The Rock also made them sever the connection between SHAZAM and Black Adam, when "oh shit Evil SHAZAM just showed up and it's The Rock" is an extremely easy sequel hook for a generally well-regarded movie, which seems like a pretty straightforward direction to go
but hilariously, kept the idea of having SHAZAM as Black Adam's magic word, which is some fucking insane tonal whiplash when sandwiched between scenes of brutal slavery and modern day military occupation.
Edit: Yes I'm pages late, but it's very important to me to emphasize how fucking dumb it sounded. Man, this movie absolutely did not know what it wanted to be.
Yeah, like Alien specifically is about the constantly feeling of tension and dread that it makes you feel, almost more than any describable scenario the characters themselves go through. It’s way way more about the experience it invokes for the viewer to internalize than it is about a series of events and plot twists.
Somehow my partner has not only never seen Alien, but also knows very little about its twists and turns that are general pop culture knowledge for most people over ~30, so I'm very stoked to finally watch that with them soon — our experience watching Predator was similarly delightful, because they instantly picked up on three and a half decades worth of queer/gender-related discourse on that movie incredibly intuitively on their own
Peter, a Young Soviet Pioneer, lives at his grandfather's home in a forest clearing. One day, Peter goes out into the clearing, leaving the garden gate open, and a duck that lives in the yard takes the opportunity to go swimming in a pond nearby. The duck and a bird argue on whether a proper bird should be able to swim or fly. A local cat stalks them quietly, and the bird—warned by Peter—flies to safety in a tall tree while the duck swims to safety in the middle of the pond.
Before long, Peter's grandfather scolds him for being outside and playing in the meadow alone because a wolf might come out of the forest and attack him. When Peter shows defiance, believing he has nothing to fear from wolves, his grandfather takes him back into the house and locks the gate. Soon afterwards, a ferocious grey wolf does indeed come out of the forest. The cat quickly climbs into the tree with the bird, but the duck, who has jumped out of the pond, is chased, overtaken, and swallowed by the beast.
Seeing all of this from inside, Peter fetches a rope and climbs over the garden wall into the tree. He asks the bird to fly around the beast's head to distract him, while he lowers a noose and catches the wolf by his tail. The beast struggles to get free, but Peter ties the rope to the tree and the noose only gets tighter.
Some hunters, who have been tracking the wolf, come out of the forest with their guns readied, but Peter gets them to instead help him take it to a zoo in a victory parade (the piece was first performed for an audience of Young Pioneers during May Day celebrations) that includes himself, the bird, the hunters leading the wolf, the cat, and lastly his grumbling Grandfather, still disappointed that Peter ignored his warnings, but proud that his grandson caught the beast.
At the end, the narrator states those listening carefully could hear the duck still quacking inside the wolf's belly, due to being swallowed whole.
Would you say that you just listened to Peter and the Wolf?
That's literally how some people have to consume some media due to hearing or sight issues.
There's a bit on the British show QI Series S 'Smörgåsbord' where comedian Chris McCausland, who is completely blind, complains about audio description services ruining movies for him by interrupting a dramatic silence in a scene to tell him e.g. that a character has just turned around.
(Chris also says apparently Pornhub has an audio description section which he investigated for "research", quipping - "well, I can't go any blinder")
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
I'm very much a story centric spoilers ruin my experience sorta person.
Not that I dont enjoy all the other bits. But those are the pieces that strengthen the experience and can take something from good to great. I'm not there for them by themselves but they are still very important.
However without backbone of the narrative that I'm intrigued by all that stuff matters less to me as well.
They're like the condiments and toppings on a sandwich.
sometimes I think I've been spoiled on a thing but then it turns out I have either gotten the spoiler wrong or it's only a spoiler for the first act, and those are my favorite kind of spoiler
for example, (The Prestige spoilers below)
I had been spoiled on David Bowie as Nicola Tesla and the teleportation stuff and thought that was the big twist, but then (legitimate final scene spoilers)
had totally missed the spoiler on Bale's character being twins
Garlic Breadi'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm aRegistered User, Disagreeableregular
there's a scene in sweet/vicious where eliza bennett cycles through so many emotions so quickly and conveys more with just her facial acting during those 10 seconds than an hour of describing it could do
i only ever watched it once and i still vividly remember it because i'm usually a layer removed from fiction simply because i know it's fiction, but that scene took me from "watching a story being told" to "experiencing this incredibly human moment alongside it"
maybe it's time i rewatch that show, finally
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Garlic Breadi'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm aRegistered User, Disagreeableregular
sometimes heartbreak feels good in a place like this
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
I have also watched/listened to descriptive audio pornography and generally recommend checking it out. There's a very funny mix of deeply clinical language and more casual, slang heavy verbiage (like the sort you might expect in porn dialogue, you know).
Personally I think it's more amusing than it is titillating, but I'm glad it's out there for someone.
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
there's a scene in sweet/vicious where eliza bennett cycles through so many emotions so quickly and conveys more with just her facial acting during those 10 seconds than an hour of describing it could do
I once started to cry after watching Michael Emerson emote for two particular seconds in a later season of Lost.
Acting! It's sometimes good!!
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Johnny ChopsockyScootaloo! We have to cook!Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered Userregular
If I'm going to watch something, I don't like being spoiled beforehand. I'm asking a filmmaker to "tell me a story" and I want them to tell me in exactly the way they mean to. If something cool happens, I prefer to get to that cool thing organically, because who knows maybe in the context of the movie it's even cooler!
I, personally, am bad at telling stories. My ADHD brain kicks in real hard and I lose the flow real easily, so I appreciate watching an actual story-teller work.
If I'm going to watch something, I don't like being spoiled beforehand. I'm asking a filmmaker to "tell me a story" and I want them to tell me in exactly the way they mean to. If something cool happens, I prefer to get to that cool thing organically, because who knows maybe in the context of the movie it's even cooler!
I, personally, am bad at telling stories. My ADHD brain kicks in real hard and I lose the flow real easily, so I appreciate watching an actual story-teller work.
Left alone in Lois' apartment for a moment, Clark Kent takes off his glasses, straightens to his full height, and allows himself to smile Superman's smile.
And Christopher Reeve sells it.
Yeah, like Alien specifically is about the constant feeling of tension and dread that it makes you feel, almost more than any describable scenario the characters themselves go through. It’s way way more about the experience it invokes for the viewer to internalize than it is about a series of events and plot twists.
Tonight I had a free evening, so I decided to finally watch The Postman.
Never seen it, know nothing about it.
Did Kevin Costner direct a Fallout: New Vegas movie?
Nooooooo
But also, yes?
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
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FishmanPut your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain.Registered Userregular
edited December 2022
I despise spoilers, but often read wikipedia or IMDB film synopses for films I know I have no intention of ever going to (frequently horror, thanks to the often oblique discourse that occurs in this thread to prevent spoilers hitting other horror fans but I'd prefer just to know because I'm never seeing that movie anyway).
Rarely, I might seek out a synopsis to see if a movie is worth my time because I'm on the fence. This isa very much an exception, but occasionally I'm intrigued enough to want to know more.
I have watched films that I know what happens or have seen clips of youtube. I have seen films I have seen before and forgotten about. I will rewatch films I liked because I felt like it
I'm curious if people who don't want to watch films if they already know what happens ever rewatch films they've already seen and liked?
I dislike story spoilers for a first viewing, but do enjoy repeats to see the film from a more mechanical perspective, eg how is that plot point set up, is it outright shown in the first act but you miss it because you don't know what you're looking for and so on. The Prestige as mentioned earlier is an excellent example of something that rewards a second or third time through just see all those little details.
I guess I look at it as the first time I'm watching for the story (usually) and the second time it's to appreciate the craft involved.
I'm curious if people who don't want to watch films if they already know what happens ever rewatch films they've already seen and liked?
Yes.
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
with some exceptions, spoilers don't hinder my enjoyment of a piece of media. it's the journey I'm all about, if I know something happens, I get to see how they get there.
that's not to say there aren't movies I saw going in blind and loved the surprise!
what really fucks with me is chemistry. if the actors just aren't vibing, that will ruin a movie/tv show for me.
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Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
I'm curious if people who don't want to watch films if they already know what happens ever rewatch films they've already seen and liked?
I dislike story spoilers for a first viewing, but do enjoy repeats to see the film from a more mechanical perspective, eg how is that plot point set up, is it outright shown in the first act but you miss it because you don't know what you're looking for and so on. The Prestige as mentioned earlier is an excellent example of something that rewards a second or third time through just see all those little details.
I guess I look at it as the first time I'm watching for the story (usually) and the second time it's to appreciate the craft involved.
If I adore a movie after first viewing, you better believe I deep dive into the details afterwards and watch it again to appreciate the craft.
But that first viewing is magic to me. Hearing a story for the first time and letting a skilled storyteller take me on a ride feels like magic. It's not even about plot details, but also the pacing and beats. Even with action movies. That first time I saw Mad Max Fury Road blind in the theaters was unforgettable for me. Same with The Raid movies and John Wick.
I don't rewatch things often, it does happen sometimes but it's fairly rare. Usually if I rewatch something it's because I want to watch it with someone else as a social activity and enjoy them experiencing it, I think? Or just hang out with them, and they want to watch whatever it is.
I don't rewatch things often, it does happen sometimes but it's fairly rare. Usually if I rewatch something it's because I want to watch it with someone else as a social activity and enjoy them experiencing it, I think? Or just hang out with them, and they want to watch whatever it is.
I have watched Hot Fuzz no less then 200 times. During lockdown I watched it once a day. There's footage of me shooting scenes as Andy Wainwright with my cat standing in as Nicolas Angel.
Every time I watch it I find some new joy in it.
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Johnny ChopsockyScootaloo! We have to cook!Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered Userregular
edited December 2022
I'd say that my main complaint about someone dumping spoilers on me before I can see or play it feels like I'm ceding control of my first viewing experience to them. It feels like a loss of agency, like I'm letting someone tell me how I should perceive something before I can actually experience it for myself.
I think the whole 'no spoilers' thing is out of control, even around here. It's a movie thread. People are going to talk about plots and stories. Sure, keep common courtesy when discussing big twists within the recent past, but I've never understood "I know what happens and now I can't enjoy the movie" mindset.
If I hear about a movie that should be gone in blind, like Barbarian, I'll try to do that, but I don't lose any enjoyment from knowing what happens.
I think the whole 'no spoilers' thing is out of control, even around here. It's a movie thread. People are going to talk about plots and stories. Sure, keep common courtesy when discussing big twists within the recent past, but I've never understood "I know what happens and now I can't enjoy the movie" mindset.
If I hear about a movie that should be gone in blind, like Barbarian, I'll try to do that, but I don't lose any enjoyment from knowing what happens.
you don't need to understand it to respect it
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
It was a delightfully refreshing non tentpole blockbuster movie experience AND clocked in under 2 hours, so we actually were able to have a few beers without trying to guess when to make a quick bathroom break in nearly 3 hour slogfest like most major movies these days.
Would recommend.
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Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
I rewatch movies constantly. It’s often a trait of people with anxiety.
New films probably only make up like 5-10% of my movie viewing. But then I just don't watch films that often.
I never ever want to watch a film. at my age it's just too much of a commitment i could die at any time and not know the ending
what DID happen to bridget jones' diary much less her baby? did the baby steal the diary? why IS that gun the top one? does that imply others below it? isn't a bottom gun easier to reach and thus better?
It had the bones of a good Shane Black comedy but unfortunately was really let down by, well, almost everything except David Harbour. Awful dialogue, tissue thin characterization, muddy and choppy action scenes that were rarely allowed to build choreographic momentum, wild swings in tone that frequently killed the pacing*, dire acting from the secondary villains ... It wasn't bad, a bad movie wouldn't have irritated me this much. It was an average movie that occasionally allowed you to see glimpses of the good movie hiding underneath it.
in particular, there was the potential for giving Santa a really eerie and subversive mythos, the first flash back to his ancient origins was chilling. But apart from a smidge of well chosen music, they squandered this opportunity along with all the others
*"What if a sentimental children's Christmas movie but also die hard with extreme gore" is a cute two minute joke but if you make it an entire feature you gotta put more meat on those bones. You've made a film intended for adults, so at least try to give it a mental age above five.
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but hilariously, kept the idea of having SHAZAM as Black Adam's magic word, which is some fucking insane tonal whiplash when sandwiched between scenes of brutal slavery and modern day military occupation.
Edit: Yes I'm pages late, but it's very important to me to emphasize how fucking dumb it sounded. Man, this movie absolutely did not know what it wanted to be.
Somehow my partner has not only never seen Alien, but also knows very little about its twists and turns that are general pop culture knowledge for most people over ~30, so I'm very stoked to finally watch that with them soon — our experience watching Predator was similarly delightful, because they instantly picked up on three and a half decades worth of queer/gender-related discourse on that movie incredibly intuitively on their own
There's a bit on the British show QI Series S 'Smörgåsbord' where comedian Chris McCausland, who is completely blind, complains about audio description services ruining movies for him by interrupting a dramatic silence in a scene to tell him e.g. that a character has just turned around.
(Chris also says apparently Pornhub has an audio description section which he investigated for "research", quipping - "well, I can't go any blinder")
Not that I dont enjoy all the other bits. But those are the pieces that strengthen the experience and can take something from good to great. I'm not there for them by themselves but they are still very important.
However without backbone of the narrative that I'm intrigued by all that stuff matters less to me as well.
They're like the condiments and toppings on a sandwich.
for example, (The Prestige spoilers below)
i only ever watched it once and i still vividly remember it because i'm usually a layer removed from fiction simply because i know it's fiction, but that scene took me from "watching a story being told" to "experiencing this incredibly human moment alongside it"
maybe it's time i rewatch that show, finally
Personally I think it's more amusing than it is titillating, but I'm glad it's out there for someone.
I once started to cry after watching Michael Emerson emote for two particular seconds in a later season of Lost.
Acting! It's sometimes good!!
I, personally, am bad at telling stories. My ADHD brain kicks in real hard and I lose the flow real easily, so I appreciate watching an actual story-teller work.
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And Christopher Reeve sells it.
Steam, Warframe: Megajoule
What? No
Alien is about a cat
Never seen it, know nothing about it.
Did Kevin Costner direct a Fallout: New Vegas movie?
Nooooooo
But also, yes?
Rarely, I might seek out a synopsis to see if a movie is worth my time because I'm on the fence. This isa very much an exception, but occasionally I'm intrigued enough to want to know more.
Disgusting
I dislike story spoilers for a first viewing, but do enjoy repeats to see the film from a more mechanical perspective, eg how is that plot point set up, is it outright shown in the first act but you miss it because you don't know what you're looking for and so on. The Prestige as mentioned earlier is an excellent example of something that rewards a second or third time through just see all those little details.
I guess I look at it as the first time I'm watching for the story (usually) and the second time it's to appreciate the craft involved.
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Yes.
that's not to say there aren't movies I saw going in blind and loved the surprise!
what really fucks with me is chemistry. if the actors just aren't vibing, that will ruin a movie/tv show for me.
Interesting
It's not actually that interesting, I have no real opinion on the matter.
If I adore a movie after first viewing, you better believe I deep dive into the details afterwards and watch it again to appreciate the craft.
But that first viewing is magic to me. Hearing a story for the first time and letting a skilled storyteller take me on a ride feels like magic. It's not even about plot details, but also the pacing and beats. Even with action movies. That first time I saw Mad Max Fury Road blind in the theaters was unforgettable for me. Same with The Raid movies and John Wick.
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it's a comfort thing, when my anxiety is at peak i'll watch the same movie on repeat for weeks. last time was steel magnolias for a month
and some movies are better on repeat watching, like Shaun of the Dead and Ghostwatch
I have watched Hot Fuzz no less then 200 times. During lockdown I watched it once a day. There's footage of me shooting scenes as Andy Wainwright with my cat standing in as Nicolas Angel.
Every time I watch it I find some new joy in it.
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If I hear about a movie that should be gone in blind, like Barbarian, I'll try to do that, but I don't lose any enjoyment from knowing what happens.
you don't need to understand it to respect it
By myself? Never.
But if im sharing that experience with someone else? Absolutely.
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My coping mechanism is rewatching all of Scrubs once a year or so.
It was a delightfully refreshing non tentpole blockbuster movie experience AND clocked in under 2 hours, so we actually were able to have a few beers without trying to guess when to make a quick bathroom break in nearly 3 hour slogfest like most major movies these days.
Would recommend.
New films probably only make up like 5-10% of my movie viewing. But then I just don't watch films that often.
I never ever want to watch a film. at my age it's just too much of a commitment i could die at any time and not know the ending
what DID happen to bridget jones' diary much less her baby? did the baby steal the diary? why IS that gun the top one? does that imply others below it? isn't a bottom gun easier to reach and thus better?
but then heart attack
I call them cling films.
It had the bones of a good Shane Black comedy but unfortunately was really let down by, well, almost everything except David Harbour. Awful dialogue, tissue thin characterization, muddy and choppy action scenes that were rarely allowed to build choreographic momentum, wild swings in tone that frequently killed the pacing*, dire acting from the secondary villains ... It wasn't bad, a bad movie wouldn't have irritated me this much. It was an average movie that occasionally allowed you to see glimpses of the good movie hiding underneath it.
*"What if a sentimental children's Christmas movie but also die hard with extreme gore" is a cute two minute joke but if you make it an entire feature you gotta put more meat on those bones. You've made a film intended for adults, so at least try to give it a mental age above five.