad for not immediately marrying him when he asked/ deciding to marry him after he breaks both his legs
My "why not, go for broke" bet is Moy killing off Zak completely and making a long game of Iris aggressively settling for Wilbur, setting up an eventual cat fight between her and Estelle for his sweaty, unearned affection
Wilbur will feast on your desperation, depression and damnation
the harvest begins
This but with a caveat.
Occasionally, some people need to be punched in the face. Violence itself isn't bad, but unthinking violence is.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Yeah.
Kinda like Jagganoth going "well I remember doing all this shit countless times before might as well do it again!"
'I do not have a moral opposition to violence as a tool for justice. Violence should be a means of last resort, but the oppressed have a moral obligation to use all means available to end their oppression. With that being said, violence is seldom a useful tool for the oppressed against the oppressor. Oppressors are oppressors because they have the ability to inflict far more violence on those they would oppress than can be inflicted on them. If this is not the case you cannot have oppression to begin with.'
Ghandi said that violence is preferable to cowardice.
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Bold of you to assume that anyone other than God's Mary's favorite, Wilbur, gets a deal like that.
it's like that guy in Serenity. "I believe in something greater than myself. A better world, a world without sin... ...I’m not going to live there. There’s no place for me there. Any more than there is a place for you, Malcolm. I’m a monster. What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done."
Again, that's not quite it, the actual quote is "reach heaven-like violence".