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NoE = Stars Fascists?

LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in Games and Technology
For anyone outside of Europe, Nintendo stars are a Europe wide Nintendo customer loyalty scheme thing, where in all 1st/2nd part games, some hardware and some 3rd party games, you get a PIN, which is redeemable online for an amount of "stars" 250 a game is standard. You can also get stars for doing things online (every day if you log into the site, you get 5 stars for example)

The idea of the stars is that you redeem them in the "Stars Catalogue" online. The only problem with this, is that the stars catalogue is always empty. There are wallpapers, and screensavers, and other downloadable crap, that no one ever buys, and whenever any games get put in it, they sell out almost immediately. I was lucky enough to catch a Donkey Konga Bongo bundle before it sold out, but most people have never got anything. Tonnes of people have 1000's of unspent stars, which they have saved up in the hope of eventually being able to buy something.

There have been lots of hints of of them allowing users to convert stars into VC points, including a test put up on the site that some people used before it was taken down.

Latest news is -
If you have a NoE membership, you probably received an email this morning. NoE is letting their members know that there are new privacy guidelines that you have to accept. You have up until July 15th to accept the changes. If you don’t do so by then, your account will be closed out. Any stars that you have in your account will be lost.

On top of that, every star that is added to your star account will be deleted after 24 months. You will have that time period to put your stars to use. Looks like you have a limited time for star hording now.

Finally NoE reconfirms that you will soon be able to trade star points for Wii points to make your VC purchases. Thanks to everyone that sent this in!

So looks like they may finally be getting around to having something useful to but in the stars catalogue, at the expensive of allot of non-active users loosing out.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Meh? All we get for registering our games in NA is usually just some wallpapers, maybe a flash game or two. Hard to feel much sympathy, to be honest.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    drhazard wrote: »
    Meh? All we get for registering our games in NA is usually just some wallpapers, maybe a flash game or two. Hard to feel much sympathy, to be honest.

    I'm looking forwards to Metroid Prime Pinballs release in two weeks time

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    For anyone outside of Europe, Nintendo stars are a Europe wide Nintendo customer loyalty scheme thing

    Lies. It is not in all of Europe. We don't have it at all in Denmark.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Peewi wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    For anyone outside of Europe, Nintendo stars are a Europe wide Nintendo customer loyalty scheme thing

    Lies. It is not in all of Europe. We don't have it at all in Denmark.

    really? sorry, my mistake.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    drhazard wrote: »
    Meh? All we get for registering our games in NA is usually just some wallpapers, maybe a flash game or two. Hard to feel much sympathy, to be honest.

    I'm looking forwards to Metroid Prime Pinballs release in two weeks time

    Well, now, that you have my sympathy for. But let's be honest, it's not like the crappy Stars thing was making up for that, right? :P

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    Man.

    Nintendo Japan, and now NoE have a better club than NoA. All we get is a few issues of Nintendo Power.

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  • AmygdalaAmygdala Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Considering that I have currently 10.850 stars, this makes me happy.

    Edit: What was the exchange rate for VC points during that test? It was only up on the UK section of the site, which I couldn´t even access during that time.

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    As much as it's been a tease up till now, here in NA I am quite jealous of the free VC points. I'm curious if they'll have a "cap" of some sort for those of you with 10,000s of stars.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Amygdala wrote: »
    Considering that I have currently 10.850 stars, this makes me happy.

    Edit: What was the exchange rate for VC points during that test? It was only up on the UK section of the site, which I couldn´t even access during that time.

    I vaguely remember it being a random 3 digit number to get 1000 VC points, I think something like 937 for 1000 vc points. IIRC someone on these boards managed to get some with it. But since it was a random number, I am pretty sure it was just a software test, and not the actual exchange rate.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Actually, the previous terms said they may delete unused stars after 12 months if they wish.

    So I haven't actually registered any, I've got over 12 stars cards that I'll register when there is something I want, that way I don't lose anything.

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  • AmygdalaAmygdala Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Rami wrote: »
    Actually, the previous terms said they may delete unused stars after 12 months if they wish.

    So I haven't actually registered any, I've got over 12 stars cards that I'll register when there is something I want, that way I don't lose anything.
    Really? I never noticed that. They also never did that, thankfully. And that exchange rate would give me over 11.000 VC points :shock:

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  • FawfulFawful __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    The actual exchange rate will be 1:4, which will net you about one third of what you estimated, or in other words: about 3 euros worth of VC points.

    Yeah, major ripoff. Fuck NoE.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Fawful wrote: »
    The actual exchange rate will be 1:4, which will net you about one third of what you estimated, or in other words: about 3 euros worth of VC points.

    Yeah, major ripoff. Fuck NoE.

    do you have a source on this? or is it speculation?

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I am slightly worried now. I have received no such email that I remember and there's nothing on the site or when I log in mentioning this.

    I have 13,000 stars I do not want to lose!

    For those have had the email how did you accept these conditions? A link from the email or what?

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    if they're going to actually let you turn them into VC points, I can see why they make them expire now, otherwise people would hoard them (more than they do now) and the stock would never move.

    Coke Rewards does the same thing too. Your points expire about 12-14 months after you input them, so you're better off if you hold onto the original code until you have enough..

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I am slightly worried now. I have received no such email that I remember and there's nothing on the site or when I log in mentioning this.

    I have 13,000 stars I do not want to lose!

    For those have had the email how did you accept these conditions? A link from the email or what?
    I'm in the same boat. I assume they must just be being slow.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Then again I vaguely remember accepting some terms and conditions change months and months back. Maybe this is just another reminder and final deadline to those who didn't back then?

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  • Red AlbatrossRed Albatross Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    Amygdala wrote: »
    Considering that I have currently 10.850 stars, this makes me happy.

    Edit: What was the exchange rate for VC points during that test? It was only up on the UK section of the site, which I couldn´t even access during that time.

    I vaguely remember it being a random 3 digit number to get 1000 VC points, I think something like 937 for 1000 vc points. IIRC someone on these boards managed to get some with it. But since it was a random number, I am pretty sure it was just a software test, and not the actual exchange rate.

    I was one of the ones to get it. They were pretty good about it and gave me the option of the VC points or my stars back (who would go for that?) even though it was an obvious mistake on their part.

    Also I've had no email but the vague feeling I accepted a while back, as well.

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  • CullenCullen Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Well I've got 9,000+ star at the moment and the last thing I bought off the catalogue was Pokemon Box in 2004, so I hope they don't start clearing out old points. If they hurried up and added VC point to the catalogue this wouldn't be a problem.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sleep wrote: »
    Man.

    Nintendo Japan, and now NoE have a better club than NoA. All we get is a few issues of Nintendo Power.

    On the one hand, I agree somewhat. On the other hand, think of all the games we get earlier then Europe, and the games that we get that they don't. I mean, we got Super Mario RPG, they got...Doshin the Giant.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Cullen wrote: »
    Well I've got 9,000+ star at the moment and the last thing I bought off the catalogue was Pokemon Box in 2004, so I hope they don't start clearing out old points. If they hurried up and added VC point to the catalogue this wouldn't be a problem.

    I really can't imagine they'll do a cull of stars before they add the VC points. They're incompetent, not evil.

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Peewi wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    For anyone outside of Europe, Nintendo stars are a Europe wide Nintendo customer loyalty scheme thing

    Lies. It is not in all of Europe. We don't have it at all in Denmark.

    Nintendo Denmark are the laziest bunch of scoundrels, though. They can't even spell the games' names right on their website (they still have Medal of Honor Vanduard on there), and some parts of the site doen't even support our typesets of æ, ø and å. I remember registering my Gamecube and not even getting any wallpapers out of it, either. In fact, I don't even remember anything happening at all :P

    But yeah, the offer only counts for UK/Ireland, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, France and Italy. So the rest of Europe can go jump in a lake. It's like there's the main part of Europe, who have it bad enough, but then there's the rest of Europe which is like 3rd world Nintendo - some games released in the UK aren't seen here at all. I don't know if they still do that, but I never saw Secret of Mana in Danish stores, for example.

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  • Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sleep wrote: »
    Man.

    Nintendo Japan, and now NoE have a better club than NoA. All we get is a few issues of Nintendo Power.

    On the one hand, I agree somewhat. On the other hand, think of all the games we get earlier then Europe, and the games that we get that they don't. I mean, we got Super Mario RPG, they got...Doshin the Giant.

    Oh man. I always wanted to play Doshin the Giant.

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  • AmygdalaAmygdala Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Cullen wrote: »
    Well I've got 9,000+ star at the moment and the last thing I bought off the catalogue was Pokemon Box in 2004, so I hope they don't start clearing out old points. If they hurried up and added VC point to the catalogue this wouldn't be a problem.

    I really can't imagine they'll do a cull of stars before they add the VC points. They're incompetent, not evil.
    According to the new terms, which I got simply by logging out and then in again, all stars you have now will be deleted 12 months after the new terms are introduced, so in July 2008.

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  • lazyboilazyboi Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I didn't get this email either. I don't have a huge amount of stars, especially since I started importing my DS games, but I wouldn't like to lose them either.

    But still - July 2008? If they give us anything worth buying, I'm sure I can spend them by then...

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Apparently the UK/Eire emails haven't gone out yet. Just Germany that I've heard of. However if logging in and out works as Amygdala reports then we have nothing to worry about.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sleep wrote: »
    Man.

    Nintendo Japan, and now NoE have a better club than NoA. All we get is a few issues of Nintendo Power.

    NoA used to have an awesome club thing with Nintendo Power but lack of interest probably killed it.

    Nintendo Power Supplies I think they called it. Lot of awesome Nintendo related merchandise you could get through gathering Power Supply stamps or outright ordering it.

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  • lazyboilazyboi Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I have to say that I agree with LewieP. The rewards you get a really shoddy compared to what Japan gets. Hell, even a subscription to Official Nintendo Monthly would be OK, compared to all the crappy ringtones and wallpapers.

    Not a lot of reward for signing up...

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Dear Nintendo fan,

    At Nintendo we respect the privacy rights of our online visitors and we recognise the importance of protecting your personal details. To allow us to implement additional features on our website, to improve our products and to adapt them to our users’ needs and preferences, we need your permission to gather information about your online activities on our web site and with Nintendo’s products..

    Please review our new Privacy Policy by clicking on this link http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/home/index.do and logging in to your account. Once you have read the information on that page, please use the appropriate buttons to either ACCEPT or DECLINE this new Privacy Policy.

    Please note that if we haven’t received your answer by July 15, 2007, or if you choose to DECLINE our new Privacy Policy, you will from that day onwards no longer be able to use your Stars in the Stars Catalogue, as we will be forced to deactivate your Nintendo membership. No matter what you decide, you can still use your Stars and enjoy all the other benefits of the Nintendo membership account until July 15, 2007.

    Also note that when you continue your Nintendo membership, from now on your Stars will automatically expire 24 months after they were added to your profile. Stars you have earned before the introduction of the new Terms and Conditions expire 12 months after the introduction of the new Terms and Conditions, which will not occur until June 1, 2008.

    However, you will soon be able to swap your Stars for Wii Points in the Stars Catalogue if you linked your Wii Shop Channel account to your online Nintendo membership.


    We look forward to seeing you again on our website soon, and hope you will enjoy the new generation in videogaming together with us!
    Your Nintendo team
    :lol:

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    LewieP wrote: »

    However, you will soon be able to swap your Stars for Wii Points in the Stars Catalogue if you linked your Wii Shop Channel account to your online Nintendo membership.
    :lol:
    Yeah, I got that e-mail a couple of weeks ago.

    But I'm still not able to trade in my stars for points, darnit. I got 5,335 of the things just slowly going very stale.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sleep wrote: »
    Man.

    Nintendo Japan, and now NoE have a better club than NoA. All we get is a few issues of Nintendo Power.

    NoA used to have an awesome club thing with Nintendo Power but lack of interest probably killed it.

    Nintendo Power Supplies I think they called it. Lot of awesome Nintendo related merchandise you could get through gathering Power Supply stamps or outright ordering it.

    That was long before registering for stuff online, unfortunately.

    And even then, a lot of the merchandise was sort of... eh. Though there was some cool stuff.

    Ought to form a letter-writing campaign to Nintendo or something, tell them we want more stuff like Japan gets. Tingle's Balloon Fight? Man, I'd be all over that like you don't even know.

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  • mausmalonemausmalone Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sleep wrote: »
    Man.

    Nintendo Japan, and now NoE have a better club than NoA. All we get is a few issues of Nintendo Power.

    All you get is a few issues of Nintendo Power once if you register 3 items. If you register 3 more items you get nothing.

    And if, like me, you didn't have a mailing address when you hit 3 then they mail your subscription out to nowhere. That's how I "got" but never received my Zelda Collector's Disc for the GCN.

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  • IllyriaIllyria __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    LewieP wrote: »
    Dear Nintendo fan,

    At Nintendo we respect the privacy rights of our online visitors and we recognise the importance of protecting your personal details. To allow us to implement additional features on our website, to improve our products and to adapt them to our users’ needs and preferences, we need your permission to gather information about your online activities on our web site and with Nintendo’s products..

    Please review our new Privacy Policy by clicking on this link http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/home/index.do and logging in to your account. Once you have read the information on that page, please use the appropriate buttons to either ACCEPT or DECLINE this new Privacy Policy.

    Please note that if we haven’t received your answer by July 15, 2007, or if you choose to DECLINE our new Privacy Policy, you will from that day onwards no longer be able to use your Stars in the Stars Catalogue, as we will be forced to deactivate your Nintendo membership. No matter what you decide, you can still use your Stars and enjoy all the other benefits of the Nintendo membership account until July 15, 2007.

    Also note that when you continue your Nintendo membership, from now on your Stars will automatically expire 24 months after they were added to your profile. Stars you have earned before the introduction of the new Terms and Conditions expire 12 months after the introduction of the new Terms and Conditions, which will not occur until June 1, 2008.

    However, you will soon be able to swap your Stars for Wii Points in the Stars Catalogue if you linked your Wii Shop Channel account to your online Nintendo membership.


    We look forward to seeing you again on our website soon, and hope you will enjoy the new generation in videogaming together with us!
    Your Nintendo team
    :lol:
    Is that :lol: a :lol: of joy or of cynicism? Because I find the 4:1 ratio nothing to :lol: about. All your points get cut in four just like that. A big loss.

    :cry:

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Illyria wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    #snip#
    :lol:
    Is that :lol: a :lol: of joy or of cynicism? Because I find the 4:1 ratio nothing to :lol: about. All your points get cut in four just like that. A big loss.

    :cry:

    When you get something for nothing you don't get to cry about how much you are getting! Who ever told you to expect one Wii Point per star anyway?

    Sure we don't get it as good as Japan but bear in mind you are essentially getting free games here. I'm damn happy to be getting anything and so should you be.

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  • CullenCullen Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Has 4:1 been confirmed?

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  • Nexus ZeroNexus Zero Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Cullen wrote: »
    Has 4:1 been confirmed?


    No, it hasn't, he's talking shit. He might be right, but he's still talking shit.

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  • Lave IILave II Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    So the new privacy agreement means they record when you play your Wii, what you play on your Wii and how long you play on your Wii.

    Hmmm. I know Nintendo aren't evil, I know it won't be abused, and I know it will be very useful information for them, but I'm still not sure I'm ok with that. Not in exchange for a handful of Wii points at least.

    But reading through it - you can email them, and tell them to remove all the data they have on you. So I'll agree, clear out my 5000 Wii points, and then shut it all down.

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  • CraveonCraveon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    Nexus Zero wrote: »
    Cullen wrote: »
    Has 4:1 been confirmed?


    No, it hasn't, he's talking shit. He might be right, but he's still talking shit.
    I'm 90% sure it's gonna be 4:1.

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  • CraveonCraveon __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    Illyria wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    #snip#
    :lol:
    Is that :lol: a :lol: of joy or of cynicism? Because I find the 4:1 ratio nothing to :lol: about. All your points get cut in four just like that. A big loss.

    :cry:

    When you get something for nothing you don't get to cry about how much you are getting! Who ever told you to expect one Wii Point per star anyway?

    Sure we don't get it as good as Japan but bear in mind you are essentially getting free games here. I'm damn happy to be getting anything and so should you be.
    It's a ripoff no matter what way you look at it, and I am not enough a fanboy to defend them on something retarded like this. Guess you are just very easily pleased. Would be very nice for corporations if all their customers were like you.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Ripoff how?

    YOU DID NOT PAY FOR THESE STARS!

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