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The Assassination of Twitter by the coward Elon Musk

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    so instead of selling Tesla stock to pay Twitter's bills, he's dumping money from SpaceX into Twitter

    also didn't SpaceX previously not have a marketing budget? And now they do, just to prop up Twitter's numbers.

    Everything's coming up Muskhouse!

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    This will be useful for people looking for an aerospace company to launch their satellites.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Musk doesn't know how to run a company without government subsidies, so he figured out how to launder taxpayer money to Twitter.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    Gotta funnel that government money into Twitter

    What the fuck does SpaceX need to advertise for?

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Gotta love when you force one of your companies to subsidize your failure in another company.

    That's gonna get some fucking investigations.

  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Gotta funnel that government money into Twitter

    What the fuck does SpaceX need to advertise for?

    Starlink.

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    well Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grummon etc always have ads in the DC Metro and that area, because... their one client is in DC.

    So he can advertise SpaceX to all the politicians on Twitter, right after mocking them for wearing masks and his service not being able to shut down their parody accounts.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Gotta love when you force one of your companies to subsidize your failure in another company.

    That's gonna get some fucking investigations.

    Is SpaceX publicly traded?

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Gotta love when you force one of your companies to subsidize your failure in another company.

    That's gonna get some fucking investigations.

    Is SpaceX publicly traded?

    SpaceX is privately owned, and Elon Musk owns 44% of it

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    SpaceX isn't public, but I gotta imagine the other people who have put in money to SpaceX are gonna be pissed as fuck about this.

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  • NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Gotta love when you force one of your companies to subsidize your failure in another company.

    That's gonna get some fucking investigations.

    You'd think so, but Disney cross-runs ads for their various products all the time. If it wasn't Musk clearly flailing at a failing company, this probably wouldn't get people to bat an eye.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Gotta love when you force one of your companies to subsidize your failure in another company.

    That's gonna get some fucking investigations.

    Since they're both privately held companies, not publically traded, I think the way it works is the SEC has no fingers in it, and it's just an issue for the other owners of SpaceX. That said, I think the US government might be one of those owners or at least have some say since SpaceX is so heavily subsidized by the government.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    The idea of SpaceX advertising is as weird and offputting as, like, the Catholic church or the FBI advertising. They don't have goods or services to sell! Advertising for firms like that is never going to be aboveboard and is just a corporate shell game, at best.

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  • Kristmas KthulhuKristmas Kthulhu Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Gotta funnel that government money into Twitter

    What the fuck does SpaceX need to advertise for?

    space exen deez nuts

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  • Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular


    Oh look, Elon finally found someone new willing to buy Twitter ad space

    Like artists on Twitter passing back and forth the same 50 bucks in commission money

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular


    Oh look, Elon finally found someone new willing to buy Twitter ad space

    Like artists on Twitter passing back and forth the same 50 bucks in commission money

    This is hilariously accurate.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    it's the candy selling episode of beavis and butthead, taken form

  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Gotta funnel that government money into Twitter

    What the fuck does SpaceX need to advertise for?

    Starlink.

    Compared to my local cable provider a comparable plan is $40 a month more with an advertised speed that is roughly 33% slower so terrible deal and that is before factoring in the $600 modem you are forced to buy.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    isn't starlink also like, at capacity and any more people just causes it to get slower and shittier

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I imagine it's like most ISPs, where they carefully sell you "up to" a certain level of service so that when they oversell the service and degrade it horribly from overcrowding the bandwidth their ass is covered, false advertising-wise

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Still relevant 9 goddamn years later

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  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    they're also selling the whole thing at a loss

    it's one of those deals where they're trying to capture the market ahead of time and then get profitable later when newer tech comes along to lower costs (this is what the starship project it supposed to be for, I'm not convinced it'll ever get there)

    or just jacking up prices when you get your monopoly, that's a classic

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    TNTrooper wrote: »
    -Loki- wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Gotta funnel that government money into Twitter

    What the fuck does SpaceX need to advertise for?

    Starlink.

    Compared to my local cable provider a comparable plan is $40 a month more with an advertised speed that is roughly 33% slower so terrible deal and that is before factoring in the $600 modem you are forced to buy.

    Yeah it’s terrible.

    It’s still a decent excuse of a product to funnel money between companies on with advertising.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    The entire idea of Starlink just makes no sense outside of pretty specific niche cases.

    It just just a recipe for tons of space garbage

    Edit: This is a pretty good overview of basic problems it has just from a user perspective:
    https://www.theverge.com/22435030/starlink-satellite-internet-spacex-review
    More restrictions like data caps have been added since then

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  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    Starlink makes sense for rural areas where high speed internet is non-existant which is a larger part of the country than it should be.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    The concept of space pollution is pretty niche as well, so it's not going to get a lot of traction one way or the other

    It is a means of antagonizing Russia and China with plausible deniability from the government

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    The thing about the rural areas is that not many people live there by definition, which is a problem for any service trying to be profitable despite a large operating cost

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  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    Just saw a Verge article about how Elon wants to turn Twitter into a payments system. I know that same detail was buzzing around here a few days ago.

    So he wants to make Paypal 2.0? No one else hanging around with a new idea for you to steal Musk?

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    The ceo of Sears had a similar idea back when I got my first job there. He wanted to transform Sears into the business of the future by taking it entirely digital, and creating a social media market place. It would be Facebook/Amazon, where all the hip youngsters would hang out in digital space and #humblebrag about the new 22" Craftsman T110 17.5 HP riding mower they bought. It was bold! It was innovative! It was controversial! It was gonna revolutionize the way people hung out and did business on The World Wide Web!



    Anyway Sears dead as fuck now.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    The ceo of Sears had a similar idea back when I got my first job there. He wanted to transform Sears into the business of the future by taking it entirely digital, and creating a social media market place. It would be Facebook/Amazon, where all the hip youngsters would hang out in digital space and #humblebrag about the new 22" Craftsman T110 17.5 HP riding mower they bought. It was bold! It was innovative! It was controversial! It was gonna revolutionize the way people hung out and did business on The World Wide Web!



    Anyway Sears dead as fuck now.

    Isn't most of that that the CEO literally looted the company?

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    The thing about the rural areas is that not many people live there by definition, which is a problem for any service trying to be profitable despite a large operating cost

    Just like everything else, the answer is it depends. There are a ton of people who don't have access to anything faster than 1Mbps DSL, a lot who are on just garbage regular satellite, and for them Starlink is an unequivocally good thing. It provides good (not perfect!) internet access at a price that is not terribly out of line with other ISPs. And depending on how many people in different locations can access it, long term it could be profitable.

    Part of the profitability seems to be accessories now, though. That $600 just gets you the dish and the router. If you need a longer cable you have to buy it from them because it's USB, not PoE. Have a bigger home that a single router won't cover? Gotta buy the Ethernet port separately, the unit doesn't have one. Again, it's not great, but for people who have no other option, it's the best of those options.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Just saw a Verge article about how Elon wants to turn Twitter into a payments system. I know that same detail was buzzing around here a few days ago.

    So he wants to make Paypal 2.0? No one else hanging around with a new idea for you to steal Musk?

    It seems that the app he's taking aim at is a chat app maintained by the Chinese government that serves as a sort of one stop shop for most anything the internet could offer.

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    The ceo of Sears had a similar idea back when I got my first job there. He wanted to transform Sears into the business of the future by taking it entirely digital, and creating a social media market place. It would be Facebook/Amazon, where all the hip youngsters would hang out in digital space and #humblebrag about the new 22" Craftsman T110 17.5 HP riding mower they bought. It was bold! It was innovative! It was controversial! It was gonna revolutionize the way people hung out and did business on The World Wide Web!



    Anyway Sears dead as fuck now.

    Isn't most of that that the CEO literally looted the company?

    Oh yeah the man was basically an evil wizard from what I heard. He never attended meetings in person, everybody was forced to look at a TV screen that he video called in to and he was like, sat at the end of a long table all shadowy and shit.

    They should have gone out of business in like, 2012-2014 but because Sears was such an old company they were sitting on tons of primo real-estate that was owned outright I think. So in order to fluff quarterly earning he would just sell locations for a profit. It was why it was such a slow decline

    He really kinda did the company dirty. Sears had a lot of brand recognition the problem was they were the store of the elderly, I mean the fucking ancient. My first day on the floor a 7,000 year old man shuffled up to me, shit himself, and then shoved a lawnmower manual from 1914 in my hand and asked me to find him the drive belt. I had to go to one of those corporate training things (I was like, 18 and a regular salesman) and the guy doing it was like "we gotta reach out and get people excited cause Sears is where everybody's grandma shops and our customers are going to sleep." So, dying basically.

    I dunno, I'm not really a business man but I have learned that the key to a successful business seems to be focus on what you're actually good. Whenever a nut job like Musk jumps in and then wants to fundamentally alter the basic functions of a company by adding in new, off the wall features or "functionality" that's it. It's done. Game over. Typically this would be the point the CEO starts looting the company for all its worth but that's assuming the CEO is just evil and not a complete dipshit who spent $44 billion American Freedom Shekels on the company at an hilariously overvalued cost.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    The ceo of Sears had a similar idea back when I got my first job there. He wanted to transform Sears into the business of the future by taking it entirely digital, and creating a social media market place. It would be Facebook/Amazon, where all the hip youngsters would hang out in digital space and #humblebrag about the new 22" Craftsman T110 17.5 HP riding mower they bought. It was bold! It was innovative! It was controversial! It was gonna revolutionize the way people hung out and did business on The World Wide Web!



    Anyway Sears dead as fuck now.

    Isn't most of that that the CEO literally looted the company?

    Oh yeah the man was basically an evil wizard from what I heard. He never attended meetings in person, everybody was forced to look at a TV screen that he video called in to and he was like, sat at the end of a long table all shadowy and shit.

    They should have gone out of business in like, 2012-2014 but because Sears was such an old company they were sitting on tons of primo real-estate that was owned outright I think. So in order to fluff quarterly earning he would just sell locations for a profit. It was why it was such a slow decline

    He really kinda did the company dirty. Sears had a lot of brand recognition the problem was they were the store of the elderly, I mean the fucking ancient. My first day on the floor a 7,000 year old man shuffled up to me, shit himself, and then shoved a lawnmower manual from 1914 in my hand and asked me to find him the drive belt. I had to go to one of those corporate training things (I was like, 18 and a regular salesman) and the guy doing it was like "we gotta reach out and get people excited cause Sears is where everybody's grandma shops and our customers are going to sleep." So, dying basically.

    I dunno, I'm not really a business man but I have learned that the key to a successful business seems to be focus on what you're actually good. Whenever a nut job like Musk jumps in and then wants to fundamentally alter the basic functions of a company by adding in new, off the wall features or "functionality" that's it. It's done. Game over. Typically this would be the point the CEO starts looting the company for all its worth but that's assuming the CEO is just evil and not a complete dipshit who spent $44 billion American Freedom Shekels on the company at an hilariously overvalued cost.

    The person he was selling the real estate to was himself, as far as I understand.

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    The thing about the rural areas is that not many people live there by definition, which is a problem for any service trying to be profitable despite a large operating cost

    Just like everything else, the answer is it depends. There are a ton of people who don't have access to anything faster than 1Mbps DSL, a lot who are on just garbage regular satellite, and for them Starlink is an unequivocally good thing. It provides good (not perfect!) internet access at a price that is not terribly out of line with other ISPs. And depending on how many people in different locations can access it, long term it could be profitable.

    Part of the profitability seems to be accessories now, though. That $600 just gets you the dish and the router. If you need a longer cable you have to buy it from them because it's USB, not PoE. Have a bigger home that a single router won't cover? Gotta buy the Ethernet port separately, the unit doesn't have one. Again, it's not great, but for people who have no other option, it's the best of those options.

    I grew up in a rural area that today is really not that rural. My mom still lives there and despite the encroaching urban sprawl no ISP will lay a line there so her only option is AT&T legacy DSL that's barely even supported, is only working until it quits, and I'm pretty sure is running off fucking Bell South cable laid down in the 50's.

    We didn't have a Domino's that would deliver to our house until about 2018 so imagine my mom will have access to actual high speed internet in 2036.

  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    The ceo of Sears had a similar idea back when I got my first job there. He wanted to transform Sears into the business of the future by taking it entirely digital, and creating a social media market place. It would be Facebook/Amazon, where all the hip youngsters would hang out in digital space and #humblebrag about the new 22" Craftsman T110 17.5 HP riding mower they bought. It was bold! It was innovative! It was controversial! It was gonna revolutionize the way people hung out and did business on The World Wide Web!



    Anyway Sears dead as fuck now.

    Isn't most of that that the CEO literally looted the company?

    Oh yeah the man was basically an evil wizard from what I heard. He never attended meetings in person, everybody was forced to look at a TV screen that he video called in to and he was like, sat at the end of a long table all shadowy and shit.

    They should have gone out of business in like, 2012-2014 but because Sears was such an old company they were sitting on tons of primo real-estate that was owned outright I think. So in order to fluff quarterly earning he would just sell locations for a profit. It was why it was such a slow decline

    He really kinda did the company dirty. Sears had a lot of brand recognition the problem was they were the store of the elderly, I mean the fucking ancient. My first day on the floor a 7,000 year old man shuffled up to me, shit himself, and then shoved a lawnmower manual from 1914 in my hand and asked me to find him the drive belt. I had to go to one of those corporate training things (I was like, 18 and a regular salesman) and the guy doing it was like "we gotta reach out and get people excited cause Sears is where everybody's grandma shops and our customers are going to sleep." So, dying basically.

    I dunno, I'm not really a business man but I have learned that the key to a successful business seems to be focus on what you're actually good. Whenever a nut job like Musk jumps in and then wants to fundamentally alter the basic functions of a company by adding in new, off the wall features or "functionality" that's it. It's done. Game over. Typically this would be the point the CEO starts looting the company for all its worth but that's assuming the CEO is just evil and not a complete dipshit who spent $44 billion American Freedom Shekels on the company at an hilariously overvalued cost.

    The person he was selling the real estate to was himself, as far as I understand.

    God I never thought I'd be wistful for a competent piece of shit CEO.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Yeah

    Pinterest is the Western mental model to use

    Tencent with WeChat payments and banking is probably Musk’s model

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    The thing about the rural areas is that not many people live there by definition, which is a problem for any service trying to be profitable despite a large operating cost

    Just like everything else, the answer is it depends. There are a ton of people who don't have access to anything faster than 1Mbps DSL, a lot who are on just garbage regular satellite, and for them Starlink is an unequivocally good thing. It provides good (not perfect!) internet access at a price that is not terribly out of line with other ISPs. And depending on how many people in different locations can access it, long term it could be profitable.

    Part of the profitability seems to be accessories now, though. That $600 just gets you the dish and the router. If you need a longer cable you have to buy it from them because it's USB, not PoE. Have a bigger home that a single router won't cover? Gotta buy the Ethernet port separately, the unit doesn't have one. Again, it's not great, but for people who have no other option, it's the best of those options.

    I grew up in a rural area that today is really not that rural. My mom still lives there and despite the encroaching urban sprawl no ISP will lay a line there so her only option is AT&T legacy DSL that's barely even supported, is only working until it quits, and I'm pretty sure is running off fucking Bell South cable laid down in the 50's.

    We didn't have a Domino's that would deliver to our house until about 2018 so imagine my mom will have access to actual high speed internet in 2036.

    Up here is real weird in that it's rural, but there are huge sections that are covered by Comcast or Charter, and then pockets inside of those areas that just have nothing available, not even cell service. A lot of that is due to mergers and buyouts over the years (the rotting husk of Adelphia).

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    edited November 2022
    A subscription model just flat out is incompatible with e-commerce and converting eyeballs to ad sales

    As is un/under-moderated content

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Yeah 5 minutes in just about any direction and you can get Charter or ATT but right there at the road I grew up on? Nope!

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