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Buddy wants to build his first gaming PC, and Winter is Coming.

CantidoCantido Registered User regular
edited October 2022 in Help / Advice Forum
A distant friend of mine recently retired with pension and wants to build a work/gaming PC with his two sons for Christmas. He is considering VR as well. I already gave him my part preferences and referred him to my favorite gaming PC building/repair shop for second opinions.

I already warned him about setting an entertainment budget and will later discuss problematic things about the industry, such as the state of the Oculus Rift (I'll get into DLC later.)

I am putting together a list of "This is why you are a PC gamer" games list, while including things that thive on PC such as 4Xs. Then when the Steam sale happens and he sets his budget, I will compare this list to what is actually on sale, as well as his budget, to give him and his kids the most bang for his buck.

I have a blind spot. I dislike isometric WRPGs. I really should go back and finish Divinity II's tutorial and kill those damned slimes... Recommendations would be welcome.


Shovel Knight
Just Shapes and Beats
Sonic Mania
Tunic
Spiritfarer
Ori and the Blind Forest
Enter the Gungeon
Black Mesa
Half Life 2
Portal 1 & 2
Outer Wilds
Bastion
Enter the Gungeon
Stellaris
Civilization
Undertale
Freedom Planet
Everhood
Metal Slug
Actraiser
Megaman
Brigador
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Alien Isolation
Deep Rock Galactic
Dishonored
Elden Ring
Monaco
Slay the Spire
Hades
Homeworld Collection
Skyrim
Northgard
The Banner Saga
Disco Elysium
Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime
Observation
Inscryption
Freedom Planet
Total Warhammer
Spec Ops: The Line
Amid Evil
Subnautica

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Little Nightmares
The Eternal Castle
Deep Rock Galactic
Cuphead
Hollow Knight
Axiom Verge
Victoiria 3

I made a separate list for VR:
Project Wingman
Wanderer
Panoptic
Half Life Alyx
Beat Saber
Power Beats VR
Ragnarock

Any other recommendations?

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    Rear Admiral ChocoRear Admiral Choco I wanna be an owl, Jerry! Owl York CityRegistered User regular
    I've never been much of an isometric RPG guy but Expeditions: Rome is an excellent entry in that genre imo

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Terraria and Hollow Knight!

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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Is your friend (or their kids) a gamer at all? Tabletop? Console?

    My suggestions:
    X-Wing, TIE Fighter, X-Wing Alliance.
    All are available on GoG for 40 bucks total.

    Maybe the Shadowrun games?
    X-com games could be fun.

    Also be sure to point them to HumbleBundle. Lot of good deals there.

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    BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Is your friend (or their kids) a gamer at all? Tabletop? Console?

    <SNIP>

    Also be sure to point them to HumbleBundle. Lot of good deals there.

    Definitely the Humble Bundle thing.

    Also Epic wants to have their slice of the game platform market, so on their "Steam" they are giving away games for free- they do so in the form of one or two games per week, lots are Indy titles but there is also old or not so-new AAA titles. All that is needed to do is to log into Epic Games Launcher and "buy" the free stuff, they usually change what is free every Thursday.

    Now for recommendations not all ready suggested:

    Deus Ex series, all titles are good except Deus Ex II
    Limbo
    Inside
    Light Matter
    Lonely Mountains Downhill
    Far Cry series
    Grand Theft Auto V
    Torchlight series(A sort of Diablo, but not so dark and lots of charm)
    Elite Dangerous
    Microsoft Flight Simulator (There is perhaps a VR edition of this, but not sure)
    Halo The Master Chief Collection
    Deep Rock Galactic https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/08/how-deep-rock-galactics-dwarf-miners-have-helped-me-survive-the-pandemic/
    Forza series

    Also on Civilization from the original list, maybe starting with V is better than VI, as I think the later is to much micro management.

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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Mass Effect

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Is your friend (or their kids) a gamer at all? Tabletop? Console?

    <SNIP>

    Also be sure to point them to HumbleBundle. Lot of good deals there.

    Definitely the Humble Bundle thing.

    Also Epic wants to have their slice of the game platform market, so on their "Steam" they are giving away games for free- they do so in the form of one or two games per week, lots are Indy titles but there is also old or not so-new AAA titles. All that is needed to do is to log into Epic Games Launcher and "buy" the free stuff, they usually change what is free every Thursday.

    Now for recommendations not all ready suggested:

    Deus Ex series, all titles are good except Deus Ex II
    Limbo
    Inside
    Light Matter
    Lonely Mountains Downhill
    Far Cry series
    Grand Theft Auto V
    Torchlight series(A sort of Diablo, but not so dark and lots of charm)
    Elite Dangerous
    Microsoft Flight Simulator (There is perhaps a VR edition of this, but not sure)
    Halo The Master Chief Collection
    Deep Rock Galactic https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/08/how-deep-rock-galactics-dwarf-miners-have-helped-me-survive-the-pandemic/
    Forza series

    Also on Civilization from the original list, maybe starting with V is better than VI, as I think the later is to much micro management.

    I had Deep Rock Galactic written down but it didn't make it to the OP. Thanks. What a perfect and evergreen game.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    I just added The Eternal Castle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkWdaz6Ut2s

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    edited October 2022
    If he wants VR, he really should go for the Steam option. It's extremely good and also not owned by goddamn Facebook Meta.

    A couple of Survival / factory type games
    Valheim
    Satisfactory

    Play the meta
    The Stanley Parable

    And also play the different meta
    League of Legends
    Teamfight Tactics

    And the king of looter/shooters + co-op for days
    Borderlands (1 and 2 so cheap)
    Tiny Tina's Wonderlands

    And on VR
    *** FINAL APPROACH ***

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    JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    Mass Effect: Legendary Edition
    Stray
    American Truck Simulator & Euro Truck Simulator 2
    Crusader Kings 3
    Rimworld
    Cyberpunk 2077
    Monkey Island series
    Thief Gold & Thief 2
    Doom series
    Vampire Survivors
    F1 series (2021 would be my pick of the currently available ones)
    Star Wars Squadrons
    Shadowrun trilogy
    Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade

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    MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2022
    I see Bastion on there.

    I'd just replace that with Supergiant Games (all of them).

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    SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    Rimworld definitely, but really ROCK AND STONE

    That's an easy 2000 hours of play between the two for $60. Incredible.

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    BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    I play a lot more Risk of Rain 2 with my regular 4 person pc gaming group than space dwarfs, but they're both good, for sure.

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    DirtmuncherDirtmuncher Registered User regular
    VR
    Beatsaber
    Frontier: elite dangerous

    Minecraft

    Mmorpg
    Eve
    Guildwars 2
    The old Republic

    No man's sky

    It really depends on what he thinks is fun.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    X-Com 2
    War Thunder
    Civilization (4 and 5 are my favorites, but 6 is fine)

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    JazzJazz Registered User regular
    VR
    Beatsaber
    Frontier: elite dangerous

    Minecraft

    Mmorpg
    Eve
    Guildwars 2
    The old Republic

    No man's sky

    It really depends on what he thinks is fun.

    I love that you put Frontier in as a prefix. Someone who knows their history :smile:

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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Portal is reportedly getting a graphics overhaul soon.

    Battletech
    GRIS
    Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice (a decent pair of headphones is a must)

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    BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Portal is reportedly getting a graphics overhaul soon.

    Nvidia made a ray tracing update to it. Should be a free download for those that have the original game, not sure if it is Nvidia GPU only or not.

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    LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    edited January 2023
    AMD can run it, but it's a slideshow. Not sure about intel. Seems like you want at least nvidia 3000x series

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    BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    Lilnoobs wrote: »
    AMD can run it, but it's a slideshow. Not sure about intel. Seems like you want at least nvidia 3000x series

    I dug in a bit more and it seems you want at least a mid range 30x0 Nvidia series or one of the new 7x00 series AMD cards, it makes sense since it is really meant to show case RT and that is just with the new generation AMD has something there. It take RT Portal version is also an illustration of how RT is only eye candy in most cases, as the game play is unchanged.

    Currently one can get more performance with AMD. RT is only really for the fast Nvidia cards and the new AMD cards as it such a drain, even with cards that have RT hardware support.


    PS. Something else, if playing Civilization V one should definitively not miss the mods available for it. Like for example there is one which makes playing much less of a click fest, in that it makes information on for example city states and luxuries much easier available.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    An update on my friend: He held off on buying a PC in 2022. He will reconsider this spring. A good move, considering GPUs.

    He moved to a certain area: the exact area where I lived and two absolute ace PC gaming shops worked on my box. I happily told him he could buy the parts and delegate the build to either of them.

    Recommendations have been appreciated though.

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    ApogeeApogee Lancks In Every Game Ever Registered User regular
    The recent Turkey Relief Bundle would be a good way to get many games and help a good cause: https://www.humblebundle.com/games/turkiye-syria-earthquake-relief-bundle

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